Lyricsto skips notes with melisma's in 2.2 ?
The following is a snippet from a song I want to enter in Lilypond
version 2.2.0
However the notes within << >> are skipped due to a melisma? (I think
it's the melisma that gets me in trouble)
the "My" should fall on the << ges8 \melisma (f8) \melismaEnd \\ es4 >>
but instead that part is skipped...
The snippet should be possible to run through lilypond if you need to
see what happens...
Is there anyone who knows what's going wrong exactly and how this can be
solved?
Thanks!
Michiel
--- snippet begin ---
\version "2.2.0"
muzieksopr = \notes
{
4 { <<{ges8 \melisma ( f8 ) \melismaEnd} \\ es4 >> }
4. 8 4 8 8 4 des4 1~
1
}
muziekbas = \notes
{
4 4 4. 8 4
8 8 4 4 << {bes1~ \melisma ( bes2 a
) \melismaEnd} \\ {c,1 \melisma ( f1 ) \melismaEnd} >>
}
tekst = \lyrics
{
_seek _My _face _and _turn _from _their _wick -- ed _ways__
}
\score
{
\notes
\context PianoStaff <<
\context Voice = melodie
{
\relative c'
{
\set Staff.midiInstrument="violin"
\key bes \major \clef violin
\muzieksopr
}
}
\new Staff
{
\relative c'
{
\set Staff.midiInstrument="violin"
\key bes \major \clef bass
\muziekbas
}
}
\lyricsto "melodie" \new Lyrics \lyrics
{
\tekst
}
>>
\midi { \tempo 4 = 80 }
\paper {}
}
--- snippet end ---
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\skip in lyricmode
In lyricmode \skip 1 goes the next note in a series of 8th notes? I can't seem to get this number to represent anything. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Beams across repeat signs
According to the regression tests, LilyPond does not typeset beams across manual repeat signs. That is true. However, it does place beams across repeat-voltas, if the repeat sign is mid-bar. Is there a way to avoid that without using manual beaming? I use LilyPond 2.2.4. I tried so search the list archives, but as someone already pointed out, the search function doesn't appear to be working for the moment. Regards Erik Ronström ___ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: non-latin1 characters
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Re: Landscape problems
> Did you search for "landscape" in the index of the manual for > version 2.4.2? > That's what I said here: > >The only thing that works is > > > > #(set-default-paper-size "a4" 'landscape) > > > >at the top of the file. But then, the overall aspect isn't attractive yet: > >Well, more or less, because the general layout isn't very pleasing: > >there is one system per page (normal because there are 8 staves per > >system) but the on the first page, the system is stacked at the bottom > >of the page while on the others it is stacked at the top (I'd like it > >to be centered on the page). > >I tried several combination of "raggedbottom" and "raggedlastbottom" > >(in the "\layout" or in the "\paper" section) but I don't seem to find > >the right one. What do you suggest to solve this? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Landscape problems
Did you search for "landscape" in the index of the manual for
version 2.4.2?
Of course, a warning from convert-ly would still be nice, I
include a Cc: to bug-lilypond.
/Mats
Gilles wrote:
Hello.
I had a file with the following:
-
\version "2.2.0"
#(set-global-staff-size 16)
\include "all.inc.ly"
\score {
\staves
\paper {
orientation = "landscape"
linewidth=27.0\cm
}
}
-
which produced the expected landscape-oriented sheet.
I used "convert-ly-snapshot" (Debian, package from
http://www.pedrokroeger.net/lilypond/) that converted
it into:
-
\version "2.4.0"
#(set-global-staff-size 16)
\include "all.inc.ly"
\score {
\staves
\layout {
orientation = "landscape"
linewidth=27.0\cm
}
}
-
Now, the paper is in portrait orientation, (with, of course,
the systems falling off the pages).
Looking into the manual, I saw there isn't an "orientation"
property anymore. [Then, shouldn't "convert-ly" do something
about that?]
I tried
-
\version "2.4.0"
#(set-global-staff-size 16)
\include "all.inc.ly"
\score {
\staves
\layout {
hsize=29.7\cm
vsize=21.0\cm
linewidth=27.0\cm
}
}
-
But it didn't change anything.
[By the way, "\layout" is not referenced in the unified index.
Where is the explanation of this instruction?]
I then moved "hsize" and "vsize" to a global "\paper" section.
To no avail.
The only thing that works is
#(set-default-paper-size "a4" 'landscape)
at the top of the file.
Well, more or less, because the general layout isn't very pleasing:
there is one system per page (normal because there are 8 staves per
system) but the on the first page, the system is stacked at the bottom
of the page while on the others it is stacked at the top (I'd like it
to be centered on the page).
I tried several combination of "raggedbottom" and "raggedlastbottom"
(in the "\layout" or in the "\paper" section) but I don't seem to find
the right one.
Isn't all this a bit misleading, or am I missing some important
clue about page layout?
Thanks,
Gilles
P.S. The archive search engine is again not working (as of
Tue Jan 11 16:34:10 CET 2005):
-
Results:
References: [ music: 0 ]
No document matching your query.
-
Does someone know why it happens?
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Re: Odp: fingering
On Monday 10 January 2005 07:26 pm, Albert Einstein wrote:
> The link shoud be: http://www.openguitar.com/files/cma0.pdf
Thanks. Stupid mistake. And using \thumb instead of \ft
is a better idea too, but my definition. I didn't get the
"thumb script", but it's a terrible idea for guitar music.
Looks too much like a 0 zero, which is why no one will ever
use it except cellists.
>
> If you use polyphony syntax {} // {}
> you can put number of finger close note head
> as follows:
> { \set fingeringOrientations = #'(right)
> 4. } // {}
> > > Somehow it never gets easier to get the numbers on staff lines,
> > unless they precede the note of course.
Putting a finger indication after a note is a world-class bad
idea. It's just asking for errors. It's always better before
than after. See:
http://www.openguitar.com/files/chords.pdf
Imagine what a mess it would be with some of the fingering after.
Actually, LilyPond did a close to perfect job there. The only
fault is that for some reason there is extra space
between the finger number and the accidental when the note
is high, for example the fifth measure third chord.
A nasty bug, but not comparable to the vertical raising
of finger numbers after accidental marks. It makes no sense
to use different horizontal spacing for accidentals and fingers,
but there is obviously an additional problem there.
But the Carcassi is a simple thing in two parts, and just below or
above the note head is preferred in these cases. and it is in
fact the way the original was done. Got you there. That's in
possibly the most successful single music publication of the 19th
century, and not in the first edition either. If I had fingered
the ending chord it would have vertically 32 1 to the left. No problem.
> You write 4 instead a'4-2; where 2 is second finger and 4 for
> crotchet. If you have chord you use 4_\thumb.
Using the chord syntax produced no difference on the vertical,
which was disappointing. It should have brought the number
right up to the note head. Another serious bug. Since everyone
seems to be hell-bent on keeping fingers off staff lines, I
doubt it will be acknowledged as such. daveA
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Re: How to set lyrics to temporarily divided parts
Kilian A. Foth wrote:
Mats Bengtsson writes:
[...]
> However, a simpler solution is to avoid to keep the original
> Voice context for the upper music line when the music splits
> into two voices. This is easiest done by not using the
> <<{...} \\ {...}>> feature (untested):
> \score{
> <<
> \context Voice = "melody" {
> \relative c' { c
> << {\voiceOne c8 e} \context Voice = splitpart {\voiceTwo c4} >>
>\oneVoice c4 c | c
>}
> }
> \new Lyrics \lyricsto "melody" { we shall not o- ver- come }
> \new Lyrics \lyricsto "splitpart" { shall }
> >>
> }
>
Oh I *see*! I wasn't aware that you can simply switch contexts while
remaining on the current staff. Thank you very much, that was exactly
what I needed.
Sorry to be picky, but that's what you did in your previous attempt.
In the solution I proposed above, the point is that you don't switch
context for the upper line and only create an extra one for the lower
line. (Just trying to help you grasp the concepts).
/Mats
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Landscape problems
Hello.
I had a file with the following:
-
\version "2.2.0"
#(set-global-staff-size 16)
\include "all.inc.ly"
\score {
\staves
\paper {
orientation = "landscape"
linewidth=27.0\cm
}
}
-
which produced the expected landscape-oriented sheet.
I used "convert-ly-snapshot" (Debian, package from
http://www.pedrokroeger.net/lilypond/) that converted
it into:
-
\version "2.4.0"
#(set-global-staff-size 16)
\include "all.inc.ly"
\score {
\staves
\layout {
orientation = "landscape"
linewidth=27.0\cm
}
}
-
Now, the paper is in portrait orientation, (with, of course,
the systems falling off the pages).
Looking into the manual, I saw there isn't an "orientation"
property anymore. [Then, shouldn't "convert-ly" do something
about that?]
I tried
-
\version "2.4.0"
#(set-global-staff-size 16)
\include "all.inc.ly"
\score {
\staves
\layout {
hsize=29.7\cm
vsize=21.0\cm
linewidth=27.0\cm
}
}
-
But it didn't change anything.
[By the way, "\layout" is not referenced in the unified index.
Where is the explanation of this instruction?]
I then moved "hsize" and "vsize" to a global "\paper" section.
To no avail.
The only thing that works is
#(set-default-paper-size "a4" 'landscape)
at the top of the file.
Well, more or less, because the general layout isn't very pleasing:
there is one system per page (normal because there are 8 staves per
system) but the on the first page, the system is stacked at the bottom
of the page while on the others it is stacked at the top (I'd like it
to be centered on the page).
I tried several combination of "raggedbottom" and "raggedlastbottom"
(in the "\layout" or in the "\paper" section) but I don't seem to find
the right one.
Isn't all this a bit misleading, or am I missing some important
clue about page layout?
Thanks,
Gilles
P.S. The archive search engine is again not working (as of
Tue Jan 11 16:34:10 CET 2005):
-
Results:
References: [ music: 0 ]
No document matching your query.
-
Does someone know why it happens?
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Re: How to set lyrics to temporarily divided parts
Mats Bengtsson writes:
[...]
> > Do you
> > know a way to put alternative lyrics into the same context, so that in
> > the example both `shall' and `shall not' are aligned with the second
> > note?
>
> That's trivial. If you give a name to a context, it is uniquely
> identified by its name, so you can do
>
> \context Lyrics = mainlyrics \lyricsto "melody" { we o- ver- come }
> \context Lyrics =mainlyrics \lyricsto "1" { shall not }
> \new Lyrics \lyricsto "2" { shall }
>
> However, a simpler solution is to avoid to keep the original
> Voice context for the upper music line when the music splits
> into two voices. This is easiest done by not using the
> <<{...} \\ {...}>> feature (untested):
> \score{
> <<
> \context Voice = "melody" {
> \relative c' { c
> << {\voiceOne c8 e} \context Voice = splitpart {\voiceTwo c4} >>
>\oneVoice c4 c | c
>}
> }
> \new Lyrics \lyricsto "melody" { we shall not o- ver- come }
> \new Lyrics \lyricsto "splitpart" { shall }
> >>
> }
>
Oh I *see*! I wasn't aware that you can simply switch contexts while
remaining on the current staff. Thank you very much, that was exactly
what I needed.
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Re: How to set lyrics to temporarily divided parts
Kilian A. Foth wrote:
Ferenc Wagner writes:
> > \score {
> > << \context Voice = "melody" { \relative c' { c c c c | c } }
> > \new Lyrics \lyricsto "melody" { we shall o- ver- come } >> }
> >
> > \score {
> > << \context Voice = "melody" { \relative c' { c c8 e c4 c | c } }
> > \new Lyrics \lyricsto "melody" { we shall not o- ver- come } >> }
> >
> > \score {
> > << \context Voice = "melody" {
> > \relative c' { c
> > << {\voiceOne c8 e} \\ {\voiceTwo c4} >>
> > \oneVoice c4 c | c
> > }
> > }
> > \new Lyrics \lyricsto "melody" { we o- ver- come }
> > \new Lyrics \lyricsto "1" { shall not }
> > \new Lyrics \lyricsto "2" { shall }
> > >>
> > }
> >
> > The third score correctly combines the first two (although the split
> > lyrics are typeset one line too low). But that trick only works once
> > for a part -- the next assignment to "1" would put yet another line of
> > lyrics under the same split note, rather than the next one. Can notes
> > and text be associated closer somehow to avoid this?
>
> \new Lyrics creates a new lyrics context (ie. a fresh and
> independent line of lyrics); what you want is putting more
> words into the *same* context (line) you already created.
Yes, apparently I need to, but I can't figure out how to do it! Do you
know a way to put alternative lyrics into the same context, so that in
the example both `shall' and `shall not' are aligned with the second
note?
That's trivial. If you give a name to a context, it is uniquely
identified by its name, so you can do
\context Lyrics = mainlyrics \lyricsto "melody" { we o- ver- come }
\context Lyrics =mainlyrics \lyricsto "1" { shall not }
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "2" { shall }
However, a simpler solution is to avoid to keep the original
Voice context for the upper music line when the music splits
into two voices. This is easiest done by not using the
<<{...} \\ {...}>> feature (untested):
\score{
<<
\context Voice = "melody" {
\relative c' { c
<< {\voiceOne c8 e} \context Voice = splitpart {\voiceTwo c4} >>
\oneVoice c4 c | c
}
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "melody" { we shall not o- ver- come }
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "splitpart" { shall }
>>
}
/Mats
> Since "2" is a short lived voice context, I'm not sure if it
> will just work. As a side note, I found it more natural not
> to use the implicit voice creation syntax, but explicitly
> name contexts (and possible keep them alive) by the other
> method illustrated in the referred article.
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Sweden
Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463
Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: creating objects
Inline TeX or LaTeX commands can also be used, unless you have upgraded to the latest development version. /Mats Ferenc Wagner wrote: Jean-marc LEGRAND <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: The thing is that I ahve to use markups that don't exist in lily2.2.5. Is it possible to draw those markups and insert them in my pdf ? Inserting raw Postscript is possible, search for it in the Tips and Tricks document. -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lyrics in polyphony
Charles Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I am writing a song in lead-sheet format. I have an
> introduction that is polyphonic (manual 2.16). The last
> measure of the introduction has a pickup into the melody
> proper. I can't get a lyric on that pick-up.
The { ... \\ ... \\ ... } construct creates voices
implicitly with names "1", "2" etc. (Follow the link at the
bottom of the page through 5.4.1!) I don't know how
\addlyrics would behave in such a situation, but \lyricsto
surely can help. Make the pickup a separate voice by
creating it explicitly via \context Voice = "pickup" or
similar, then attach lyrics to it via \lyricsto.
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Re: lyrics in polyphony
Please send a (small) example of what you tried. Also, don't forget to tell what version of LilyPond you use, otherwise you might get an answer that's not fully relevant to you. Take a look at the the example for Vocal ensembles to see how to set the lyrics to one of several lines of music in a single staff. I hope you have read the full section on Vocal Music in the manual. It should answer your questions. /Mats Charles Gran wrote: I am writing a song in lead-sheet format. I have an introduction that is polyphonic (manual 2.16). The last measure of the introduction has a pickup into the melody proper. I can't get a lyric on that pick-up. In single-staff polyphony, how can you treat the top line as melody with lyric and the bottom as accompaniment? My piece uses a template from the manual (notes, lyrics, and chords 3.2.4) Charles ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to set lyrics to temporarily divided parts
Ferenc Wagner writes:
> > \score {
> > << \context Voice = "melody" { \relative c' { c c c c | c } }
> > \new Lyrics \lyricsto "melody" { we shall o- ver- come } >> }
> >
> > \score {
> > << \context Voice = "melody" { \relative c' { c c8 e c4 c | c } }
> > \new Lyrics \lyricsto "melody" { we shall not o- ver- come } >> }
> >
> > \score {
> > << \context Voice = "melody" {
> > \relative c' { c
> > << {\voiceOne c8 e} \\ {\voiceTwo c4} >>
> > \oneVoice c4 c | c
> > }
> > }
> > \new Lyrics \lyricsto "melody" { we o- ver- come }
> > \new Lyrics \lyricsto "1" { shall not }
> > \new Lyrics \lyricsto "2" { shall }
> > >>
> > }
> >
> > The third score correctly combines the first two (although the split
> > lyrics are typeset one line too low). But that trick only works once
> > for a part -- the next assignment to "1" would put yet another line of
> > lyrics under the same split note, rather than the next one. Can notes
> > and text be associated closer somehow to avoid this?
>
> \new Lyrics creates a new lyrics context (ie. a fresh and
> independent line of lyrics); what you want is putting more
> words into the *same* context (line) you already created.
Yes, apparently I need to, but I can't figure out how to do it! Do you
know a way to put alternative lyrics into the same context, so that in
the example both `shall' and `shall not' are aligned with the second
note?
> Since "2" is a short lived voice context, I'm not sure if it
> will just work. As a side note, I found it more natural not
> to use the implicit voice creation syntax, but explicitly
> name contexts (and possible keep them alive) by the other
> method illustrated in the referred article.
--
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AB NATS, FB Informatik Fax +49 40 42883-2515
Universität Hamburg
Vogt-Kölln-Str. 30
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InstrumentNames alignment
Hello all, I tried to change the alignment of instrument names with no success: \override Staff.InstrumentName #'self-alignment-X = #1 but this does not work. What am I doing wrong? Thank you, Thomas 2.4.2 on cygwin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
lyrics in polyphony
I am writing a song in lead-sheet format. I have an introduction that is polyphonic (manual 2.16). The last measure of the introduction has a pickup into the melody proper. I can't get a lyric on that pick-up. In single-staff polyphony, how can you treat the top line as melody with lyric and the bottom as accompaniment? My piece uses a template from the manual (notes, lyrics, and chords 3.2.4) Charles ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: creating objects
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creating objects
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Re: Chord Names
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