RE: Pinout for LCD Display, 100/110

[·TechnoDragon·]

Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 01:46:46 -0400
From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=B7TechnoDragon=B7?=" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Pinout for LCD Display, 100/110

>can you still buy those displays from boing???

 Nope, they're no longer availiable at Boeing Surplus. They sold ou a long 
time ago. The only place where you can find them is on the used market from 
private people or sometimes you might find one in a store somewhere. (And, no, 
I have no idea what store you might find one in. :) )
 That's how I got mine, from a friend who used it for his in car mp3 
player. He upgraded to a better model of display that was like 1cm think. (and 
!@%*&^#ing expensive!) I traded some hardware for the display, and use it for 
my prototype mp3 player, that'll eventually go into my car, when I go out and 
buy one. But for now it's sitting here, hooked up to my stereo, running off of 
12v dc, patiently waiting to be installed into a moving vehicle of some sort.

 You can find them on ebay, along with many other models of lcd display. I 
plan to eventually pick up another display and that's where I plan to shop.

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RE: Pinout for LCD Display, 100/110

[Paul D. J. Davila]

Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 23:59:51 -0400
From: "Paul D. J. Davila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Pinout for LCD Display, 100/110

can you still buy those displays from boing???


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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 03:31:12 -0400
From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=B7TechnoDragon=B7?=" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Pinout for LCD Display, 100/110

>Hello Folks, wondering if anyone here has ever attempted to separate their
>Display from the main board. My reason is that my poor little 100 (O/C'd to
>266mhz) simply just doesn't have enough "Oomph" to suit my needs. However I
>want to retain the
>LCD for my car (Try finding a 7.1"-7.5"  active matrix capable of VGA, next
>to impossible was my experience). I could purchase a PCI LCD video board
for
a
>desktop and run the box in the trunk and the display up front. The only big
>stumbling block I
>can see is what control signals run on what wires to interface with the LCD
>board. I'll probably need a amplifier for the control signals as well. Any
>help if correctly identifying what wires do what would be appreciated.

 I have no idea what the pinouts are for the libreto's lcd display, but
I'd lke to know myself because I want to use one in a handheld mp3 player.
 The big problem when using a lcd of the nature of the special lcd video
cards and direct lcd displays is that the effective cable legnth is measures
in 3 ft or less in many instances. This is because the cable runs of such
cables for direct to lcd signaling is extremely short.
 With a video card that has a SVGA output and a lcd display that uses a
SVGA input, you'll get better performance.
 I did a lot of research for an mp3 player for my car, and concluded
that
unless I located the cpu up front in the glove box or something, I'd have
oneheck of a hard or expensive time getting the signal up front.
 I decided to settle on a cpu unit with a composite video output and an
old lcd display that I got from boeing surplus (boeing = the airplane
manufacturer, they have a surplus sture south of seatle) that was used to
instal inth ebacks of seats so that people could watch tv when vlying, play
video games, etc. if you gave them a credit card to swipe through and were
willng to pay big bucks. It never cought on and the prototype seats were
scraped, etc.
  Anyways, the display is about 8" andtakes a composite signal off of
any
device that provides a composite signal, and runs on 12v DC. This display
ran
me $150, but I concidered it worth it for a car mp3 player because I could
have a very long cable run, and it was usable on almost any device that
outputs a NTSC composite video signal, vcrs, camcorders, tvs, etc, etc.
 You can find displays like this on ebay, sometimes cheap, sometimes
not.
I plan to install a IR touch screen on it for controls, and even though it's
not as sharp a picture as a true lcd interface display, it's clear enough to
make out mapquest maps, control winamp, and run it well enough in 640x480
mode
to surf the web and check email, etc, from a ricochet wireless modem.

 You could probably get the pinout of the connector if you know the
exact
model # of the lcd display and call the manufacturer of it. (I think Citizen
or
Cannon, or some company starting with a C) But for the cable run from the
trunk to the dash, an amp may work, but I'm willing to bet it won't. You'll
probably get ghosting, static, trailing pixels, etc, etc. It probably won't
be
pretty. NTSC / Composite for such a long cable run is your most stable
option.

 Just my 2¢.

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Re: [H Re: Lib Power in Car]

[Tom Manson]

Date: 16 Oct 00 21:52:52 EDT
From: Tom Manson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [H Re: Lib Power in Car]

I'll say jolly good!  And in fact the following is an excellent example of
redundancy, the last two sentences saying the same thing twice.  ;-)

>
> Sociology students will find the above to be of interest. 
> An example of a man of widely varying tastes. Exemplifying the 
> extremes in taste. 
> 

Had to do it Jim.  Sorry  ;-)

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50ct Screen failure

[Tom Manson]

Date: 16 Oct 00 21:40:42 EDT
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Subject: 50ct Screen failure

OK all you smart guys, I was advised to disassemble and look for flakey
connectors (hoping for an easy fix).  So here it is in the three attached jpgs
below.  #1 is the screen panel with the cover off and the screen circuit
tilted up on its side.  #2 is a closup of the screen circuit, and #3 is
another closeup of the screen circuit card with my itty bitty screwdriver
pointing to what appears to be the backlight power supply output (I couldn't
figure out what else could have large insulated wilres like that (white and
blue).

If my assumption is correct, and since the connectors (and everything else)
looked pretty good, I will pull the backlight connector, turn on the Libretto
and measure the voltage at the connector sockets.  Questions: What voltage
should I expect, and is there any risk in performing the test as I have
described it (I will of course take care to protect myself from high voltage
and the 50ct from ESD)?

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Re: [RE: [Clik! drives now much cheaper]]

[Tom Manson]

Date: 16 Oct 00 21:30:31 EDT
From: Tom Manson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [RE: [Clik! drives now much cheaper]]

Yep.  I see now.  I found the PCMCIA version after I sent the email.  Sorry.

Tom


"David T. Gillis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 19:47:00 -0400
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> Subject: RE: [Clik! drives now much cheaper]
> 
> There are two types of Clik! drives. The pc card model is the one that J&R
> is selling for 69.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tom Manson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 6:31 PM
> > To: Libretto
> > Subject: Re: [Clik! drives now much cheaper]
> >
> >
> > Date: 16 Oct 00 17:53:10 EDT
> > From: Tom Manson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [Clik! drives now much cheaper]
> >
> > Paul,
> > Why does JandR's webpage show a price of $199.99 for the
> > Iomega Clik if it
> > only cost you $69?
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > --
> >
> > Paul Bristow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 18:20:04 +0200
> > > From: Paul Bristow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Subject: Clik! drives now much cheaper
> > >
> > > I just got back from a trip to New York, where I found the
> > PCMCIA Clik!
> > > drive from IOMEGA available at $69, including a spare 40M
> > disk.  I was
> > > so excited I bought one as a spare.  Now one drive lives in
> > my libretto
> > > and the other in my wallet.  Very cool.
> > >
> > > Can be found at www.jandr.com
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
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RE: [Clik! drives now much cheaper]

[David T. Gillis]

Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 19:47:00 -0400
From: "David T. Gillis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [Clik! drives now much cheaper]

There are two types of Clik! drives. The pc card model is the one that J&R
is selling for 69.

> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Manson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 6:31 PM
> To: Libretto
> Subject: Re: [Clik! drives now much cheaper]
>
>
> Date: 16 Oct 00 17:53:10 EDT
> From: Tom Manson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Clik! drives now much cheaper]
>
> Paul,
> Why does JandR's webpage show a price of $199.99 for the
> Iomega Clik if it
> only cost you $69?
>
> Tom
>
> --
>
> Paul Bristow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 18:20:04 +0200
> > From: Paul Bristow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Clik! drives now much cheaper
> >
> > I just got back from a trip to New York, where I found the
> PCMCIA Clik!
> > drive from IOMEGA available at $69, including a spare 40M
> disk.  I was
> > so excited I bought one as a spare.  Now one drive lives in
> my libretto
> > and the other in my wallet.  Very cool.
> >
> > Can be found at www.jandr.com
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > --
> >
> > Paul
> >
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Re: [Clik! drives now much cheaper]

[Tom Manson]

Date: 16 Oct 00 17:53:10 EDT
From: Tom Manson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Clik! drives now much cheaper]

Paul,
Why does JandR's webpage show a price of $199.99 for the Iomega Clik if it
only cost you $69?

Tom

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Paul Bristow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 18:20:04 +0200
> From: Paul Bristow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Clik! drives now much cheaper
> 
> I just got back from a trip to New York, where I found the PCMCIA Clik!
> drive from IOMEGA available at $69, including a spare 40M disk.  I was
> so excited I bought one as a spare.  Now one drive lives in my libretto
> and the other in my wallet.  Very cool.
> 
> Can be found at www.jandr.com
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -- 
> 
> Paul
> 
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Re: Screen hangs when typing BIOS password: CMOS battery?

[David Chien]

Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 14:41:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Chien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Screen hangs when typing BIOS password: CMOS battery?

See my site for exploded view & parts list that'll say which to order.

As for the battery, it could be dead if you've left it unpowered for a few
weeks.  Naturally, have you tried charging the system for a few days straight
of the mains?  If that doesn't help, I'd say its either a hardware or battery
problem -- can't tell since either could shut down your Libretto just the same.

At the very least, I'd pop the keyboard up myself and make sure the connector
is secure.  That alone should eliminate that as a possible source of trouble.

Also, once you've got the entire thing charged, try again and see if it
auto-shutsdown.

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Re: Want to buy

[David Chien]

Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 14:37:48 -0700 (PDT)
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www.ebay.com is the best place to buy them.
other than that, they'll be more expensive elsewhere.
maybe the classifieds at yahoo.com & excite.com.

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Re: Clik! drives now much cheaper

[E. Smith]

Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 13:04:22 -0400
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Subject: Re: Clik! drives now much cheaper

Wow! Thanks, Paul.  I might just get myself a spare, too.

-e.


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Subject: Clik! drives now much cheaper


> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 18:20:04 +0200
> From: Paul Bristow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Clik! drives now much cheaper
>
> I just got back from a trip to New York, where I found the PCMCIA Clik!
> drive from IOMEGA available at $69, including a spare 40M disk.  I was
> so excited I bought one as a spare.  Now one drive lives in my libretto
> and the other in my wallet.  Very cool.
>
> Can be found at www.jandr.com
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
>
> Paul
>
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RE: Lib Power in Car

[Berlant, Michael S]

Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 12:04:19 -0500
From: "Berlant, Michael S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Lib Power in Car

New GM cars allow for the power outlet fuses to either work on the ignition
switch or be on all the time.  Maybe Ford has the same option.

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Subject: H Re: Lib Power in Car


In a message dated 10/14/2000 11:42:38 AM US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> 
>  On my car (a Tempo) the Cig connector is Disconnected during start. In
fact
>  if I do NOT have the battery in the Lib it will turn off during starting.

As
>  soon as the key is released it comes back on. My Lincoln is the same as
is
>  my LeSharo Motor Home.
>  
>  

Sociology students will find the above to be of interest. An example of a
man 
of widely varying tastes. Exemplifying the extremes in taste. 

OK. Pres, it is going to take some more sessions on the couch to get these 
things straighten out.

I was amazed though that you were aware of the thread and spoke to it rather

than dragging out the Hyde Park Soapbox.

Jolly good.

Jim Ray, Phoenix, AZ, USA




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H Re: Lib Power in Car

[JIM6360]

Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 12:53:47 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: H Re: Lib Power in Car

In a message dated 10/14/2000 11:42:38 AM US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> 
>  On my car (a Tempo) the Cig connector is Disconnected during start. In fact
>  if I do NOT have the battery in the Lib it will turn off during starting. 
As
>  soon as the key is released it comes back on. My Lincoln is the same as is
>  my LeSharo Motor Home.
>  
>  

Sociology students will find the above to be of interest. An example of a man 
of widely varying tastes. Exemplifying the extremes in taste. 

OK. Pres, it is going to take some more sessions on the couch to get these 
things straighten out.

I was amazed though that you were aware of the thread and spoke to it rather 
than dragging out the Hyde Park Soapbox.

Jolly good.

Jim Ray, Phoenix, AZ, USA
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Clik! drives now much cheaper

[Paul Bristow]

Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 18:20:04 +0200
From: Paul Bristow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Clik! drives now much cheaper

I just got back from a trip to New York, where I found the PCMCIA Clik!
drive from IOMEGA available at $69, including a spare 40M disk.  I was
so excited I bought one as a spare.  Now one drive lives in my libretto
and the other in my wallet.  Very cool.

Can be found at www.jandr.com

Cheers,

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Good deal on PCMCIA-powered CD-ROM drive at PCMall

[E. Smith]

Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 11:59:18 -0400
From: "E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Good deal on PCMCIA-powered CD-ROM drive at PCMall

I just found an Archos "MiniCDROM 24X PC-Card Drive" for sale at PCMall for $120 plus 
a $20 manufacturer's rebate.  This got me excited and I ordered one so I thought I'd 
tell the group.  http://www.cc-inc.com/pcmall/shop/detail.asp?dpno=58069

-e. 





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Re: Pinout for LCD Display, 100/110

[Pres Waterman]

Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 11:43:49 -0400
From: "Pres Waterman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Pinout for LCD Display, 100/110

> Hello Folks, wondering if anyone here has ever attempted to separate their
Display from the main board. My reason is that my poor little 100 (O/C'd to
266mhz) simply just doesn't have enough "Oomph" to suit my needs. However I
want to retain the LCD for my car (Try finding a 7.1"-7.5"  active matrix
capable of VGA, next to impossible was my experience). I could purchase a
PCI LCD video board for a desktop and run the box in the trunk and the
display up front. The only big stumbling block I can see is what control
signals run on what wires to interface with the LCD board. I'll probably
need a amplifier for the control signals as well. Any help if correctly
identifying what wires do what would be appreciated.


Wow. If you need more processor than the Libretto, but like the package for
in-car use, you would be MUCH better off using the Libretto as a remote
control for a beefier machine in the trunk. Use PCAnywhere, LapLink, Carbon
Copy type programs with ethernet as the fastest link to the stronger
machine.



Pres Waterman W2PW
c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc.
Long Island Ford and Kia dealer

GO BILLS!




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to pam

[Douglas/Dynamism.com]

Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 10:25:36 -0500
From: "Douglas/Dynamism.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: to pam

pam
did you send the check to david chien for advertising as mentioned a few 
weeks ago
thanks
douglas




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[eaglefire]

Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 08:32:48 -0400
From: eaglefire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: cmd:unsubscribe  digest

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Re: Hello?

[Daniel Smith]

Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 23:09:16 +1100
From: Daniel Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hello?

Can you describe these LanEntry cards ( or send me a URL for specs ).
I may be interested in up to four of them ( + 2 ISA adapters )
Oh and how much you're asking too!

Cheers

Daniel Smith


On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 07:20:57AM -0700, Ken Hansen wrote:
> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:08:13 -0400
> From: "Ken Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Hello?
> 
> Is this list still active? I don't remember seeing any posts for a *long* time...
> 
> BTW, I have several IBM LanEntry cards I am about to get rid of, is anyone still 
>interested in these? I've got 5 cards, and a few PCMCIA ISA adapters I'd like to sell.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ken
> 
> 
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Re: Screen hangs when typing BIOS password: CMOS battery?

[Digby Tarvin]

Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 12:33:17 +0100 (GMT/BST)
From: Digby Tarvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Screen hangs when typing BIOS password: CMOS battery?

> Second question:
> About two or three weeks ago, the ordinary battery died and I didn't
> change it, as I worked only at home. I read somewhere on the Web, that
> the main battery also feeds the CMOS battery and keeps it healthy.
> Is that true?

In my experience with other computers, NVRAM goes flat faster when
the machines have no power. Desktops don't run on battery, so for
them that means when they are turned off. It seems to make sense, as
that is when they would be drawing power.

My main battery went flat about a year ago, and as I very rarely use
the Libretto on battery, I have not replaced it. (I have a new
battery, but I don't put it in the machine, because I don't want
another battery to exhaust its recharge cycle limit before I 
get to use it...). So far, I have never had a problem with
my CMOS battery.

Of course I never bother disconnecting it from the mains, even when turned
off, except when moving the machine, so I suspect that is as good as having
a battery in place.

Regards,
DigbyT
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Screen hangs when typing BIOS password: CMOS battery?

[vanstraatensoft]

Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 06:01:02 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Screen hangs when typing BIOS password: CMOS battery?

Hi,

when I power up my Libretto 50CT and try to type in my BIOS password, it
takes only one or two characters and stops working. Sometimes, the screen
keeps dark at all.

First question:
Is the CMOS battery empty?

Second question:
About two or three weeks ago, the ordinary battery died and I didn't
change it, as I worked only at home. I read somewhere on the Web, that
the main battery also feeds the CMOS battery and keeps it healthy.
Is that true?

Third question:
I'm in West Yorkshire, UK. Do I have to send in the Libretto to Toshiba,
or are there other possibilities?

As I tried to get changed my CMOS battery at PC World (I didn't bought
it there, but they sold the Libretto 50CT once), they couldn't help me and
sent me to Maplin.
Maplin didn't have the battery in their catalogue.
It's a small device made of green metal plates which contains two small
batteries and has a cable with a tiny white plug.

Andre van Straaten
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Libretto floppy with Linux kernel-2.4.0

[Christian Gennerat]

Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 09:56:09 +0200
From: Christian Gennerat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Libretto floppy with Linux kernel-2.4.0

In the new kernel-2.4.0 the pcmcia sources are included
in the kernel source and compiled with the kernel
"make modules" commands.
So somes changes are required.
The joined archive includes:
- old patches that are keeped: floppy-24old.fix
- new patches for this version: floppy-24new.fix
- a logfile of a new problem: umount.log

With this, you can read/write files/directories,
but after the pcmcia card has been ejected,
you can never re-insert it. You must re-boot before

Trying to free nonexistent resource <03a8-03af>
Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 
 printing eip:
c015e886
*pde = 
Oops: 


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Re: Pinout for LCD Display, 100/110

[neil barnes]

Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 07:44:44 GMT
From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Pinout for LCD Display, 100/110

If anyone has this info for the CT50 I'd also be interested...
 Me Too! 

Neil


>From: "Ryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Pinout for LCD Display, 100/110
>Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 19:12:11 -0700
>
>Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 22:06:14 -0400
>From: "Ryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Pinout for LCD Display, 100/110
>
>Hello Folks, wondering if anyone here has ever attempted to separate their 
>Display from the main board. My reason is that my poor little 100 (O/C'd to 
>266mhz) simply just doesn't have enough "Oomph" to suit my needs. However I 
>want to retain the LCD for my car (Try finding a 7.1"-7.5"  active matrix 
>capable of VGA, next to impossible was my experience). I could purchase a 
>PCI LCD video board for a desktop and run the box in the trunk and the 
>display up front. The only big stumbling block I can see is what control 
>signals run on what wires to interface with the LCD board. I'll probably 
>need a amplifier for the control signals as well. Any help if correctly 
>identifying what wires do what would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Ryan
>
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RE: Pinout for LCD Display, 100/110

[·TechnoDragon·]

Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 03:31:12 -0400
From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=B7TechnoDragon=B7?=" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Pinout for LCD Display, 100/110

>Hello Folks, wondering if anyone here has ever attempted to separate their
>Display from the main board. My reason is that my poor little 100 (O/C'd to
>266mhz) simply just doesn't have enough "Oomph" to suit my needs. However I
>want to retain the
>LCD for my car (Try finding a 7.1"-7.5"  active matrix capable of VGA, next
>to impossible was my experience). I could purchase a PCI LCD video board for 
a
>desktop and run the box in the trunk and the display up front. The only big
>stumbling block I
>can see is what control signals run on what wires to interface with the LCD
>board. I'll probably need a amplifier for the control signals as well. Any
>help if correctly identifying what wires do what would be appreciated.

 I have no idea what the pinouts are for the libreto's lcd display, but
I'd lke to know myself because I want to use one in a handheld mp3 player.
 The big problem when using a lcd of the nature of the special lcd video
cards and direct lcd displays is that the effective cable legnth is measures
in 3 ft or less in many instances. This is because the cable runs of such
cables for direct to lcd signaling is extremely short.
 With a video card that has a SVGA output and a lcd display that uses a
SVGA input, you'll get better performance.
 I did a lot of research for an mp3 player for my car, and concluded that
unless I located the cpu up front in the glove box or something, I'd have
oneheck of a hard or expensive time getting the signal up front.
 I decided to settle on a cpu unit with a composite video output and an
old lcd display that I got from boeing surplus (boeing = the airplane
manufacturer, they have a surplus sture south of seatle) that was used to
instal inth ebacks of seats so that people could watch tv when vlying, play
video games, etc. if you gave them a credit card to swipe through and were
willng to pay big bucks. It never cought on and the prototype seats were
scraped, etc.
  Anyways, the display is about 8" andtakes a composite signal off of any
device that provides a composite signal, and runs on 12v DC. This display ran
me $150, but I concidered it worth it for a car mp3 player because I could
have a very long cable run, and it was usable on almost any device that
outputs a NTSC composite video signal, vcrs, camcorders, tvs, etc, etc.
 You can find displays like this on ebay, sometimes cheap, sometimes not.
I plan to install a IR touch screen on it for controls, and even though it's
not as sharp a picture as a true lcd interface display, it's clear enough to
make out mapquest maps, control winamp, and run it well enough in 640x480 mode
to surf the web and check email, etc, from a ricochet wireless modem.

 You could probably get the pinout of the connector if you know the exact
model # of the lcd display and call the manufacturer of it. (I think Citizen 
or
Cannon, or some company starting with a C) But for the cable run from the
trunk to the dash, an amp may work, but I'm willing to bet it won't. You'll
probably get ghosting, static, trailing pixels, etc, etc. It probably won't be
pretty. NTSC / Composite for such a long cable run is your most stable option.

 Just my 2¢.

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