RE: [LARTC] Linux router and Bandwidth control

2003-06-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If you put your friends in NAT (Private IP), no problem ..
They have webserver, all you have to do is forward packets going to port 80
to private ip:80
Further more read iptables-howto

Regards,
Rio Martin.



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From: Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 17:51:51 +0530
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Subject: [LARTC] Linux router and Bandwidth control


Hello All,

I have 1.5Mbits Backbone connection with 16 public ip address.

I like to provide share my connection with someother my friends how will
have public ip addess.

So i wanted to configre linux router with bandwidth controll for my friends
connection.

Actully i tried with single interface in linux and CBQ but it does not
controll.

I should do not use NAT as my friends are running web servers.

Is it possible to configure in linux.or some links to configure this

Advance thanks
Joe


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Re: [LARTC] Linux router and Bandwidth control

2003-06-25 Thread Leigh Waldie
Hey Joe,

One possible configuration is to configure your linux box as an ethernet bridge
between your client machines and the public router

|==|
| PC 1 |
|==|\
 \
|==|  \   |===| ||
| PC 2 |---O--| LINUX |-| ROUTER |
|==|  /   |===| ||
 /
|==|/
| PC 3 |
|==|

and then make use of the WRR qdisc to control the traffic.

There are obviously many other possibilities, but this is the method I am currently
testing, so I thought I would make you aware of it's existence.

The link for more info is http://wipl-wrr.sourceforge.net/

Leigh


 Hello All,

 I have 1.5Mbits Backbone connection with 16 public ip address.

 I like to provide share my connection with someother my friends how will
 have public ip addess.

 So i wanted to configre linux router with bandwidth controll for my friends
 connection.

 Actully i tried with single interface in linux and CBQ but it does not
 controll.

 I should do not use NAT as my friends are running web servers.

 Is it possible to configure in linux.or some links to configure this

 Advance thanks
 Joe


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Re: [LARTC] Linux router and Bandwidth control

2003-06-25 Thread Joe
Hello Martin,

Currently i am using this configuration.

In future they may run mail server then i have to go for new configuration
where i have to give them the public ip address.

Thanks
Sathyan

If you put your friends in NAT (Private IP), no problem ..
They have webserver, all you have to do is forward packets going to port 80
to private ip:80
Further more read iptables-howto

Regards,
Rio Martin.



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From: Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 17:51:51 +0530
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [LARTC] Linux router and Bandwidth control


Hello All,

I have 1.5Mbits Backbone connection with 16 public ip address.

I like to provide share my connection with someother my friends how will
have public ip addess.

So i wanted to configre linux router with bandwidth controll for my friends
connection.

Actully i tried with single interface in linux and CBQ but it does not
controll.

I should do not use NAT as my friends are running web servers.

Is it possible to configure in linux.or some links to configure this

Advance thanks
Joe


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Re: [LARTC] Linux router and Bandwidth control

2003-06-25 Thread Joe
Hello Leigh,

Thanks, I will look into this configuration and i will get back to you
tomorrow.

Regards,
Joe

 Hey Joe,

 One possible configuration is to configure your linux box as an ethernet
bridge
 between your client machines and the public router

 |==|
 | PC 1 |
 |==|\
  \
 |==|  \   |===| ||
 | PC 2 |---O--| LINUX |-| ROUTER |
 |==|  /   |===| ||
  /
 |==|/
 | PC 3 |
 |==|

 and then make use of the WRR qdisc to control the traffic.

 There are obviously many other possibilities, but this is the method I am
currently
 testing, so I thought I would make you aware of it's existence.

 The link for more info is http://wipl-wrr.sourceforge.net/

 Leigh


  Hello All,
 
  I have 1.5Mbits Backbone connection with 16 public ip address.
 
  I like to provide share my connection with someother my friends how will
  have public ip addess.
 
  So i wanted to configre linux router with bandwidth controll for my
friends
  connection.
 
  Actully i tried with single interface in linux and CBQ but it does not
  controll.
 
  I should do not use NAT as my friends are running web servers.
 
  Is it possible to configure in linux.or some links to configure this
 
  Advance thanks
  Joe
 
 
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Re: [LARTC] Linux router and Bandwidth control

2003-06-25 Thread Shay Bosse
Hi Joe,

I see no real reason giving the servers real IP addresses, you're better
keeping the NAT and forward the ports to the private address.
If you have more than one mail server, you can map diffrent public IP
address
to a diffrent private address. this will also keep your servers safe...

Cheers,

Shay Bosse
System Administrator
PointMatch Ltd. http://www.pointmatch.com


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Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [LARTC] Linux router and Bandwidth control


 Hello Martin,

 Currently i am using this configuration.

 In future they may run mail server then i have to go for new configuration
 where i have to give them the public ip address.

 Thanks
 Sathyan

 If you put your friends in NAT (Private IP), no problem ..
 They have webserver, all you have to do is forward packets going to port
80
 to private ip:80
 Further more read iptables-howto

 Regards,
 Rio Martin.



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 From: Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 17:51:51 +0530
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [LARTC] Linux router and Bandwidth control


 Hello All,

 I have 1.5Mbits Backbone connection with 16 public ip address.

 I like to provide share my connection with someother my friends how will
 have public ip addess.

 So i wanted to configre linux router with bandwidth controll for my
friends
 connection.

 Actully i tried with single interface in linux and CBQ but it does not
 controll.

 I should do not use NAT as my friends are running web servers.

 Is it possible to configure in linux.or some links to configure this

 Advance thanks
 Joe


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Re: [LARTC] Linux router and Bandwidth control

2003-06-25 Thread Leigh Waldie
 Hi Joe,

 I see no real reason giving the servers real IP addresses, you're better
 keeping the NAT and forward the ports to the private address.
 If you have more than one mail server, you can map diffrent public IP
 address
 to a diffrent private address. this will also keep your servers safe...


Agreed this is of course the best way to secure lots of servers.

And if you like the look of wrr as a qdisc,

(and it does seem to have some very advanced features -
  such as the ability to spot large downloads and
  automatically decrease the available bandwidth for that
  connection for the duration of the download -
  although I could be wrong in my understanding of this) ,

then you can still use this qdisc with a NATing router,
so have a look at their site anyway.

The suggestion of a bridge was intended as a simple no fuss
solution which can easily be bypassed in times of need -
such as component failure - by simply taking the cable out
of the bridge and plopping it straight back in the router.

I was of course assuming that your friends would take
care of their own security, thus removing the burden of you
even telling them about the traffic shaping as well as
preventing you from having to manage all their port forwarding
requirements.

I'm sure the whole business of traffic shaping is far too
complicated for any one answer to be correct even one percent
of the time so I accept that this answer may be useless for you.

Good luck!

Leigh

 Cheers,

 Shay Bosse
 System Administrator
 PointMatch Ltd. http://www.pointmatch.com


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 From: Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 5:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [LARTC] Linux router and Bandwidth control


 Hello Martin,

 Currently i am using this configuration.

 In future they may run mail server then i have to go for new configuration
 where i have to give them the public ip address.

 Thanks
 Sathyan

 If you put your friends in NAT (Private IP), no problem ..
 They have webserver, all you have to do is forward packets going to port
 80
 to private ip:80
 Further more read iptables-howto

 Regards,
 Rio Martin.



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 From: Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 17:51:51 +0530
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 Subject: [LARTC] Linux router and Bandwidth control


 Hello All,

 I have 1.5Mbits Backbone connection with 16 public ip address.

 I like to provide share my connection with someother my friends how will
 have public ip addess.

 So i wanted to configre linux router with bandwidth controll for my
 friends
 connection.

 Actully i tried with single interface in linux and CBQ but it does not
 controll.

 I should do not use NAT as my friends are running web servers.

 Is it possible to configure in linux.or some links to configure this

 Advance thanks
 Joe


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Re: [LARTC] Linux router and Bandwidth control

2003-06-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all,
About servers in private network, could you all mention good points why
servers should be put in private network. I must write down some reports
about these, because during this week, i have new jobs maintaining new
organisation that still put their servers in public ip range. I ve just
moved several servers like mailserver,dns,web to private network. And soon
all servers will be moved to the private network.

Thanks.
Regards,

Rio Martin.




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From: Leigh Waldie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 16:42:26 +0100 (BST)
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Subject: Re: [LARTC] Linux router and Bandwidth control

 Hi Joe,

 I see no real reason giving the servers real IP addresses, you're better
 keeping the NAT and forward the ports to the private address.
 If you have more than one mail server, you can map diffrent public IP
 address
 to a diffrent private address. this will also keep your servers safe...


Agreed this is of course the best way to secure lots of servers.

And if you like the look of wrr as a qdisc,

(and it does seem to have some very advanced features -
  such as the ability to spot large downloads and
  automatically decrease the available bandwidth for that
  connection for the duration of the download -
  although I could be wrong in my understanding of this) ,

then you can still use this qdisc with a NATing router,
so have a look at their site anyway.

The suggestion of a bridge was intended as a simple no fuss
solution which can easily be bypassed in times of need -
such as component failure - by simply taking the cable out
of the bridge and plopping it straight back in the router.

I was of course assuming that your friends would take
care of their own security, thus removing the burden of you
even telling them about the traffic shaping as well as
preventing you from having to manage all their port forwarding
requirements.

I'm sure the whole business of traffic shaping is far too
complicated for any one answer to be correct even one percent
of the time so I accept that this answer may be useless for you.

Good luck!

Leigh




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