Re: Can't get it to look like I want it to

2009-02-16 Thread Tim Slattery
Michael Lauer mrlau...@yahoo.com wrote:



First, for those who are unfamiliar with shape-note tunebooks and would 
like to see the sort of thing Tim is talking about, see for example
http://digital.lib.msu.edu/projects/ssb/display.cfm?
TitleID=610Format=jpgPageNum=26 .
That's a little different than the conventions Tim wants, but close.

To get the dots-with-a-simple-barline, you can make a custom stencil, like
this

Thanks Michael, I'll give this a shot.

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Can't get it to look like I want it to

2009-02-16 Thread Tim Slattery
I still can't get my output to look the way I want it to.Maybe
Lilypond just doesn't do this.

Traditional Sacred Harp music uses four dots, one between each line,
for a repeat symbol. It looks just like what you get when you specify
\bar:. The beginning of a repeat often starts in the middle of a
measure, and I've gotten that effect by doing this (in a 6/8 song):

| g2 \bar : r8 g8 |

I don't know why it doesn't complain about the wrong number of beats
in a measure, but it doesn't.

The other end of the repeat is at the end of a measure, so it should
like the \bar: symbol immediately followed by a normal bar line. And
that I cannot do.

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Re: Can't get it to look like I want it to

2009-02-16 Thread Michael Lauer
Tim Slattery Slattery_T at bls.gov writes:

 
 I still can't get my output to look the way I want it to.Maybe
 Lilypond just doesn't do this.
 
 Traditional Sacred Harp music uses four dots, one between each line,
 for a repeat symbol. It looks just like what you get when you specify
 \bar:. The beginning of a repeat often starts in the middle of a
 measure, and I've gotten that effect by doing this (in a 6/8 song):
 
 | g2 \bar : r8 g8 |
 
 I don't know why it doesn't complain about the wrong number of beats
 in a measure, but it doesn't.
 
 The other end of the repeat is at the end of a measure, so it should
 like the \bar: symbol immediately followed by a normal bar line. And
 that I cannot do.
 

First, for those who are unfamiliar with shape-note tunebooks and would 
like to see the sort of thing Tim is talking about, see for example
http://digital.lib.msu.edu/projects/ssb/display.cfm?
TitleID=610Format=jpgPageNum=26 .
That's a little different than the conventions Tim wants, but close.

To get the dots-with-a-simple-barline, you can make a custom stencil, like
this

# (define (barDotFn grob)
  (interpret-markup
   (ly:grob-layout grob)
   '(((baseline-skip . 1) (word-space . 0.4) (thickness . 1.9)))
   (markup
 #:right-align
 #:vcenter
 #:line (
 #:vcenter
 #:column (#:draw-circle 0.2 0 #t #:draw-circle 0.2 0 #t )
 #:raise 2 #:draw-line '(0 . -4)) ) ))

...

\repeat volta 2 {
...
e4 c8 g'4 b,8 |
} \alternative { 
{ 
e2 c2
\once \override Staff.BarLine #'stencil = #barDotFn
} 
{ \partial 8*6 e2. c2. | } 
} 

(maybe there's a simpler way...)

Michael






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Re: Can't get it to look like I want it to

2009-02-16 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Tim Slattery wrote:

I still can't get my output to look the way I want it to.Maybe
Lilypond just doesn't do this.

Traditional Sacred Harp music uses four dots, one between each line,
for a repeat symbol. It looks just like what you get when you specify
\bar:. The beginning of a repeat often starts in the middle of a
measure, and I've gotten that effect by doing this (in a 6/8 song):

| g2 \bar : r8 g8 |
  
The code I sent you should produce the same result. The advantage of 
using a combination of \repeat and \bar as I proposed, is that you 
easily can use \unfoldRepeats to get all repeats played in the MIDI 
version (see section 3.5.4, Repeats  in MIDI). Also, it agrees better 
with the philosophy that the input should describe the musical meaning, 
not only the desired layout.

I don't know why it doesn't complain about the wrong number of beats
in a measure, but it doesn't.
  
Why should it, it's very common to have repeats or double bars in the 
middle of a measure.

The other end of the repeat is at the end of a measure, so it should
like the \bar: symbol immediately followed by a normal bar line. And
that I cannot do.
  
You have already received a very nice answer to this question. Again, I 
propose to use it in combination with a standard \repeat construct.


   /Mats


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