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[Bug 103381] [META] Pivot table (aka Data Pilot) bugs and enhancements
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I've tested it on OOO 3.2.1 and the problem is present and reproducible, also
tested it in A00 4.1.1 and is alo present and reproducible.

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--- Comment #16 from Robert Gonzalez MX  ---
Created attachment 119267
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Created attachment 119272
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Test Pivot table ES to EN

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--- Comment #14 from Robert Gonzalez MX  ---
Hi.
I confirm that this bug is still present on Versión: LO 5.0.2.2
Id. de compilación: 37b43f919e4de5eeaca9b9755ed688758a8251fe
Configuración regional: es-MX (es_MX)on Win 10

I was going to file a bug about this, but found this one that is exactly what I
am experiencing.

I'm adding screenshoots and a test file. 
This bug is reproducible changing the user interface form English to Spanish or
Spanish to English.

After changing the user interface and opening the file, the pivot table is not
refreshed and the filter drop down menu is not activated, this is related to te
bug 84425, after clicking in the category field, the pivot table is refreshed,
new styles appear and the formatting changes.

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--- Comment #10 from famo richard.l...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to comment #8)
 (In reply to comment #7)
  Second, there is already an engine for style-translation which applies to
  all other styles (Default, Result, Heading, etc.).
  
  So my question is, why is this engine not apllied to the pivot-table 
  stles?
  Wouldn't this be the simplest solution (for the time beeing)?
 
 You are asking the wrong guy.  I didn't design it, so no idea why.

You wrote: I have these pivot table styles, so I thought you might know this.
Also this was meant as a constructive question. I'm not trying to blame anyone
for this history-grown code - sorry if it sounded otherwise.


 Do you need a code pointer for this?

I'm user doing some QA, I have no experience whatsoever with the LO-code.
However if you think it is worth/promising to try - sure go ahead.
Another option might be to name me the right guy (if you know) and I will try
to contact  point him to this bug. Maybe he can give some useful insights.


  The current implementation *IS ALREADY* broken, when shared between
  different locales, so no worry about breaking things ;-) ...
 
 That's lame.  It's already broken, so who cares if you break a little more
 doesn't give me confidence.

Judging from your comment #6 one could get the impression, that by trying to
fix this, things might broke which worked before. I just wanted to clarify
this, also notice the smiley.

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--- Comment #11 from Kohei Yoshida kohei.yosh...@suse.de ---
(In reply to comment #10)
 (In reply to comment #8)
  (In reply to comment #7)
   Second, there is already an engine for style-translation which applies 
   to
   all other styles (Default, Result, Heading, etc.).
   
   So my question is, why is this engine not apllied to the pivot-table 
   stles?
   Wouldn't this be the simplest solution (for the time beeing)?
  
  You are asking the wrong guy.  I didn't design it, so no idea why.
 
 You wrote: I have these pivot table styles, 

That's a typo. I HATE is what I meant to type.

 Judging from your comment #6 one could get the impression, that by trying to
 fix this, things might broke which worked before.

Yes. You could say that.

In short, 

1) This mis-feature is broken by design, and as it stands today, it already
causes issues in several areas which cannot be fixed without removing this
mis-feature.
2) No point improving it because of 1).

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--- Comment #12 from Kohei Yoshida kohei.yosh...@suse.de ---
If I can expand on this a little.

In the future we should remove this and implement much more flexible custom
cell properties inside pivot table, combined with some sort of predefined
styles that can be applied per table.  The current system allows uniform styles
to ALL tables, which isn't extensible, conflicts with these new proposed
features, not to mention it causes severe interop problems.

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--- Comment #7 from famo richard.l...@gmail.com ---
Regarding your new idea/proposal on pivottable design, I replied in the other
bug 44762.

Regarding this one:
I don't quite get your comment:
(In reply to comment #6)
 But besides that, if we ever decide to keep them for the time being and decide
 to translate them, then we'd have to make sure that the implementation would
 continue to use the non-translated versions.
AFAIK, the style-names are already translated, as they are available in every
locale.
Second, there is already an engine for style-translation which applies to all
other styles (Default, Result, Heading, etc.).

So my question is, why is this engine not apllied to the pivot-table stles?
Wouldn't this be the simplest solution (for the time beeing)?


 ... Or else it would break if the document is shared between
 different locales
The current implementation *IS ALREADY* broken, when shared between different
locales, so no worry about breaking things ;-) ...

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--- Comment #8 from Kohei Yoshida kohei.yosh...@suse.de ---
(In reply to comment #7)
 Regarding your new idea/proposal on pivottable design, I replied in the
 other bug 44762.
 
 Regarding this one:
 I don't quite get your comment:
 (In reply to comment #6)
  But besides that, if we ever decide to keep them for the time being and 
  decide
  to translate them, then we'd have to make sure that the implementation would
  continue to use the non-translated versions.
 AFAIK, the style-names are already translated, as they are available in
 every locale.
 Second, there is already an engine for style-translation which applies to
 all other styles (Default, Result, Heading, etc.).
 
 So my question is, why is this engine not apllied to the pivot-table stles?
 Wouldn't this be the simplest solution (for the time beeing)?

You are asking the wrong guy.  I didn't design it, so no idea why.  Maybe you
can see if that's indeed the simplest solution.  Do you need a code pointer for
this?

  ... Or else it would break if the document is shared between
  different locales
 The current implementation *IS ALREADY* broken, when shared between
 different locales, so no worry about breaking things ;-) ...

That's lame.  It's already broken, so who cares if you break a little more
doesn't give me confidence.

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--- Comment #9 from Kohei Yoshida kohei.yosh...@suse.de ---
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   ... Or else it would break if the document is shared between
   different locales
  The current implementation *IS ALREADY* broken, when shared between
  different locales, so no worry about breaking things ;-) ...
 
 That's lame.  It's already broken, so who cares if you break a little more
 doesn't give me confidence.

And that's even another reason why we should get rid of this.  It's broken
beyond repair.

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--- Comment #6 from Kohei Yoshida kohei.yosh...@suse.de ---
This has one gotcha.  First of all, I have these pivot table styles and I would
LOVE to get rid of them.  But besides that, if we ever decide to keep them for
the time being and decide to translate them, then we'd have to make sure that
the implementation would continue to use the non-translated versions.  Or else
it would break if the document is shared between different locales.

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--- Comment #3 from famo fam...@googlemail.com 2012-05-16 07:30:10 PDT ---
Created attachment 61716
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Spreadsheet with a PivotTable, which was saved under english and german locale

(In reply to comment #2)
 Thanks for bugreport
 Please, attach document that demonstrates this problem

HTH

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 Ever Confirmed|0   |1
Version|LibO 3.4.4 release  |LibO 3.3.4 release

--- Comment #4 from sasha.libreoff...@gmail.com 2012-05-16 22:37:19 PDT ---
Thanks for attachment
Reproduced in 3.3.4 and 3.5.3 on Fedora 64 bit
Steps to reproduce:
0. Open attachment
1. Enable Stylist pane
Expected: All styles are with current UI language
Actually: One half is on German, other half on English
2. Modify some German named style, for example Datenpilot Titel, change cell
background
3. Right click somewhere in the DataPilot and choose Refresh from the context
menu.
Expected: DataPilot formatting remains unchanged, no additional styles appear
Actually: DataPilot formatting lost, some additional styles appear

Changing version to 3.3.4 as most early reproducible

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--- Comment #5 from sasha.libreoff...@gmail.com 2012-05-16 22:40:29 PDT ---
@ Andras
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Thanks for bugreport
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--- Comment #1 from famo fam...@googlemail.com 2012-01-13 14:07:58 PST ---
See also bug 44762 (DataPilot naming of styles and request for more styles)

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