Re: [lace] Miss Channer receives a Proposal
David in Ballarat wrote: I've tried that and it didn't work for me. I did try that method where I threaded a hundred or so onto one long piece of electric wire, but they didn't come off easily enough. -- An option I find useful with spangled bobbins is a short (maybe 6"/15cm) cord with a loop on one end. Lia gave us these in a class--it was made from chain stitch, with the last stitch going into a chain several back from the hook. Thread the cord through one spangle and pull the end through the loop. This anchors the cord to one bobbin. Then you can gather neighboring bobbins by threading the cord through their spangles. The cords are short enough to make manageable units. You can grab a unit by the free end and move it anywhere, stack it on top of other units, etc. A pin through the free end is all it takes to secure things, so they pile up better than hard holders. Robin Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA robinl...@socal.rr.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] What does "Slince" mean?
Could be invented, or lace specific. As Adele did, I googled. I searched 'Sukane Slince' which is the title of one of the laces in the Cook/Tratnik book of Idrija Lace. I went to a page offering lace instruction in Slovenia, and tried the google translation, but am none the wiser, except that because the word slince and variations of sukane and other words are in the list of what seems to be techniques offered, my guess is that it is a lace word outside the lexicon of what the computer can translate :) On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 4:16 PM, A. González wrote: > Hi all. > > I have a terminology question, which I hope you can help me solving. I use > to participate in an Italian lace group, where we have just been taught to > make a braid with a kind of spiders in it, which they call "salive". It > happens to be exactly the same thing I have seen in Bridget Cook's book > "Idrija > Lace". And here Bridget Cook calls it "slince" (page 65). I can't find this > word in the dictionary nor googling. The word seems to be nonexistent. Does > anybody know if it means something, or if it is just an invented word? > > Just for curiosity. I am looking forward to reading your opinions. > > Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] What does "Slince" mean?
Adele Shaak wrote: = I googled "slince Idrija" and got a lot of responses in a foreign language I don't recognize, but here is a sample: "Na razstavi predstavljene idrijske čipke in izdelki iz čipk so delo članic ... tulipane, pajke, satovje, slince, kantu rožice, rožice z listi, figure ..." Now, picking through that sentence, I think it is about lace (čipke?) and it seems to list either motifs or types of lace or techniques. I am intrigued by the two words, "satovje" and "slince" because I would think that "satovje" sounds like Antje's Italian "salive" but since there are two different words probably satovje and slince are not considered to be the same thing. Will look forward to finding out what someone who knows what the language is has to say. Adele North Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) Well depending how you got that text, you may not have seen the English translation "Therefore, laceworks include wide and narrow lines, twisted lines, half-turn, small plaits, flowers of plaits and fish, holes, brain, tulips, spiders, honeycomb, kantu flowers, flowers, flowers with leafs, figures, etc." If we take tulips and tulipane as equal, then the Slovenian list has 7 entries and the English list has 7 entries from tulips to the end of the sentence. However, the Slovenian list has only 3 entries after "slince" and those 3 entries begin with "kantu rozice". The English list has 4 entries to the end beginning with "kantu flowers". >From the OIDFA Point Ground study which includes Slovenian lace, the word for honeycomb is "mre za", which does not appear in the Slovenian list. But it is not "slince, since we know that "slince" is a tape containing spiders. I think "slince" was not translated at all, which would make "pajke" = spiders and "satovje" = honeycomb. Patty, supposing.. Antje Gonzalez wrote: === > I have a terminology question, which I hope you can help me solving. I > use > to participate in an Italian lace group, where we have just been > taught to > make a braid with a kind of spiders in it, which they call "salive". It > happens to be exactly the same thing I have seen in Bridget Cook's > book "Idrija > Lace". And here Bridget Cook calls it "slince" (page 65). I can't find > this > word in the dictionary nor googling. The word seems to be nonexistent. > Does > anybody know if it means something, or if it is just an invented word? - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] What does "Slince" mean?
Hi: I googled "slince Idrija" and got a lot of responses in a foreign language I don't recognize, but here is a sample: "Na razstavi predstavljene idrijske čipke in izdelki iz čipk so delo članic ... tulipane, pajke, satovje, slince, kantu rožice, rožice z listi, figure ..." Now, picking through that sentence, I think it is about lace (čipke?) and it seems to list either motifs or types of lace or techniques. I am intrigued by the two words, "satovje" and "slince" because I would think that "satovje" sounds like Antje's Italian "salive" but since there are two different words probably satovje and slince are not considered to be the same thing. Will look forward to finding out what someone who knows what the language is has to say. Adele North Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) On Sunday, March 8, 2009, at 03:16 PM, A. González wrote: I have a terminology question, which I hope you can help me solving. I use to participate in an Italian lace group, where we have just been taught to make a braid with a kind of spiders in it, which they call "salive". It happens to be exactly the same thing I have seen in Bridget Cook's book "Idrija Lace". And here Bridget Cook calls it "slince" (page 65). I can't find this word in the dictionary nor googling. The word seems to be nonexistent. Does anybody know if it means something, or if it is just an invented word? - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] What does "Slince" mean?
Hi all. I have a terminology question, which I hope you can help me solving. I use to participate in an Italian lace group, where we have just been taught to make a braid with a kind of spiders in it, which they call "salive". It happens to be exactly the same thing I have seen in Bridget Cook's book "Idrija Lace". And here Bridget Cook calls it "slince" (page 65). I can't find this word in the dictionary nor googling. The word seems to be nonexistent. Does anybody know if it means something, or if it is just an invented word? Just for curiosity. I am looking forward to reading your opinions. Greetings from Antje - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace]Laceday
Hello Everyone. I would like to let you all know about my laceday on the 18th April 2009. Its the Jubilee lacegroup Laceday at the Hewett school Cecil Road Norwich Norfolk.. Its from 10am to 4pm. Tickets are £5 from me. Snacks available all day, but please bring a packed lunch. There will be suppliers and a speaker. Plenty of parking. The school is disabled friendly with signing for the deaf available. So if any of you would like to come and join us. You will be made very welcome. Daphne Martin Norfolk Uk _ View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place Learn more! - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Miss Channer receives a Proposal
On 8 Mar 2009, at 16:04, Clay Blackwell wrote: My favorite system (which I have not come even *close* to mastering...) is when those huge 12" pins are used to scoop up 6 - 8 bobbins at a time and stack them vertically in front of another set... That's what gave me the idea of using hat pins with spangled bobbins. I was making a Beds pattern with 350 bobbins. I tried Clay's favourite system but it didn't seem to work with the spangles. So I tried using hat pins and loved it - and I can fit 8 - 12 pairs on a pin. Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada Visit the Seaspray Guild of Lacemakers web site: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/quinbot - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Miss Channer receives.../ideas for stacking bobbins
This is a good idea for a given amount of "a lot of bobbins". The pattern I was working on with 140 continental pairs, I shifted groups out of the way in layers, first placed a group on a stick (the stick with an elastic threaded end to end), then the stick on a work cloth, and stacked them accordingly. They can be stacked stick on stick too, but that becomes clumsy with several layers. Same with the 'pages' idea, or even with my work cloths, the stacking becomes bulky for the larger numbers of bobbins. Try it and see. It could work for you. I watched a lacemaker working with hundreds of Midlands pairs, a big Beds. piece on a large cookie pillow, and she was able to pick up groups of bobbins, twist the bundle once so that the leader threads were all together, and left them back of the pillow. There was this group of groups, literally, lying a'back of the pillow; each loose bundle was then brought into use as needed with a quick untwist to allow the leader threads to separate, and only a bit of sorting to get them where they were supposed to be. Mastery of the bobbins! On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Cher wrote: > For working with so many bobbins in one pattern I was just thinking if > any of you have used a cloth book, for holding your many bobbins. The > bigger > the cloth book the more it holds. I been thinking about putting a bottom to > each page, so all I have to do is lay them in(in order) close the page and > do the same for each page, stacking each cloth book onto each other. Seems > to me that this would work, what do you think? > Cher in Papillion > > - -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Miss Channer receives a Proposal
I've been told that one of the things that separates *really* good lacemakers from *merely* good lacemakers is their ability to manage huge numbers of bobbins. And to a small extent, this can't be learned from a book or from a set of rules... every piece which requires hundreds of bobbins has its own requirements for approaching the pattern, and it is the willingness and the wits of the lacemaker to work out their system which makes the difference. I've enjoyed seeing what people have written about over the years... Not everyone works with spangled bobbins. I have to say, those spangles come in handy for keeping the bobbins in order, but I rarely use this kind of bobbin. Continental bobbins present their own set of "challenges". My favorite system (which I have not come even *close* to mastering...) is when those huge 12" pins are used to scoop up 6 - 8 bobbins at a time and stack them vertically in front of another set... Just an amazing sight to see... Clay David in Ballarat wrote: Dear Margot, I've tried that and it didn't work for me. What I've made are like giant safety pins - 2 from each plastic coated coat hanger cut in half. Each of these will hold about 32 bobbins, but we are talking close to 400 bobbins here. I did try that method where I threaded a hundred or so onto one long piece of electric wire, but they didn't come off easily enough. It'll get easier once I start to throw some out permanently. Thanks though David Here's a hint to help manage the bobbins. Instead of using knitting stitch holders, I use extra long hat pins. It's very easy to slide one through the spangles, then raise the hat pin to a vertical position, and stick in the pillow. You can 'store' many more bobbins in less space and it's easy to move the hat pins around. I'm using some antique hat pins - one of my many excuses for haunting flea markets - and many that I've made myself using very fine, sharply pointed knitting needles with beads glued on one end. They're pretty too! Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada Visit the Seaspray Guild of Lacemakers web site: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/quinbot - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Miss Channer receives a Proposal
For working with so many bobbins in one pattern I was just thinking if any of you have used a cloth book, for holding your many bobbins. The bigger the cloth book the more it holds. I been thinking about putting a bottom to each page, so all I have to do is lay them in(in order) close the page and do the same for each page, stacking each cloth book onto each other. Seems to me that this would work, what do you think? Cher in Papillion -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of David in Ballarat Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 11:40 AM To: Margot Walker; ARACHNE Subject: Re: [lace] Miss Channer receives a Proposal >Dear Margot, I've tried that and it didn't work for me. What I've made are like giant safety pins - 2 from each plastic coated coat hanger cut in half. Each of these will hold about 32 bobbins, but we are talking close to 400 bobbins here. I did try that method where I threaded a hundred or so onto one long piece of electric wire, but they didn't come off easily enough. It'll get easier once I start to throw some out permanently. Thanks though David - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Miss Channer receives a Proposal
Dear Margot, I've tried that and it didn't work for me. What I've made are like giant safety pins - 2 from each plastic coated coat hanger cut in half. Each of these will hold about 32 bobbins, but we are talking close to 400 bobbins here. I did try that method where I threaded a hundred or so onto one long piece of electric wire, but they didn't come off easily enough. It'll get easier once I start to throw some out permanently. Thanks though David Here's a hint to help manage the bobbins. Instead of using knitting stitch holders, I use extra long hat pins. It's very easy to slide one through the spangles, then raise the hat pin to a vertical position, and stick in the pillow. You can 'store' many more bobbins in less space and it's easy to move the hat pins around. I'm using some antique hat pins - one of my many excuses for haunting flea markets - and many that I've made myself using very fine, sharply pointed knitting needles with beads glued on one end. They're pretty too! Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada Visit the Seaspray Guild of Lacemakers web site: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/quinbot - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] More on Concrete lace
More on the topic of the concrete lace or maybe I missed it!! http://www.derby.ac.uk/textiles/news/contemporary-arts-building Diana in Northants - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] de Havilland Threads
I've used these for some years. To give some body to the lace I use a firmer thread for the weavers- Guttermann,DMC etc. If you are running out of thread, send a metre to De Havilland, if a varigated one, and this will be dyed to match. A lovely lady who will do lace days and we met them orginally at Knitting and Stitches. By the way, she's an Australian living in London. Not a commerical plug, just a satisfied customer. Sheila in a lovely sunny Sawbridgeworth getting ready to go to Essex Lacemakers Suppliers Fair. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
