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2010-02-01 Thread Norwid-Rasmus Behrnd
   Hello, 

 I became interested in the more advanced export features provided by jmol, 
allowing a generation of interactive 3D pdf data.  As the present wiki pages of 
jmol describe, this could be achieved by

1) export of the present scenery as an IDTF file, then  

2) a conversion the IDTF converter in the *.U3D format that finally may be 
embedded, for example, with  movie15.sty package in LaTeX.

By doing so, I experienced some odd things concerning the molecular structure 
being displayed.  
Some of the atoms are represented as sticks ; some atom/atom groups are 
represented as spheres, but partially lack connection with the main molecule.

So far, I was not aware if the representation (stick-only vs. ball-stick-model) 
may be altered for single  atoms/groups of atoms ; but am even more concerned 
by the fact of atoms becoming isolated. 

For this test I used the following enviroment/software:

 -- Windows XP, service pack 3
 -- java verision 1.6.0_07
 -- jmol as provided in the repository jmol-11.9.23-binary
 -- pdfLaTeX with movie15 package 
 -- IDTF Converter.exe for Windows, as pointed by the wiki page pf
jmol

and it would be possible to share some of the data (initial *.cif file used, 
generated outputs by jmol/IDTF converter, the pdf-embedded u3d-data).  Indeed, 
I would be interested to know to whom of the developers I eventually could send 
these files.

  With regards,

Norwid Behrnd
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Re: [Jmol-users] Fwd: Returned mail: see transcript for details

2010-02-01 Thread Angel Herráez
Hello, Norwid 

We have had little experience with production of PDF files, so your 
experience will be very helpful.

The output should display atoms and bonds as they are rendered in 
Jmol when you invoke the export. It is certainly possible to have 
some atoms as ball & stick, others as stick-only, etc, but only if 
you decide so.

I will gladly have a look at your files to see if I can give some 
help.
I am however not sure if I am able to visualize idtf files, and 
certainly I have no experience in generating pdf files.

It is important that you specify if you have done any manipulations 
of the model in Jmol before doing the export )or you just left the 
default ball&stick). If so, please save a state script to file and 
attach it together with the CIF file.

Have you had problems with other model files?

Finally, any instructions about how you have used the conversion 
software (pdfLaTeX, movie15, IDTF Converter) will be useful by other 
users. You are welcome to add some info in the Wiki.





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[Jmol-users] How can i show the total molecule tegether in JMOL? Thanks.

2010-02-01 Thread houyang chen
Hello, everyone,

I got a result of molecules coordinates from simulation.
When i shown it by JMOL, i found part of molecule is in the left side of x
axis in the box; and the other part
is in the right side of x axis in the box.
This is cause by the period bound condition in the simulation.
How can i show the total molecule tegether in JMOL?

Thanks.

Houyang
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Re: [Jmol-users] How can i show the total molecule tegether in JMOL? Thanks.

2010-02-01 Thread Robert Hanson
What sort of file is it?

You need to load the file with symmetry and unit cell and load more than one
unit cell. Something like:

 load "caffeine.xyz" {1 1 1} spacegroup "P1" unitcell "10.0 10.0 10.0 90 90
90"

However this does not work with all file types. But that can be fixed...

Bob


On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 2:45 PM, houyang chen  wrote:

> Hello, everyone,
>
> I got a result of molecules coordinates from simulation.
> When i shown it by JMOL, i found part of molecule is in the left side of x
> axis in the box; and the other part
> is in the right side of x axis in the box.
> This is cause by the period bound condition in the simulation.
> How can i show the total molecule tegether in JMOL?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Houyang
>
>
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