[JAWS-Users] A thank you letter.

[Ron Kolesar]

For those who tried to help me out with my ascending and descending reading 
order issues.
I called MS tech support and we found the problem. 

In the oneplace under view, I had to many items checked. 
All that I needed to be checked  was the date. 
Once we  unchecked priority and everything else, it now works. 
So many Thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] using windows mail and windows 10 the email fieldsaren't reading correctly

[Mike B]

Hi Joanne,

I don't run Windows 10 or Windows Mail but, the 1st thing that comes to mind 
is make sure the screen is maximized.
Take care.
Mike

- Original Message - 
From: joanne
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 7:00 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] using windows mail and windows 10 the email 
fieldsaren't reading correctly


With both Jaws 16 and 17, when composing an email in windows mail all the 
fields say rich edit control, instead of to, from, subject.  Can this rich 
edit control thing be taken away somehow?

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[JAWS-Users] Found two problems with jaws 17.;

[Ron Kolesar]

Hi to all. 
Has anyone else noticed the following with j 17 with win10? 
1. the dictionary will not work. 
2. When you tap your five key on the calculator keypad to do fanatic spelling, 
it works in the following way. 
You tap your five key on the first letter and it will spell fanatically for 
you. 
but right arrow to  the next letter. 
That next letter is not fanatically spelled. 
You have to tap your five key once again. 
Any one know if we can fix these problems? 
Thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] using windows mail and windows 10 the email fieldsaren't reading correctly

[Kimsan]

I had the same issue, if you are referring to the ahem hack.
However, others have stated it works with Jaws.
It just doesn't work for me, so I went back to outlook 2013.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 8:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] using windows mail and windows 10 the email
fieldsaren't reading correctly

Hi Joanne,

I don't run Windows 10 or Windows Mail but, the 1st thing that comes to mind
is make sure the screen is maximized.
Take care.
Mike

- Original Message -
From: joanne
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 7:00 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] using windows mail and windows 10 the email
fieldsaren't reading correctly


With both Jaws 16 and 17, when composing an email in windows mail all the
fields say rich edit control, instead of to, from, subject.  Can this rich
edit control thing be taken away somehow?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Asking a WLM question.

[Deon Lyons]

I believe this would solve his wlm inbox issue.

To change whether the messages in a folder are sorted in ascending or 
descending order:
1.On the View tab, press the Sort order menu button, which is in the 
Arrangement group.
2.The menu which opens contains the two options ascending and descending, 
and the current option is checked. Choose the option which you want.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, Differences Between Jaws Options & Customize Punctuation Settings

[LeDon Becker]

All very helpful. Thanks.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 5:51 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation,Differences Between Jaws Options & 
Customize Punctuation Settings


This is a note on the difference between changing punctuation settings in
Jaws options, Insert + V, & customize punctuation in the default settings
center / configuration manager.  They work backwards from one another.

When setting punctuation in Jaws options / quick settings, this controls the
amount of
punctuation JAWS will speak / recognize.  The default setting is most.  To
hear less
punctuation spoken you would select some or none.

When making changes in the customize punctuation list, this basically tells
Jaws how much of a selected punctuation mark to ignore.  If you do not want
Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you want to choose the
" all " selection.  You will have 4 radio buttons to arrow up or down
through.  They are none, some, most, & all.  In these selections they work
backwards than what you would think.  For example;  If you choose " none "
for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in
whatever you are reading.  On the other hand, if you choose the " all "
radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.

Hope this helps some of you understand the differences between the 2
punctuation setting options.

Take care.
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[JAWS-Users] outlook

[Patti]

Hey Gang,

When you open up your outlook, how do you get it to go directly to your
inbox?

What settings do you need to change?

Running 8.1, outlook 2007, J16.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Asking a WLM question.

[Ron Kolesar]

Tried your advice and it didn't work.
I also reunchecked having replys at the bottum.
The replys are better if they're at the top.
But The order that the come in I'd like to have the newer messages at the 
bottum.
Now also, if I only could figure out why the documents are going into the 
down load folder instead of the doc folder like they're suppose to.

Thanks for trying.

-Original Message- 
From: Janie Degenshein

Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2015 10:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Asking a WLM question.

   Hey there
well
use control shift o for options and then use control tab until you get to
advanced page
now tab through until you get to
reply on the bottom of a message and make that check box unchecked
tab to okay and you should be good to go
Let me know if this worked for you
woo hoo
-Original Message- 
From: Ron Kolesar

Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 9:57 PM
To: JAWS Mailing List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Asking a WLM question.

For some weird reason my mail is stuck with the new mail at the top.
I would prefer to have the new mail at the bottum.
That way you can to a ctrl U ans start reading your mail.
Would anyone know how to fix this small problem?
Thanks.
Ron and current Leader Dog Boz who states:
"A Guide Dog or Service Dog beats a long white cane paws down any day of the
week."
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[JAWS-Users] If you're not ready for Win10, beware of Windows Update

[Don & Cher]

A windows update which came down yesterday afternoon, installed Win10
without my permission. The automatic update brought up a screen about
downloading Win10. MS had downloaded Win10 months ago, but this screen made
me question what I knew. There were 2 options- "download and upgrade" and
"download but do not upgrade". I selected the last option- thinking that
either I had been mistaken about Win10 already being fully downloaded or
that the major updates to Win10 required a new download of Win10.

 

However, after the download, I started seeing a 'preparing to install'
message and this morning was presented with a license accept screen. I
called the accessibility desk to uninstall and hide this update. I don't
plan on installing till early spring when I will have more time. I hope no
one else will get caught unprepared as I did last night ;)

 

Cher

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Asking a WLM question.

[Dave Carlson]

Ron,

If WLM is anything like Windows Mail or OE, then look for the view menu, and 
perhaps a separate menu for "sort by". Change Descending to Ascending. 
Otherwise, you may be able to reverse by using your JAWS cursor and the left 
mouse click to tap on the column heading for the received date.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Ron Kolesar" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 06:38 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Asking a WLM question.


Tried your advice and it didn't work.
I also reunchecked having replys at the bottum.
The replys are better if they're at the top.
But The order that the come in I'd like to have the newer messages at the
bottum.
Now also, if I only could figure out why the documents are going into the
down load folder instead of the doc folder like they're suppose to.
Thanks for trying.

-Original Message- 
From: Janie Degenshein
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2015 10:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Asking a WLM question.

Hey there
well
use control shift o for options and then use control tab until you get to
advanced page
now tab through until you get to
reply on the bottom of a message and make that check box unchecked
tab to okay and you should be good to go
Let me know if this worked for you
woo hoo
-Original Message- 
From: Ron Kolesar
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 9:57 PM
To: JAWS Mailing List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Asking a WLM question.

For some weird reason my mail is stuck with the new mail at the top.
I would prefer to have the new mail at the bottum.
That way you can to a ctrl U ans start reading your mail.
Would anyone know how to fix this small problem?
Thanks.
Ron and current Leader Dog Boz who states:
"A Guide Dog or Service Dog beats a long white cane paws down any day of the
week."
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 FIND COMMAND WHILE IN OUTLOOK

[Reed Poynter]

How about Control+Insert+f

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of john_Justice
Sent: December-03-15 8:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 FIND COMMAND WHILE IN OUTLOOK

I must be getting old.  I'm using Jaws 17 and Outlook 2010. I don't use the
Jaws Find command much so I have forgotten which key combination it is.

I tried INSERT+F  and all that does is read the attributes.

I have a long file that I have to get through.  What, for goodness sake, is
the correct Jaws Find command in an e-mail message, using Outlook 2010?

JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE

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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 FIND COMMAND WHILE IN OUTLOOK

[john_Justice]

I must be getting old.  I'm using Jaws 17 and Outlook 2010. I don't use the
Jaws Find command much so I have forgotten which key combination it is.

I tried INSERT+F  and all that does is read the attributes.

I have a long file that I have to get through.  What, for goodness sake, is
the correct Jaws Find command in an e-mail message, using Outlook 2010?

JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE

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[JAWS-Users] can ribbon menus be removed in windows 10

[David Bailes]

Hi Joanne,
although you can't disable the ribbons, there are at least a couple of ways of 
changing the view setting which don't involve using the ribbon.
The first is to use shortcuts. Press ctrl+alt+5 for a list view, and press 
ctrl+alt+6 for a details view. (Note these shortcuts were ctrl+shift+number in 
windows 8 and 8.1).
The second is that with no items selected in the items view (you can press 
ctrl+spacebar to deselect an item if necessary), you can open a context menu, 
which contains a view sub menu.

David. 

original message:
I am using a friend's Windows 10 machine and I like being able to sort my songs 
and other lists in a list view.  When I hit alt V hoping to see status bar, 
list, etc., I see lower ribbon and something about panes and I am really upset 
that I can't get rid of these things and go back to the ability to sort by 
details or list, etc.  Can these ribbons be disabled?  I hope? 

Thanks. 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] If you're not ready for Win10, beware of Windows Update

[Bobb Wiley]

Thanks for the heads up on this.

I, for one, am not going to try to adapt to another operating system just 
now, not if I can help it.

Bob

-Original Message- 
From: Don & Cher
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 8:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] If you're not ready for Win10, beware of Windows 
Update

A windows update which came down yesterday afternoon, installed Win10
without my permission. The automatic update brought up a screen about
downloading Win10. MS had downloaded Win10 months ago, but this screen made
me question what I knew. There were 2 options- "download and upgrade" and
"download but do not upgrade". I selected the last option- thinking that
either I had been mistaken about Win10 already being fully downloaded or
that the major updates to Win10 required a new download of Win10.



However, after the download, I started seeing a 'preparing to install'
message and this morning was presented with a license accept screen. I
called the accessibility desk to uninstall and hide this update. I don't
plan on installing till early spring when I will have more time. I hope no
one else will get caught unprepared as I did last night ;)



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Re: [JAWS-Users] outlook

[Dave Carlson]

This might help:

Alt+T for Tools
Then Options
Then move to the Other Tab
Then Tab to Advanced Options Button

Change the Combo Box titled:
Start Up in this Folder

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Kimber Gardner" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 07:22 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] outlook


I haven't used outlook 2007 in a long time, but there's a checkbox
under customize that says something like start in outlook today. You
want to uncheck that.



On 12/3/15, Patti  wrote:
> Hey Gang,
>
> When you open up your outlook, how do you get it to go directly to your
> inbox?
>
> What settings do you need to change?
>
> Running 8.1, outlook 2007, J16.
>
> Thanks Patti
>
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] outlook

[Kimber Gardner]

I haven't used outlook 2007 in a long time, but there's a checkbox
under customize that says something like start in outlook today. You
want to uncheck that.



On 12/3/15, Patti  wrote:
> Hey Gang,
>
> When you open up your outlook, how do you get it to go directly to your
> inbox?
>
> What settings do you need to change?
>
> Running 8.1, outlook 2007, J16.
>
> Thanks Patti
>
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] If you're not ready for Win10, beware of Windows Update

[K. Washington]

This is one of the reasons I now use the monitoring featuring of the 
free GWX Control Panel tool:

http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/

"This is a free tool that can remove and disable the 'Get Windows 10' 
notification area icon on Windows 7 and Windows 8. Newer versions can 
also disable 'Upgrade to Windows 10' behavior in the Windows Update 
control panel."


I'm still using Windows 7 Home Edition (64 bit) with the latest build 
of JAWS 17 and a TripleTalk USB synth. The application is completely 
accessible. Give it a look.


At 09:15 AM 12/3/2015, you wrote:

A windows update which came down yesterday afternoon, installed Win10
without my permission. The automatic update brought up a screen about
downloading Win10. MS had downloaded Win10 months ago, but this screen made
me question what I knew. There were 2 options- "download and upgrade" and
"download but do not upgrade". I selected the last option- thinking that
either I had been mistaken about Win10 already being fully downloaded or
that the major updates to Win10 required a new download of Win10.



However, after the download, I started seeing a 'preparing to install'
message and this morning was presented with a license accept screen. I
called the accessibility desk to uninstall and hide this update. I don't
plan on installing till early spring when I will have more time. I hope no
one else will get caught unprepared as I did last night ;)



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Re: [JAWS-Users] outlook

[Patti]

How do you get to customize
I haven't used outlook 2007 in a long time, but there's a checkbox under
customize that says something like start in outlook today. You want to
uncheck that.



On 12/3/15, Patti  wrote:
> Hey Gang,
>
> When you open up your outlook, how do you get it to go directly to 
> your inbox?
>
> What settings do you need to change?
>
> Running 8.1, outlook 2007, J16.
>
> Thanks Patti
>
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] can ribbon menus be removed in windows 10

[Maria Campbell]

I feel the exact same way.  I think ribbons are evil and unnecessary. 
Why create layers of hidden menus when the menu bar used to show all 
that could be done, and which was so much more accessible?
I will avoid them till I can no longer.  Hopefully, by then I will be 
able to use my voice to get done what I need, if I live that long.



On 12/3/2015 12:43 PM, joanne wrote:

I hope I won't get in trouble for possibly making this more of a thank
you message, and yes those can clutter an in box.  But I do want to say
that, for example, in the case of ribbons, I appreciated David Bales'
suggestions and they worked beautifully.  I like that this group
presents many approaches to the handling of apps and various
work-arounds using Jaws. We're all learning, and for those of us who
don't always understand new apps or layouts I appreciate help from those
who can present an easier or, to me, familiar way of reaching my goals.

I wouldn't mind learning more about ribbons and maybe there's a tutorial
to explain them.  But they don't make sense to me and I can't picture
their layout or how to find their menus.  Someone suggested turning the
virtual ribbon feature off in Jaws and I know many others use it.  I'd
be glad to hear an explanation of what exactly they are and how to find
the menus you need.  I am using older email programs for this very
reason--ribbons don't make sense.  So if there's a tutorial that
explains them thoroughly I would check one out if anyone knows of one.

But in the meantime I'm so relieved there are still other ways to avoid
them till I learn more.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] My shortcut keys

[Gerald Levy]

Indeed there is.  Just visit the JAWS Users programs page and download a 
little utility called Hot Key Detective (item 42 under the Utilities 
heading), which will list all of your shortcut keys:


http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Reed Poynter

Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 3:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] My shortcut keys

Hello,



I have assigned control+alt+J to my JAWS 16 shortcut on my desktop.  I have
assigned shift+control+J to JAWS 15.

Under Windows 7, is there a way to show a list of these shortcut key
assignments that I've made?  Or, is there a program that will do this for
me?



Thanks,



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Re: [JAWS-Users] My shortcut keys

[Reed Poynter]

Hey!  Thanks!  I'll check it out.

Reed

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Behalf Of Gerald Levy 
Sent: December-03-15 1:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] My shortcut keys


Indeed there is.  Just visit the JAWS Users programs page and download a
little utility called Hot Key Detective (item 42 under the Utilities
heading), which will list all of your shortcut keys:

http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/


Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Reed Poynter
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 3:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] My shortcut keys

Hello,



I have assigned control+alt+J to my JAWS 16 shortcut on my desktop.  I have
assigned shift+control+J to JAWS 15.

Under Windows 7, is there a way to show a list of these shortcut key
assignments that I've made?  Or, is there a program that will do this for
me?



Thanks,



Reed

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[JAWS-Users] Opening PDF documents in Acrobat Reader instead of a browser such as IE, revisited

[Mike O'Brien]

Hi

I had made the changes to the Adobe Reader startup Accessibility Assistant
and accessibility preferences that were recommended by FS.  PDF documents
were being opened in Adobe Reader as expected until I accepted the download
and installation of the latest version of Adobe Reader, titled Adobe Acrobat
Reader DC, version 15.009.20079.  Now, when I press enter or space on a web
site  link to download a PDF document, it just opens up in a new IE window.
This new IE window has no menus, including the context menu brought up by
the applications key or shift F10, no link and no buttons to be able to
download it.  The PDF document is processed by Adobe reader and can be read
with JAWS.  But there is no way to save it to my computer.  I know that on
some web sites, when I'm positioned on a link, I can bring up the context
menu and press enter on the Save as option to download the document.  But
many of the sites from which I download PDF documents, the save as option is
grayed and unavailable.  This behavior exists using both JAWS 16 and 17.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Pinky
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 10:00
To: JAWS-Users-List 2
Subject: [JAWS-Users] FS way of making PDF files load in a separate window
in IE

Hi Group,

This morning I receive an email from FS support on how to make PDF files
open in a separate window in IE. Below is the instructions. They seem to be
a lot easier then what I sent out yesterday. I have not tried it as I got my
Adobe working with the instructions I gave you yesterday. So if you try FS
instructions and it workds for you please email back and let the group know.
Below is the instructions from FS.

 

 

How to get Adobe Reader to open in its own window by Freedom Scientific 

You actually make this change in the Adobe Reader application using the
instructions below:

 

A. Using the Accessibility Set Up Assistant

When you launch a PDF the first time, the accessibility set up assistant
opens. If the accessibility wizard has already run, do the following to open
it:

1. Press ALT+E to open the Edit menu.

2. Press Y to select Accessibility submenu.

3. Press ENTER on Set Up Assistant. The first page of this five page dialog
box opens. The default choice is fine, press ENTER to move to the next page.

4. On the second page you can change things if you wish, but by default it
is OK. Press ENTER to move to page three.

5. On the third page you can change things if you wish, but by default it is
OK. Press ENTER to move to page four.

6. On the fourth page, if you want to use the list of links, list of
headings, and the JAWS find command so on to access long documents, change
the radio button from

"For large documents, only read the currently visible pages"

to 

"Read the entire document at once."

If you do not make this change, in long documents JAWS only sees the links
and headings on the current page. Additionally, JAWS can only search the
current page with the JAWS find command. If you do select read the entire
document at once, it may take a few seconds longer to process large
documents, but it is worth it to be able to see the links and  headings in
the entire document, or to search the entire document with the JAWS find.

7. Press ENTER to move to page five of the Set Up Assistant.

8. If the check box for Reopen documents to the last viewed page is checked,
you may want to uncheck this. It is a personal preference. TAB through until
you reach the check box for "Display PDF documents in the web browser," and
uncheck it.

9. Press ENTER to activate the Done button.

 

B. Additional changes in Adobe Reader XI preferences.

1. Press CTRL+K to open the Adobe Reader XI preferences.

2. In the Categories list on the left side of the dialog box, choose
Accessibility.

3. Press TAB to move to the item, Show Portfolios in Files mode (not checked
by default) - check this.

4. Press TAB to move back to the Categories list and choose Security
(Enhanced).

5. Press TAB to move to Enable Protected Mode at startup (checked by
default) - uncheck this.

6. Press TAB to move to the OK button, and activate it with the SPACEBAR.

 

NOTE: The option to view PDF documents in the browser is no longer found in
the Preferences. You must use the Set Up Assistant to find this

This is the option you want to make sure you change so it will not show the
PDF files in the browser.

 

  Be sure to include all previous correspondence pertaining to this matter
when replying to this message so that we might better

assist you. 

 

 Regards,

Tracey Jackson

technical Support Specialist

Freedom Scientific, Inc

(727)803-8600

  supp...@freedomscientific.com

 

 

 

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[JAWS-Users] My shortcut keys

[Reed Poynter]

Hello,

 

I have assigned control+alt+J to my JAWS 16 shortcut on my desktop.  I have
assigned shift+control+J to JAWS 15.  

Under Windows 7, is there a way to show a list of these shortcut key
assignments that I've made?  Or, is there a program that will do this for
me?

 

Thanks,

 

Reed

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Asking a WLM question.

[Ron Kolesar]

Thanks to the disability Ms tech support. SMILES.
I found out that I had to many checked in the one item that's under view.
The only thing that should had been check was by date.
Then the asend and descend worked like a charm.
But Iappreciate the help though.
Many Thanks.

-Original Message- 
From: Janie Degenshein

Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2015 10:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Asking a WLM question.

   Hey there
well
use control shift o for options and then use control tab until you get to
advanced page
now tab through until you get to
reply on the bottom of a message and make that check box unchecked
tab to okay and you should be good to go
Let me know if this worked for you
woo hoo
-Original Message- 
From: Ron Kolesar

Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 9:57 PM
To: JAWS Mailing List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Asking a WLM question.

For some weird reason my mail is stuck with the new mail at the top.
I would prefer to have the new mail at the bottum.
That way you can to a ctrl U ans start reading your mail.
Would anyone know how to fix this small problem?
Thanks.
Ron and current Leader Dog Boz who states:
"A Guide Dog or Service Dog beats a long white cane paws down any day of the
week."
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[JAWS-Users] Reading of Roman Numerals

[Annette Carr]

Hi all,

 

I am using Windows7, Office 2010 and JAWS16 on both my work and personal
laptops.  When outlining information using Roman Numerals in MS-Word and
Outlook, JAWS is reading I I as a number 2, and I I I as number 3.  JAWS
reads all other Roman numerals phonetically.  I'm finding this confusing.  I
just switched over to JAWS14, and found that the problem also exists with
this combination.  Does anyone know of a way to have JAWS read all Roman
numerals phonetically?  

 

Thanks,

Annette

 

 

 

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[JAWS-Users] Help Windows 10

[T. Civitello]

could someone please tell me how to get to the removable drives in Windows 10.
I am trying to install Jaws from the 17 disk. I have auto play set to open the 
disk in file explorer but it is not working and I can’t locate the drives.  Tom

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[JAWS-Users] copying over all JFW16 settings to JFW17

[Dujari, Prateek]

Hi gang.
The freedom scientific JAWS17 web page has a section called 'Merge Utility' 
where it basically says that due to some key changes made in JFW17, the merge 
utility option has been intentionally removed by FS. Has anyone tried to just 
copy the ENU folder from JAWS16 and replaced the default ENU folder in JAWS17 
with it and if so has that successfully copied over all your 16 settings to 17?

Prateek 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Help Windows 10

[Kevin]

your drives may be displayed horizontally in this case you want to arrow to 
the bottom of after opening this pc then arrow right


-Original Message- 
From: T. Civitello

Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 3:32 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Help Windows 10

could someone please tell me how to get to the removable drives in Windows 
10.
I am trying to install Jaws from the 17 disk. I have auto play set to open 
the disk in file explorer but it is not working and I can’t locate the 
drives.  Tom


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Help Windows 10

[David Moore]

Hi,
Go to this PC and press enter and down arrow to the drives. Have a great 
one. David Moore (win10 list moderator)



-Original Message- 
From: T. Civitello

Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 6:32 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Help Windows 10

could someone please tell me how to get to the removable drives in Windows 
10.
I am trying to install Jaws from the 17 disk. I have auto play set to open 
the disk in file explorer but it is not working and I can’t locate the 
drives.  Tom


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Re: [JAWS-Users] If you're not ready for Win10, beware of Windows Update

[David Moore]

Hi there,
There is no better time to up grade to win10 than now. It is twice as fast, 
JAWS and NVDA work with it great, and it is much easier to navigate. You 
also have cortana which obeys your commands to do things on the computer for 
you and to answer many questions. I and many many JAWS and NVDA users have 
already upgraded to win10 and love it and will never look back. Please quit 
being afraid to explore the unknown. It just might be 10 times more 
rewarding when you finally get the nerve to explore and find your reward. 
Have a good one.



-Original Message- 
From: Bobb Wiley

Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] If you're not ready for Win10,beware of Windows 
Update


Thanks for the heads up on this.

I, for one, am not going to try to adapt to another operating system just
now, not if I can help it.

Bob

-Original Message- 
From: Don & Cher

Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 8:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] If you're not ready for Win10, beware of Windows
Update

A windows update which came down yesterday afternoon, installed Win10
without my permission. The automatic update brought up a screen about
downloading Win10. MS had downloaded Win10 months ago, but this screen made
me question what I knew. There were 2 options- "download and upgrade" and
"download but do not upgrade". I selected the last option- thinking that
either I had been mistaken about Win10 already being fully downloaded or
that the major updates to Win10 required a new download of Win10.



However, after the download, I started seeing a 'preparing to install'
message and this morning was presented with a license accept screen. I
called the accessibility desk to uninstall and hide this update. I don't
plan on installing till early spring when I will have more time. I hope no
one else will get caught unprepared as I did last night ;)



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Re: [JAWS-Users] If you're not ready for Win10, beware of Windows Update

[David Ferrin]

I've updated one system already and just waiting for a good time to update
this tower. You know when I don't have anything to do for most of a day.
It's just a convenience kind of thing at this point.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

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Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 7:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] If you're not ready for Win10, beware of Windows
Update

Hi there,
There is no better time to upgrade to win10 than now. It is twice as fast,
JAWS and NVDA work with it great, and it is much easier to navigate. You
also have cortana which obeys your commands to do things on the computer for
you and to answer many questions. I and many many JAWS and NVDA users have
already upgraded to win10 and love it and will never look back. Please quit
being afraid to explore the unknown. It just might be 10 times more
rewarding when you finally get the nerve to explore and find your reward. 
Have a good one.


-Original Message-
From: Bob Wiley
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] If you're not ready for Win10,beware of Windows
Update

Thanks for the heads up on this.

I, for one, am not going to try to adapt to another operating system just
now, not if I can help it.

Bob

-Original Message-
From: Don & Cher
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 8:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] If you're not ready for Win10, beware of Windows
Update

A windows update which came down yesterday afternoon, installed Win10
without my permission. The automatic update brought up a screen about
downloading Win10. MS had downloaded Win10 months ago, but this screen made
me question what I knew. There were 2 options- "download and upgrade" and
"download but do not upgrade". I selected the last option- thinking that
either I had been mistaken about Win10 already being fully downloaded or
that the major updates to Win10 required a new download of Win10.



However, after the download, I started seeing a 'preparing to install'
message and this morning was presented with a license accept screen. I
called the accessibility desk to uninstall and hide this update. I don't
plan on installing till early spring when I will have more time. I hope no
one else will get caught unprepared as I did last night ;)



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Opening PDF documents in Acrobat Reader instead of a browser such as IE, revisited

[john_Justice]

Hello Mike,
I have two reasons for responding to your original message.
Can you send me the procedure for setting up Adobe Acrobat to open in the
manner you described?

Once your .pdf document is displayed, can you virtualize the screen and copy
the document in that way?
The only issue I can see there is that you'd have an interesting challenge
with documents having multiple pages.


JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net

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Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 2:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Opening PDF documents in Acrobat Reader instead of a
browser such as IE, revisited

Hi

I had made the changes to the Adobe Reader startup Accessibility Assistant
and accessibility preferences that were recommended by FS.  PDF documents
were being opened in Adobe Reader as expected until I accepted the download
and installation of the latest version of Adobe Reader, titled Adobe Acrobat
Reader DC, version 15.009.20079.  Now, when I press enter or space on a web
site  link to download a PDF document, it just opens up in a new IE window.
This new IE window has no menus, including the context menu brought up by
the applications key or shift F10, no link and no buttons to be able to
download it.  The PDF document is processed by Adobe reader and can be read
with JAWS.  But there is no way to save it to my computer.  I know that on
some web sites, when I'm positioned on a link, I can bring up the context
menu and press enter on the Save as option to download the document.  But
many of the sites from which I download PDF documents, the save as option is
grayed and unavailable.  This behavior exists using both JAWS 16 and 17.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Pinky
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 10:00
To: JAWS-Users-List 2
Subject: [JAWS-Users] FS way of making PDF files load in a separate window
in IE

Hi Group,

This morning I receive an email from FS support on how to make PDF files
open in a separate window in IE. Below is the instructions. They seem to be
a lot easier then what I sent out yesterday. I have not tried it as I got my
Adobe working with the instructions I gave you yesterday. So if you try FS
instructions and it workds for you please email back and let the group know.
Below is the instructions from FS.

 

 

How to get Adobe Reader to open in its own window by Freedom Scientific 

You actually make this change in the Adobe Reader application using the
instructions below:

 

A. Using the Accessibility Set Up Assistant

When you launch a PDF the first time, the accessibility set up assistant
opens. If the accessibility wizard has already run, do the following to open
it:

1. Press ALT+E to open the Edit menu.

2. Press Y to select Accessibility submenu.

3. Press ENTER on Set Up Assistant. The first page of this five page dialog
box opens. The default choice is fine, press ENTER to move to the next page.

4. On the second page you can change things if you wish, but by default it
is OK. Press ENTER to move to page three.

5. On the third page you can change things if you wish, but by default it is
OK. Press ENTER to move to page four.

6. On the fourth page, if you want to use the list of links, list of
headings, and the JAWS find command so on to access long documents, change
the radio button from

"For large documents, only read the currently visible pages"

to 

"Read the entire document at once."

If you do not make this change, in long documents JAWS only sees the links
and headings on the current page. Additionally, JAWS can only search the
current page with the JAWS find command. If you do select read the entire
document at once, it may take a few seconds longer to process large
documents, but it is worth it to be able to see the links and  headings in
the entire document, or to search the entire document with the JAWS find.

7. Press ENTER to move to page five of the Set Up Assistant.

8. If the check box for Reopen documents to the last viewed page is checked,
you may want to uncheck this. It is a personal preference. TAB through until
you reach the check box for "Display PDF documents in the web browser," and
uncheck it.

9. Press ENTER to activate the Done button.

 

B. Additional changes in Adobe Reader XI preferences.

1. Press CTRL+K to open the Adobe Reader XI preferences.

2. In the Categories list on the left side of the dialog box, choose
Accessibility.

3. Press TAB to move to the item, Show Portfolios in Files mode (not checked
by default) - check this.

4. Press TAB to move back to the Categories list and choose Security
(Enhanced).

5. Press TAB to move to Enable Protected Mode at startup (checked by
default) - uncheck this.

6. Press TAB to move to the OK button, and activate it with the SPACEBAR.

 

NOTE: The option to view PDF documents in the 

[JAWS-Users] WARNING! some key combinations do not work with wireless keyboards

[john_Justice]

I'm using a laptop and an older HP wireless keyboard.  The Jaws Find command
CONTROL+INSERT+F  doesn't work at all on this particular wireless keyboard.

My HP 4140 has a full keyboard with a keypad.  I tried the same key
combination on that board and it worked.

 

There's no way to check for sure but that does concern me.

You buy a board expecting it to work just like a hard wired version and it
doesn't.

 

 

JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Help Windows 10

[T. Civitello]

 Thanks, had a little trouble finding This PC. but once 
I did things went well. The only trouble I am having now  is that when I try 
to install the Jaws training material it says it can't find the Jaws disk in 
the drive and the disk is there.  Tom


-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 6:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Help Windows 10

your drives may be displayed horizontally in this case you want to arrow to
the bottom of after opening this pc then arrow right

-Original Message- 
From: T. Civitello

Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 3:32 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Help Windows 10

could someone please tell me how to get to the removable drives in Windows
10.
I am trying to install Jaws from the 17 disk. I have auto play set to open
the disk in file explorer but it is not working and I can’t locate the
drives.  Tom

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Re: [JAWS-Users] WARNING! some key combinations do not work with wireless keyboards

[Merv Keck]

Hi,
I was actually a bit surprised to find that I had the same experience on
this Logitech keyboard. It is not all that old, maybe two years old as far
as the model is concerned. I just bought it about two months ago from Amazon
however. And my laptop is about five months old and also works very well in
contrast to the wireless keyboard. I wonder if that has been reported to FS
as a bug yet.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of john_Justice
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 8:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] WARNING! some key combinations do not work with
wireless keyboards

I'm using a laptop and an older HP wireless keyboard.  The Jaws Find command
CONTROL+INSERT+F  doesn't work at all on this particular wireless keyboard.

My HP 4140 has a full keyboard with a keypad.  I tried the same key
combination on that board and it worked.

 

There's no way to check for sure but that does concern me.

You buy a board expecting it to work just like a hard wired version and it
doesn't.

 

 

JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE

PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net

 



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[JAWS-Users] using windows mail and windows 10 the email fields aren't reading correctly

[joanne]

With both Jaws 16 and 17, when composing an email in windows mail all the 
fields say rich edit control, instead of to, from, subject.  Can this rich edit 
control thing be taken away somehow?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] can ribbon menus be removed in windows 10

[joanne]

I hope I won't get in trouble for possibly making this more of a thank you 
message, and yes those can clutter an in box.  But I do want to say that, 
for example, in the case of ribbons, I appreciated David Bales' suggestions 
and they worked beautifully.  I like that this group presents many 
approaches to the handling of apps and various work-arounds using Jaws. 
We're all learning, and for those of us who don't always understand new apps 
or layouts I appreciate help from those who can present an easier or, to me, 
familiar way of reaching my goals.


I wouldn't mind learning more about ribbons and maybe there's a tutorial to 
explain them.  But they don't make sense to me and I can't picture their 
layout or how to find their menus.  Someone suggested turning the virtual 
ribbon feature off in Jaws and I know many others use it.  I'd be glad to 
hear an explanation of what exactly they are and how to find the menus you 
need.  I am using older email programs for this very reason--ribbons don't 
make sense.  So if there's a tutorial that explains them thoroughly I would 
check one out if anyone knows of one.


But in the meantime I'm so relieved there are still other ways to avoid them 
till I learn more.


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