[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: What exactly is jbpm.sar good for?
kukeltje wrote : As soon as I know a little more, I'll post it in the forum. @Ronald: Thank you. I appreciate your efforts in this forum to help us learn more about jBPM. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3942387#3942387 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3942387 --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ JBoss-user mailing list JBoss-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: What exactly is jbpm.sar good for?
Yes thanks Ronald for looking into it. Yesterday evening (reading a german JBOSS Book) I found another hint in the chapter about the mbean server. So first one would have to find the mbean server by a MBEanServerLocater.locateJBoss(). Then an ObjectName needs to be created with the name of the requested MBean. With the ObjectName returned one can call the mbean's methods with a ms.invoke(objectName,mymethod,...) where ms is teh mbean server returned from the locateJBoss(). I have not looked into the webapp for this yet... (have some real work to do) View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3942400#3942400 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3942400 --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ JBoss-user mailing list JBoss-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: What exactly is jbpm.sar good for?
My first impressions: - the mbean is of type JbpmService - it creates a JbpmConfiguration which it binds in the jndi tree - in the webapp (jsf based) the JbpmBean plays an important role, especially the method getJbpmContext() So most likely it would be enough to do something like JbpmContext jbpmContext = JbpmConfiguration.getInstance().createJbpmContext(); And as far as I can tell, there is no difference between using jBPM from the sar or embedded. It could be however that there are some changes in this area (I know some things are goiong on to change from mbean deployed to jca) Further I have not tried this yet (no time today) but asked Tom to give a short comment on this. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3942438#3942438 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3942438 --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ JBoss-user mailing list JBoss-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: What exactly is jbpm.sar good for?
I was just looking at that as well. It seems to me that the approach is broken (redundant). As far as i can read the current code, the JbpmConfiguration that is put in JNDI is never used. When the JbpmConfiguration.getInstance() method it used, it lazy initializes a JbpmConfiguration based on the resource 'jbpm.cfg.xml'. This configuration is cached in a static variable in JbpmConfiguration. So the jBPM configuration used is the one that is cached in the JbpmConfiguration static member rather then the JNDI one. This lead to the following basic question: what is the benefit of putting something in JNDI ? http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3942144#3942144 That thread also discusses something relevant. Namely: should we create a JCA .rar that publishes JbpmConfiguration into JNDI so that we have a portable way of deploying jBPM on an app server. So for now, I don't see a problem with the current approach. (except for the redundency that the JbpmConfiguration that is published in JNDI is never used) View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3942442#3942442 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3942442 --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ JBoss-user mailing list JBoss-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: What exactly is jbpm.sar good for?
one more thing. i didn't yet answer the question what is the jbpm.sar good for the way we use it now, it is an alternative way to put the jbpm libs on the global classpath. it also allows us to publish JbpmConfiguration to JNDI, but as stated in the previous post, that is never used and redundant. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3942443#3942443 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3942443 --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ JBoss-user mailing list JBoss-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: What exactly is jbpm.sar good for?
May I assume that there is no conflict if multiple webapps (which I'm trying now) are using the same config/database/etc... View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3942449#3942449 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3942449 --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ JBoss-user mailing list JBoss-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: What exactly is jbpm.sar good for?
Thanks btw Tom for responding so promptly View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3942452#3942452 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3942452 --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ JBoss-user mailing list JBoss-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: What exactly is jbpm.sar good for?
Can you explain this a little bit more or give some pointer to the docs to understand this more precisely ?.anonymous wrote : the way we use it now, it is an alternative way to put the jbpm libs on the global classpath. I'd conclude from it that everything that is deployed as a sar (which is the way mbeans are deployed ?) is accessible from any other ear, war and thus I'd never have to use either jndi lookup of the mbean or the other ways mentioned in the JMX Microkernel chapters ? In a german textbook they access the mbean via ObjectName,MBeanServer,invoke (which I have not found in the english doc yet; Ok I did not look closely enough `-:) View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3942470#3942470 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3942470 --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ JBoss-user mailing list JBoss-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: What exactly is jbpm.sar good for?
Partially true. If you just load them as classes, that is just what they are. Loading them via the mbean server gives you additional functionality like stopping it, monitoring it etc via JMX, depending on the functionality in the bean. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3942474#3942474 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3942474 --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ JBoss-user mailing list JBoss-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: What exactly is jbpm.sar good for?
OK, thanks for the discussion. I'll think/read about it. I'm still wondering about the MBeanServer.invoke() vs. accessing it as a static instance... View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3942477#3942477 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3942477 --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ JBoss-user mailing list JBoss-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: What exactly is jbpm.sar good for?
indeed no conflict. to install multiple jbpm configurations in one server is the easiest by using different, non-default configurations e.g. a left.jbpm.cfg.xml and right.jbpm.cfg.xml in the classpath. then use JbpmConfiguration.getInstance(left.jbpm.cfg.xml); to get the left jbpm instance. to have different versions of jbpm in your server, you need to configure scoped classloaders in jboss and package the jbpms into different .ear files. those are the most straightforward deployment models that you can persue out of the top of my head. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3942484#3942484 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3942484 --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ JBoss-user mailing list JBoss-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: What exactly is jbpm.sar good for?
anonymous wrote : one more thing. i didn't yet answer the question what is
the jbpm.sar good for
|
| the way we use it now, it is an alternative way to put the jbpm libs on the
global classpath.
|
| it also allows us to publish JbpmConfiguration to JNDI, but as stated in
the previous post, that is never used and redundant.
Well I've been using the SAR for quite a while (just in case you thought nobody
was using it). I've got stress testing with hundreds of users in separate
threads all getting, using, and closing sessions with: (obviously abbreviated)
| JbpmConfiguration jbpmConfig = null;
| log.debug(Getting jbpm config from JNDI);
| Context ctx = new InitialContext();
| try {
| jbpmConfig =
(JbpmConfiguration)ctx.lookup(java:/jbpm/JbpmConfiguration);
| } catch (Exception e) {
| log.debug(Failed getting context object: +e);
| }
| if (jbpmConfig!=null) {
| log.debug(Getting jbpmContext from config);
| jbpmContext = jbpmConfig.createJbpmContext();
| } else {
| log.error(JbpmConfiguration is null);
| }
| return jbpmConfig
|
I also use the SAR to deploy the JBPM jars, config files, and my own assignment
handlers bundled in a jar. Additionally, I've got changes to JBPM queries that
are deployed as a new hibernate.queries.hbm.xml in the SAR (which is rebuilt
and deployed as part of my build process).
So if you look hard enough you might find a use. :)
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[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: What exactly is jbpm.sar good for?
Right now my application (btw. a struts liferay portlet) comes with its own set of hibernate.cfg.xml and jbpm.cfg.xml. However, it does not 'feel' right, since these files also lie in the service archive as well. Maybe I am asking too obvious questions - the problem is I do not find anything about the jbpm.sar in the documentation, except in Chapter 8. Thanks for helping me out. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3942122#3942122 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3942122 --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ JBoss-user mailing list JBoss-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: What exactly is jbpm.sar good for?
I think the situation is similar to sample mbean (JNDIMap) from the official JBOSS 4.0 guide. According to that (page 95) a simple jndi lookup should make it (to get JbpmConfiguration). But I (as you) have not found anything in the web app that uses this kind of lookup/access of the sar. So I'd really appreciate some guru to answer this 'trivial' question without having to read the complete guide + sources, examples (which also would take a long time to understand, at least for me :-( ) Thanks. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3942237#3942237 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3942237 --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ JBoss-user mailing list JBoss-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: What exactly is jbpm.sar good for?
hmmm... I looked into this a little since it intriged me and have to take back some of my comments in another thread about this same issue (the jndi name/mbean thing). I did not look into this part of the code since it got restructured from 3.0 to 3.1 and the usage is unclear to me now. As soon as I know a little more, I'll post it in the forum. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3942336#3942336 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3942336 --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ JBoss-user mailing list JBoss-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
