[j-nsp] dot1q CCC/MPLS on EX4200 series switches

2011-07-17 Thread Matthew S. Crocker

Hello,

 I have a customer handing me a GigE with dot1q tags to my EX4200 switch.  I 
need to carry the GigE/dot1q over a couple other EX4200s and terminate on a 
GigE port of my MX80.   I've read through the docs for building MPLS/ccc 
circuits between the two devices. It isn't clear to me if I need to establish a 
ccc for each vlan (i.e. I will need to know the VLANs the customer is sending 
me).  Or, can I create one CCC that will catch all tags and transport them 
across my MPLS and dump them out the MX80.   I would prefer not having to know 
the VLANs my customer is sending me.
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Re: [j-nsp] dot1q CCC/MPLS on EX4200 series switches

2011-07-17 Thread Alexander Frolkin
Hi,

 I have a customer handing me a GigE with dot1q tags to my EX4200 switch.
 I need to carry the GigE/dot1q over a couple other EX4200s and terminate on
 a GigE port of my MX80.

I did something similar on an SRX:

-
user@router show configuration interfaces fe-0/0/6  
mtu 1800;
encapsulation ethernet-ccc;
unit 0;
-

This a pseudowire carrying a dot1q trunk.

I suspect the config on an EX will be the same, but as I've said, I've
only tried on SRX.


Alex

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Re: [j-nsp] dot1q CCC/MPLS on EX4200 series switches

2011-07-17 Thread Doug Hanks
It's probably easier to use QinQ.

Doug

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Subject: [j-nsp] dot1q CCC/MPLS on EX4200 series switches


Hello,

 I have a customer handing me a GigE with dot1q tags to my EX4200 switch.  I 
need to carry the GigE/dot1q over a couple other EX4200s and terminate on a 
GigE port of my MX80.   I've read through the docs for building MPLS/ccc 
circuits between the two devices. It isn't clear to me if I need to establish a 
ccc for each vlan (i.e. I will need to know the VLANs the customer is sending 
me).  Or, can I create one CCC that will catch all tags and transport them 
across my MPLS and dump them out the MX80.   I would prefer not having to know 
the VLANs my customer is sending me.
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Re: [j-nsp] dot1q CCC/MPLS on EX4200 series switches

2011-07-17 Thread Matthew S. Crocker

Can the MX80 handle QinQ?

Can I run QinQ for this customer and MPLS in my 10GigE core?  I don't think the 
EX 4200 can do that.

If I wanted to stay MPLS would I need to configure each vlan on the customer 
interface and map it to a unqiue CCC to the other end (EX4200-MX80  
MX80-EX4200)?


- Original Message -
 From: Doug Hanks dha...@juniper.net
 To: Matthew S. Crocker matt...@crocker.com, juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 2:42:17 PM
 Subject: RE: [j-nsp] dot1q CCC/MPLS on EX4200 series switches
 
 It's probably easier to use QinQ.
 
 Doug
 
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 [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Matthew S.
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 Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 7:08 AM
 To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: [j-nsp] dot1q CCC/MPLS on EX4200 series switches
 
 
 Hello,
 
  I have a customer handing me a GigE with dot1q tags to my EX4200
  switch.  I need to carry the GigE/dot1q over a couple other EX4200s
  and terminate on a GigE port of my MX80.   I've read through the
  docs for building MPLS/ccc circuits between the two devices. It
  isn't clear to me if I need to establish a ccc for each vlan (i.e.
  I will need to know the VLANs the customer is sending me).  Or, can
  I create one CCC that will catch all tags and transport them across
  my MPLS and dump them out the MX80.   I would prefer not having to
  know the VLANs my customer is sending me.
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Re: [j-nsp] dot1q CCC/MPLS on EX4200 series switches

2011-07-17 Thread David Ball
  We've used EX4200s as 10Gig customer demarc in a few situations and
do just that.  Q-in-Q on the EX4200 customer port so you don't care
what VLANs the cust is sending, trunk port out to your MX80, and use
'input-vlan-map pop' with something like 'encapsulation vlan-ccc' on
the MX80 to remove the outer tag.  Not sure what you're planning to do
on the MX80, but we dump ours into customer-specific L2VPNs.  I don't
have EX4200 configs handy, but your MX80 interface side might
resemble:

[edit interfaces xe-y/y/y]
snip MTU, autoneg, etc stuff
flexible-vlan-tagging;
encapsulation flexible-ethernet-services;
unit QinQtag {   # Unit number is arbitrary, but keep it simple
and match the VLAN ID if you can.
  vlan-id QinQtag;
  encapsulation vlan-ccc;
  input-vlan-map pop;
  output-vlan-map push;
}

HTH,

David


On 17 July 2011 13:02, Matthew S. Crocker matt...@corp.crocker.com wrote:

 Can the MX80 handle QinQ?

 Can I run QinQ for this customer and MPLS in my 10GigE core?  I don't think 
 the EX 4200 can do that.

 If I wanted to stay MPLS would I need to configure each vlan on the customer 
 interface and map it to a unqiue CCC to the other end (EX4200-MX80  
 MX80-EX4200)?


 - Original Message -
 From: Doug Hanks dha...@juniper.net
 To: Matthew S. Crocker matt...@crocker.com, juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 2:42:17 PM
 Subject: RE: [j-nsp] dot1q CCC/MPLS on EX4200 series switches

 It's probably easier to use QinQ.

 Doug

 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Matthew S.
 Crocker
 Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 7:08 AM
 To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: [j-nsp] dot1q CCC/MPLS on EX4200 series switches


 Hello,

  I have a customer handing me a GigE with dot1q tags to my EX4200
  switch.  I need to carry the GigE/dot1q over a couple other EX4200s
  and terminate on a GigE port of my MX80.   I've read through the
  docs for building MPLS/ccc circuits between the two devices. It
  isn't clear to me if I need to establish a ccc for each vlan (i.e.
  I will need to know the VLANs the customer is sending me).  Or, can
  I create one CCC that will catch all tags and transport them across
  my MPLS and dump them out the MX80.   I would prefer not having to
  know the VLANs my customer is sending me.
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Re: [j-nsp] dot1q CCC/MPLS on EX4200 series switches

2011-07-17 Thread Doug Hanks
The MX probably has the best support for QinQ I've seen.

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From: Matthew S. Crocker [mailto:matt...@corp.crocker.com] 
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 12:02 PM
To: Doug Hanks
Cc: Matthew S. Crocker; juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] dot1q CCC/MPLS on EX4200 series switches


Can the MX80 handle QinQ?

Can I run QinQ for this customer and MPLS in my 10GigE core?  I don't think the 
EX 4200 can do that.

If I wanted to stay MPLS would I need to configure each vlan on the customer 
interface and map it to a unqiue CCC to the other end (EX4200-MX80  
MX80-EX4200)?


- Original Message -
 From: Doug Hanks dha...@juniper.net
 To: Matthew S. Crocker matt...@crocker.com, juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 2:42:17 PM
 Subject: RE: [j-nsp] dot1q CCC/MPLS on EX4200 series switches
 
 It's probably easier to use QinQ.
 
 Doug
 
 -Original Message-
 From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
 [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Matthew S.
 Crocker
 Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 7:08 AM
 To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: [j-nsp] dot1q CCC/MPLS on EX4200 series switches
 
 
 Hello,
 
  I have a customer handing me a GigE with dot1q tags to my EX4200
  switch.  I need to carry the GigE/dot1q over a couple other EX4200s
  and terminate on a GigE port of my MX80.   I've read through the
  docs for building MPLS/ccc circuits between the two devices. It
  isn't clear to me if I need to establish a ccc for each vlan (i.e.
  I will need to know the VLANs the customer is sending me).  Or, can
  I create one CCC that will catch all tags and transport them across
  my MPLS and dump them out the MX80.   I would prefer not having to
  know the VLANs my customer is sending me.
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Re: [j-nsp] dot1q CCC/MPLS on EX4200 series switches

2011-07-17 Thread Keegan Holley
You can create a ccc based on port and just everything that comes in the
port to the other end regardless of vlan or encapsulation.  There is also no
mac learning to worry about.  This in my experience is easier to manage than
q-in-q which requires mac learning and spanning-tree.  The down side is that
each port requires a dedicated LSP, so 48 ports would create 48 new LSP's
between the two devices.  I'm not sure what the LSP limitations are but I
would assume it's pretty high.

2011/7/17 Matthew S. Crocker matt...@crocker.com


 Hello,

  I have a customer handing me a GigE with dot1q tags to my EX4200 switch.
  I need to carry the GigE/dot1q over a couple other EX4200s and terminate on
 a GigE port of my MX80.   I've read through the docs for building MPLS/ccc
 circuits between the two devices. It isn't clear to me if I need to
 establish a ccc for each vlan (i.e. I will need to know the VLANs the
 customer is sending me).  Or, can I create one CCC that will catch all tags
 and transport them across my MPLS and dump them out the MX80.   I would
 prefer not having to know the VLANs my customer is sending me.
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