[lace] Another "lace bobbin" on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
Another "I don't know what it is so I'll call it a lace bobbin" on Ebay. Bone, turned, around three and a half inches long with a hollow centre. Any ideas? My first though was to wind yardage as it's worked, but that would be straight across the middle and not dip in. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-or-Antique-Turned-Lace-Bobbin-/400656136511 ?pt=UK_Crafts_Lace_Making_ET&hash=item5d48f7793f tinied: http://tinyurl.com/nntydkv Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] Another "lace bobbin" on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
It says it has a hollow centre, so one must be able to open it: a needle case? Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK Another "I don't know what it is so I'll call it a lace bobbin" on Ebay. Bone, turned, around three and a half inches long with a hollow centre. Any ideas? My first though was to wind yardage as it's worked, but that would be straight across the middle and not dip in. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Another "lace bobbin" on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
Looks (and sounds) more like a needle case to me. Karen (currently in London) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Another "lace bobbin" on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
If you want a non needlework tool suggestion, then a "Knife Rest" might fit the bill. (Keep it off the table cloth!)\\\Oh well. Brian -Original Message- From: Agnes Boddington Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 12:11 AM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: RE: [lace] Another "lace bobbin" on Ebay - any ideas on what it is? It says it has a hollow centre, so one must be able to open it: a needle case? Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK Another "I don't know what it is so I'll call it a lace bobbin" on Ebay. Bone, turned, around three and a half inches long with a hollow centre. Any ideas? My first though was to wind yardage as it's worked, but that would be straight across the middle and not dip in. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Another "lace bobbin" on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
In my opinion it isn't a bobbin. I saw once a similar thing which was a needle case. Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Another "lace bobbin" on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
Hi Jean and fellow Arachnids, The listing does not say 'lace bobbin' but just bobbin. that could mean for winding thread or even fishing lime on. The 'hollow centre; could mean the waisted area, one never knows what people who are not in the know will call things. It does not look as if it has an entry to the 'bobbin'. Also, from the one photo I think it is probably ivory rather than bone (it does not show the little black marks where the nerves etc. pass through the bone and does show some faint striations -as would be visible on ivory- on the lower part). I certainly would not bid on this without finding out more and getting further photographs from the vendor. Happy lace making, Joepie, in chilly and grey looking Sussex, UK From: Jean Nathan Subject: [lace] Another "lace bobbin" on Ebay - any ideas on what it is? Another "I don't know what it is so I'll call it a lace bobbin" on Ebay. Bone, turned, around three and a half inches long with a hollow centre. Any ideas? My first though was to wind yardage as it's worked, but that would be straight across the middle and not dip in. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-or-Antique-Turned-Lace-Bobbin-/400656136511 ?pt=UK_Crafts_Lace_Making_ET&hash=item5d48f7793f tinied: http://tinyurl.com/nntydkv Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK - - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Another "lace bobbin" on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
I saw the threaded ends and was wondering if the 'caps' were missingthus it would be some sort of needlecase or thimble holder. Just a guess. Karen Bovard The ShuttleSmith Omaha, Nebraska http://www.theshuttlesmith.com/ Blog: http://theshuttlesmith.blogspot.com/ On Friday, January 31, 2014 7:56 AM, J D Hammett wrote: Hi Jean and fellow Arachnids, The listing does not say 'lace bobbin' but just bobbin. that could mean for winding thread or even fishing lime on. The 'hollow centre; could mean the waisted area, one never knows what people who are not in the know will call things. It does not look as if it has an entry to the 'bobbin'. Also, from the one photo I think it is probably ivory rather than bone (it does not show the little black marks where the nerves etc. pass through the bone and does show some faint striations -as would be visible on ivory- on the lower part). I certainly would not bid on this without finding out more and getting further photographs from the vendor. Happy lace making, Joepie, in chilly and grey looking Sussex, UK From: Jean Nathan Subject: [lace] Another "lace bobbin" on Ebay - any ideas on what it is? Another "I don't know what it is so I'll call it a lace bobbin" on Ebay. Bone, turned, around three and a half inches long with a hollow centre. Any ideas? My first though was to wind yardage as it's worked, but that would be straight across the middle and not dip in. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-or-Antique-Turned-Lace-Bobbin-/400656136511 ?pt=UK_Crafts_Lace_Making_ET&hash=item5d48f7793f tinied: http://tinyurl.com/nntydkv Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK - - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] oh no
On 31/01/2014 02:04, laceviolins...@comcast.net wrote: >> a demonstration on do a short row heel that involved safety heels and another one that used bobby pins<< The second one sounds like Japanese short rows. My favourite demonstrator is Verypink http://verypink.com/2013/12/31/japanese-short-rows/ she uses clippie markers instead of bobby pins, but it's the same effect. I remember seeing other heel techniques on her site too so maybe she also does safety heels (tho I don't know what those are) hth Lesley in very wet and miserable Marple UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] Another "lace bobbin" on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
I have a similar piece that is used just to wind finished straight lace on behind the pillow??? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-or-Antique-Turned-Lace-Bobbin-/40065613651 1 ?pt=UK_Crafts_Lace_Making_ET&hash=item5d48f7793f tinied: http://tinyurl.com/nntydkv Susie Morris, IL. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Another "lace bobbin" on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
I think it's a bead. One of those long beads from when they used to cover doors with beaded curtains (very popular in the 60s) The thin raised bands don't seem to spiral - they seem to be separate decorative elements. It could be turned animal bone but it could also be bakelite/celluloid/plastic. Adele West Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) On 2014-01-30, at 11:56 PM, Jean Nathan wrote: > Another "I don't know what it is so I'll call it a lace bobbin" on Ebay. Bone, > turned, around three and a half inches long with a hollow centre. Any ideas? - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] oh no
Hi Becca and other Arachnids, Please can you tell us "foreigners" what 1.safety heels 2. bobby pins are. :-) Thank you very much. Happy lace making. Joepie, in East Sussex where it is raining yet again (we have to grow webbed feet and gills I think ;-D) -Original Message- From: laceviolins...@comcast.net Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 2:04 AM To: lace Subject: [lace] oh no I remember a few weeks ago watching a demonstration on do a short row heel that involved safety heels and another one that used bobby pins.argh I can't find where I put it. Can anyone help me? please? It looked very easy and there did not seem to be holes and no awful wraps. Thank you if you can Becca in snowy Utah - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Another "lace bobbin" on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
I keep forgetting "reply all" It's definitely a knife rest. I remember them from my childhood--those and food pushers. Cynthia On Jan 31, 2014, at 11:09 AM, Adele Shaak wrote: > I think it's a bead. One of those long beads from when they used to cover doors with beaded curtains (very popular in the 60s) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Another "lace bobbin" on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
The title does say "lace bobbin". The word lace is missing from the description. I thought needle case, but with no ends, needles would fall out. It's not clear if the grooves each end are a screw threads to take a screw on cap or just rings. Rollers for lace don't usually dip in the middle. Looks too new for animal ivory, but could be vegetable ivory. or as has been suggest some sort of plastic. Used as a knife rest, it would roll. My favourite suggest is a bead for a door curtain, but I'm not convinced about that. Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Another "lace bobbin" on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
On 31/01/2014 13:31, J D Hammett wrote: > >>> > The listing does not say 'lace bobbin' but just bobbin.<<< Are we looking at the same thing? The title says "Vintage or Antique Turned Lace Bobbin"and in the description: "Welcome to my auction for an Antique or Vintage Turned Bobbin.The item appears to be made from turned animal bone with a hollow centre. Unusually large for a lace bobbin " I have no idea what it might be, although it certainly could be used as a knife rest. A more detailed description would help. Lesley - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] oh no
On 31/01/2014 17:41, J D Hammett wrote: >> Please can you tell us "foreigners" what 1.safety heels 2. bobby pins are. :-)<< Not a 'foreigner' but bobby pins are hair grips. Dunno what safety heels are tho. Lesley - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] oh no
Hi, Thank you Lesley. Joepie. -Original Message- From: Lesley Blackshaw Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 6:22 PM To: lace Subject: Re: [lace] oh no On 31/01/2014 17:41, J D Hammett wrote: >> Please can you tell us "foreigners" what 1.safety heels 2. bobby pins are. :-)<< Not a 'foreigner' but bobby pins are hair grips. Dunno what safety heels are tho. Lesley - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Re: [lace] Another "lace bobbin" on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
Hi Jean, Yes, the title does say lace bobbin, but the vendor doubts it with; "Unusually large for a lace bobbin " . The grooves seem to be straight rather than slightly skewed as they would be as screw-threads. On a table cloth -possibly with an underlay which is soft- the item used as a knife rest would not roll. As you say: rollers do not usually dip in the middle. It could be plastic of some type, but would it be made as nicely? A door curtain? I cannot see an opening nor is there any damage where the beads would have 'clonked' against each other. And a starting bead of £4.99 seems rather steep for a bit of plastic. Joepie, East Sussex From: Jean Nathan Subject: [lace] Another "lace bobbin" on Ebay - any ideas on what it is? The title does say "lace bobbin". The word lace is missing from the description.<... .>Used as a knife rest, it would roll. My favourite suggest is a bead for a door curtain, but I'm not convinced about that. Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Another "lace bobbin" on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
Another "I don't know what it is so I'll call it a lace bobbin" on Ebay. Bone, turned, around three and a half inches long with a hollow centre. Any ideas? My first thought was to wind yardage as it's worked, but that would be straight across the middle and not dip in. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-or-Antique-Turned-Lace-Bobbin-/40065613651 1 ?pt=UK_Crafts_Lace_Making_ET&hash=item5d48f7793f tinied: http://tinyurl.com/nntydkv Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK --- >From Jeri: Here is an opportunity for one of our young members to become our expert on lace tools! Perhaps someone who collects them. (Did you read my memo yesterday about our need for experts?) All you require in this computerized world is the ability to do research, and to ask the who? what? when? where? why? While finishing up this reply (close to 3 hours of back and forth to my library, etc), Cynthia has weighed in that this is definitely a knife rest. I'm releasing my memo anyway, because it teaches by example how to ask questions, think, and eliminate unlikely possibilities. I was looking at the one photo that comes up. It does not show the ends as being open like a bead, as one Arachne member has written. Before I read this bead possibility, I thought the ends looked closed and smooth. Here are my notes based on closed ends. I do not know how to recover the complete description some replies have mentioned. Not like any needlework tool I remember in my books, and I've just closely looked again at 5 of the best. It has a slight resemblance to a tool used for darning gloves. But, for this purpose, why are both ends the same? Why grooves that would snag? Wouldn't points of needles damage the surface? They rule this purpose out, glass, metal or wood being more suitable as darners. Glove darners usually have a long handle at one end, and a bulbous shape at the darning end that stretched fabric so one could see what needed repair and held the fabric so repairs could be done. This looks to be the correct size with the center narrowed area being what one would grip. Still, why the grooves? Why ivory/bone? Why 2 darning ends? As presented, it makes no sense as a "spool". If hollow, it seems very tightly shut at the points where parts meet, making it unsuitable for storing old needles. If moisture got trapped inside, needles might rust. Still, this might be the answer. The 3 1/2" length is correct for this purpose, Agnes. If this is as smooth as it appears, it could be used now to polish lace - as lobster shells were once used. Think of aficots used by French lace makers to polish and remove small slubs from finished needle lace. But, it makes no sense for this ivory/bone implement to have started out for this purpose. The lace makers needing to polish their laces were very poor, and smooth lobster claw aficots would have been free. If this is for the dining table, as Brian suggests, I think it is more likely a chopsticks rest or maybe for an old writing implement - pen rest (but wet ink pens would stain it). I have 4 sets of jade chopsticks from my trip to China in the 1980s. They came with small jade rests 1 3/4" in length and carved to be lower in the center top, presumably to keep chopstick tips off the table surface? Anyone have books with table settings and writing implements? I do not think bone or ivory is suitable for a knife rest, though maybe they were what was available (and easily replaced) for use by children. I do not remember knives being offered at dining tables in the Orient. Cutting and cubing was done in the kitchen to make food of a size that chopsticks could manage. I have antique cut glass ones that are more appropriate for the sharpened blades used in Western cultures to carve meat 100 years ago. The rest length on these is 2", with quite large round ends that are very fancy. These could raise the knife up quite a bit from the tablecloth, were easily cleaned, did not stain, were elegant. Better photos on Ebay, and easy way to retrieve dealer's notes, would help. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center In a message dated 1/31/2014, brid...@bigpond.com writes: If you want a non needlework tool suggestion, then a "Knife Rest" might fit the bill. (Keep it off the table cloth!) Brian - It says it has a hollow centre, so one must be able to open it: a needle case? Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK Another "I don't know what it is so I'll call it a lace bobbin" on Ebay. Bone, turned, around three and a half inches long with a hollow centre. Any ideas? My first thought was to wind yardage as it's worked, but that would be straight across the middle
Re: [lace] Another "lace bobbin" on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
My guess is that it is a vintage turned piece-of-something-else. On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:56 PM, Jean Nathan wrote: > > tinied: > > http://tinyurl.com/nntydkv > > -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] oh no - Clarification has been Requested
To save others from investing valuable time: Early this morning, I wrote privately to Becca in Utah, asking for clarification. We'll just have to wait for a reply from her. She is in another time zone, and may be at work during the day. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Another "lace bobbin" on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
Oh, wait - a curtain pull! You know, that handle that hangs on the end of the cord that draws your curtains. The rings provide traction in your hand, you can pull with your fingers wrapped around the smooth middle section. I see the seller has confirmed that the hole goes right through the centre; the cord would be threaded through and knotted. Adele West Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) On 2014-01-30, at 11:56 PM, Jean Nathan wrote: > Another "I don't know what it is so I'll call it a lace bobbin" on Ebay. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Another "lace bobbin" on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
My first thought was that it's a needle case. I have something similar in wood which dates back to the 1980s or 1990s and would have been bought from one of the many bobbin turners around at the time. However, mine has a cap with a screw end which goes inside the main part. On close examination of the ebay photo the grooves at each end appear to be parallel decorative grooves rather than spiral threads. Could it be that there were two end caps, which are now missing, which just pushed onto the ends which are slightly tapered? Maybe even thimbles as end caps to stop the contents from falling out. If it was intended as a knife/chopstick rest why bother to make it hollow? and why not have a flat surface somewhere to stop it from rolling around? Brenda On 31 Jan 2014, at 07:56, Jean Nathan wrote: > Another "I don't know what it is so I'll call it a lace bobbin" on Ebay. Brenda in Allhallows www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Another "lace bobbin" on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
Or a fan pull for the cord of a ceiling fan. I had a secret pal give me a wooden one that looks pretty much the same. Cindy Rusak, in snowy Bracebridge, ON, Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] oh no
1.safety heels I suspect it's a typo and she meant safety pins Sue suebabbs...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] oh no
Hello Becca and everyone I think Sue is right, you probably mean safety pins. I was intrigued by the use of bobby pins. I found an example: http://deborahsknitting.com/images/tips/wrapturn.jpg deborahsknitting.com has a lot of other ideas. At first I thought you meant reinforced heel not safety heel - I use a nylon thread in the short rows for reinforcing. Worked well on a pair of *lace socks* I made. FWIW when I do short rows I knit the wrapped thread at the time, no need for dangly markers, and it draws in the work nearby to avoid a hole. On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 6:04 PM, wrote: > I remember a few weeks ago watching a demonstration on do a short row heel > that involved safety heels and another one that used bobby > pins.argh I can't find where I put it. Can anyone help me? please? > It looked very easy and there did not seem to be holes and no awful wraps. > Thank you if you can > > -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] sorry
I am such a dough head. I sent my 'oh no' to the wrong group. I am knitting a pair of socks and the safety pins and pins. The short row heels I was looking for used bobby pins which are what you use in your hair. Again, sorry. Becca in Utah - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/