Re: [Lazarus] Multilang application and syncing .po files

[Maxim Ganetsky via Lazarus]

19.06.2018 21:07, Tomáš Emresz via Lazarus пишет:

Hello,

úterý 19. června 2018, 16:14:01, napsal jste:

19.06.2018 16:26, Tomáš Emresz via Lazarus пишет:

Hello,

i was searching for, changing something and I don't understand. When I
add  force  update  po  on  next compile, change showed only in .cs.po
(main  .po  was  not  changed).



Therefore only .cs.po was outdated.


Please, what do you exactly mean by this ? (in xxx.po there is no this
RS. This new RS was added only to xxx.cs.po but xxx.po was not changed
and is missing this RS)


This is plain impossible.

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Re: [Lazarus] Cannot make IDE after patch for "uses GraphType"

[Juha Manninen via Lazarus]

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 2:05 PM AlexeyT via Lazarus
 wrote:
> checklst.pas(24,46) Fatal: Cannot find GraphType used by CheckLst,
> incompatible
> ppu=/home/user/lazarus/components/lazutils/lib/x86_64-linux/graphtype.ppu,
> multiple packages: LazUtils, LCLBase
>
> maybe it's some bug? i just updated from trunk. and used "svn revert -R ."

A clean build helps as Ondrej replied.
I wonder if you have not experienced such errors earlier during these
years. A clean build has always been the solution. Maybe you just
forgot it this time.

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Re: [Lazarus] Multilang application and syncing .po files

[Tomáš Emresz via Lazarus]

Hello,

úterý 19. června 2018, 16:14:01, napsal jste:
> 19.06.2018 16:26, Tomáš Emresz via Lazarus пишет:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> i was searching for, changing something and I don't understand. When I
>> add  force  update  po  on  next compile, change showed only in .cs.po
>> (main  .po  was  not  changed).

> Therefore only .cs.po was outdated.

Please, what do you exactly mean by this ? (in xxx.po there is no this
RS. This new RS was added only to xxx.cs.po but xxx.po was not changed
and is missing this RS)

>> When I add some resoucestrings to unit
>> (not form), this RS is not somewhere (I also tried force update .po).

> Is this unit part of project? Please check in Project Inspector.

Will check this, thanks..

>> Antivir is disabled.
>> 
>> tool  updatepofiles  (in  other  directory  for test) did nothing (and
>> needs admin access (drive D, user could write in this directory).

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Re: [Lazarus] CodeTools commands question

[Ondrej Pokorny via Lazarus]

On 19.06.2018 19:42, Martin Frb via Lazarus wrote:

On 19/06/2018 19:26, Ondrej Pokorny via Lazarus wrote:

On 19.06.2018 19:22, Vojtěch Čihák via Lazarus wrote:
Still, it would be nice to have two separate actions for this, 
Alt+Up and At+Down.


I agree. But there is one problem: what to do with Ctrl+Click? AFAIK 
Lazarus IDE cannot change mouse mappings, only key mappings. Or am I 
wrong?

There is a whole config for the mouse.

If we have the action, we can add it to the choice of things that can 
be assigned to mouse buttons.



Great, I forgot about it. Then - what myself concerns - the option can 
be deleted and the command can be split into two:

1.) find declaration
2.) find declaration & jump to implementation

Btw. the mouse command is named "jump to implementation", which is wrong.

Ondrej

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Re: [Lazarus] CodeTools commands question

[Martin Frb via Lazarus]

On 19/06/2018 19:26, Ondrej Pokorny via Lazarus wrote:

On 19.06.2018 19:22, Vojtěch Čihák via Lazarus wrote:
Still, it would be nice to have two separate actions for this, Alt+Up 
and At+Down.


I agree. But there is one problem: what to do with Ctrl+Click? AFAIK 
Lazarus IDE cannot change mouse mappings, only key mappings. Or am I 
wrong?


Ondrej

There is a whole config for the mouse.

If we have the action, we can add it to the choice of things that can be 
assigned to mouse buttons.

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Re: [Lazarus] CodeTools commands question

[Ondrej Pokorny via Lazarus]

On 19.06.2018 19:22, Vojtěch Čihák via Lazarus wrote:
Still, it would be nice to have two separate actions for this, Alt+Up 
and At+Down.


I agree. But there is one problem: what to do with Ctrl+Click? AFAIK 
Lazarus IDE cannot change mouse mappings, only key mappings. Or am I wrong?


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Re: [Lazarus] CodeTools commands question

[Vojtěch Čihák via Lazarus]

Thanks, it works.
 
Still, it would be nice to have two separate actions for this, Alt+Up and 
At+Down.
 
V.
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Předmět: Re: [Lazarus] CodeTools commands question


On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 16:57:11 +0200
Vojtěch Čihák via Lazarus  wrote:

Maybe this option helps: "Jump directly to method body"

http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/IDE_Window:_Codetools_Options#Jumping_.28e.g._Method_Jumping.29
 




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Re: [Lazarus] CodeTools commands question

[Mattias Gaertner via Lazarus]

On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 16:57:11 +0200
Vojtěch Čihák via Lazarus  wrote:

>[...] Hi,
>  
> is there a CodeTool command that can take me directly to procedure/method 
> implementation?
>  
> Example:
>  
> function TTreeNode.GetTop: integer;
> begin
>   if TreeView <> nil then
>     TreeView.UpdateAllTops|;  //<-- caret is HERE
>   Result := FTop;
> end;  
>  
> by default, Ctrl+Shift+Up and Ctrl+Shift+Down jump between declaration and 
> implementation of TTreeNode.GetTop;
> Alt+Up takes me to declaration of TTreeNode.UpdateAllTops; and 
> Ctrl+Shift+Up/Down takes me to its implementation.
>  
> I'm looking for a way to get to implementation of UpdateAllTops directly ( 
> Alt+Down would be nice ).

Maybe this option helps: "Jump directly to method body"

http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/IDE_Window:_Codetools_Options#Jumping_.28e.g._Method_Jumping.29



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[Lazarus] CodeTools commands question

[Vojtěch Čihák via Lazarus]

Hi,
 
is there a CodeTool command that can take me directly to procedure/method 
implementation?
 
Example:
 
function TTreeNode.GetTop: integer;
begin
  if TreeView <> nil then
    TreeView.UpdateAllTops|;  //<-- caret is HERE
  Result := FTop;
end;  
 
by default, Ctrl+Shift+Up and Ctrl+Shift+Down jump between declaration and 
implementation of TTreeNode.GetTop;
Alt+Up takes me to declaration of TTreeNode.UpdateAllTops; and 
Ctrl+Shift+Up/Down takes me to its implementation.
 
I'm looking for a way to get to implementation of UpdateAllTops directly ( 
Alt+Down would be nice ).
 
Thank you,
 
V.

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Re: [Lazarus] Multilang application and syncing .po files

[Maxim Ganetsky via Lazarus]

19.06.2018 16:26, Tomáš Emresz via Lazarus пишет:
> Hello,
> 
> i was searching for, changing something and I don't understand. When I
> add  force  update  po  on  next compile, change showed only in .cs.po
> (main  .po  was  not  changed).

Therefore only .cs.po was outdated.

> When I add some resoucestrings to unit
> (not form), this RS is not somewhere (I also tried force update .po).

Is this unit part of project? Please check in Project Inspector.

> Antivir is disabled.
> 
> tool  updatepofiles  (in  other  directory  for test) did nothing (and
> needs admin access (drive D, user could write in this directory).

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Re: [Lazarus] Multilang application and syncing .po files

[Tomáš Emresz via Lazarus]

Hello,

i was searching for, changing something and I don't understand. When I
add  force  update  po  on  next compile, change showed only in .cs.po
(main  .po  was  not  changed). When I add some resoucestrings to unit
(not form), this RS is not somewhere (I also tried force update .po).

Antivir is disabled.

tool  updatepofiles  (in  other  directory  for test) did nothing (and
needs admin access (drive D, user could write in this directory).

T.E.



úterý 19. června 2018, 14:04:29, napsal jste:



> 19.06.2018 14:55, Tomáš Emresz via Lazarus пишет:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> lazarus 1.8.5 (fixes)
>> Date : 2018-06-14
>> FPC: 3.0.5
>> SVN: 58067
>> i386-win32-win32/win63
>> 
>> Running on Windows 10 CZ Pro.
>> 
>> In  some unit a have added LCLTranslator, setup i18n in project config
>> with right path, so components and resouceestrings
>> showed in po. When I add new, there is in main xxx.po file.
>> 
>> Lang I switching with :
>>   SetDefaultLang('','langs\');
>> in lpr on first line after begin.
>> 
>> Should  I  say  Lazarus,  that  there  is also xxx.cs.po (next will be
>> xxx.de.po etc) files or it should detect it in this directory ?

> No, Lazarus will find all of them automatically.

> Note that Lazarus will update translations only when main .po file is
> changed (i.e. you made changes to resource strings in code). So in case
> you place to your directory outdated translation when your main .po file
> is already up to date, you should use updatepofiles tool, which will
> update it.

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Re: [Lazarus] Multilang application and syncing .po files

[Zbyněk Fiala via Lazarus]

Hello Tomáš,
I used this approach several times
https://github.com/alrieckert/lazarus/tree/master/examples/translation
and it worked.
For example here:
https://github.com/zbyna/Media-Stub-Kodi-Creator/blob/2373ec4ff24bf124cb244eab07772e3cc81bee47/unit1.pas#L22
https://github.com/zbyna/Media-Stub-Kodi-Creator/blob/master/unit1.pas#L214

  Zbyněk

19. 6. 2018 v 14:12, Carlos E. R. via Lazarus :

>> On 2018-06-19 13:51, Maxim Ganetsky via Lazarus wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 19.06.2018 14:37, Carlos E. R. via Lazarus пишет:
 On 2018-06-19 13:09, Tomáš Emresz via Lazarus wrote:
 Hello,
 
 i  have  done generating .po files, could translate it through PoEdit,
 but  -  when  i add some RS or component, Lazarus update only main .po
 file,  not  .cs.po etc. So could Lazarus update these files too, or is
 there  any  merge tool for this ? Of course, I understand, that I must
 translate  this  string  after,  but  this  time,  I  sync  this files
 manually, which is bad.
 
 Any idea ?
>>> 
>>> I'll answer as translator, I do not yet know how Lazarus handles this.
>>> 
>>> The programmer should only change the .pot files.
>> 
>> Lazarus handles all this itself. Main .po file is actually is what you
>> mean by .pot (historically it has .po extension instead of .pot).
> 
> Well, IMHO that is wrong.
> 
> The .pot file should contain all the messages without any translation,
> it is the master file. And the .po files are the translations, one per
> language. The .pot file is maintained by the programmers, the .po are
> maintained by the translators.
> 
> Anyway, msgmerge can handle that situation, too.
> 
> 
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Re: [Lazarus] Multilang application and syncing .po files

[Carlos E. R. via Lazarus]

On 2018-06-19 13:51, Maxim Ganetsky via Lazarus wrote:
> 
> 
> 19.06.2018 14:37, Carlos E. R. via Lazarus пишет:
>> On 2018-06-19 13:09, Tomáš Emresz via Lazarus wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> i  have  done generating .po files, could translate it through PoEdit,
>>> but  -  when  i add some RS or component, Lazarus update only main .po
>>> file,  not  .cs.po etc. So could Lazarus update these files too, or is
>>> there  any  merge tool for this ? Of course, I understand, that I must
>>> translate  this  string  after,  but  this  time,  I  sync  this files
>>> manually, which is bad.
>>>
>>> Any idea ?
>>
>> I'll answer as translator, I do not yet know how Lazarus handles this.
>>
>> The programmer should only change the .pot files.
> 
> Lazarus handles all this itself. Main .po file is actually is what you
> mean by .pot (historically it has .po extension instead of .pot).

Well, IMHO that is wrong.

The .pot file should contain all the messages without any translation,
it is the master file. And the .po files are the translations, one per
language. The .pot file is maintained by the programmers, the .po are
maintained by the translators.

Anyway, msgmerge can handle that situation, too.


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Re: [Lazarus] Multilang application and syncing .po files

[Maxim Ganetsky via Lazarus]

19.06.2018 14:55, Tomáš Emresz via Lazarus пишет:
> Hello,
> 
> lazarus 1.8.5 (fixes)
> Date : 2018-06-14
> FPC: 3.0.5
> SVN: 58067
> i386-win32-win32/win63
> 
> Running on Windows 10 CZ Pro.
> 
> In  some unit a have added LCLTranslator, setup i18n in project config
> with right path, so components and resouceestrings
> showed in po. When I add new, there is in main xxx.po file.
> 
> Lang I switching with :
>   SetDefaultLang('','langs\');
> in lpr on first line after begin.
> 
> Should  I  say  Lazarus,  that  there  is also xxx.cs.po (next will be
> xxx.de.po etc) files or it should detect it in this directory ?

No, Lazarus will find all of them automatically.

Note that Lazarus will update translations only when main .po file is
changed (i.e. you made changes to resource strings in code). So in case
you place to your directory outdated translation when your main .po file
is already up to date, you should use updatepofiles tool, which will
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Re: [Lazarus] Multilang application and syncing .po files

[Tomáš Emresz via Lazarus]

Hello,

lazarus 1.8.5 (fixes)
Date : 2018-06-14
FPC: 3.0.5
SVN: 58067
i386-win32-win32/win63

Running on Windows 10 CZ Pro.

In  some unit a have added LCLTranslator, setup i18n in project config
with right path, so components and resouceestrings
showed in po. When I add new, there is in main xxx.po file.

Lang I switching with :
  SetDefaultLang('','langs\');
in lpr on first line after begin.

Should  I  say  Lazarus,  that  there  is also xxx.cs.po (next will be
xxx.de.po etc) files or it should detect it in this directory ?

Many thanks

T.E.

úterý 19. června 2018, 13:45:53, napsal jste:



> 19.06.2018 14:09, Tomáš Emresz via Lazarus пишет:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> i  have  done generating .po files, could translate it through PoEdit,
>> but  -  when  i add some RS or component, Lazarus update only main .po
>> file,  not  .cs.po etc. So could Lazarus update these files too, or is
>> there  any  merge tool for this ? Of course, I understand, that I must
>> translate  this  string  after,  but  this  time,  I  sync  this files
>> manually, which is bad.
>> 
>> Any idea ?

> Which Lazarus version, OS?

> Lazarus does update translations together with main .po file. Make sure
> that your antivirus does not block writing to them (look at dates/times
> of translation files, if e.g. the half of them have the same date/time
> after update and the others not, this is antivirus).

> Note that you can sync translations with main .po file manually using
> \tools\updatepofiles tool:

> updatepofiles mainpofile.po

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Re: [Lazarus] Multilang application and syncing .po files

[Maxim Ganetsky via Lazarus]

19.06.2018 14:37, Carlos E. R. via Lazarus пишет:
> On 2018-06-19 13:09, Tomáš Emresz via Lazarus wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> i  have  done generating .po files, could translate it through PoEdit,
>> but  -  when  i add some RS or component, Lazarus update only main .po
>> file,  not  .cs.po etc. So could Lazarus update these files too, or is
>> there  any  merge tool for this ? Of course, I understand, that I must
>> translate  this  string  after,  but  this  time,  I  sync  this files
>> manually, which is bad.
>>
>> Any idea ?
> 
> I'll answer as translator, I do not yet know how Lazarus handles this.
> 
> The programmer should only change the .pot files.

Lazarus handles all this itself. Main .po file is actually is what you
mean by .pot (historically it has .po extension instead of .pot).

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Re: [Lazarus] Multilang application and syncing .po files

[Maxim Ganetsky via Lazarus]

19.06.2018 14:09, Tomáš Emresz via Lazarus пишет:
> Hello,
> 
> i  have  done generating .po files, could translate it through PoEdit,
> but  -  when  i add some RS or component, Lazarus update only main .po
> file,  not  .cs.po etc. So could Lazarus update these files too, or is
> there  any  merge tool for this ? Of course, I understand, that I must
> translate  this  string  after,  but  this  time,  I  sync  this files
> manually, which is bad.
> 
> Any idea ?

Which Lazarus version, OS?

Lazarus does update translations together with main .po file. Make sure
that your antivirus does not block writing to them (look at dates/times
of translation files, if e.g. the half of them have the same date/time
after update and the others not, this is antivirus).

Note that you can sync translations with main .po file manually using
\tools\updatepofiles tool:

updatepofiles mainpofile.po

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Re: [Lazarus] Multilang application and syncing .po files

[Tomáš Emresz via Lazarus]

Hello,

thanks  for  long  answer,  but - Lazarus generate only .po file ( and
.lrs in output directory). There is no .pot file.

T.E.

úterý 19. června 2018, 13:37:14, napsal jste:

> On 2018-06-19 13:09, Tomáš Emresz via Lazarus wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> i  have  done generating .po files, could translate it through PoEdit,
>> but  -  when  i add some RS or component, Lazarus update only main .po
>> file,  not  .cs.po etc. So could Lazarus update these files too, or is
>> there  any  merge tool for this ? Of course, I understand, that I must
>> translate  this  string  after,  but  this  time,  I  sync  this files
>> manually, which is bad.
>> 
>> Any idea ?

> I'll answer as translator, I do not yet know how Lazarus handles this.

> The programmer should only change the .pot files.

> There are other tools that propagate the changes in the .pot to the
> .po files, which can be used by the programmer (in the Makefile) or
> the translators, using "msgmerge".

> For example, a translator could do:

>   msgmerge --previous --no-wrap --force-po \
> -U $POFILE -C ../memory.es.po $POTFILE
>   msgfmt --check --stat $POFILE
>   rm messages.mo


> The translator has access to previous translations and memory files
> to do fuzzy automatic translations which you probably as programmer can't.

> The programmer could do:

>   msgmerge --previous --no-wrap --force-po -U $POFILE $POTFILE
>   msgfmt --check --stat $POFILE
>   rm messages.mo

> Notice the missing memory file


> (and repeat for each language)



> A sample script as programmer, for all languages:

> #!/bin/bash

> for FILES in `ls *.po` ;
> do
> echo
> echo $FILES
> "-"
> echo
> F=`basename $FILES .po`
> FF=`basename $F .es`
> POFILE=$FF.es.po
> POTFILE=../../00-pot/$FF.pot

> if test -f $POFILE -a -f $POTFILE; then
> echo Applying msgmerge to $POFILE
> msgmerge --previous --no-wrap --force-po -U $POFILE $POTFILE
> msgfmt --check --stat $POFILE
> rm messages.mo
> else
> echo "Not found: " $POFILE or  $POTFILE
> fi || { echo "msgmerge --no-wrap --force-po for \"$POTFILE\" failed" ; }

> done


> Of course, you'd have to adapt paths to your situation.





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Re: [Lazarus] Cannot make IDE after patch for "uses GraphType"

[Ondrej Pokorny via Lazarus]

On 19.06.2018 13:05, AlexeyT via Lazarus wrote:
checklst.pas(24,46) Fatal: Cannot find GraphType used by CheckLst, 
incompatible 
ppu=/home/user/lazarus/components/lazutils/lib/x86_64-linux/graphtype.ppu, 
multiple packages: LazUtils, LCLBase


maybe it's some bug? i just updated from trunk. and used "svn revert 
-R ."



Do clean all.

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[Lazarus] Multilang application and syncing .po files

[Tomáš Emresz via Lazarus]

Hello,

i  have  done generating .po files, could translate it through PoEdit,
but  -  when  i add some RS or component, Lazarus update only main .po
file,  not  .cs.po etc. So could Lazarus update these files too, or is
there  any  merge tool for this ? Of course, I understand, that I must
translate  this  string  after,  but  this  time,  I  sync  this files
manually, which is bad.

Any idea ?

  

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