[IRCA] 1560 NYC off
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Re: [IRCA] 1560 NYC off
Actually, Dennis, they're not being naughty. I had raised this same concern about KLNG a couple years ago (I live about 2 miles NNW of their stick), and Glenn Hauser and others pointed out that they are allowed to stay on until two hours after local sunset. With as few listeners as they pull in (I've not seen them show up in ANY book over the past 5 years), I wouldn't be saddened to see KLNG disappear completely. 73, Rick DauSouth Omaha, Nebraska > From: wb6...@gmail.com > Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 18:10:07 -0800 > To: irca@hard-core-dx.com > Subject: Re: [IRCA] [mwdx] 1560 NYC off > > KLNG is being naughty. It's a 10 kW daytimer with 2.1 kW critical hours. The > one half wavelength tower certainly helps. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 17, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Niel Wolfish wrote: > > > > Right now at 2026 Eastern 1560 is WBYS in Canton IL with girls high school > > basketball. Also had a KLNG (Council Bluffs IA) ID at 2000. > > Niel Wolfish, Toronto > > > > On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 1:23 AM, Rick Lewis > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi Dennis, > > I think KNZR was a clear channel allotment when it came on the air in the > > 1930s as KPMC. (1932, I think.) > > I don't know when the 1560 in NYC came on the air. > > -- > > Rick > > -Original Message- > > From: IRCA [mailto:irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Gibson > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 4:46 PM > > To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America > > Subject: Re: [IRCA] [mwdx] 1560 NYC off > > > > Quite a few stations west of WQEW are daytimers with critical hours > > authority. > > > > A little trivia. WQEW is authorized to use its daytime facilities until > > sunset at KNZR in Bakersfield, CA; three extra hours. I don't know why. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Feb 17, 2015, at 4:27 PM, Sylvain Naud wrote: > >> > >> Le 2015-02-17 18:59, Saul Chernos a écrit : > >>> As of 1850 est > >>> -- > >> > >> Thanks for the tip. I've just heard the WKDO ID, "15-60 AM, WKDO" > >> > >> Sylvain Naud > >> Portneuf, QC > >> Perseus + 350ft Beverage NE-SW > >> ___ > >> IRCA mailing list > >> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com > >> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > >> > >> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the > >> original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the > >> IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers > >> > >> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org > >> > >> To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com > > ___ > > IRCA mailing list > > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com > > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > > > > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the > > original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the > > IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers > > > > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org > > > > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com > > > > > > ___ > > IRCA mailing list > > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com > > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > > > > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the > > original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the > > IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers > > > > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org > > > > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > IRCA mailing list > > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com > > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > > > > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the > > original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the > > IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers > > > > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org > > > > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com > > > ___ > IRCA mailing list > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original > contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its > editors, publishing staff, or officers > > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org > > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com > ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] 1560 NYC off
And according to Earl Higgins, KCJJ in Iowa City (which was on 1560 with 1 kw back in the day) was required to SIGN OFF COMPLETELY at Iowa City sunset to protect KPMC and then allowed to sign back on at Bakersfield sunset! Is that true? I asked KCJJ's current owner (someone who wasn't even involved with the station until 1994) about that, and he says that was never the case. But, then again, his knowledge of station history is a bit foggy. He keeps denying that they signed off 1560 for good on October 13, 1998 with the Beatles' "The End", when I KNOW that they did, because I recorded the darn thing. 73, Rick Dau South Omaha, Nebraska > From: wb6...@gmail.com > Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 16:45:43 -0800 > To: irca@hard-core-dx.com > Subject: Re: [IRCA] [mwdx] 1560 NYC off > > Quite a few stations west of WQEW are daytimers with critical hours > authority. > > A little trivia. WQEW is authorized to use its daytime facilities until > sunset at KNZR in Bakersfield, CA; three extra hours. I don't know why. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 17, 2015, at 4:27 PM, Sylvain Naud wrote: > > > > Le 2015-02-17 18:59, Saul Chernos a écrit : > >> As of 1850 est > >> -- > > > > Thanks for the tip. I've just heard the WKDO ID, "15-60 AM, WKDO" > > > > Sylvain Naud > > Portneuf, QC > > Perseus + 350ft Beverage NE-SW > > ___ > > IRCA mailing list > > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com > > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > > > > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the > > original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the > > IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers > > > > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org > > > > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com > ___ > IRCA mailing list > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original > contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its > editors, publishing staff, or officers > > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org > > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com > ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] 1560 NYC off
It has PSSA in February from 6:00 to 8:00; 32 watts dropping to 25 watts. That must be it. It has PSSA for two hours every month; 41 watts dropping to 26 watts in April, May, June and September and 32 watts dropping to 25 watts the other months. I never see any discussion of PSRA and PSSA in all of the talk about cheaters. I have seen discussions regarding the accuracy of the PSRA and PSSA charts in the FCC database. Several smart people and some research suggest that the charts were issued in late February of 2007 and recalled a week or so later. Does anyone want to tackle that topic? Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 17, 2015, at 7:15 PM, Rick Dau wrote: > > Actually, Dennis, they're not being naughty. I had raised this same concern > about KLNG a couple years ago (I live about 2 miles NNW of their stick), and > Glenn Hauser and others pointed out that they are allowed to stay on until > two hours after local sunset. With as few listeners as they pull in (I've > not seen them show up in ANY book over the past 5 years), I wouldn't be > saddened to see KLNG disappear completely. > 73, Rick DauSouth Omaha, Nebraska >> From: wb6...@gmail.com >> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 18:10:07 -0800 >> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com >> Subject: Re: [IRCA] [mwdx] 1560 NYC off >> >> KLNG is being naughty. It's a 10 kW daytimer with 2.1 kW critical hours. The >> one half wavelength tower certainly helps. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Niel Wolfish wrote: >>> >>> Right now at 2026 Eastern 1560 is WBYS in Canton IL with girls high school >>> basketball. Also had a KLNG (Council Bluffs IA) ID at 2000. >>> Niel Wolfish, Toronto >>> >>> On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 1:23 AM, Rick Lewis >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hi Dennis, >>> I think KNZR was a clear channel allotment when it came on the air in the >>> 1930s as KPMC. (1932, I think.) >>> I don't know when the 1560 in NYC came on the air. >>> -- >>> Rick >>> -Original Message- >>> From: IRCA [mailto:irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Gibson >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 4:46 PM >>> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America >>> Subject: Re: [IRCA] [mwdx] 1560 NYC off >>> >>> Quite a few stations west of WQEW are daytimers with critical hours >>> authority. >>> >>> A little trivia. WQEW is authorized to use its daytime facilities until >>> sunset at KNZR in Bakersfield, CA; three extra hours. I don't know why. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 4:27 PM, Sylvain Naud wrote: Le 2015-02-17 18:59, Saul Chernos a écrit : > As of 1850 est > -- Thanks for the tip. I've just heard the WKDO ID, "15-60 AM, WKDO" Sylvain Naud Portneuf, QC Perseus + 350ft Beverage NE-SW ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com >>> ___ >>> IRCA mailing list >>> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com >>> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca >>> >>> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the >>> original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the >>> IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers >>> >>> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org >>> >>> To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> IRCA mailing list >>> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com >>> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca >>> >>> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the >>> original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the >>> IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers >>> >>> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org >>> >>> To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> IRCA mailing list >>> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com >>> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca >>> >>> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the >>> original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the >>> IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers >>> >>> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org >>> >>> To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com >> ___ >> IRCA mailing list >> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com >> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca >> >> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the >> original contribut
Re: [IRCA] 1560 NYC off
I don't know but asked someone who might. As for the WQEW/KNZR situation the only unusual thing I could find is that KNZR is a grandfathered Class A; 25 kW daytime and 10 kW nighttime. Most Class A stations are 50 kW full time. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 17, 2015, at 7:34 PM, Rick Dau wrote: > > And according to Earl Higgins, KCJJ in Iowa City (which was on 1560 with 1 kw > back in the day) was required to SIGN OFF COMPLETELY at Iowa City sunset to > protect KPMC and then allowed to sign back on at Bakersfield sunset! Is that > true? I asked KCJJ's current owner (someone who wasn't even involved with > the station until 1994) about that, and he says that was never the case. > But, then again, his knowledge of station history is a bit foggy. He keeps > denying that they signed off 1560 for good on October 13, 1998 with the > Beatles' "The End", when I KNOW that they did, because I recorded the darn > thing. 73, Rick Dau South Omaha, Nebraska >> From: wb6...@gmail.com >> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 16:45:43 -0800 >> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com >> Subject: Re: [IRCA] [mwdx] 1560 NYC off >> >> Quite a few stations west of WQEW are daytimers with critical hours >> authority. >> >> A little trivia. WQEW is authorized to use its daytime facilities until >> sunset at KNZR in Bakersfield, CA; three extra hours. I don't know why. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 4:27 PM, Sylvain Naud wrote: >>> >>> Le 2015-02-17 18:59, Saul Chernos a écrit : As of 1850 est -- >>> >>> Thanks for the tip. I've just heard the WKDO ID, "15-60 AM, WKDO" >>> >>> Sylvain Naud >>> Portneuf, QC >>> Perseus + 350ft Beverage NE-SW >>> ___ >>> IRCA mailing list >>> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com >>> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca >>> >>> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the >>> original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the >>> IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers >>> >>> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org >>> >>> To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com >> ___ >> IRCA mailing list >> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com >> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca >> >> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the >> original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the >> IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers >> >> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org >> >> To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com > > ___ > IRCA mailing list > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original > contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its > editors, publishing staff, or officers > > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org > > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com > ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] 1560 NYC off
Dennis, I don't rrecall exactly when, (I think it was after I left Bakersfield), but I think the 25Kw day power for KPMC/KNZR began in the late 1980s. I remember them as 10Kw day and night. They mainly signed off at midnight till the early 70s, then ran till 1 AM or later. They had so many local sports commitments that a few Saturday nights they'd run live Bakersfield College sports, and then they'd run tape-delayed sports events, sometimes until nearly 5:45 AM sign-on. -- Rick -Original Message- From: IRCA [mailto:irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Gibson Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 8:47 PM To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America Subject: Re: [IRCA] 1560 NYC off I don't know but asked someone who might. As for the WQEW/KNZR situation the only unusual thing I could find is that KNZR is a grandfathered Class A; 25 kW daytime and 10 kW nighttime. Most Class A stations are 50 kW full time. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 17, 2015, at 7:34 PM, Rick Dau wrote: > > And according to Earl Higgins, KCJJ in Iowa City (which was on 1560 with 1 kw > back in the day) was required to SIGN OFF COMPLETELY at Iowa City sunset to > protect KPMC and then allowed to sign back on at Bakersfield sunset! Is that > true? I asked KCJJ's current owner (someone who wasn't even involved with > the station until 1994) about that, and he says that was never the case. > But, then again, his knowledge of station history is a bit foggy. He keeps > denying that they signed off 1560 for good on October 13, 1998 with the > Beatles' "The End", when I KNOW that they did, because I recorded the darn > thing. 73, Rick Dau South Omaha, Nebraska >> From: wb6...@gmail.com >> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 16:45:43 -0800 >> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com >> Subject: Re: [IRCA] [mwdx] 1560 NYC off >> >> Quite a few stations west of WQEW are daytimers with critical hours >> authority. >> >> A little trivia. WQEW is authorized to use its daytime facilities until >> sunset at KNZR in Bakersfield, CA; three extra hours. I don't know why. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 4:27 PM, Sylvain Naud wrote: >>> >>> Le 2015-02-17 18:59, Saul Chernos a écrit : >>>> As of 1850 est >>>> -- >>> >>> Thanks for the tip. I've just heard the WKDO ID, "15-60 AM, WKDO" >>> >>> Sylvain Naud >>> Portneuf, QC >>> Perseus + 350ft Beverage NE-SW >>> ___ >>> IRCA mailing list >>> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com >>> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca >>> >>> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the >>> original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the >>> IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers >>> >>> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org >>> >>> To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com >> ___ >> IRCA mailing list >> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com >> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca >> >> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the >> original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the >> IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers >> >> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org >> >> To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com > > ___ > IRCA mailing list > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original > contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its > editors, publishing staff, or officers > > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org > > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com > ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] 1560 NYC off
The CP to increase to 25 kW daytime was granted in November of 1994. The license to cover was granted almost exactly a year later. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:15 PM, "Rick Lewis" wrote: > > Dennis, > I don't recall exactly when, (I think it was after I left Bakersfield), but I > think the 25Kw day power for KPMC/KNZR began in the late 1980s. > I remember them as 10Kw day and night. > They mainly signed off at midnight till the early 70s, then ran till 1 AM or > later. > They had so many local sports commitments that a few Saturday nights they'd > run live Bakersfield College sports, and then they'd run tape-delayed sports > events, sometimes until nearly 5:45 AM sign-on. > -- > Rick > > -Original Message- > From: IRCA [mailto:irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Gibson > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 8:47 PM > To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America > Subject: Re: [IRCA] 1560 NYC off > > I don't know but asked someone who might. > > As for the WQEW/KNZR situation the only unusual thing I could find is that > KNZR is a grandfathered Class A; 25 kW daytime and 10 kW nighttime. Most > Class A stations are 50 kW full time. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 17, 2015, at 7:34 PM, Rick Dau wrote: >> >> And according to Earl Higgins, KCJJ in Iowa City (which was on 1560 with 1 >> kw back in the day) was required to SIGN OFF COMPLETELY at Iowa City sunset >> to protect KPMC and then allowed to sign back on at Bakersfield sunset! Is >> that true? I asked KCJJ's current owner (someone who wasn't even involved >> with the station until 1994) about that, and he says that was never the >> case. But, then again, his knowledge of station history is a bit foggy. He >> keeps denying that they signed off 1560 for good on October 13, 1998 with >> the Beatles' "The End", when I KNOW that they did, because I recorded the >> darn thing. 73, Rick Dau South Omaha, Nebraska >>> From: wb6...@gmail.com >>> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 16:45:43 -0800 >>> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com >>> Subject: Re: [IRCA] [mwdx] 1560 NYC off >>> >>> Quite a few stations west of WQEW are daytimers with critical hours >>> authority. >>> >>> A little trivia. WQEW is authorized to use its daytime facilities until >>> sunset at KNZR in Bakersfield, CA; three extra hours. I don't know why. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 4:27 PM, Sylvain Naud wrote: >>>> >>>> Le 2015-02-17 18:59, Saul Chernos a écrit : >>>>> As of 1850 est >>>>> -- >>>> >>>> Thanks for the tip. I've just heard the WKDO ID, "15-60 AM, WKDO" >>>> >>>> Sylvain Naud >>>> Portneuf, QC >>>> Perseus + 350ft Beverage NE-SW >>>> ___ >>>> IRCA mailing list >>>> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com >>>> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca >>>> >>>> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the >>>> original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the >>>> IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers >>>> >>>> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org >>>> >>>> To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com >>> ___ >>> IRCA mailing list >>> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com >>> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca >>> >>> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the >>> original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the >>> IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers >>> >>> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org >>> >>> To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com >> >> ___ >> IRCA mailing list >> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com >> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca >> >> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the >> original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the >> IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers >> >> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org >> >> To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com > ___ > IR
