[ilugd] India's $35 Tablet- The Everything Killer

[Vivek Varghese Cherian]

Hi,

On July 22 a $35 (or 1500 INR) hand-held Linux computing device was unveiled
by Shri Kapil Sibal, the Union Minister for Human Resource Development of
India. The goal of the project is to lower the price to around $20 in time
and eventually reaching the amazing price of $10.

In a tablet form-factor and using an unspecified variant of Linux (that some
have said might be Android), the cost should remain low while offering a
wide range of functionality. The Sakshat descendant is said to be capable of
supporting video conferencing, viewing a wide selection of video and image
files, word processing, de/compressing files, printing with CUPS, full
Internet browsing with Javascript and Flash, wireless communications, and
remote device management.

The complete article is available on linux journal at the URL:
http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/indias-35-tablet-everything-killer

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Re: [ilugd] India's $35 Tablet- The Everything Killer

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Vivek Varghese Cherian <
vivekcher...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On July 22 a $35 (or 1500 INR) hand-held Linux computing device was
> unveiled
> by Shri Kapil Sibal, the Union Minister for Human Resource Development of
> India. The goal of the project is to lower the price to around $20 in time
> and eventually reaching the amazing price of $10.
>

We have been hearing all kind of such devices right from those days of
Simputer.
Nothing has actually come up till date. (And not at that kind of pricing.)
Even if you take a bill of material and add its pricing, i twill not come
that low.

Lets hope and wait for the device to roll out in the market at that pricing.

-Sudhanwa



>
> In a tablet form-factor and using an unspecified variant of Linux (that
> some
> have said might be Android), the cost should remain low while offering a
> wide range of functionality. The Sakshat descendant is said to be capable
> of
> supporting video conferencing, viewing a wide selection of video and image
> files, word processing, de/compressing files, printing with CUPS, full
> Internet browsing with Javascript and Flash, wireless communications, and
> remote device management.
>
> The complete article is available on linux journal at the URL:
> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/indias-35-tablet-everything-killer
>
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>
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Re: [ilugd] India's $35 Tablet- The Everything Killer

[Smruti]

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Vivek Varghese Cherian <
vivekcher...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On July 22 a $35 (or 1500 INR) hand-held Linux computing device was
> unveiled
> by Shri Kapil Sibal, the Union Minister for Human Resource Development of
> India.


Found an article in CW. Seems like the International Media isn't so
enthusiastic about it. Now, I can't decide whether it's true journalism or
just some guy who can't stand a device from third world taking over their
markets.

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9179591/Why_the_35_tablet_will_never_exist?source=rss_hardware

May be you guys can give a better judgement.

Regards,
Smruti
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Re: [ilugd] India's $35 Tablet- The Everything Killer

[Narendra Sisodiya]

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Smruti  wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Vivek Varghese Cherian <
> vivekcher...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > On July 22 a $35 (or 1500 INR) hand-held Linux computing device was
> > unveiled
> > by Shri Kapil Sibal, the Union Minister for Human Resource Development of
> > India.
>
>
Have anybody seen this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakshat ?
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Re: [ilugd] India's $35 Tablet- The Everything Killer

[Nishant Prakash Kashyap]

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Narendra Sisodiya <
naren...@narendrasisodiya.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Smruti  wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Vivek Varghese Cherian <
> > vivekcher...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On July 22 a $35 (or 1500 INR) hand-held Linux computing device was
> > > unveiled
> > > by Shri Kapil Sibal, the Union Minister for Human Resource Development
> of
> > > India.
> >
> >
> Have anybody seen this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakshat ?
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This is all waste of time. you dont even get outdated crt monitor for
Rs.1500. ullu bana rahe hai.

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Re: [ilugd] India's $35 Tablet- The Everything Killer

[Narendra Sisodiya]

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Nishant Prakash Kashyap <
npkash...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> This is all waste of time. you dont even get outdated crt monitor for
> Rs.1500. ullu bana rahe hai.
>
>
Yes, We know this. vese bhi sarkar hum sabko ullu hi to bana rahi hai last
40 years se.
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Re: [ilugd] India's $35 Tablet- The Everything Killer

[Arun Khan]

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Narendra Sisodiya
 wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Nishant Prakash Kashyap <
> npkash...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> This is all waste of time. you dont even get outdated crt monitor for
>> Rs.1500. ullu bana rahe hai.
>>
>>
> Yes, We know this. vese bhi sarkar hum sabko ullu hi to bana rahi hai last
> 40 years se.

Aur hum sab ullu bane ko tayaar hein.

Seriously, let us do costing of bill of material -  I am stating
current street price @ Lam Rd., Mumbai

DDR2 667 2GB RAM DIMM costs around INR 1900  around USD 41
Motherboard with integrated Atom CPU INR 3000 around USD 65

The above are for Nettop and the cost already exceeds USD 100 plus the cost of
7" LCD Screen
4GB Compact Flash
Chassis
Labor etc.

OK, at large volumes the cost will come down but no way to USD 35.

It is very encouraging to read about it being developed indigenously
but the projected pricing is a gimmick/publicity stunt IMO.

-- Arun Khan

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Re: [ilugd] India's $35 Tablet- The Everything Killer

[Narendra Sisodiya]

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Arun Khan  wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Narendra Sisodiya
>  wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Nishant Prakash Kashyap <
> > npkash...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> This is all waste of time. you dont even get outdated crt monitor for
> >> Rs.1500. ullu bana rahe hai.
> >>
> >>
> > Yes, We know this. vese bhi sarkar hum sabko ullu hi to bana rahi hai
> last
> > 40 years se.
>
> Aur hum sab ullu bane ko tayaar hein.
>
> Seriously, let us do costing of bill of material -  I am stating
> current street price @ Lam Rd., Mumbai
>
> DDR2 667 2GB RAM DIMM costs around INR 1900  around USD 41
> Motherboard with integrated Atom CPU INR 3000 around USD 65
>
>
DDR3 will be a cost effective option.

Btw here is Open Letter by Nicholas Negroponte -
http://blog.laptop.org/2010/07/29/welcoming-indias-tablet/
He is also taking this joke seriously. At the end the article he invited $35
team at MIT & OLPC.
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Re: [ilugd] India's $35 Tablet- The Everything Killer

[Arun Khan]

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Narendra Sisodiya
 wrote:

> DDR3 will be a cost effective option.

To the best of my knowledge DDR3 costs a bit more in the Mumbai
channels - right now at least.

> Btw here is Open Letter by Nicholas Negroponte -
> http://blog.laptop.org/2010/07/29/welcoming-indias-tablet/
> He is also taking this joke seriously. At the end the article he invited $35
> team at MIT & OLPC.

Cool :)  I hope the team accepts the invitation.  I am sure they can
learn from each other, especially in the areas of production,
distribution and most importantly support.

Seriously, it will a great achievement if it can be mass produced and
deployed.  My only problem with it is the touted price point - trying
to fool the public.

-- Arun Khan

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Re: [ilugd] India's $35 Tablet- The Everything Killer

[Anupam Jain]

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Arun Khan  wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Narendra Sisodiya
>  wrote:
>
> > DDR3 will be a cost effective option.
>
> To the best of my knowledge DDR3 costs a bit more in the Mumbai
> channels - right now at least.
>
> > Btw here is Open Letter by Nicholas Negroponte -
> > http://blog.laptop.org/2010/07/29/welcoming-indias-tablet/
> > He is also taking this joke seriously. At the end the article he invited
> $35
> > team at MIT & OLPC.
>
> Cool :)  I hope the team accepts the invitation.  I am sure they can
> learn from each other, especially in the areas of production,
> distribution and most importantly support.
>
> Seriously, it will a great achievement if it can be mass produced and
> deployed.  My only problem with it is the touted price point - trying
> to fool the public.


Subsidy by the Indian Govt.?

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Re: [ilugd] India's $35 Tablet- The Everything Killer

[Amit Karpe]

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Vivek Varghese Cherian <
vivekcher...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On July 22 a $35 (or 1500 INR) hand-held Linux computing device was
> unveiled
> by Shri Kapil Sibal, the Union Minister for Human Resource Development of
> India. The goal of the project is to lower the price to around $20 in time
> and eventually reaching the amazing price of $10.
>
> In a tablet form-factor and using an unspecified variant of Linux (that
> some
> have said might be Android), the cost should remain low while offering a
> wide range of functionality. The Sakshat descendant is said to be capable
> of
> supporting video conferencing, viewing a wide selection of video and image
> files, word processing, de/compressing files, printing with CUPS, full
> Internet browsing with Javascript and Flash, wireless communications, and
> remote device management.
>
> The complete article is available on linux journal at the URL:
> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/indias-35-tablet-everything-killer
>



I am sure that, not a single Chip vendor can come with this cost.
Most of ARM vendor including TI can't come close to 70$ for Processor and
Motherboard. [ SOC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System-on-a-chip }
Intel Atom never be the choice. Have look at power consumption which is 2
watt.
2 Watts of power consumption while solar charging and conventional
battery.[
Ref:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakshat ]
This is purely political drama.

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Re: [ilugd] India's $35 Tablet- The Everything Killer

[Anand Shankar]

Guys, see the more relevant discussion here including the BoM:

http://www.olpcnews.com/sales_talk/competition/the_real_35_tablet_from_india.html

anand

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