[JDEV] Marvin 0.0.5 Released!

2001-11-27 Thread Thomas Parslow (PatRat)

Marvin 0.0.5 has just been released!

Marvin is a Jabber client written in the Euphoria programing language
(for more information on Euphoria take a look at
http://www.rapideuphoria.com/). It is fully skinable so that it's look
and feel can be customized (much like Winamp except the skin format is
a lot more flexible).

For more information see:
http://marvin-jabber.sourceforge.net/

Changes for 0.0.5:
* Message History
* XML Debug Window (left alt-keypad minus)
* Gateway setup
* Auto away
* Lots more small additions and bug squishings

Feedback would be much appreciated :)

Thomas Parslow (PatRat) ICQ #:26359483
Rat Software
http://www.rat-software.com/
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[JDEV] Status in ColinJab

2001-11-27 Thread Vipul Shah

We are using ColinJab (VB Jabber client).
If you add someone in your contact then that person can see u'r status but
in your IM his status always will be offline.
If anyone know then tell me what we have to change in client code.

thanks

Shah

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Re: [JDEV] RE: lack of communication

2001-11-27 Thread Thomas Muldowney

On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 07:18:25PM +0100, Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
> hi list,
> 

Heya! 

> 
> a weblog with newsfeeds and jabber integration would be a valuable
> start. you already have some of the infrastructure in place,
> so its rather more an issue of integration than of wheel reinventing.
> 
> i am strongly interested in using weblog technology to facilitate
> collaboration. i work in this field in fact, both by learning
> from the great knowledge management weblogs mailing list at
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/klogs/messages
> 
> and by contributing to a php based weblog system, postnuke
> http://www.postnuke.com
> 
> we are facing some of the same problems within our project:
> 
> - scalability (currently 86 developers and growing rapidly)
> - scope (we have about 5 major project related websites)
> - user-developer gap (bug reports linger in a msg board etc)
> 
> at one time, we had more traffic on our mailing list than
> linux-kernel, which told us that we have a slight problem ;)
> this has led to initiatives to develop solutions along the
> lines you mention, temas.
> 
> on the roadmap for our cms / weblog is xmlrpc integration.
> this enables very cool stuff like the jabber-weblog integration
> you did with jogger. i would be very interested to search
> for common solutions / implementations.
> 
> granted i have a bias towards using our stuff with your stuff,
> but on the other hand i believe this is a major win-win.
> and, more importantly, any cooperation should be based on
> open interfaces so that other apps (cms etc) can plug in.
> 
> hope this helps, and i look forward to your comments.
> 
> gregor j. rothfuss
> 
> project admin
> PostNuke Content Management System 
> 
> -- 
> Gregor J. Rothfuss | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://greg.abstrakt.ch 
> 

I definately agree about finding any common ground possible with other
projects.  Our new website system is actually highly based on web
services utilizing xmlrpc, soap, and of course Jabber.  We'll open up as
many of the interfaces as possible, as well as attempt to expose common
APIs that currently exist.

--temas




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[JDEV] RE: lack of communication

2001-11-27 Thread Gregor J. Rothfuss

hi list,

> We lack 
> a solid commuication link between users and developers. Now 
> where are those recorded?  Well my personal notes, but that 
> only helps me.  Yes, we have this mailing list, but 
> personally I really really really dislike mailing lists =)  

as a lurker on jabber activities, i can attest to that.
its hard for me to keep track of all the different initiatives
that are going on in the jabber world. plus, mailing lists
dont scale, posts are quickly forgotten once they leave your inbox,
etc.

> Plus, it doesn't bridge in some of the conversations that are 
> starting to pick up on msg boards on the website, as well as 
> lacking an easy interface (damn me for not keeping the NNTP 
> interface up).  So do I have a proposed solution?  Why yes, 
> yes I do!  It's an old idea that we like to call JabberForge 
> (yes, it is ripped from SourceForge).  The idea is an 
> integration of all the tools developers need, plus an 
> interface to allow users to come and interact with the 
> project.  To take it a step further the whole system would 
> highly integrate with Jabber (duh!).  

a weblog with newsfeeds and jabber integration would be a valuable
start. you already have some of the infrastructure in place,
so its rather more an issue of integration than of wheel reinventing.

i am strongly interested in using weblog technology to facilitate
collaboration. i work in this field in fact, both by learning
from the great knowledge management weblogs mailing list at

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/klogs/messages

and by contributing to a php based weblog system, postnuke
http://www.postnuke.com

we are facing some of the same problems within our project:

- scalability (currently 86 developers and growing rapidly)
- scope (we have about 5 major project related websites)
- user-developer gap (bug reports linger in a msg board etc)

at one time, we had more traffic on our mailing list than
linux-kernel, which told us that we have a slight problem ;)
this has led to initiatives to develop solutions along the
lines you mention, temas.

on the roadmap for our cms / weblog is xmlrpc integration.
this enables very cool stuff like the jabber-weblog integration
you did with jogger. i would be very interested to search
for common solutions / implementations.

granted i have a bias towards using our stuff with your stuff,
but on the other hand i believe this is a major win-win.
and, more importantly, any cooperation should be based on
open interfaces so that other apps (cms etc) can plug in.

hope this helps, and i look forward to your comments.

gregor j. rothfuss

project admin
PostNuke Content Management System 

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[JDEV] RE:JabberForge

2001-11-27 Thread Wayne Sheppard

That's a fantastic idea!! A single place to get visibility into what's
happening and an easy place to get items of interest, that's great.

Cheers,

Wayne Sheppard


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Re: [JDEV] Lack of Communication

2001-11-27 Thread David Sutton

Hello,

  I personally think this is a great idea, and an almost vital part of
moving things forwards. Its bad enough as it is coming up with ideas and
then having to hunt over the web to find out if someone else is already
doing it. Of course, this is dependant on people keeping the data up to
date and using it, but I would definatly use it and urge anyone else to
do the same. I await the docs eagerly :)

David
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On Tue, 2001-11-27 at 16:55, Thomas Muldowney wrote:
> Hey all, I've been busy working on some of my ideas, but I've suddenly
> realized one of the major problems we have.  We lack a solid
> commuication link between users and developers.  Just based on my posts
> to the list and my jog I've gotten a few emails and msgs discussing some
> ideas, and that's absolutely wonderful, because it really was partially
> the goal.  Now where are those recorded?  Well my personal notes, but
> that only helps me.  Yes, we have this mailing list, but personally I
> really really really dislike mailing lists =)  Plus, it doesn't bridge
> in some of the conversations that are starting to pick up on msg boards
> on the website, as well as lacking an easy interface (damn me for not
> keeping the NNTP interface up).  So do I have a proposed solution?  Why
> yes, yes I do!  It's an old idea that we like to call JabberForge (yes,
> it is ripped from SourceForge).  The idea is an integration of all the
> tools developers need, plus an interface to allow users to come and
> interact with the project.  To take it a step further the whole system
> would highly integrate with Jabber (duh!).  I'm working on a doc
> outlining the system now, and construction will begin soon, so I'm
> looking for input and ideas for the system asap.  Just post any thoughts
> as a reply here and I'll get them on the list for eventual inclusion.
> 
> --temas
> 
> 



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[JDEV] Lack of Communication

2001-11-27 Thread Thomas Muldowney

Hey all, I've been busy working on some of my ideas, but I've suddenly
realized one of the major problems we have.  We lack a solid
commuication link between users and developers.  Just based on my posts
to the list and my jog I've gotten a few emails and msgs discussing some
ideas, and that's absolutely wonderful, because it really was partially
the goal.  Now where are those recorded?  Well my personal notes, but
that only helps me.  Yes, we have this mailing list, but personally I
really really really dislike mailing lists =)  Plus, it doesn't bridge
in some of the conversations that are starting to pick up on msg boards
on the website, as well as lacking an easy interface (damn me for not
keeping the NNTP interface up).  So do I have a proposed solution?  Why
yes, yes I do!  It's an old idea that we like to call JabberForge (yes,
it is ripped from SourceForge).  The idea is an integration of all the
tools developers need, plus an interface to allow users to come and
interact with the project.  To take it a step further the whole system
would highly integrate with Jabber (duh!).  I'm working on a doc
outlining the system now, and construction will begin soon, so I'm
looking for input and ideas for the system asap.  Just post any thoughts
as a reply here and I'll get them on the list for eventual inclusion.

--temas





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