[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: assign a task to a group using assignment expression...
So as i replied here the memberships are not meant to carry names. Please continue the discussion at that location. Regards, Koen View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3923833#3923833 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3923833 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ JBoss-user mailing list JBoss-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: assign a task to a group using assignment expression...
I'm having a problem when assigning a task to a group.. I created a group in the identity component (identity.db.xml), along with the users and memberships anonymous wrote : group name=administrationOD type=administration_generale/ | membership name=administration role=administration user=laurence group=administrationOD/ | membership name=comptabilite role=comptabilite user=violaine group=administrationOD/ here are the users anonymous wrote : user name=violaine email=[EMAIL PROTECTED] password=violaine / | user name=laurence email=[EMAIL PROTECTED] password=laurence / And all these appear in the database.. so no problem until here.. The problem is when i assign a swimlane to a group: anonymous wrote : swimlane name=administration | assignment expression=group(administrationOD) /assignment | /swimlane So in this group, there is supposed to be 2 users : Violaine and Laurence But when i deploy the process definition (.par) , i start a process instance (with the Laurence login), the task only appears to Laurence, and isn't even mentionned in Violaine's tasklist. Maybe someone could clarify this to me: if I assign a swimlane to a group, aren't all the members of the group supposed to see the task instance created (by a member of the same group) ?? I checked the database and the pooledActor table is empty, as well as the taskActorPool table. I just checked the JBPM_delegation table and here is what i found in it: anonymous wrote : CLASSNAME_ org.jbpm.identity.assignment.ExpressionAssignmentHandler | CONFIGURATION_ expressiongroup(administrationOD) /expression Any ideas? Thanks in advance Mennen View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3923555#3923555 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3923555 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ JBoss-user mailing list JBoss-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: assign a task to a group using assignment expression...
Bonjour Mennen, you had more luck than me. I'm still fighting against these assignments with the same problems like you. The data of the table jbpm_id_memberships has all the values ok? Mine (with 3.1B3 and JBoss 403SP1) returns null in the name field. Other posts where we try to solucionate this task are (one of them were initiated by you). http://jboss.org/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopict=76736[/url] and [url]http://jboss.org/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopict=77268. Hope we can find a solution View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3923565#3923565 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3923565 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ JBoss-user mailing list JBoss-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: assign a task to a group using assignment expression...
Thanks for your reply boerse I'm using jbpm 3.0.2, not the beta , with mysql and jboss 4.0.3 I'm still having the problem of membership name still being set to null in the database. I updated my post http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopict=76736 Hope this bug is fixed in the new release.. Mennen View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3923572#3923572 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3923572 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ JBoss-user mailing list JBoss-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: assign a task to a group using assignment expression...
Hi Mennen, i'm now using 3.1B3 (originally 302) because i wanted to try if 3.1 had this problem solved, but it hadn't. :( We're still on it P.S. Are you sure it's a bug? View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3923573#3923573 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3923573 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ JBoss-user mailing list JBoss-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: assign a task to a group using assignment expression...
I assumed it's a bug since i am creating the membership in the identity component like this: anonymous wrote : membership name=tester role=boss user=mennen group=myGroup/ And it seems to me that this is how it should be done (according to the membership.hbm.xml mapping file) Either that or I don't know what i'm missing.. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3923584#3923584 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3923584 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ JBoss-user mailing list JBoss-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: assign a task to a group using assignment expression...
So do i... Anyway i'm going to try 3.1 (final) now... Hope it works, otherwise i'll... :| View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3923591#3923591 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3923591 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ JBoss-user mailing list JBoss-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: assign a task to a group using assignment expression...
hi yd40, thanks for your answer, have you tried inserting that info via src/resources/hsqldb/identity.db.xml? does anybody how this could be done so? i do: and then and in the processdefinition.xml: and it assigns the task to null :( Using 3.0.2 w 4.0.3SP1 (not starter kit, complete versions deployed) and just running the example very lightly modified to see if i do things to work. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3922811#3922811 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3922811 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ JBoss-user mailing list JBoss-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: assign a task to a group using assignment expression...
anonymous wrote : I created in the ProcessDefinition a task with this assignment: | | assignment expression='group(group1) -- member(role1)' | | where in the DB I have the Identity tables with correct data. Hi, how did you do that? I mean, create the groups... where did you define them? View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3922765#3922765 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3922765 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ JBoss-user mailing list JBoss-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: assign a task to a group using assignment expression...
Hi, I just used the API somthing like this: IdentitySessionFactory fact = new IdentitySessionFactory(); IdentitySession identitySession = fact.openIdentitySession() ; identitySession.beginTransaction() ; User john = new User(john); User mosh = new User(mosh); identitySession.saveUser(john); identitySession.saveUser(mosh); Group qaTeam = new Group(qa team, hierarchy); Group marketingTeam = new Group(marketing team, hierarchy); identitySession.saveGroup(marketingTeam); identitySession.saveGroup(qaTeam); Membership.create(john, mgr, qaTeam); Membership.create(mosh, mgr, qaTeam); Membership.create(john, mgr, marketingTeam); identitySession.commitTransaction() ; identitySession.close(); View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3922804#3922804 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3922804 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ JBoss-user mailing list JBoss-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: assign a task to a group using assignment expression...
Issak, I have looked at the issue. You could call it a bug, but there is a reason why this problem appears. To understand it properly, you should have a look for yourself in the implementation of the class org.jbpm.identity.assignment.ExpressionAssignmentHandler. You will see there that the resolveNext method indeed returns the first entity in the set of members it finds. It would be ok to return a set of actorIds if this member expression was the last of the chain, but if this is not the last and there are multiple entities returned, it is impossible to resolve the next part of the expression chain. The implementation will not change shortly. If you would like such a thing to be added, enter a JIRA issue for it. Keep in mind that the syntax would have to change slightly (perhaps introducing a 'members()' function that can only be used as the last part of the expression chain. Alternatively, you could implement a custom assignment handler that provides this kind of behaviour (it is not really that difficult to implement) and we will gladly look at your solution to integrate it if you are willing to contribute. Regards, Koen View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3921811#3921811 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3921811 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ JBoss-user mailing list JBoss-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: assign a task to a group using assignment expression...
Hi Koen, I looked at the ExpressionAssignmentHandler, and I understood the code. In my opinion, if you want some users from a group by a spesific role the actorPooledArray should be set, not the setActorId. There is no reason to set the first actor from the group or the last actor from the group, I need to set all the actors as optionaly actor - i.e setPooledActorArray. I know that I can extend the ExpressionAssignmentHandler, however, I saw that in the JpdlXmlParser.java there is link to the class - hardcoded. If I will extend the ExpressionAssignmentHandler, I will need to change the JpdlXmlParser.java , If I will do that, I will have to change the class in each time that I will use new version of JBPM. There for I decided to wait untill the ExpressionAssignmentHandler will be more mature, I don't mind to share my work till now and contribute to the JBPM. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3921823#3921823 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3921823 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ JBoss-user mailing list JBoss-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: assign a task to a group using assignment expression...
Well there *is* a reason. If you have e.g. this expression : previous -- group(jbpm-users) -- member(expert) -- group(hierachy) -- member(boss) then you will have a problem resolving the fourth and fifth expression if there is more than one expert jbpm-user. Anyway, providing your own AssignmentHandler is not that difficult. The hardcoded relationship in JpdlParser is not important. You simply implement an AssignmentHandler e.g. by inheriting from ExpressionAssignmentHandler and define one 'expression' field in this class. You then should use the 'handler' configuration option in the task (instead of 'expression') and configure the expression string though the field configuration mechanism. Regards, Koen View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3921825#3921825 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3921825 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ JBoss-user mailing list JBoss-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: assign a task to a group using assignment expression...
Ok, so in some cases you need only one actors. I used the assignment by class that extend the AssignmentHandler, However I need to pass a String as the role. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3921829#3921829 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3921829 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ JBoss-user mailing list JBoss-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: assign a task to a group using assignment expression...
anonymous wrote : When a task is assigned to a group, the actorId property should be set, rather than the pooledActorArray. The meaning is that the task is shared by all members of that group, whoever they are. This way new members can quickly get involved with the responsibilities of the group. | | It follows that the findTasksByActorId(actorId) query should retrieve tasks assigned to that actorId plus tasks assigned to each group that actor belongs. In fact, things already work like that: Alex, I see a few problems with this approach--unless I've missed some changes in the last couple months. The first is that if I'm using my own user/group directory (Active Directory for instance), jBPM isn't going to have any idea which user belongs to which group and will only return tasks directly assigned to that group as an 'actorId'. Behavior of such a basic API call should be consistent whether I'm using jBPM's user management system or my own enterprise system. The second issue is a little more subtle, but is the kind of reason my company is passing by Oracle's BPEL solution and using jBPM. Consider that a particular trouble ticket task is associated with a 'Ticket Pool' from which members of the Customer Care group claim tasks. A user named Bill claims a task out of the pool but does not perform the task for some reason, and the ticket must revert back to the pool. If our system supports separate work group assignment, our task contains assignment data related to both the current actor (Bill) and it's governing work group (the Ticket Pool); consequently, simply disassociating Bill from the task allows the system to see this task as being back in the Ticket Pool. If we didn't have both user and group data simultaneously associated with the task, the system wouldn't know to which pool to return the task. We could not determine this simply by referencing to which pool Bill belongs, because Bill may work out of more than one pool. To handle this scenario, we're using 'pooledActors' to hold the pool/group name to which the task belongs. Am I way off base, or does some of this make sense? Thanks, Britt View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3921964#3921964 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3921964 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid3432bid#0486dat1642 ___ JBoss-user mailing list JBoss-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: assign a task to a group using assignment expression...
Hi,
Thank's for the quick response,
I still have to understand something.
let's assume that I have one Group : g1.
In this group I have 4 Users u0 -- u3.
In the memberShip table there is connection between the group and the users:
g1 -- u0-- roleName = role1
g1 -- u1 -- roleName = role1
g1 -- u2 -- roleName = role1
g1 -- u3 -- roleName = role2
I want to put in the pooledActorArray only the users from Group g1 that have
the roleName - role1 (the users u0,u1).
I thought that by doing expression = 'group(g1)--member(role1)'
I will get set of actorId (u0,u1), and that It will set:
setPooledActorArray (new String[] {u1.u2})
By u1,u2 I mean their Id.
The ExpressionAssignmentHandler, just put one user and does:
setActorId(the first user in the group).
It's look like a bug!
I don't want to have many groups, I thought that for Role managment we use the
memberShip table.
I wanted to extend the ExpressionAssignmentHandler, however I saw that
in order to use my extend ExpressionAssignmentHandler I will need to extend
also the JpdlXmlParser.java.
Seems that all this issue hasn't been developed yet.
Am I correct?
Issak
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[JBoss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: assign a task to a group using assignment expression...
We need to clarify the identity model. In my view, groups are related to organizational structures. They are less prone to change than the people enrolled in them. This is why assigning to groups offers more flexibility. When a task is assigned to a group, the actorId property should be set, rather than the pooledActorArray. The meaning is that the task is shared by all members of that group, whoever they are. This way new members can quickly get involved with the responsibilities of the group. It follows that the findTasksByActorId(actorId) query should retrieve tasks assigned to that actorId plus tasks assigned to each group that actor belongs. In fact, things already work like that: Conversely, assignment to specific members of a group should be regarded as personal assignments (i.e. with names of specific individuals) to be shared among players of similar roles in the organization. The question is, what is the right picture of the identity model? View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3921391#3921391 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3921391 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ JBoss-user mailing list JBoss-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
