Re: [LegacyUG] 1940 Census status - slightly off-topic

[Deborah Trounstine]

Are SOME people making everything political now? Jeez!

On 4/2/2012 2:11 PM, Michele Lewis wrote:
> It figures that the deep south would be the bottom of the heap.  Interesting 
> that the opted to put the American Territories at the top of the list
>
> Michele
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hwedhlor [mailto:hwedh...@cox.net]
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 5:04 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] 1940 Census status - slightly off-topic
>
> Here's the status on the 1940 U.S. Federal Census at Ancestry.com as of 5 
> p.m. EST.
>
> _Completed_
> American Samoa
> Delaware
> District of Columbia
> Guam
> Indiana
> Maine
> Nevada
> Panama Canal Zone
> Virgin Islands
>
> _In Process_
> California
> New York
> Pennsylvania
> Rhode Island
> Virginia
>
> If you log on to the National Archives site they are posting "Page not found" 
> for the many, many states they have not yet loaded.
>
> John Zimmerman
> Mesa, AZ
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Family Search

[Deborah Trounstine]

That worked great, Paul. Thanks so  much for posting this!
>
> If you already have a “regular” Family Search account, go to the link
> below. About halfway down, there is a link ‘click here to open the
> registration page.
>
> That brings you to a registration page. Do not type in all your
> information to create a new account. Click on Sign In at the upper
> right, enter your existing family search id and password, and follow
> the instructions. If you are accepted (there are non LDS spots
> available) you will get an e-mail link and some instructions. This
> effectively upgrades your regular familysearch account to a new.family
> search account .
>
> I and several others have used this in the last few weeks and obtained
> access to new.familysearch.
>
> https://help.familysearch.org/publishing/859/112926_f.SAL_Public.html
>
> Paul
>
> *From:*sarlesinsi...@gmail.com [mailto:sarlesinsi...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* March-22-12 3:27 PM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Family Search
>
> I did search the archives and found how to get Family Search accessed
> by a button on the menu bar. However, when I tried to access
> new.familysearch and register I got a message saying it was not
> available right now. Is it just me or is there something else wrong?
>
> Jane Sarles
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Re: [LegacyUG] Stability of V 7.5.0.166

[Deborah Trounstine]

I've been using it like mad ever since the release and it's a peach of a
release imho. :)

On 3/17/2012 6:44 PM, Dean Adams wrote:
> I am running the newest version with no problems.  The 1940 Census option
> will be great.
>
> Dean Adams
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jennifer Crockett [mailto:jcrock...@optusnet.com.au]
> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 9:13 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Stability of V 7.5.0.166
>
> Hi All
>
> I am currently on Version: 7.5.0.112
>
> Given the problems associated with later versions, I hesitated to upgrade to
> Version: 7.5.0.166.
>
> Does anyone still have problems with this latest version? I have been sent a
> Legacy file to look at by a relative, and can't open it in my current
> version as he used the latest one.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jennifer
> http://colston-wenck.com
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[LegacyUG] This is propaganda at its worst

[Deborah Trounstine]

If this is what the Legacy User Group is going to turn into, count me
out of everything pertaining to any of your products.
This post is false and wrong and Ellen is crazy to believe it.
Do something besides sit around watching Fox & Friends all day!

 Original Message 
Subject:Re: [LegacyUG] IBM turned down by Obama
Date:   Mon, 17 Oct 2011 03:28:26 + (UTC)
From:   kramer...@comcast.net
Reply-To:   LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com



I was surprised to see something so off topic here, but I had not heard
about this yet.  Thank you for sharing, but in an international and
specific venue, not everyone will appreciate it.

God bless,
Ellen

*From: *"Deborah Trounstine" 
*To: *LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
*Sent: *Sunday, October 16, 2011 12:29:49 AM
*Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] IBM turned down by Obama

Abhorrent propaganda. Shame on you.

On 10/15/2011 2:14 PM, Fred Schwilk wrote:
 >
 > *Subject:*  IBM turned down by Obama - *Hope the whole United
 > States population finds out about this. IBM offered to help reduce
 > Medicare fraud for free... The offer is true.Mort Zuckermann, US
 > News and World Report, a Democrat, was interviewed on Fox and
 > confirmed it. IBM has confirmed it. You won't believe it.*
 >
 > *IBM offered to help reduce Medicare fraud for free...*
 >
 > *What if I told you that the And, what if I told you that, in the
 > end and after two meetings, President Obama and his team, instead
 > of embracing a program that was proven to save money and one that
 > was projected to save almost one trillion dollars - a private
 > sector program costing the taxpayers nothing, zip, nada, zilch -
 > said, "Thanks but no thanks" and then embarked on passing one of
 > the most despised pieces of legislation in US history?*
 >
 > *Well, it's all true.*
 >
 > *Mr. Palmisano is quoted as saying during a taping
 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcR_bLBHcJo of The Wall Street
 > Journal's Viewpoints program on September 14, 2010: **"We could
 > have improved the quality and reduced the cost of the healthcare
 > system by $900 billion... I said we would do it for free to prove
 > that it works. They turned us down."*
 >
 > **
 >
 > *Be sure to click on the link above for Mr. Palmisano's statement.*
 >
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Re: [LegacyUG] IBM turned down by Obama

[Deborah Trounstine]

Abhorrent propaganda. Shame on you.

On 10/15/2011 2:14 PM, Fred Schwilk wrote:
>
> *Subject:*  IBM turned down by Obama - *Hope the whole United
> States population finds out about this. IBM offered to help reduce
> Medicare fraud for free... The offer is true.Mort Zuckermann, US
> News and World Report, a Democrat, was interviewed on Fox and
> confirmed it. IBM has confirmed it. You won't believe it.*
>
> *IBM offered to help reduce Medicare fraud for free...*
>
> *What if I told you that the And, what if I told you that, in the
> end and after two meetings, President Obama and his team, instead
> of embracing a program that was proven to save money and one that
> was projected to save almost one trillion dollars - a private
> sector program costing the taxpayers nothing, zip, nada, zilch -
> said, "Thanks but no thanks" and then embarked on passing one of
> the most despised pieces of legislation in US history?*
>
> *Well, it's all true.*
>
> *Mr. Palmisano is quoted as saying during a taping
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcR_bLBHcJo of The Wall Street
> Journal's Viewpoints program on September 14, 2010: **"We could
> have improved the quality and reduced the cost of the healthcare
> system by $900 billion... I said we would do it for free to prove
> that it works. They turned us down."*
>
> **
>
> *Be sure to click on the link above for Mr. Palmisano's statement.*
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] UnSourced Internet Trees

[Deborah Trounstine]

Good story, Erin! BTW I had to laugh at the idea of a "deaf certificate" :)

On 9/12/2011 01:23, Erin Bradshaw wrote:
> I have a perfect example of unsourced trees.  I contacted a woman on
> Ancestry that had included my great grandfather Merret.  She even had a
> copy of his deaf certificate with cause of death.  When I contacted her
> to ask how she was related to him (I had a copy of his Bible record with
> all the children listed), she responded saying that all the Merrit
> families in Wayne County, Illinois were related.  I responded back -
> really?  Because my great grandfather was illegitimate.  (I knew his
> mother and was lucky enough to have copies of letters written by her.)
>
> I never heard from this woman again.  And she no longer included my
> grandfather and his family in her tree.
>
> Erin
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] I know there must be an easy way to do this

[Deborah Trounstine]

I'm glad it worked Michele! Dennis was definitely the key person here
because I didn't realize that you couldn't tag people for that kind of
report :)
I learned something useful too!

On 9/12/2011 12:50, cranberryf...@cobridge.tv wrote:
> It worked!  I tagged 3 generations and exported.  The only thing that it had
> to do was add the children of the one 3rd generation ancestor I am
> interested in.  if I had added a 4th generation, it would have added the
> children of all of his siblings too so I didn't do that.  I just went back
> and tagged them and appended the import.  PERFECT!
>
> Michele :)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dennis M. Kowallek
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 3:14 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] I know there must be an easy way to do this
>
> On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 11:08:54 -0700, Deborah Trounstine
>   wrote:
>
>> Why can't you just use tagging? Tag the individuals you want and then
>> run a report on them.
> That's the ticket. But you may have to export the tagged individuals to
> another Legacy database before running the report.
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Re: [LegacyUG] I know there must be an easy way to do this

[Deborah Trounstine]

Why can't you just use tagging? Tag the individuals you want and then
run a report on them.

On 9/12/2011 11:05, cranberryf...@cobridge.tv wrote:
> 217 pages without a title page or index.  I don’t want to edit that.
> michele
> *From:* Marnie Oakes 
> *Sent:* Monday, September 12, 2011 1:24 PM
> *To:* mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] I know there must be an easy way to do this
> Could you create the Legacy report in Rich Text format and then edit
> it to leave only the direct line using
> Word?  That is how I ended up creating one Chronology/Timeline for
> five different individuals.  I did a lot of
> cut and paste, but I ended up with what I wanted.
> Marnie
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Re: [LegacyUG] Electronic Device

[Deborah Trounstine]

I have all my files on both my iPhone & my iPad and it's GREAT! Don't
back away from the convenience of the new tech, Kids!

On 6/20/2011 11:55, Liz Schmidt wrote:
> Nope  me too... I like it on the computer.. Don't want to bog down the
> phone...LOL
> **
> **/*Date:*/ 06/20/11 11:38:07
> /*To:*/ LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
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> /*Subject:*/ [LegacyUG] Electronic Device
> Am I the only one that does not have Legacy on a electronic device
> (phones, android, pads. etc except my computer) ?
> Tim
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy User Group reputation

[Deborah Trounstine]

Hi Charles - I appreciate your comments about the LUG as a whole. I have
to say though, that I was shut down rather rudely in the past by a
know-it-all on this list and just decided to quit commenting at all. A
lot of what goes on here is ridiculous and a waste of time. Offering a
helpful suggestion or opinion about how to solve a problem - sometimes
after a great deal of thought and careful writing - is more likely than
not to be hijacked by somebody who just wants to be the resident expert.
There would have to be a really compelling reason for me to participate
in this list anymore and, at the moment, I can't think of one.
Too bad.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Restoring Old Photos

[Deborah Trounstine]

I use Picasa by Google. It's a free download, very intuitive and easy to
use. There are lots of other programs out there but after trying Adobe
and some others, this is still my favorite.
~Deborah

Betty wrote:
>
> I am looking for any advice regarding restoring of old photos, so that
> I may attach them in Legacy. This would include not only photo’s but
> also newspaper articles and documents.  Can anyone suggest any good
> sites or information?
>
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> Thanks,
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Fonts

[Deborah Trounstine]

I'm not updating from v7.0 until I know that I won't get more bugs.

Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:
> Has anyone else noticed something that I have? Ever since Millennia decided 
> to become Family Search certified, there has been a plethora of small little 
> bugs that have crept up. One fix seems to introduce two more. For this very 
> reason, some users have decided to stay with the original v7.0.0 and some 
> have even dropped back to v6. I don't recall things being this hectic in the 
> recent past.
>
> But let's put this all into perspective - the bugs have been small, sometimes 
> more of an annoyance than anything else. Of course some of these bugs have 
> prevented certain users from accomplishing a specific task or enabling a 
> specific feature. Nevertheless I find it all interesting that so many things 
> can go wrong all at once. I'm just wondering if the next "update" shouldn't 
> be given a retrograde version number, perhaps something like v7.0.01 and we 
> start from over from there. :-)
>
> Brian in CA
>
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> -Original Message-
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> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Fonts
>
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> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 11:24 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Fonts
>
> I decided to change my screen fonts and selected my options for Data,
> Labels and Notes and everything looks the way I want it *except* for the
> names of the couple/individual in the centre of the Family View.  Is it
> not possible to change this from Arial?
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Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter: help with source detail

[Deborah Trounstine]

Hi Patricia,
Yes, I leave the old source in place until I have created the new one in
SourceWriter and tested it to make sure that all the info is there and
it works properly. In the process of creating the SW source, I do a lot
of copying & pasting which makes it faster.
Beware that there are still a few bugs in SW - e.g. in a number of
source types, if you enter the source text and then choose a repository,
all your text will disappear. So now I always choose my repository first
and then enter the text and I always test the source by completing it
and then reopening it to make sure everything works before I delete my
old source.
Hope this helps. If you have a more specific question, I'd be glad to
try to help out. I've now converted about 600 sources to SW.
Deborah

Patricia Hill wrote:
> Deborah
>
> Are you leaving the old source in your files until you get the new one
> completed?  I have been looking at my sources and need to do some work
> on them from when I first started and I would love to use
> the SourceWriter.
> Any help in the process will be appreciated
>
>
> /Patricia Thomas-Hill/
>
>
>
>
> --------
> *From:* Deborah Trounstine 
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Sent:* Mon, February 1, 2010 11:29:28 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter: help with source detail
>
> Thanks so much, Ron! I tried it and your instructions worked perfectly.
>
> Ron Ferguson wrote:
> > Deborah Trounstine wrote:
> >
> >> Up to this point, I've been creating a new SourceWriter master source
> >> for each source. For instance, for the 1850 Cincinnati census, I've
> >> created a new master source for each census record for each family and
> >> then link each family member to that master source, but I have not
> >> used the source detail at all.
> >> Today I tried creating a single master source and then individual
> >> source detail for each of the associated people. It's logical, of
> >> course, but when I went to re-assign the master source, I found there
> >> was no way to re-assign the source detail from a previous entry as
> >> well. 2 questions:
> >> IS there a way to re-assign the source detail from one individual to
> >> another individual?
> >> Is there a way to call up the source detail entries for each master
> >> source? Thanks so much for you help :)
> >> Deborah
> >>
> >>
> > Debora,
> >
> > Go to Family View for a person whom you know has the Master Source and
> > Source Detail which you require. Click on the Source Icon (Library
> Books)
> > and highlight the particular source required. On the bottom left of this
> > screen is a paste icon. Click this and the Source and Detail will be
> copied
> > to the source clipboard.
> >
> > Use the copy icons to copy to your Indivual, Event etc. on the
> Individual or
> > Event etc. Screens.
> >
> > Ron Ferguson
> > _
> >
> > Create your Website with Legacy, see Tutorials at:
> > http://www.fergys.co.uk
> > Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
> > http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> > For The Fergusons of N.W. England
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Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter: help with source detail

[Deborah Trounstine]

Thanks so much, Ron! I tried it and your instructions worked perfectly.

Ron Ferguson wrote:
> Deborah Trounstine wrote:
>
>> Up to this point, I've been creating a new SourceWriter master source
>> for each source. For instance, for the 1850 Cincinnati census, I've
>> created a new master source for each census record for each family and
>> then link each family member to that master source, but I have not
>> used the source detail at all.
>> Today I tried creating a single master source and then individual
>> source detail for each of the associated people. It's logical, of
>> course, but when I went to re-assign the master source, I found there
>> was no way to re-assign the source detail from a previous entry as
>> well. 2 questions:
>> IS there a way to re-assign the source detail from one individual to
>> another individual?
>> Is there a way to call up the source detail entries for each master
>> source? Thanks so much for you help :)
>> Deborah
>>
>>
> Debora,
>
> Go to Family View for a person whom you know has the Master Source and
> Source Detail which you require. Click on the Source Icon (Library Books)
> and highlight the particular source required. On the bottom left of this
> screen is a paste icon. Click this and the Source and Detail will be copied
> to the source clipboard.
>
> Use the copy icons to copy to your Indivual, Event etc. on the Individual or
> Event etc. Screens.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> _
>
> Create your Website with Legacy, see Tutorials at:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk
> Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
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[LegacyUG] SourceWriter: help with source detail

[Deborah Trounstine]

Up to this point, I've been creating a new SourceWriter master source
for each source. For instance, for the 1850 Cincinnati census, I've
created a new master source for each census record for each family and
then link each family member to that master source, but I have not used
the source detail at all.
Today I tried creating a single master source and then individual source
detail for each of the associated people. It's logical, of course, but
when I went to re-assign the master source, I found there was no way to
re-assign the source detail from a previous entry as well.
2 questions:
IS there a way to re-assign the source detail from one individual to
another individual?
Is there a way to call up the source detail entries for each master source?
Thanks so much for you help :)
Deborah




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Re: [LegacyUG] Genalogy reports - SourceWriter

[Deborah Trounstine]

Thank you, Charles.
That is a great idea and I'm going to change the few I have to that
designation.
Deborah

Charles Apple wrote:
> Jenny,
>
> I just ran an example on my Test database using the Pedigree template and I
> can now see what your concerns are.
>
> I did not run into this problem because, on page 142 of "Evidence Explained"
> by Elizabeth Shown Mills, Family Group Sheets, Charts, etc. are Artifacts.
> Based on this I used the, Artifacts > Privately Held, template for the
> Family Group Sheets and Pedigree Charts that I have received from others.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Charles
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]
> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 6:19 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Genalogy reports - SourceWriter
>
> Charles Apple wrote
>
>> My understanding is that the "supplied by" or "supplied date" is for
>> the puposes of showing the Provenance of a particular record.
>>
>
> Oh yes, I have no problem with that at all.  The two things I do have a
> problem with is that it some of the citations automatically assume that the
> Report was supplied by the Compiler and then put *my* residence so it reads
> as if that is the Compiler's residence.
> --
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Re: [LegacyUG] Adding New Master Source

[Deborah Trounstine]

Hi Walt,
At the top of your screen, click on "Options" and choose "Customize".
When that window opens, click on the "Sources" tab.
On the left, at the very bottom of the window, you'll see "Source Entry
System".
click on "Basic Source system" and then, if you want to have a choice,
also click the checkbox that says "ask when..."
Hope this helps ;)
Deborah

Walt & Alice DeWaele wrote:
> In the past, when I added a new master source, I had the option of choosing
> the basic or the sourcewriter.  Now for some reason it automaticly takes me
> to the sourcewriter instead of having the option.  Sometimes I like using
> the basic source.  How do I get back to having the option?  Thanks.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] New & adding a 2nd marriage

[Deborah Trounstine]

You can also print out all the keyboard shortcuts from the help file
right inside Legacy. Just type "keyboard" into the search box inside "help".
I agree! I've been using Legacy for more than 5 years and I'm
continually amazed at what more there is to learn about using this
powerful program :)

Ron and June wrote:
> I have been using Legacy for many years now and didn't realise that you
> could do the following!!  All good stuff!
>
>  >Once the information is finished, from the family screen
>  > click on the border area to the left of grandpa's information and it
>  >will scroll through his spouses.
>
>  >You can also use keyboard commands. From grandpa's screen type AW. If
>
>> you have the book, the instructions begin on page 85. The book,
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Re: [LegacyUG] Event Description search

[Deborah Trounstine]

Tagging the results - most excellent, Roger!
Thanks,
Deborah

Roger Jarrett wrote:
> Search->View Search List
>
> This brings up the previous search results. You could also tag the results 
> and then rotate thru the tagged records.
>
> Regards
> Roger
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Deborah Trounstine [mailto:dtrounst...@comcast.net]
> Sent: Friday, 8 January 2010 12:40 p.m.
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Description search
>
> It works perfectly for me. I have over 4600 individuals in one of my files 
> and it brought up the 77 people who have events but no description. Pretty 
> cool! (Build 109) What I can't figure out is how to keep the search list I 
> just created from disappearing when I click on one of the names. Anybody know?
>
>
> Mike Fry wrote:
>
>> Jenny M Benson said the following on 2010/01/08 00:09:
>>
>>
>>> Mike Fry wrote
>>>
>>>
>>>>> I'm afraid that brings up every event. Blank or otherwise
>>>>>
>>>>> Search
>>>>> Detailed Search Tab
>>>>> Look for Whom?  Individual
>>>>> Where to Look?  Event-Description
>>>>> How to Look?  Equal to
>>>>> What to look for?  [Leave it blank]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Try again Mark! Don't type exactly what Connie wrote. As she said,
>>>> leave the last part of the condition empty: no spaces nothing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I agree that is what should happen, but I tried it with my file and
>>> it didn't work:  brought up every record.  I know there was at least
>>> one record with a blank Description because I created it just for this test.
>>>
>>>
>> Mine works with build 109. File of 5500 individuals. Above selects 162
>> of them. What more can I say? :-)
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Re: [LegacyUG] Event Description search

[Deborah Trounstine]

It works perfectly for me. I have over 4600 individuals in one of my
files and it brought up the 77 people who have events but no
description. Pretty cool! (Build 109)
What I can't figure out is how to keep the search list I just created
from disappearing when I click on one of the names. Anybody know?


Mike Fry wrote:
> Jenny M Benson said the following on 2010/01/08 00:09:
>
>> Mike Fry wrote
>>
 I'm afraid that brings up every event. Blank or otherwise

 Search
 Detailed Search Tab
 Look for Whom?  Individual
 Where to Look?  Event-Description
 How to Look?  Equal to
 What to look for?  [Leave it blank]

>>> Try again Mark! Don't type exactly what Connie wrote. As she said,
>>> leave the last part of the condition empty: no spaces nothing.
>>>
>> I agree that is what should happen, but I tried it with my file and it
>> didn't work:  brought up every record.  I know there was at least one
>> record with a blank Description because I created it just for this test.
>>
>
> Mine works with build 109. File of 5500 individuals. Above selects 162 of
> them. What more can I say? :-)
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Re: [LegacyUG] Basic Format?

[Deborah Trounstine]

Thanks, Connie. You've been a great help :)
~Deborah

Connie Sheets wrote:
> Deborah,
>
> ISBN numbers and the total number of pages in a book are not part of standard 
> citation practices.  The specific page number(s) of your citation are on the 
> details screen.  (I'm not sure which you are referring to).
>
> If you are using a revised edition, you will want to use the revised edition 
> template (Step 1), and then you will see a field for the edition number.  
> Publication date is part of all the book templates as far as I know (there 
> are so many permutations possible I admittedly didn't check them).  Be sure 
> to scroll all the way down as on some of the templates the fields do not all 
> fit on one screen.  I think there is an option you can check to remind you of 
> this, but I turned mine off.
>
> Connie
>
>
> Deborah Trounstine wrote:
>
>
>> Hi Connie,
>> What you describe is the way I've been using the medium
>> "basic format"
>> too. I guess I was looking for more details for a complete
>> citation -
>> like year of publication, number of pages, edition, ISBN
>> number, etc. I
>> think the way you have been modifying the template to fit
>> your needs
>> makes the most sense.
>> Thanks!
>> Deborah
>>
>> Connie Sheets wrote:
>>
>>> Deborah,
>>>
>>> In Sourcewriter, the "basic format" is one of the
>>>
>> choices under "Medium," i.e. is it an online image, a CD, a
>> microfilm, etc.  Yes, I use it for real books (hard
>> copies).  I also use it in other situations where I
>> don't think the other choices quite fit.  (It has
>> nothing to do with the Basic Source system, as far as I can
>> tell).
>>
>>> In the case of books, at least, I have found the
>>>
>> "basic format" almost always includes the necessary
>> information, or that I could easily modify it to do so (e.g.
>> by leaving some fields blank or placing certain data in
>> other fields).  Can you give an example of what you
>> believe is missing?
>>
>>> Connie
>>>
>>> --- On Thu, 1/7/10, Deborah Trounstine 
>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> When entering a source using the
>>>> SourceWriter, can someone tell me what
>>>> they mean by "Basic format"
>>>> e.g. Books > Book, authored > Two authors
>>>>
>>> Basic
>>>
>>>> format
>>>> I have been assuming that Basic format means that
>>>>
>> you have
>>
>>>> (or have
>>>> viewed) a hard copy of the book, but the form that
>>>>
>> is
>>
>>>> provided in SW
>>>> doesn't really contain spaces for all of the
>>>>
>> citation
>>
>>>> details that I
>>>> would expect. This "Basic format" shows up in a
>>>>
>> number of
>>
>>>> the source
>>>> templates but this happens to be one that I'm
>>>>
>> looking at
>>
>>>> right now.
>>>> Any help with this - or suggestions on a better
>>>>
>> source
>>
>>>> "medium" to
>>>> choose if you have a hard copy of the source will
>>>>
>> be
>>
>>>> appreciated!
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Deborah
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Basic Format?

[Deborah Trounstine]

Hi Connie,
What you describe is the way I've been using the medium "basic format"
too. I guess I was looking for more details for a complete citation -
like year of publication, number of pages, edition, ISBN number, etc. I
think the way you have been modifying the template to fit your needs
makes the most sense.
Thanks!
Deborah

Connie Sheets wrote:
> Deborah,
>
> In Sourcewriter, the "basic format" is one of the choices under "Medium," 
> i.e. is it an online image, a CD, a microfilm, etc.  Yes, I use it for real 
> books (hard copies).  I also use it in other situations where I don't think 
> the other choices quite fit.  (It has nothing to do with the Basic Source 
> system, as far as I can tell).
>
> In the case of books, at least, I have found the "basic format" almost always 
> includes the necessary information, or that I could easily modify it to do so 
> (e.g. by leaving some fields blank or placing certain data in other fields).  
> Can you give an example of what you believe is missing?
>
> Connie
>
> --- On Thu, 1/7/10, Deborah Trounstine  wrote:
>
>
>> When entering a source using the
>> SourceWriter, can someone tell me what
>> they mean by "Basic format"
>> e.g. Books > Book, authored > Two authors > Basic
>> format
>> I have been assuming that Basic format means that you have
>> (or have
>> viewed) a hard copy of the book, but the form that is
>> provided in SW
>> doesn't really contain spaces for all of the citation
>> details that I
>> would expect. This "Basic format" shows up in a number of
>> the source
>> templates but this happens to be one that I'm looking at
>> right now.
>> Any help with this - or suggestions on a better source
>> "medium" to
>> choose if you have a hard copy of the source will be
>> appreciated!
>> Thanks,
>> Deborah
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Basic Format?

[Deborah Trounstine]

Hi Richard,
I appreciate your assistance with this but maybe I wasn't clear enough.
What I am referring to are the choices that you have WITHIN
SourceWriter. If I go to SW to create a new source - in this case a book
- first I choose "Books" from the Type of Source list, then I use the
drop down list to choose whether the book is authored or edited, then I
select the Type of Author, and then a drop-down box appears that asks me
to Select the Medium. One of the choices of medium is "basic format". My
question is, does "basic format" in this context refer to a hard copy of
the book?


RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote:
> Basic Format is the old sourcing tool, which many of us still use. When 
> creating your next source, do some exploring to compare both. Go to Master 
> Source List, on the right side are a couple check boxes. Choose either Source 
> Writer or Basic System for comparison purposes. When choosing Basic, first 
> you must pick BS, then go to add, the computer asks do you really want to do 
> this.  Say yes to see what is there. You can delete it all afterwards. The 
> short names for these 2 are SW and Basic.
> Rich in LA CA
> .
> - Original Message 
> From: Deborah Trounstine 
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Sent: Wed, January 6, 2010 6:02:39 PM
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Basic Format?
>
> When entering a source using the SourceWriter, can someone tell me what
> they mean by "Basic format"
> e.g. Books > Book, authored > Two authors > Basic format
> I have been assuming that Basic format means that you have (or have
> viewed) a hard copy of the book, but the form that is provided in SW
> doesn't really contain spaces for all of the citation details that I
> would expect. This "Basic format" shows up in a number of the source
> templates but this happens to be one that I'm looking at right now.
> Any help with this - or suggestions on a better source "medium" to
> choose if you have a hard copy of the source will be appreciated!
> Thanks,
> Deborah
>
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[LegacyUG] Basic Format?

[Deborah Trounstine]

When entering a source using the SourceWriter, can someone tell me what
they mean by "Basic format"
e.g. Books > Book, authored > Two authors > Basic format
I have been assuming that Basic format means that you have (or have
viewed) a hard copy of the book, but the form that is provided in SW
doesn't really contain spaces for all of the citation details that I
would expect. This "Basic format" shows up in a number of the source
templates but this happens to be one that I'm looking at right now.
Any help with this - or suggestions on a better source "medium" to
choose if you have a hard copy of the source will be appreciated!
Thanks,
Deborah



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Re: [LegacyUG] Digest mode possible?

[Deborah Trounstine]

Thanks, Dianne & C.G. for getting the "joke" :)
It's so annoying that newbies don't know there is no digest - but on the
other hand, how cool that there are more and more newbies!
Maybe we can designate one person who monitors the list pretty
religiously to respond ONE time to those digest? inquiries and then we
can all get on with the conversation.
Just a suggestion...

Dianne Arnold wrote:
> I believe Deborah was making a joke!
>
> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: C.G. Ouimet [mailto:couim...@cogeco.ca]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 4:49 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digest mode possible?
>
>
> Please note ... No Digest Mode of any kind ...
>
>
> C.G. Ouimet
> Kingston, ON
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Deborah Trounstine [mailto:dtrounst...@comcast.net]
> Sent: Tuesday January-05-10 7:18 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digest mode possible?
>
> Is there any way to get just the questions about digest mode in "digest
> mode"? LOL
>
> Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:
>
>>> People would then be more inclined to read before clicking.
>>>
>>>
>> Surely you jest!
>>
>>
>> Brian in CA
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mike Fry [mailto:mike...@iafrica.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 2:35 PM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digest mode possible?
>>
>> C.G. Ouimet said the following on 2010/01/06 00:24:
>>
>>
>>
>>> This comes up so often. We need something more obvious ...
>>>
>>> Perhaps the check box for Legacy User Group should read "Legacy User
>>> Group (No Digest Available)" ...
>>>
>>>
>> Quite! Perhaps a redesign of the page such that all the information is
>> given first before any selection fields or subscription links are
>> given. People would then be more inclined to read before clicking.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Digest mode possible?

[Deborah Trounstine]

Is there any way to get just the questions about digest mode in "digest
mode"? LOL

Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:
>> People would then be more inclined to read before clicking.
>>
>
> Surely you jest!
>
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> Brian in CA
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> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 2:35 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digest mode possible?
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> C.G. Ouimet said the following on 2010/01/06 00:24:
>
>
>> This comes up so often. We need something more obvious ...
>>
>> Perhaps the check box for Legacy User Group should read "Legacy User Group
>> (No Digest Available)" ...
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Birth Order

[Deborah Trounstine]

In Family View, right-click anywhere in the children's list and select
"children's settings". When the new window with the children's names
pops up, simply click on "Sort". They will now be sorted in order of birth.

Jane Sarles wrote:
> OK, I give up...how does one get the children listed in birth order?
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] LUG Mailing list

[Deborah Trounstine]

You appear to have joined fine, Peter. Welcome!

Peter Bottrell wrote:
> Help!
>
> I am attempting to join the above list.  I have proceeded through the
> necessary steps, and have received the email which requests me to
> click on a link specified.
>
> However, there is no link shown, merely a web page address.  That
> address is not accepted by my browser (Mozilla).
>
> Can anyone help, please?
>
>
> Peter John Bottrell
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Re: [LegacyUG] Adding homosexual partner in Legacy.

[Deborah Trounstine]

You're right, Gene! I should have experimented first before offering
advice on entering genders. Since I don't want to get into a banned
subject, I'll just repeat that I would still add them the say way I
would add any other couple and ignore the gender issues til it was time
to print a report or book at which point I would correct the hard copy
text before printing.

Gene Young wrote:
> Deborah Trounstine wrote:
>
>> Hi Luis,
>> I would add a gay partner the same way I would add a spouse or a life
>> companion of the opposite sex.
>>
>
> Legacy will not allow two persons of the same sex to be joined as a
> couple.  One must always be listed as a male and one as a female.  This
> has been discussed to the point of having been banned in the past.
> Please search the archives for more info.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Adding homosexual partner in Legacy.

[Deborah Trounstine]

Hi Luis,
I forgot to add that you can change the gender of any person you've
entered by clicking on their name in Family View and changing the radio
button on the right side of the individual's information box. (It's just
above place of birth if you have trouble locating it).

Deborah Trounstine wrote:
> Hi Luis,
> I would add a gay partner the same way I would add a spouse or a life
> companion of the opposite sex. If you click on where you would enter the
> marriage date (that blank area below the couple that says "marriage
> information") you can fill in when they got together if you want and
> then there are two places where you can define their relationship. One
> is a box that you can check if the couple did not marry. The other is  a
> drop-down box labelled "status" in which you can choose one of the
> default descriptions or add your own like "long-term gay relationship"
> or whatever you like. If they married, then I would treat their status
> the same way I would a hetero couple.
> Hope this helps!
> Deborah
>
> Luis Ramos wrote:
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>> Hello everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> I would like to know how to ADD in Legacy, a homosexual partner to
>> either a man or a female partner.
>>
>> This is not intended to start a discussion as to whether such
>> practices are condoned by anybody, religious or otherwise.
>>
>> This is a technical matter on how to use the Legacy Software.
>>
>>
>>
>> <http://www.facebook.com/luisferramos>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Adding homosexual partner in Legacy.

[Deborah Trounstine]

Hi Luis,
I would add a gay partner the same way I would add a spouse or a life
companion of the opposite sex. If you click on where you would enter the
marriage date (that blank area below the couple that says "marriage
information") you can fill in when they got together if you want and
then there are two places where you can define their relationship. One
is a box that you can check if the couple did not marry. The other is  a
drop-down box labelled "status" in which you can choose one of the
default descriptions or add your own like "long-term gay relationship"
or whatever you like. If they married, then I would treat their status
the same way I would a hetero couple.
Hope this helps!
Deborah

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>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Missing Master Source Text

[Deborah Trounstine]

Thanks, Brian. I think I was the one who sent the repository problem
report in about a month ago. I was just offering Judy some moral
support. This program is so deep and rich that it takes a lot of us
using it in all different ways to sort out the bugs. I love Legacy and
you all on the support staff are so responsive, it's great.

Brian/Support wrote:
> Deborah,
>
> The problem with the selection of the repository clearing the text and
> comments was reported earlier and is recorded in our problem tracking
> system.
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> I have now entered the problem with the Standard Edition as reported by
> Judy. I responded direct to Judy using the ticket she created.
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> Deborah Trounstine wrote:
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>> Hi Judy,
>> I had the same thing happen with a couple of other templates in Deluxe7
>> whenever I tried to enter a repository. All my text would disappear
>> unless I entered the repository BEFORE any text/comments. I couldn't
>> figure out what I was doing wrong for the longest time - until it
>> occurred to me that it was a bug.
>> I did have to laugh tho that you called Brian/Support "Brain". I bet he
>> got a kick out of that :)
>> Happy New Year!
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Re: [LegacyUG] Missing Master Source Text

[Deborah Trounstine]

Hi Judy,
I had the same thing happen with a couple of other templates in Deluxe7
whenever I tried to enter a repository. All my text would disappear
unless I entered the repository BEFORE any text/comments. I couldn't
figure out what I was doing wrong for the longest time - until it
occurred to me that it was a bug.
I did have to laugh tho that you called Brian/Support "Brain". I bet he
got a kick out of that :)
Happy New Year!

Brent and Judy Schultz wrote:
> Thank you everyone! I thought I was going crazy with disappearing text.
> I tried typing in the same piece of information from an obituary four times
> before I even contacted anyone because I thought I was doing something
> wrong. When I figured out it there might be a bigger problem, I did open a
> ticket with Legacy. And I very happy to hear that Brain you were able to
> recreate my problem. THANK YOU  I talked with someone today and they are
> going to have one of the programmers that worked on source writer contact
> me.
>
> Thanks everyone, Judy
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Brian/Support" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 12:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Missing Master Source Text
>
>
> I just tested the Standard Version of Legacy and have confirmed the
> problem. It does not appear to be a problem for the Deluxe Version. I
> will enter a problem report in our problem tracking system for this error.
>
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> Brent and Judy Schultz wrote:
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>> I just added a census record, I went to the person Cyril Vesper and in
>> assigned Source screen, clicked add a New Source under name event, I
>> clicked
>> on the option to use source writer.
>>
>> Step 1 - clicked following boxes
>> Census
>> United States
>> Federal Census Reports
>> 1880 Population Schedule
>> Online Census
>>
>> Step 2 - I only title 1880 Oak Grove, Dodge County, Wisconsin Census -
>> Cyril
>> Vesper 249/250 then added State (Wisconsin) and County (Dodge). All the
>> other fields are either filled in by the program or I left blank.
>> Then I clicked on the text tab.
>> In the text box I entered in the census data:
>>
>> Cyrel Vesper, w, m, 48, married, farmer, VT, Mass, VT; Emma Vesper, w,
>> f, 36, wife, married, keeps house, N. York, N. York, N. York; Lester
>> Vesper,
>> w, m, 12, son, single, at school, Wisc, VT, N. York; Susan Vesper, w, f,
>> 7,
>> dau., single, at school, Wisc, VT, N. York, Herbert Vesper, w, m, 8, son,
>> single, at home, Wisc, Vt; N. York; Martin Hyland, w, f, 11, Mrs.
>> daughter,
>> at school, Wis, Maine, N. York; Nettie Fraun, w, f, 18, servant, single,
>> works in house, Wisc, VT, N. York.
>>
>> Then I clicked save.
>>
>> Step 3 - I didn't add a thing. I just clicked save.
>>
>> Went back into the person's information and clicked on source button. The
>> Assigned Source Screen for Cyril Vesper was displayed. I highlighted the
>> source 1880 Oak Grove, Dodge County, Wisconsin Census- Cyril Vesper
>> 249/259.
>> Under the Master text is the above text data of Cyril Vesper and his
>> family.
>>
>> I clicked edit source.  Then I clicked on the tab Text/Comments and it is
>> empty.
>>
>> Does this help?
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Mike Fry" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 10:58 AM
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Missing Master Source Text
>>
>>
>> Brent and Judy Schultz said the following on 2009/12/31 18:44:
>>
>>
>>> Sorry, I thought I said "newspaper and census."
>>>
>> You did! The problem being that there are numerous templates with the word
>> newspaper in them. Supply the exact information from the Source Template
>> Index
>> and you might get some assistance.
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Missing Master Source Text

[Deborah Trounstine]

I've used the 1880 census template described for many records and find
no bugs in the Deluxe version.
This must have been pretty frustrating for Judy. It's a lot of work to
type in those census records!

Brian/Support wrote:
> I just tested the Standard Version of Legacy and have confirmed the
> problem. It does not appear to be a problem for the Deluxe Version. I
> will enter a problem report in our problem tracking system for this error.
>
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> Brent and Judy Schultz wrote:
>
>> I just added a census record, I went to the person Cyril Vesper and in
>> assigned Source screen, clicked add a New Source under name event, I clicked
>> on the option to use source writer.
>>
>> Step 1 - clicked following boxes
>> Census
>> United States
>> Federal Census Reports
>> 1880 Population Schedule
>> Online Census
>>
>> Step 2 - I only title 1880 Oak Grove, Dodge County, Wisconsin Census - Cyril
>> Vesper 249/250 then added State (Wisconsin) and County (Dodge). All the
>> other fields are either filled in by the program or I left blank.
>> Then I clicked on the text tab.
>> In the text box I entered in the census data:
>>
>> Cyrel Vesper, w, m, 48, married, farmer, VT, Mass, VT; Emma Vesper, w,
>> f, 36, wife, married, keeps house, N. York, N. York, N. York; Lester Vesper,
>> w, m, 12, son, single, at school, Wisc, VT, N. York; Susan Vesper, w, f, 7,
>> dau., single, at school, Wisc, VT, N. York, Herbert Vesper, w, m, 8, son,
>> single, at home, Wisc, Vt; N. York; Martin Hyland, w, f, 11, Mrs. daughter,
>> at school, Wis, Maine, N. York; Nettie Fraun, w, f, 18, servant, single,
>> works in house, Wisc, VT, N. York.
>>
>> Then I clicked save.
>>
>> Step 3 - I didn't add a thing. I just clicked save.
>>
>> Went back into the person's information and clicked on source button. The
>> Assigned Source Screen for Cyril Vesper was displayed. I highlighted the
>> source 1880 Oak Grove, Dodge County, Wisconsin Census- Cyril Vesper 249/259.
>> Under the Master text is the above text data of Cyril Vesper and his family.
>>
>> I clicked edit source.  Then I clicked on the tab Text/Comments and it is
>> empty.
>>
>> Does this help?
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Mike Fry" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 10:58 AM
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Missing Master Source Text
>>
>>
>> Brent and Judy Schultz said the following on 2009/12/31 18:44:
>>
>>
>>> Sorry, I thought I said "newspaper and census."
>>>
>> You did! The problem being that there are numerous templates with the word
>> newspaper in them. Supply the exact information from the Source Template
>> Index
>> and you might get some assistance.
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Copying people

[Deborah Trounstine]

Mary, that is simply brilliant! Best tip I've learned while reading LUG.
Thanks,
Deborah

Mary Trogg wrote:
> Legacy tips Sept 26, 2008
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> Question from a Legacy user,
>
> /Can I do a Split Screen View with the Internet as one of the screens?/
>
> Great question! Yes, you can do this with Legacy. It sure makes it nice
> to be able to see both your Legacy data /and/ the Internet at the same
> time. Follow these step-by-step instructions.
>
>1.
>   With Legacy 6/7 open, click on the *View* menu, then click on
>   *Split Screen View*.
>2.
>   Click *No*. Two copies of your family file are now visible,
>   side-by-side.
>3.
>   On one of the sides, click on the *Legacy Home* tab.
>4.
>   In the *Address* field, type in the website you want to view and
>   click *Go*. (Of course, you need to be connected to the Internet
>   first.)
>
> You can now browse the Internet on the right side. When you locate
> information, you can copy and paste it into your Legacy file on the left
> side.
>
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> Jane Sarles wrote:
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>> The split screen is a very neat feature.  I wonder if one might use it
>> in a manner other than with 2 screens of Legacy?  For example, if I am
>> copying information from a site of Family Search 1800 census - can I
>> get the census screen up as one-half of the screen?  When I try to
>> close one-half of the split screen, it just reverts to full screen
>> again.  I know I can reduce the size of the legacy screen and also the
>> Family Search screen, but I just wondered if there was a more elegant
>> method of putting the two screens side-by-side?
>>
>> I
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Re: [LegacyUG] Adding Sources

[Deborah Trounstine]

Hey Dennis!
No apology needed. I was curious because I used to use Generations and I
thought TMG was some iteration of that. It was a good program that just
disappeared. One of the best parts was their photo editing programming
that was sort of a precursor to Photoshop Elements.
Thanks for your reply,
Deborah



Dennis Sutton wrote:
> Sorry Deborah.  TMG is The Master Genealogist, another genealogy program.
>
> Dennis
>
> 
> *From:* Deborah Trounstine 
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Sent:* Tue, December 29, 2009 9:32:22 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Adding Sources
>
> Okay, I give. What is TMG?
>
> Ron Ferguson wrote:
> > Dennis,
> >
> > Probably not in the same way as with TMG, but there is the Source
> Clipboard
> > which allows the same Master Source to be used for multiple events
> and for
> > the Source Detail to be amended. Comprehensive details on its use
> are in the
> > Help Files.
> >
> > Ron Ferguson
> > _
> >
> > Create your Website with Legacy, see Tutorials at:
> > http://www.fergys.co.uk
> > Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
> > http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> > For The Fergusons of N.W. England
> > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> > 
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Dennis Sutton
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> <mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com>
> > Sent: 30 December 2009 01:42
> > Subject: [LegacyUG] Adding Sources
> >
> >
> > In TMG there is a capability of copying a source, which when
> selected would
> > add a duplicate of that source to the master source list.  You can
> then go
> > in and edit that source making it whatever you want.  For instance,
> I have a
> > Census source for 1920, Warren Co., NJ.  I want to add a source for
> 1920,
> > Sussex Co., NJ.  I can just copy the Warren Co. source and than edit to
> > Sussex Co.  Can this be done in Legacy?  Hope I made myself clear on
> what
> > I'm looking for.  Thanks, Dennis
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Re: [LegacyUG] Adding Sources

[Deborah Trounstine]

Okay, I give. What is TMG?

Ron Ferguson wrote:
> Dennis,
>
> Probably not in the same way as with TMG, but there is the Source Clipboard
> which allows the same Master Source to be used for multiple events and for
> the Source Detail to be amended. Comprehensive details on its use are in the
> Help Files.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> _
>
> Create your Website with Legacy, see Tutorials at:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk
> Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> 
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Dennis Sutton
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Sent: 30 December 2009 01:42
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Adding Sources
>
>
> In TMG there is a capability of copying a source, which when selected would
> add a duplicate of that source to the master source list.  You can then go
> in and edit that source making it whatever you want.  For instance, I have a
> Census source for 1920, Warren Co., NJ.  I want to add a source for 1920,
> Sussex Co., NJ.  I can just copy the Warren Co. source and than edit to
> Sussex Co.  Can this be done in Legacy?  Hope I made myself clear on what
> I'm looking for.  Thanks, Dennis
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Basic Sources v. SourceWriter

[Deborah Trounstine]

Hi Lucy,
When I create my new SW source, I copy and paste from my original old
source. Then I copy and paste any detail from the old source into the
detail section of SW as well. Fortunately for me, I didn't know how to
use "detail" so I have had very little of that to move over to the new
type of source.
I don't know how the L-tools program works but I have purchased it and
plan to try it on a test source to see. Someone suggested that as a
solution.
Deborah

Lucy Abbott wrote:
> This is a question that I had also and was very interested in the
> replies. I have looked at steps from Deborah but have a question.
> I see that you have the New Master Source and can delete the Old
> Master Source but what about the Source Detail that was part of the
> old source citation for each individual where you used the Old Master
> Source.  This is different for each individual and I don't see
> anything that brings that over ?
>
> Lucy
>
> --------
> *From:* Deborah Trounstine 
> 1. create your new SW source
> 2. go to View > Master Lists > Source
> 3. find your original "old" source in basic format and select it
> 4. click on "show list" - you will see a list of all the people attached
> to that source.
> 5. (very important) decide what # tag you want to use for this exercise,
> make sure it's showing in the "Individual tag:" box - then click "Untag
> Everyone in File". This will clear all the tags of that number in your
> file.
> 6. then, on the same screen, click "tag everyone in list". This will tag
> all of the people that you want associated with your new SW source.
> 7. close that window and get back to your main screen.
> 8. go to Tools > Advanced Sourcing
> 9. on the "which records to use" tab, select "Assign to all individuals
> with tag: (whatever # tag you chose in step 6 above)
> 10. on the "where to assign citations" tab, select "Assign Citations to
> individual information" and "specific fields" and chose which field/s
> you want this source assigned to
> 11. then, click on the "Source Clipboard" button
> 12. when that opens, you will see "step 1: click here to select or
> change the master source to cite" - click!
> 13. highlight and select your NEW SW source that you want to assign to
> all these people, add any detail that you want and click save
> 14. now you should be back at the source clipboard window - click "apply"
> 15. all of your individuals now have the new source in the fields that
> you chose.
> If you want to no longer have any reference to your original "old"
> source in these files:
> 16. return to View > Master Lists > Source
> 17. find your "old" source and click "show list"
> 18. choose "delete this master source and all citations to it"
> And you're done :)
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Re: [LegacyUG] Basic Sources v. SourceWriter

[Deborah Trounstine]

I agree with you all about having better things to do with my time, but
I have to say that since I decided to move all my sources (well over
1000) to SourceWriter, I have learned so much more, cleaned up mistakes
I made 12 years ago when I started researching and set up a consistent
system so I can find sources easily (and so can the lucky kid that
inherits this project). The same thing has happened in the past when
I've gone through my hard copy files and discovered, for instance, that
there were add'l folks on those census pages that I didn't originally
know were related to the family.
I've put so much time and money into this research, I believe I deserve
to have an accurate and truly useful finished product.
Deborah

Marilyn Clark wrote:
> Connie,
>
> I agree with you! I just spent the last month trying to clean up my 718 ugly 
> and inadequate sources that were caused by moving from a shareware genealogy 
> program to Legacy. Importing the sources via GEDCOM caused a big mess and the 
> sourcing was awful. I am down to 239 sources now, about half are in the nice 
> SW format. My last big push will be to consolidate SSDI sources, then US 
> Census. Then I quit!! The rest of them can sit around until I have more time. 
> I want to do research, not housekeeping.
>
> That said, my perfectionist personality keeps nagging me to "fix" this!! The 
> one plus from all this work is that I'm correcting a few errors and becoming 
> familiar with my database again, after a couple years away from it.
>
> Marilyn
>
>
> --- On Tue, 12/29/09, Connie Sheets  wrote:
>
>
>> From: Connie Sheets 
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Basic Sources v. SourceWriter
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 12:56 PM
>> Angelique Welch 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I was wondering what everyone else was doing with
>>>
>> their
>>
>>> "older" sources
>>> that were made with the basic source templates from
>>>
>> older
>>
>>> versions, are
>>> you keeping them just the way they are? Or, are you
>>> changing them over
>>> to the SourceWriter? If so, what is the easiest way
>>>
>> of
>>
>>> doing this?
>>>
>>>
>> My database was originally started in a different program
>> back in the 1980s.  I have much better uses for my time
>> than trying to go back and update every source citation.
>>
>> I update them a few at a time when I'm working again on an
>> individual or a particular family group.
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Basic Sources v. SourceWriter

[Deborah Trounstine]

Hi Angelique,
If I understand correctly, you want to re-write your old sources using
the SW format and then attach all of the same people that you had
attached to the previous old source. Here are the steps I've been
taking. (If someone else has a better method, I'm sure they'll pipe up)
1. create your new SW source
2. go to View > Master Lists > Source
3. find your original "old" source in basic format and select it
4. click on "show list" - you will see a list of all the people attached
to that source.
5. (very important) decide what # tag you want to use for this exercise,
make sure it's showing in the "Individual tag:" box - then click "Untag
Everyone in File". This will clear all the tags of that number in your file.
6. then, on the same screen, click "tag everyone in list". This will tag
all of the people that you want associated with your new SW source.
7. close that window and get back to your main screen.
8. go to Tools > Advanced Sourcing
9. on the "which records to use" tab, select "Assign to all individuals
with tag: (whatever # tag you chose in step 6 above)
10. on the "where to assign citations" tab, select "Assign Citations to
individual information" and "specific fields" and chose which field/s
you want this source assigned to
11. then, click on the "Source Clipboard" button
12. when that opens, you will see "step 1: click here to select or
change the master source to cite" - click!
13. highlight and select your NEW SW source that you want to assign to
all these people, add any detail that you want and click save
14. now you should be back at the source clipboard window - click "apply"
15. all of your individuals now have the new source in the fields that
you chose.
If you want to no longer have any reference to your original "old"
source in these files:
16. return to View > Master Lists > Source
17. find your "old" source and click "show list"
18. choose "delete this master source and all citations to it"
And you're done :)
I know this looks like a lot of steps but once you've done it a couple
of times it takes no time at all. Especially compared to finding and
opening all those individual records to add the source one person at a
time. I've done this process to add a single source to 150 people at
once and it works great.
It might be a good idea to try a test first (you can always delete your
test source and all citations to it).
If you have any problems, let me know.
If anyone knows of a faster way to do this - yay!
Deborah


Marvin & Angelique Welch wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I was wondering what everyone else was doing with their "older" sources
> that were made with the basic source templates from older versions, are
> you keeping them just the way they are? Or, are you changing them over
> to the SourceWriter? If so, what is the easiest way of doing this?
>
> I have been slowly re-adding my sources using SourceWriter one at a
> time, but there has to be an easier way of associating that older source
> with the newer one so I don't have to reconnect to each person again.
>
> I tried making a "mock" source with the basic format, connecting it to
> 1-2 people and also creating another "mock" source using SourceWriter
> and then combining them to see if that would be an easier way of
> connecting the people to the source. But it would not allow me to
> combine them.
>
> When the 7.0 was created, was there any discussion about how users could
> convert their older sources to the newer SourceWriter format?
>
> Thanks for any help on this
>
> Angelique
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[LegacyUG] Print timeline?

[Deborah Trounstine]

Hi Kids!
Hope you all had a good holiday.
Does anyone know if it's possible to print the timeline that is created
in the first step of Research Guidance? It's possible to print the to-do
list that you create under this tab but I can't figure out how to print
the timeline.
Thanks,
Deborah



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Re: [LegacyUG] New Question

[Deborah Trounstine]

Hi Shirley,
No, there isn't a digest list. We just hashed this to death less than a
week ago. Check the archives (the url is below) for all the discussion.
I don't think any of us want to talk about this again right now. You'll
see in the archives that a number of people recommended directing your
LUG emails to a separate folder in your email program. I did and it's
great because I can sort them by subject. If you've got Firefox's
Thunderbird email client, I'd be glad to tell you exactly how to do this ;)
Glad to see you on the LUG - it's an amazing place for really useful info.
All the best,
Deborah

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> e-mails?  If so, how do I change how I receive my LUG list?  I did try
> FAQ's, but if it is there, I don't see it.
>
> Thanks
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Re: [LegacyUG] How long have you used Legacy?

[Deborah Trounstine]

Wow - a pre-release of v.1? That is so cool!

ma...@mcmahon.com wrote:
> I actually have version 1 on floppy disks.  Ken gave a presentation to our 
> Boeing Genealogy group and made available (I think for $30) a prerelease 
> version.
>
> Marty McMahon in Washington
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 4:18 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] How long have you used Legacy?
>
> Legacy v2 was the first release to the general public in 1997.  I still have 
> the original floppy disks from that release.  I became part of the Legacy 
> Support team in Sept 2002.
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> -Original Message-
> From: Margaret Turner [mailto:mgroga...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 2:56 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How long have you used Legacy?
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> Hmm I think I started with Legacy 1. I lost many early emails once
> upon a time with a computer crash.
>
> :)
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> Margaret
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> On 21/12/2009, Deborah Trounstine  wrote:
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>> Was that the original version of Legacy, Margaret?
>>
>> Margaret Turner wrote:
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>>> I am slowly changing and learning begining with names, standard events
>>> and "head" photos.
>>>
>>> Slowly moving with census images, documents (certificates,
>>> transcripts, military, electoral rolls, ..).
>>>
>>> :) :)
>>>
>>> Margaret
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Re: [LegacyUG] How long have you used Legacy?

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Was that the original version of Legacy, Margaret?

Margaret Turner wrote:
> I've been a happy Legacy user since 1998 perhasp 1997.
> I am slowly changing and learning begining with names, standard events
> and "head" photos.
>
> Slowly moving with census images, documents (certificates,
> transcripts, military, electoral rolls, ..).
>
> :) :)
>
> Margaret
>
> On 21/12/2009, Deborah Trounstine  wrote:
>
>> Good point, Helen. I agree that working with the program has given me a
>> good idea of what I DON'T know and need to learn.
>> The biggest problem that I have created for myself is in how I manage my
>> events and my sourcing. I could have made a plan for how I was going to
>> do this if I'd studied Legacy more before I plunged in with a huge
>> family file. A good example of this is just deciding how you're going to
>> enter the census data, or newspaper articles. By individual person, by
>> date, by title? If you decide before you start, then it's easy to find
>> the items and you have consistency for reports.
>> I came to Legacy after using a less sophisticated program and just
>> continued my old habits. So I revise my advice. It's a good idea to
>> familiarize yourself with the program but before you do any _major_
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>>> have a good feel for what they all do. Many thanks to the person who
>>> pointed out Picture Centre. It is excellent. I spent a couple of hours
>>> last night going through it and saved a good amount of space on my
>>> crowded hard drive.
>>>
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>>> of asking questions when the answers are in front of your nose. And
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>>> explored the program, I wouldn't be asking these questions.
>>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] How long have you used Legacy?

[Deborah Trounstine]

Good point, Helen. I agree that working with the program has given me a
good idea of what I DON'T know and need to learn.
The biggest problem that I have created for myself is in how I manage my
events and my sourcing. I could have made a plan for how I was going to
do this if I'd studied Legacy more before I plunged in with a huge
family file. A good example of this is just deciding how you're going to
enter the census data, or newspaper articles. By individual person, by
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I came to Legacy after using a less sophisticated program and just
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familiarize yourself with the program but before you do any _major_
entry work, it's a good idea to learn how Legacy works best. We all
spend so much time and money researching, it seems worthwhile to learn
to use the software so that re-doing our entry work doesn't become a
another huge expenditure when it doesn't have to.
Oh, and ditto from me on the embarrassment! :)

ci...@treadles.ca wrote:
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> meaningless until you've tried out the program and get a feel for how it
> works. Of course by that time, you're familiar with everything and don't
> bother checking what all the bells and whistles do.
>
> My New Year's resolution is to try out every last entry in all the
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> have a good feel for what they all do. Many thanks to the person who
> pointed out Picture Centre. It is excellent. I spent a couple of hours
> last night going through it and saved a good amount of space on my
> crowded hard drive.
>
> Another advantage is that it will spare you the personal embarrassment
> of asking questions when the answers are in front of your nose. And
> thank you everyone for being tactful enough not to mention that if I'd
> explored the program, I wouldn't be asking these questions.
>
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[LegacyUG] How long have you used Legacy?

[Deborah Trounstine]

I mentioned in a message yesterday that I'd been using Legacy for a
couple of years - well, hold the phone!
I just ran across my first password for Deluxe Legacy v.4. I've been
using Legacy since September 2003 - for more than 6 years. Time sure
flies when you're having fun, eh?
One would think that, in all that time, I might have read the help
files, watched the training videos or even looked at the sample file.
Nope, not til this week :)
If you're new to Legacy - or even an "I'll just do it intuitively"
long-time user like me, my one piece of New Year's advice would be to do
all of the above and save yourself a lot of time and trouble.
Happy Holidays, Everybody!
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Re: [LegacyUG] Bridging Gaps

[Deborah Trounstine]

I do the same thing Heather does. I enter a "Father Jones" and then put
all the known Jones siblings in as his children. Otherwise, I don't see
how you can show them as siblings and a whole united family line is not
properly accounted for. Later on, of course, I hope to find out who
Father and Mother Jones are!
Deborah

Heather Stovold wrote:
> Well on this one - if you are sure they are siblings (which I have
> had) - then you know there is a Father.  In most cases you even know
> what his last name is likely to be, so I don't see why it is a big
> deal to create the father.
>
> For instance, if you have Brother and Sister  - John Brown and Jane
> Brown - then it is no big deal to create a father with the last name
> Brown, and no other information, the mother is unknown - and you enter
> the kids John and Jane under them.
>
> I did have an instance of Brother whose last name was McCaslin, and a
> Sister (still single) whose last name on the records I had found so
> far was just listed as Caslin.   I entered the father with a last name
> of Caslin, and did an AKA of McCaslin.
>
> hope that helps a bit!
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 9:53 PM,  > wrote:
>
>
> Another simple case is a line headed by someone with a sibling.
> The only ways I know to generate a descendancy chart/report
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Re: [LegacyUG] Assigned sources for: (what are these?)

[Deborah Trounstine]

Bill,
As you're fixing all your sources, are you sticking with the Basic
system or moving them to SourceWriter?
I've been converting all of mine to SW but find that I occasionally need
to do some file maintenance to keep everything working properly. Since
Legacy added SW, I'm assuming that, going forward, it will be the format
more favored. What do you think?
Thanks,
Deborah

William H. Boswell wrote:
> Only if I have a source to add to them.  I generally leave it checked all the 
> time because if it is unchecked and you delete a source, that event will 
> disappear.  Since I am in the process of a major cleanup of my data file 
> (GEDCOM import to Legacy), I'm having to fix all of my sources, delete the 
> old citations and replace with the fixed one with images.  When I delete the 
> old citation, it will keep me in the spot where I need to paste the new one 
> using the source clipboard.
>
> If you uncheck the "Show All Events" you will notice that the unused ones 
> will disappear and only show the events that are in use.  I guess you can say 
> these unused items are just placeholders for new information if you need to 
> use them.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Deborah Trounstine [mailto:dtrounst...@comcast.net]
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 8:53 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Assigned sources for: (what are these?)
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> Thanks, William. Do you know what they mean? Do you assign any sources
> to them?
>
> William H. Boswell wrote:
>
>> They show up when you have "Show All Events" selected.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Deborah Trounstine [mailto:dtrounst...@comcast.net]
>> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 8:36 PM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Assigned sources for: (what are these?)
>>
>> In the "Assigned Sources for:" window, near the bottom of the list are:
>> "Child Status:
>> Father rel:
>> Mother rel:"
>> What are Father rel and Mother rel?
>> AND why does my source window show:
>> "Marr: Flo Williams
>> Had no children: Flo Williams
>> Did not marry: Flo Williams
>> Mar Notes: Flo Williams"
>> Flo Williams WAS married and had 13 children - all of the info for her
>> parents, siblings, husband, marriage and kids are entered and show up on
>> reports properly.
>> What are these used for? Are there some sources that I should be
>> assigning to these?
>> I hope these questions are not too elementary for LUG. I did attempt to
>> find the answers in the Help file before asking.
>> Thanks!
>> Deborah
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Re: [LegacyUG] Assigned sources for: (what are these?)

[Deborah Trounstine]

Thanks, William. Do you know what they mean? Do you assign any sources
to them?

William H. Boswell wrote:
> They show up when you have "Show All Events" selected.
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Deborah Trounstine [mailto:dtrounst...@comcast.net]
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 8:36 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Assigned sources for: (what are these?)
>
> In the "Assigned Sources for:" window, near the bottom of the list are:
> "Child Status:
> Father rel:
> Mother rel:"
> What are Father rel and Mother rel?
> AND why does my source window show:
> "Marr: Flo Williams
> Had no children: Flo Williams
> Did not marry: Flo Williams
> Mar Notes: Flo Williams"
> Flo Williams WAS married and had 13 children - all of the info for her
> parents, siblings, husband, marriage and kids are entered and show up on
> reports properly.
> What are these used for? Are there some sources that I should be
> assigning to these?
> I hope these questions are not too elementary for LUG. I did attempt to
> find the answers in the Help file before asking.
> Thanks!
> Deborah
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[LegacyUG] Assigned sources for: (what are these?)

[Deborah Trounstine]

In the "Assigned Sources for:" window, near the bottom of the list are:
"Child Status:
Father rel:
Mother rel:"
What are Father rel and Mother rel?
AND why does my source window show:
"Marr: Flo Williams
Had no children: Flo Williams
Did not marry: Flo Williams
Mar Notes: Flo Williams"
Flo Williams WAS married and had 13 children - all of the info for her
parents, siblings, husband, marriage and kids are entered and show up on
reports properly.
What are these used for? Are there some sources that I should be
assigning to these?
I hope these questions are not too elementary for LUG. I did attempt to
find the answers in the Help file before asking.
Thanks!
Deborah



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Re: [LegacyUG] Add an Event "Census" to Everyone

[Deborah Trounstine]

Thanks for pointing out my html text, Margaret. I hope I've fixed the
problem. If not, please let me know asap.
Helen, you've made me feel better knowing I have some company in the
"just ignore that events section" blues. I've never been one to read the
manual but the older I get the more it appears that it's a good idea.
Your tips on the photos are terrific. I haven't started labeling the
ones I've scanned in yet - so this gives me a chance to do it right the
first time.
I guess since I have to go through each person and move the census
anyway, it doesn't matter whether there's a global way to set up and
event (like Census) for everyone in one move.

ci...@treadles.ca wrote:
> Hi Deborah,
>
>  >The only solution I've come up with is to create an event for each
>  > individual called "census" and then assign the census records to that
>  >event.
>
>   That's how I do it - now! I started off by ignoring the Events section,
> assigning all pictures of censuses, B,M & D registrations, etc.  to the
> general category for the person and all the printed census records to
> the general notes. It made everything too difficult to read and keep
> track of, so I'm in the midst of changing everything to the event
> category, no small task with over 5000 people to do.
>
> Most importantly though, do be careful how you name your pictures. I
> started off by naming them, for example,
>   John Henry Peter Smith birth.jpg   or
>   JHP Smith birth.jpg   and
>   1891 census-JHP Smith.jpg
>
> With the huge number of Johns, Henrys and Williams on the list of
> document images, the files area was a real mess.
>
> What a dough-head I was! Who is the most important factor in genealogy?
> the person, of course.
>
> So now I'm in the process of renaming all the images as
>Smith John Henry Peter birth.jpg  and
>Smith John Henry Peter-1891 census.jpg
>
> Women are named with their maiden surname for photos taken before
> marriage, for example, a baby picture, but as an adult with their spouse
> and children, I name them   Jones Smith Mary Jane-th.jpg
>
> It makes it much easier when checking the files area on my hard drive,
> to see what I have and don't have for each person, but again, what a
> chore renaming and reassigning all the images.
>
> When I have actual photos of the person, I make a 33 dpi by 50 dpi
> cropped photo and name it - Smith John Henry Peter-th.jpg. that way, I
> can search the files for "th" and find out instantly who I have
> photographs for and who I don't.
>
> Helen
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Re: [LegacyUG] Add an Event "Census" to Everyone

[Deborah Trounstine]

That sounds like a really good method, Margaret. Boy, do I wish I'd
started out that way - before I had 4600 individuals in my file.
I started out with the old Generations program and then moved to Legacy
about 2 years ago. I love Legacy, but of course imported from my old
program rather than entering everyone by hand. I suppose this happens
to plenty of us, eh?
Thanks for the clear explanation of how you manage census records!
Deborah

Margaret Turner wrote:

  Deborah,

I have a Legacy event called "Census"
  enter the Date (year)  and place (city/suburb, state/county, country).

In the notes I put for example: (generally copied from ancestry.com)
St. Oswald Street.
Civil parish: 	West Derby
County/Island: 	Lancashire
Country: 	England
John Oliver
Name:  	John Oliver, Age:  55, Estimated Birth Year:  abt 1796
Relation: 	Head
Spouse's Name: 	Mary
Gender: 	Male
Where born:  Burton, Cheshire, England
Household Members:
Name 	Age
John Oliver 	55 Clerk of St. Oswald's Church
Mary Oliver 	52
William Oliver 	24 Joiner
Agness Oliver 	17
Robert Oliver 	15 Office Boy
Joseph Oliver 	13 Scholar
Mary Oliver 	11 Scholar
Francis Oliver 	8  Scholar

I click on the "image" icon for that event to attach the census image
I had previously downloaded from ancestry.com).
I click on the house/phone icon to enter in the street no and street address
   (Address list/ if not already an address, Add or if present select
the appropriate address)
I click on the source icon (generally swith a simple title eg "UK 1851 Census".

I click on the copy icon.

I go to each other individual named on the census
Add Event
Click on the past icon.

I have then one event per person per census event.

:)

Margaret

On 19/12/2009, Deborah Trounstine  wrote:
  
  
I have been assigning all of my census records to the event category
"unspecified" in the Assigned Sources window for each individual.
However, when I started using GedView on my iPhone today, I realized
that none of these census records sources were exported via gedcom.
This has caused me to reconsider how I'm assigning census sources. The
only solution I've come up with is to create an event for each
individual called "census" and then assign the census records to that event.
Is this the best way to assign census records as sources?
What event or category do other people use to assign census records?
Is is possible to add an event (census) to all the people in my file at
one time?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Deborah



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[LegacyUG] Add an Event "Census" to Everyone

[Deborah Trounstine]

I have been assigning all of my census records to the event category
"unspecified" in the Assigned Sources window for each individual.
However, when I started using GedView on my iPhone today, I realized
that none of these census records sources were exported via gedcom.
This has caused me to reconsider how I'm assigning census sources. The
only solution I've come up with is to create an event for each
individual called "census" and then assign the census records to that event.
Is this the best way to assign census records as sources?
What event or category do other people use to assign census records?
Is is possible to add an event (census) to all the people in my file at
one time?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Deborah



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Re: [LegacyUG] Drop Box & GenView App for Ipod Touch

[Deborah Trounstine]

This is my first post, so please be kind :)
Thanks to the mentions here on LUG, I downloaded GedView to my iPhone
this morning. It's amazing, well worth the $3.99 and it works perfectly
with Legacy. I'm going to use it for all my field research from now on.
I've been lurking on this list for a while now and want to thank
everyone for their great tips. I've already learned so much from you
all.
Deborah

Norman Weston wrote:

  Sorry, I think the App name is GedView

2009/12/18 Leon Chapman :
  
  
I don't seem to find an application for the iPhone called GenViewer.
Genviewer does work on Windows, but I have not seen the application for the
iPhone.

I use FamViewer for the the iPhone.
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