Re: Evince/Adobe printing adds margins and scales down the score

2016-08-19 Thread Wols Lists
On 17/08/16 10:43, Urs Liska wrote:
> 
> 
> Am 17.08.2016 um 11:33 schrieb Federico Bruni:
>> Hi folks
>>
>> I've tried printing a score with Evince and I see that it adds margins
>> on left, right, top and bottom and scales down the score size to fit
>> it on the page (line-width=17,40 cm). Is it a known issue?
> 
> Does it really to this even when you disable rescaling in the print options?
> 
My experience with Adobe, was that if you did that, then Adobe would
shift your page down and right, so that the top left corner of your page
was the top left corner of its printable area.

I gave up - I just couldn't get it to reliably print an A4 image on an
A4 sheet of paper ... :-(

Cheers,
Wol


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Re: Evince/Adobe printing adds margins and scales down the score

2016-08-18 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno gio 18 ago 2016 alle 16:59, Johan Vromans 
 ha scritto:

On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 16:36:26 +0200
Federico Bruni  wrote:

 > Does it really to this even when you disable rescaling in the 
print

 > options?

 I'm now using a different printer from yesterday and no, it doesn't
 help if I disable rescaling.


Most likely evince prints through CUPS. Have you checked the
printer settings that CUPS uses?


Yes..  maybe I missed a configuration option (borderless).  If I launch:

 LANG=C gnome-control-center printers

I see two relevant options:

1. Shrink page if necessary to fit borders: I chose "Crop (preserve 
dimensions)".

2. Borderless: I chose "Yes".

But I don't have time now to test the printing.




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Re: Evince/Adobe printing adds margins and scales down the score

2016-08-18 Thread Johan Vromans
On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 16:36:26 +0200
Federico Bruni  wrote:

> > Does it really to this even when you disable rescaling in the print 
> > options?  
> 
> I'm now using a different printer from yesterday and no, it doesn't 
> help if I disable rescaling.

Most likely evince prints through CUPS. Have you checked the
printer settings that CUPS uses?

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Re: Evince/Adobe printing adds margins and scales down the score

2016-08-18 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno mer 17 ago 2016 alle 11:43, Urs Liska  ha 
scritto:
 I've tried printing a score with Evince and I see that it adds 
margins

 on left, right, top and bottom and scales down the score size to fit
 it on the page (line-width=17,40 cm). Is it a known issue?


Does it really to this even when you disable rescaling in the print 
options?


I'm now using a different printer from yesterday and no, it doesn't 
help if I disable rescaling.






 lpr prints exactly what I see on the screen (line-width=19 cm).

 Adobe also adds some margins and scales down the score, slightly 
less

 than Evince (line-width=17,90 cm)

 If I give a score book to a printer, what should I expect? :-)


If you give it to a professional printer you should expect "correct"
results. Maybe tell them explicitly about your concerns?


Yes, I should work it out.

Thanks
Federico




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Re: Evince/Adobe printing adds margins and scales down the score

2016-08-17 Thread Carl Sorensen


On 8/17/16 3:33 AM, "Federico Bruni"  wrote:

>Hi folks
>
>I've tried printing a score with Evince and I see that it adds margins
>on left, right, top and bottom and scales down the score size to fit it
>on the page (line-width=17,40 cm). Is it a known issue?
>
>lpr prints exactly what I see on the screen (line-width=19 cm).
>
>Adobe also adds some margins and scales down the score, slightly less
>than Evince (line-width=17,90 cm)


I had this problem and was tearing my hair out.  I solved it by defining a
custom paper size with no margins.  My printer had a margin built into the
existing paper size, and Adobe respected that.  When I defined a custom
paper with a margin of zero, everything came out just like I wanted it to.

I hope this will help you.

Thanks,

Carl


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Re: Evince/Adobe printing adds margins and scales down the score

2016-08-17 Thread David Wright
On Wed 17 Aug 2016 at 11:33:58 (+0200), Federico Bruni wrote:
> Hi folks
> 
> I've tried printing a score with Evince and I see that it adds
> margins on left, right, top and bottom and scales down the score
> size to fit it on the page (line-width=17,40 cm). Is it a known
> issue?
> 
> lpr prints exactly what I see on the screen (line-width=19 cm).
> 
> Adobe also adds some margins and scales down the score, slightly
> less than Evince (line-width=17,90 cm)

In my book, that's a good argument not to print directly from
applications but to a PDF queue instead, then print the PDF file
directly with something you can trust, ie lpr or lp.

I use a patched¹ copy of testpage.tex to calibrate the margins imposed
by the printer hardware (and its CUPS driver), and a bash function
that displays a nonce copy of any PDF file with a corresponding frame
superimposed on it, so I know in advance of printing what I'm going to
lose around the edges. My Margins-*.ily files take account of this.
This test function is essential if you're stuck with US paper sizes.

> If I give a score book to a printer, what should I expect? :-)

You should discuss how the printer wants your output (presumably
as PDF files) delivered to them. Their requirements and flexibilty
vary.

When I have A6 booklets printed with fairly small margins, I send
A4 pages which have pairs of A6 pages in collated order (1,20 19,2
etc) duplicated at the top and bottom of each A4 sheet so that the
gutter will be exactly the right size. The printers in Cirencester
like that to be done for them. I also send a crib with A6 pages in
the correct order, because my booklet's pages are unnumbered.

OTOH sending A5 booklet files to my Swindon printer in that form
would be a waste of time as the first thing they do is separate
each page and then size and place them themselves. The margins in
my file are irrelevant to them.

One thing you do need to remember to discuss is where any blank
pages appear (assuming you don't want to insert "this page
intentionally left blank"). There's a tendency for printers to
prefer leaving page 2 blank rather than the last page.

But there's always lots to discuss in terms of paper quality,
weight, brightness, colour etc anyway. Margin size is but a
small part.

¹the patch is from
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/139951/pdflatex-testpage-produces-wrong-margins-for-a4paper
and I'm not sure about being able to distribute a modified file.
However, I document the patch within the printed output, as attached.

Cheers,
David.
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Re: Evince/Adobe printing adds margins and scales down the score

2016-08-17 Thread Urs Liska


Am 17.08.2016 um 11:33 schrieb Federico Bruni:
> Hi folks
>
> I've tried printing a score with Evince and I see that it adds margins
> on left, right, top and bottom and scales down the score size to fit
> it on the page (line-width=17,40 cm). Is it a known issue?

Does it really to this even when you disable rescaling in the print options?

>
> lpr prints exactly what I see on the screen (line-width=19 cm).
>
> Adobe also adds some margins and scales down the score, slightly less
> than Evince (line-width=17,90 cm)
>
> If I give a score book to a printer, what should I expect? :-)

If you give it to a professional printer you should expect "correct"
results. Maybe tell them explicitly about your concerns?

Best
Urs

>
> Thanks
> Federico
>
>
>
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Evince/Adobe printing adds margins and scales down the score

2016-08-17 Thread Federico Bruni

Hi folks

I've tried printing a score with Evince and I see that it adds margins 
on left, right, top and bottom and scales down the score size to fit it 
on the page (line-width=17,40 cm). Is it a known issue?


lpr prints exactly what I see on the screen (line-width=19 cm).

Adobe also adds some margins and scales down the score, slightly less 
than Evince (line-width=17,90 cm)


If I give a score book to a printer, what should I expect? :-)

Thanks
Federico




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Re: Evince and emacs on Ubuntu

2015-10-12 Thread Andrew Bernard
Ahem, a couple of reboots and it all works now. Just one of those things.

Truly beautiful to have working.

Andrew


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Re: Evince and emacs on Ubuntu

2015-10-12 Thread Andrew Bernard
Well I converted my Ubuntu 15.04 to use the latest supported GNOME 3 shell 
instead of Unity. Then as instructed, followed the steps in section 4.1.1 of 
the lilypond usage manual (2.19.28) for GNOME 3 with emacs.

When using evince and clicking a link, I get two new copies of emacs each time, 
even if the emacs server is running (and (server-start) added to init file.)

Any further clues anybody?

Andrew



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Re: Evince and emacs on Ubuntu

2015-10-12 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup  writes:

> Andrew Bernard  writes:
>
>> Does anybody use evince on Ubuntu 15.04 for the point and click link
>> following functionality?
>>
>> I followed these instructions:
>>
>> https://github.com/markk/textedit-ly
>
> Why not the instructions included in LilyPond?
>
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/usage/configuring-the-system-for-point-and-click>
>
>> But clicking a link invokes not one but two copies of emacsclient, and
>> each time you click a note two new copies of emacs are started (not
>> how I thought emacsclient works). Certainly I have something tangled
>> up.
>
> Certainly.

I find that the instructions fail to mention placing

(server-start)

into your .emacs file.  Without that, emacsclient will start a new Emacs
copy.

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Re: Evince and emacs on Ubuntu

2015-10-12 Thread David Kastrup
Andrew Bernard  writes:

> Does anybody use evince on Ubuntu 15.04 for the point and click link
> following functionality?
>
> I followed these instructions:
>
> https://github.com/markk/textedit-ly

Why not the instructions included in LilyPond?

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/usage/configuring-the-system-for-point-and-click>

> But clicking a link invokes not one but two copies of emacsclient, and
> each time you click a note two new copies of emacs are started (not
> how I thought emacsclient works). Certainly I have something tangled
> up.

Certainly.

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Evince and emacs on Ubuntu

2015-10-12 Thread Andrew Bernard
Does anybody use evince on Ubuntu 15.04 for the point and click link following 
functionality?

I followed these instructions:

https://github.com/markk/textedit-ly

But clicking a link invokes not one but two copies of emacsclient, and each 
time you click a note two new copies of emacs are started (not how I thought 
emacsclient works). Certainly I have something tangled up.

Andrew



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Re: Evince

2013-01-09 Thread Johan Vromans
Shane Brandes  writes:

> That bug if it still happening has been around since at least 2009. I saw
> one of my scores the other day with the faulty barlines with that date. I
> recommend using Okular it is in some ways preferable to even Acrobat
> reader.

See http://www.squirrel.nl/pub/xfer/lpev.png . This image was made Sep 24
2008. Left is an enlarged scan of an Acrobat printed page, right is an
enlarged scan of an Evince printed page. Same system, same printer (HP
LaserJet 6MP). You can clearly see that the veritcal bars are too wide.

I cannot reproduce this anymore, so it may be fixed.

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Re: Evince (Was: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?)

2013-01-09 Thread Francisco Vila
2013/1/9 Shane Brandes :
> That bug if it still happening has been around since at least 2009. I saw
> one of my scores the other day with the faulty barlines with that date. I
> recommend using Okular it is in some ways preferable to even Acrobat reader.

In my experience, this annoying bug is gone and Evince prints just
nicely. I could be wrong, but LilyPond also got a bug fixed which
innecesarily wrapped barlines into rounded rectangles of zero line
width, or something. Both bugs did cooperate to print thick barlines
but now both are fixed.

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Re: Evince (Was: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?)

2013-01-09 Thread Shane Brandes
That bug if it still happening has been around since at least 2009. I saw
one of my scores the other day with the faulty barlines with that date. I
recommend using Okular it is in some ways preferable to even Acrobat
reader.

Shane

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 5:08 AM, Carlo Stemberger  wrote:

> Il 08/01/2013 08:14, Johan Vromans ha scritto:
>
>  Although I use evince all of the time, I never use it for printing
>> LilyPond scores. There are (very long standing) bugs in its printing engine
>> that particularly affect LilyPond pdfs. For example, vertical bars are
>> printed be much too black, and several other small but annoying things.
>> Acrobat Reader does it well, fortunately Ghostscript also does it well.
>>
>
> Maybe fixed?
>
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/**show_bug.cgi?id=20714<https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20714>
>
> If the problem still happens, we should reopen this bug report.
>
> Carlo
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Re: Evince

2013-01-08 Thread Johan Vromans
Carlo Stemberger  writes:

> Maybe fixed?
>
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20714

That could very well be the case. After a couple of years on
non-response I lost interest in the bug and just stuck to "never print
LilyPond pdf's with evince"...

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Re: Evince (Was: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?)

2013-01-08 Thread Carlo Stemberger

Il 08/01/2013 08:14, Johan Vromans ha scritto:
Although I use evince all of the time, I never use it for printing 
LilyPond scores. There are (very long standing) bugs in its printing 
engine that particularly affect LilyPond pdfs. For example, vertical 
bars are printed be much too black, and several other small but 
annoying things. Acrobat Reader does it well, fortunately Ghostscript 
also does it well.


Maybe fixed?

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20714

If the problem still happens, we should reopen this bug report.

Carlo

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Evince (Was: Replacement suggestions for Century Schoolbook?)

2013-01-07 Thread Johan Vromans
Thomas Morley  writes:

> I recently wrote a draw-dashed-line-markup-command.
>
> During development I made the experience that evince didn't print all
> dots in all cases.
> Adobe did.
> So I wouldn't want to miss it.

Although I use evince all of the time, I never use it for printing
LilyPond scores. There are (very long standing) bugs in its printing
engine that particularly affect LilyPond pdfs. For example, vertical
bars are printed be much too black, and several other small but annoying
things.

Acrobat Reader does it well, fortunately Ghostscript also does it well.

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Re: evince handling textedit:// -- updated version

2012-10-10 Thread Rutger Hofman

On 10/10/2012 03:05 PM, Mark Knoop wrote:

There is now a new version of this in Python which should work better
for most people. Now configurable to your favourite editor.

https://github.com/markk/textedit-ly



All versions you posted, and all efforts I had carried out independently 
before, came to the same result: evince reports that it has a 
'permission denied' on the textedit_url.sh or textedit.py or whatever 
script I had installed. However, invoking gnome-open with the right 
parameter worked.


It turns out that Ubuntu (I'm on 12.0.4) no longer uses gnome-open, but 
another mechanism, exo-open (?). AppArmor (?) now prevents evince from 
opening external links. I found a solution in 
http://xubuntugeek.blogspot.nl/2012/05/fix-evince-is-unable-to-open-external.html


$ sudo ln -s /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.evince 
/etc/apparmor.d/disable/usr.bin.evince

$ sudo service apparmor restart

And voila, point-and-click works (again).

Rutger



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Re: evince handling textedit:// -- updated version

2012-10-10 Thread Mark Knoop
There is now a new version of this in Python which should work better
for most people. Now configurable to your favourite editor.

https://github.com/markk/textedit-ly

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Re: evince handling textedit://

2012-10-09 Thread Laura Conrad
> "Stjepan" == Stjepan Horvat  writes:

Stjepan> did you put the put the textedit-url.sh in your $PATH..
Stjepan> sudo cp ./textedit-url.sh /usr/bin/
Stjepan> sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/textedit-url.sh

$ ls -l ~/bin/textedit-url.sh
-rwxrwxr-x 1 lconrad lconrad 1385 Oct  9 10:40 /home/lconrad/bin/textedit-url.sh
$ which textedit-url.sh
/home/lconrad/bin/textedit-url.sh
$ 

Stjepan> and put the textedit.desktop in
Stjepan> ~/.local/share/applications/

I have now.

$ ls -l ~/.local/share/applications/textedit.desktop
-rw-rw-r-- 1 lconrad lconrad 129 Oct  9 11:51 
/home/lconrad/.local/share/applications/textedit.desktop
$

Stjepan> and add the line x-scheme-handler/textedit=textedit.desktop; in

Stjepan> gedit ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list

Stjepan> in section [Added Associations]..

tail ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
[Added Associations]
x-scheme-handler/file=exo-file-manager.desktop
x-scheme-handler/trash=exo-file-manager.desktop
x-scheme-handler/textedit=textedit.desktop
$


I'm doing this in two different user accounts, and the one I actually
want to use is still giving me the red box, but the other one now gives
me a message in the terminal:

/home/lconrad/bin/textedit-url.sh: 12: /home/lconrad/bin/textedit-url.sh: Bad 
substitution

and in textedit_url.log, I have:

tail -f ~/textedit_url.log
textedit:///home/newlily/music/ruffo/perfidioso/cantusnotes.ly:3:10:10

Which I assume is the kind of thing we want to see.  

I notice that the red box in the publishing user says "Operation not
supported" rather than "The specified location is not supported".

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mathematical system of megaphones, wheels, cogs, disks, cylinders, and
all manner of revolving things which are as like real art as the
marble statue of Eve is like her beautiful living breathing daughters.

Under such conditions, the tide of amateurism cannot but recede until
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executant. Singing will no longer be a fine accomplishment; vocal
exercises so important a factor in the curriculum of physical culture
will be out of vogue. Then what of the national throat? Will it not
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Re: evince handling textedit://

2012-10-09 Thread Stjepan Horvat
did you put the put the textedit-url.sh in your $PATH..

sudo cp ./textedit-url.sh /usr/bin/
sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/textedit-url.sh

and put the textedit.desktop in ~/.local/share/applications/

cp ./textedit.desktop .local/share/applications/

and add the line x-scheme-handler/textedit=textedit.desktop; in

gedit ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list

in section [Added Associations]..

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Laura Conrad  wrote:

> >>>>> "Stjepan" == Stjepan Horvat  writes:
>
> Stjepan> you can make log file with touch ~/textedit_url.log .
> Stjepan> and your textedit-url.sh has to be in your $PATH..
>
> It is.  I touched the log file, and it now exists, but is empty, even
> after running evince and getting the red error box as before.
>
>
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> It's no answer to say that I was well paid. Nobody can be adequately
> paid for wasting his time.
>
> Raymond Chandler, in a letter to Alfred Hitchcock dated December 6,
> 1950, complaining about what had happened to his script for "Strangers
> on a Train"
>
>


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Re: evince handling textedit://

2012-10-09 Thread Laura Conrad
>>>>> "Stjepan" == Stjepan Horvat  writes:

Stjepan> you can make log file with touch ~/textedit_url.log .
Stjepan> and your textedit-url.sh has to be in your $PATH..

It is.  I touched the log file, and it now exists, but is empty, even
after running evince and getting the red error box as before.


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It's no answer to say that I was well paid. Nobody can be adequately
paid for wasting his time.

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1950, complaining about what had happened to his script for "Strangers
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Re: evince handling textedit://

2012-10-09 Thread Stjepan Horvat
you can make log file with touch ~/textedit_url.log .
and your textedit-url.sh has to be in your $PATH..

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Laura Conrad  wrote:

> >>>>> "Mark" == Mark Knoop  writes:
>
> Mark> Thanks for prompting me to update this. Gnome 3 no longer uses
> the
> Mark> gconf key, it's now actually a little easier. I've put the info
> and
> Mark> necessary files here:
>
> Mark> https://github.com/markk/textedit-ly
>
> Mark> Let me know if this works for you.
>
> Not for me.  When I click the notehead, evince pops up a red box that says:
>
> Unable to open external link
> The specified location is not supported
>
> I also can't do "tail -f ~/textedit_url.log" because the file doesn't
> exist, either before or after I've opened the PDF file.
>
> This is on an ubuntu 12.04 system running "GNOME Document Viewer 3.4.0".
> The PDF file was produced with lilypond 2.16.0.
>
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> I suppose it can be said I'm an absent-minded driver.  It's true that
> I've driven through a number of red lights on occasion, but on the
> other hand I've stopped at a lot of green ones but never gotten credit
> for it.
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Re: evince handling textedit://

2012-10-09 Thread Laura Conrad
>>>>> "Mark" == Mark Knoop  writes:

Mark> Thanks for prompting me to update this. Gnome 3 no longer uses the
Mark> gconf key, it's now actually a little easier. I've put the info and
Mark> necessary files here:

Mark> https://github.com/markk/textedit-ly

Mark> Let me know if this works for you.

Not for me.  When I click the notehead, evince pops up a red box that says:

Unable to open external link
The specified location is not supported

I also can't do "tail -f ~/textedit_url.log" because the file doesn't
exist, either before or after I've opened the PDF file.

This is on an ubuntu 12.04 system running "GNOME Document Viewer 3.4.0".
The PDF file was produced with lilypond 2.16.0.

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Re: evince handling textedit://

2012-10-09 Thread Stjepan Horvat
it works..! thanks..:)

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Stjepan Horvat wrote:

> ok..thanks..i will check this out later today..
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Mark Knoop  wrote:
>
>> At 21:22 on 07 Oct 2012, Stjepan Horvat wrote:
>> >Hi guys..does anyone has any news on has evince handles textedit..
>> >i found this post
>> >http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2007-06/msg00185.html
>> >from 2007 using gconftool-2 but couldn't get it working..
>> >after i execute the gconftool-2 --install-schema-file=textedit.schemas
>> >i still get -- Unable to open external link Operation not supported
>> >like it didn't remove "Evince ignores the embedded textedit:// urls by
>> >default,"
>> >
>> >i use evince 3.4.0..
>>
>> Thanks for prompting me to update this. Gnome 3 no longer uses the
>> gconf key, it's now actually a little easier. I've put the info and
>> necessary files here:
>>
>> https://github.com/markk/textedit-ly
>>
>> Let me know if this works for you.
>>
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Re: evince handling textedit://

2012-10-09 Thread Stjepan Horvat
ok..thanks..i will check this out later today..

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Mark Knoop  wrote:

> At 21:22 on 07 Oct 2012, Stjepan Horvat wrote:
> >Hi guys..does anyone has any news on has evince handles textedit..
> >i found this post
> >http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2007-06/msg00185.html
> >from 2007 using gconftool-2 but couldn't get it working..
> >after i execute the gconftool-2 --install-schema-file=textedit.schemas
> >i still get -- Unable to open external link Operation not supported
> >like it didn't remove "Evince ignores the embedded textedit:// urls by
> >default,"
> >
> >i use evince 3.4.0..
>
> Thanks for prompting me to update this. Gnome 3 no longer uses the
> gconf key, it's now actually a little easier. I've put the info and
> necessary files here:
>
> https://github.com/markk/textedit-ly
>
> Let me know if this works for you.
>
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Re: evince handling textedit://

2012-10-08 Thread Mark Knoop
At 21:22 on 07 Oct 2012, Stjepan Horvat wrote:
>Hi guys..does anyone has any news on has evince handles textedit..
>i found this post
>http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2007-06/msg00185.html
>from 2007 using gconftool-2 but couldn't get it working..
>after i execute the gconftool-2 --install-schema-file=textedit.schemas
>i still get -- Unable to open external link Operation not supported
>like it didn't remove "Evince ignores the embedded textedit:// urls by
>default,"
>
>i use evince 3.4.0..

Thanks for prompting me to update this. Gnome 3 no longer uses the
gconf key, it's now actually a little easier. I've put the info and
necessary files here:

https://github.com/markk/textedit-ly

Let me know if this works for you.

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evince handling textedit://

2012-10-07 Thread Stjepan Horvat
Hi guys..does anyone has any news on has evince handles textedit..
i found this post
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2007-06/msg00185.html from
2007 using gconftool-2 but couldn't get it working..
after i execute the gconftool-2 --install-schema-file=textedit.schemas
i still get -- Unable to open external link Operation not supported like it
didn't remove "Evince ignores the embedded textedit:// urls by default,"

i use evince 3.4.0..

thanks in advance

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Re: lilypond pdf error/warning messages from Evince

2012-10-01 Thread Martin Tarenskeen


When I load a Lilypond-created pdf file in Evince I see a lot of 
error/warning messages in my console. The PDF looks and prints fine 
though.



Anything to worry about ?


I am working on Linux Fedora 16, using lilypond 2.15.21 evince-3.2.1 
ghostscript-9.04


FYI: Using Fedora 17, Lilypond 2.16.0, Evince 3.4.0, and just having 
yum-updated Ghostscript 9.0.5 the above problems have disappeared. I think 
it must have been a Ghostscript error.


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Re: lilypond pdf error/warning messages from Evince

2011-12-14 Thread Francisco Vila
2011/12/14 Martin Tarenskeen :
> That does not seem the problem here. I still see these messages.

You can produce a minimal PDF from

  { c' } %END

and try launching it into evince. If it shows messages, send it to me.
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Re: lilypond pdf error/warning messages from Evince

2011-12-14 Thread Martin Tarenskeen



On Wed, 14 Dec 2011, Francisco Vila wrote:


2011/12/14 Martin Tarenskeen :


Hi,

When I load a Lilypond-created pdf file in Evince I see a lot of
error/warning messages in my console. The PDF looks and prints fine though.
Anything to worry about ?

I am working on Linux Fedora 16, using lilypond 2.15.21
evince-3.2.1 ghostscript-9.04

Attached: the output from my console if I load a Lilypond pdf score.

If a tiny lilypond example is needed let me know, but I think it happens
with any score.


I recall obtaining lots of messages when the document is open in
evince and lilypond is modifying (creating) it at the same time.  When
the document is done and I newly open it in evince from console, I
don't get any message at all _at_least_ with the latest lilypond
version and the very latest PDF I made with lilypond.


That does not seem the problem here. I still see these messages.

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Re: lilypond pdf error/warning messages from Evince

2011-12-14 Thread Francisco Vila
2011/12/14 Martin Tarenskeen :
>
> Hi,
>
> When I load a Lilypond-created pdf file in Evince I see a lot of
> error/warning messages in my console. The PDF looks and prints fine though.
> Anything to worry about ?
>
> I am working on Linux Fedora 16, using lilypond 2.15.21
> evince-3.2.1 ghostscript-9.04
>
> Attached: the output from my console if I load a Lilypond pdf score.
>
> If a tiny lilypond example is needed let me know, but I think it happens
> with any score.

I recall obtaining lots of messages when the document is open in
evince and lilypond is modifying (creating) it at the same time.  When
the document is done and I newly open it in evince from console, I
don't get any message at all _at_least_ with the latest lilypond
version and the very latest PDF I made with lilypond.

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lilypond pdf error/warning messages from Evince

2011-12-14 Thread Martin Tarenskeen


Hi,

When I load a Lilypond-created pdf file in Evince I see a lot of 
error/warning 
messages in my console. The PDF looks and prints fine though.

Anything to worry about ?

I am working on Linux Fedora 16, using 
lilypond 2.15.21
evince-3.2.1 
ghostscript-9.04


Attached: the output from my console if I load a Lilypond pdf score.

If a tiny lilypond example is needed let me know, but I think it happens 
with any score.


--

MT
Entity: line 5: parser error : Input is not proper UTF-8, indicate encoding !
Bytes: 0xFF 0xFF 0xFF 0xFF
2011-12-14T09:47:07+01:00
   ^
namespace error : Namespace prefix xmp on CreatorTool is not defined
LilyPond 2.15.21
^
Entity: line 8: parser error : Opening and ending tag mismatch: RDF line 4 and 
Description
LilyPond 2.15.21
 ^
namespace error : Namespace prefix rdf for about on Description is not defined
M:DocumentID='uuid:c096387c-5e4c-11ec--89182f7e1f62011-12-14T09:47:07+01:00'
   ^
namespace error : Namespace prefix rdf on Description is not defined
M:DocumentID='uuid:c096387c-5e4c-11ec--89182f7e1f62011-12-14T09:47:07+01:00'
   ^
namespace error : Namespace prefix rdf for about on Description is not defined
7+01:00' xmlns:dc='http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/' dc:format='application/pdf'
   ^
namespace error : Namespace prefix rdf on Description is not defined
7+01:00' xmlns:dc='http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/' dc:format='application/pdf'
   ^
namespace error : Namespace prefix rdf on Alt is not defined
http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/' dc:format='application/pdf'>Tico TicoTico Tico
  ^
Entity: line 12: parser error : Extra content at the end of the document

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Re: evince and textedit

2010-01-28 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Op dinsdag 26 januari 2010 schreef Federico:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to adapt the configuration explained here:
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2007-06/msg00185.html
> 
> I'd like to set Frescobaldi as editor, so I've changed the line in the
> script as follows (I've copied from the preferences of Okular, where
> this works):
> frescobaldi --smart --line %l --column %c
> 
> but it launches Frescobaldi with an empty file.
> 
> If I use this line instead:
> frescobaldi ${LINENUM}:${STARTPOS} ${FILENAME}
> 
> it launches Frescobaldi, opens the right file (but it does not point
> to a specific note (just the beginning of the file)
> plus a strange second file which can't be read and looks empty.

As others already pointed out, you have to insert the variables on the correct 
spot on the Frescobaldi command line:

frescobaldi --smart --line ${LINENUM} --column ${STARTPOS} ${FILENAME}

will work. The option --smart tells Frescobaldi to translate cursor positions 
automatically when you edit the document without running LilyPond again.

(The Okular setting did not need the filename, because it's appended 
automagically by Okular.)

> If I try this, Frescobaldi opens and crashes:
> frescobaldi --smart --line %l --column %c +${LINENUM}:${STARTPOS}
> ${FILENAME}

Thanks for telling this :-) It's not a real crash, but Python exiting with an 
error message about "invalid integer literal" (happened when line or column 
arguments are not numbers). I changed Frescobaldi to ignore invalid 
line/column arguments and just start up normally.

best regards,
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Re: evince and textedit

2010-01-26 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
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Am Dienstag, 26. Januar 2010 17:35:55 schrieb Reinhold Kainhofer:
> I suppose you rather mean:
> frescobaldi --smart --line ${LINENUM} --column %c ${STARTPOS} ${FILENAME}

Oops, sorry, scrap that %c (I missed that one, should have been deleted).

Cheers,
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Re: evince and textedit

2010-01-26 Thread Federico Bruni

.. and the winner is:

frescobaldi --smart --line ${LINENUM} --column ${STARTPOS} ${FILENAME}

Thanks Susan!


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Re: evince and textedit

2010-01-26 Thread Susan Dittmar

Quoting Federico Bruni (brunol...@gmx.com):
> frescobaldi --smart --line %l --column %c
> but it launches Frescobaldi with an empty file.
> 
> If I use this line instead:
> frescobaldi ${LINENUM}:${STARTPOS} ${FILENAME}
> 
> it launches Frescobaldi, opens the right file (but it does not point
> to a specific note (just the beginning of the file)
> plus a strange second file which can't be read and looks empty.
> 
> If I try this, Frescobaldi opens and crashes:
> frescobaldi --smart --line %l --column %c +${LINENUM}:${STARTPOS}
> ${FILENAME}

Just a shot in the dark, as I don't use those programs: try

frescobaldi --smart --line %l --column %c ${FILENAME}

or

frescobaldi --smart --line ${LINENUM} --column ${STARTPOS} ${FILENAME}

Perhaps that helps,

Susan


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Re: evince and textedit

2010-01-26 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
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Am Dienstag, 26. Januar 2010 17:16:04 schrieb Federico Bruni:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to adapt the configuration explained here:
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2007-06/msg00185.html
> 
> I'd like to set Frescobaldi as editor, so I've changed the line in the
> script as follows (I've copied from the preferences of Okular, where
> this works):
> frescobaldi --smart --line %l --column %c
> 
> but it launches Frescobaldi with an empty file.

Of course. You are not passing on the file name to frescobaldi (%l is the line 
number, %c is the column in okular, but where is the file name???)

> If I use this line instead:
> frescobaldi ${LINENUM}:${STARTPOS} ${FILENAME}

Here you are calling e.g.
   frescobaldi 5:3 myfile.ly
of course, frescobaldy understands both arguments as file names, thus the 
first file named "5:3" can't be found or opened... 

You really need to add the --line and --column and pass ${LINENUM} as argument 
of --line and ${STARTPOS} as argument of --column...

> it launches Frescobaldi, opens the right file (but it does not point
> to a specific note (just the beginning of the file)
> plus a strange second file which can't be read and looks empty.
> 
> If I try this, Frescobaldi opens and crashes:
> frescobaldi --smart --line %l --column %c +${LINENUM}:${STARTPOS}
> ${FILENAME}

The %l is defined only by okular as the shortcut where the line number is 
inserted. evince seems to have different shortcuts, so you tell evince to go 
the line numbered "%l", which doesn't make sense...

I suppose you rather mean:
frescobaldi --smart --line ${LINENUM} --column %c ${STARTPOS} ${FILENAME}

Cheers,
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evince and textedit

2010-01-26 Thread Federico Bruni
Hi,

I'm trying to adapt the configuration explained here:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2007-06/msg00185.html

I'd like to set Frescobaldi as editor, so I've changed the line in the
script as follows (I've copied from the preferences of Okular, where
this works):
frescobaldi --smart --line %l --column %c

but it launches Frescobaldi with an empty file.

If I use this line instead:
frescobaldi ${LINENUM}:${STARTPOS} ${FILENAME}

it launches Frescobaldi, opens the right file (but it does not point
to a specific note (just the beginning of the file)
plus a strange second file which can't be read and looks empty.

If I try this, Frescobaldi opens and crashes:
frescobaldi --smart --line %l --column %c +${LINENUM}:${STARTPOS}
${FILENAME}

Any help?

Thanks,
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Re: Printing problem with Evince

2008-09-24 Thread Johan Vromans
Daniel Hulme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> As someone else suggested, try kpdf, or use xpdf, which is what I use.
> xpdf is not really a modern GUI application, but I always use it from
> the command-line anyway.

I use gv, which is ancient but bloody fast.
And yes, printing from the command line works like a charm as well.

It is just evince that screws up the printing.

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Re: Printing problem with Evince

2008-09-24 Thread Johan Vromans
"Francisco Vila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Please note that this has nothing to do with actual printing, Evince
> shows this problem in preview too.

Yes, indeed.

> I'll pass you an URL of the bug.

Thanks!

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Re: Printing problem with Evince

2008-09-24 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/9/24 Daniel Hulme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Usually for printing I just give the PDF to lp, which is the
> command-line client for CUPS. (Ubuntu uses CUPS by default, I believe.)
> I've never had any problems.

Good idea, one always trends to print from the same app he is viewing
the document on, but if you have launched the viewer from command
line, printing from command line as well is even faster. I continue
using evince as gnome standard viewer in Ubuntu, but have tried "lp
file" and prints with no problem. This solves the issue for me; this
behaviour about bar lines is an ugly bug, and not fixed, though.
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Re: Printing problem with Evince

2008-09-24 Thread Daniel Hulme
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 07:48:32AM -0500, Jonathan Kulp wrote:
> I have only a couple of non-free apps on my Ubuntu machines, and Acrobat  
> Reader is one of them because of this problem.  :(

As someone else suggested, try kpdf, or use xpdf, which is what I use.
xpdf is not really a modern GUI application, but I always use it from
the command-line anyway. When zoomed out sometimes it causes little gaps
between stems and noteheads, but it prints fine and shows up properly at
reasonable zoom levels.

Usually for printing I just give the PDF to lp, which is the
command-line client for CUPS. (Ubuntu uses CUPS by default, I believe.)
I've never had any problems.

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Re: Printing problem with Evince

2008-09-24 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Well, I've figured out my problem on Mac, anyway.  I had the same 
printer installed twice but with different drivers (one bad) and I had 
chosen the wrong instance from the dropdown menu.  I've deleted the bad 
one and now printouts look lovely from either Preview or Acrobat. :)


Jon

Francisco Vila wrote:

Please note that this has nothing to do with actual printing, Evince
shows this problem in preview too.

I'll pass you an URL of the bug.


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Re: Printing problem with Evince

2008-09-24 Thread Alexander Kobel
Jonathan Kulp wrote:
> Hmm.  I changed the print driver to a ps one.  That driver wasn't
> available when I was using the cups interface to hook up to the
> printer--very limited options for drivers on Mac's cups system--but once
> the printer was installed that way I was able to reconfigure using the
> regular OSX interface.  I printed a page from Preview and it looks
> great.  :)
I'd be surprised if it has been otherwise. :-)

> [...]
> Maybe I need to specify a higher resolution when running Lilypond on
> this file?  The global staff size is set to 16.  Do you think this is
> why it could be printing with fuzzy edges?  Doesn't seem likely but I
> suppose it's possible...
First, as far as I know there is no way to set the resolution for PDF or
PostScript output. On the other hand, this is because it does not matter
for vector drawings (which are used by LilyPond) anyway. IIRC, PDF uses
like 32bit resolution on the positioning and size of objects, and this
exceeds by far what you're able to distinguish on a printout.
If there's a single program on this planet allowing you to get the
correct view at a high zoom level from the document, it's up to the
printing driver or rendering engine of your viewer.

Generally, you only have to bother with resolution settings unless you
have any rasterized part in your output (embedded PNG or something).


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Re: Printing problem with Evince

2008-09-24 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Hmm.  I changed the print driver to a ps one.  That driver wasn't 
available when I was using the cups interface to hook up to the 
printer--very limited options for drivers on Mac's cups system--but once 
the printer was installed that way I was able to reconfigure using the 
regular OSX interface.  I printed a page from Preview and it looks 
great.  :)


I know I was using a ps driver when I got fuzzy edges, though, because I 
printed an orchestral score on 11x17 paper, and I'm certain that I set 
that printer up using a ps driver--it's the only one in our dept. that 
handles 11x17 paper, and I always set it up with care.  I don't even 
recall now whether I was using Preview or Acrobat when I printed the big 
score, but you can see all kinds of fuzzy edges if you look closely. 
Maybe I need to specify a higher resolution when running Lilypond on 
this file?  The global staff size is set to 16.  Do you think this is 
why it could be printing with fuzzy edges?  Doesn't seem likely but I 
suppose it's possible...


Jon

Alexander Kobel wrote:

Jonathan Kulp wrote:

I haven't looked very far into it.  I use Preview for previewing things,
because as you say it's very fast, but if I have to print it and make it
look good, I use Adobe Reader.  It's probably the print driver, because
when I zoom in on-screen everything looks great on Preview.  Maybe I'll
redo the printer setup.


Well, than it is strange that the Adobe reader does a better job. Does
Adobe rasterize everything before printing by default?



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Re: Printing problem with Evince

2008-09-24 Thread Francisco Vila
Please note that this has nothing to do with actual printing, Evince
shows this problem in preview too.

I'll pass you an URL of the bug.
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Re: Printing problem with Evince

2008-09-24 Thread Alexander Kobel
Jonathan Kulp wrote:
> I haven't looked very far into it.  I use Preview for previewing things,
> because as you say it's very fast, but if I have to print it and make it
> look good, I use Adobe Reader.  It's probably the print driver, because
> when I zoom in on-screen everything looks great on Preview.  Maybe I'll
> redo the printer setup.

Well, than it is strange that the Adobe reader does a better job. Does
Adobe rasterize everything before printing by default?


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Re: Printing problem with Evince

2008-09-24 Thread Jonathan Kulp
I haven't looked very far into it.  I use Preview for previewing things, 
because as you say it's very fast, but if I have to print it and make it 
look good, I use Adobe Reader.  It's probably the print driver, because 
when I zoom in on-screen everything looks great on Preview.  Maybe I'll 
redo the printer setup.


Jon

Alexander Kobel wrote:


But also the on-screen rendering of both PDF and PostScript looks
absolutely fine even at extreme zoom levels---lines and rounded boxes as
well as fonts---, so it might be a problem with your printer driver on Mac?



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Re: Printing problem with Evince

2008-09-24 Thread Johan Vromans
"Francisco Vila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> see http://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg37172.html

AFAICS (and you can see it on my example pics too) this has nothing to
do with the form that evince renders the rounded rectangles that
barlines are made from. It looks as if it renders everything with a
very low resolution, like an ancient dot matrix printer.

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Re: Printing problem with Evince

2008-09-24 Thread Alexander Kobel
Jonathan Kulp wrote:
> I have only a couple of non-free apps on my Ubuntu machines, and Acrobat
> Reader is one of them because of this problem.  :(
> 
> Jon
> 
> p.s. BTW, Apple's Preview also seems to render lilypond-generated .pdf
> files badly compared to Acrobat Reader.  At least when I print them they
> look terrible from Preview.

Huh? No problems with the latter one here; by now, I only start the
Adobe reader for presentations on my Mac (Leopard). Preview is just
/way/ faster.

On the other hand, I have a printer employing built-in PostScript
support (which I, by the way, really recommend for anyone not using
Windows exclusively; though you sometimes have to wait for complicated
vector drawings, unless you're investing a good amount of money).
But also the on-screen rendering of both PDF and PostScript looks
absolutely fine even at extreme zoom levels---lines and rounded boxes as
well as fonts---, so it might be a problem with your printer driver on Mac?


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Re: Printing problem with Evince

2008-09-24 Thread Johan Vromans
"Francisco Vila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 2008/9/24 Francisco Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I also posted a bug report for this in the appropiate component, but
> nobody in the devel team for Evince seems to be willing to investigate
> it.

Do you have an URL so I can add some incentive?

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Re: Printing problem with Evince

2008-09-24 Thread Francisco Vila
see http://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg37172.html
and others.

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Re: Printing problem with Evince

2008-09-24 Thread Jonathan Kulp
I have only a couple of non-free apps on my Ubuntu machines, and Acrobat 
Reader is one of them because of this problem.  :(


Jon

p.s. BTW, Apple's Preview also seems to render lilypond-generated .pdf 
files badly compared to Acrobat Reader.  At least when I print them they 
look terrible from Preview.


Francisco Vila wrote:

2008/9/24 Johan Vromans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

I noticed that Evince (I have Fedora 8 with Evince 2.20.2) does a
lousy job on printing LilyPond scores. It may do a bad job on other
prints as well, but the effect on LilyPond scores is dramatic.

See for yourself: http://www.squirrel.nl/pub/xfer/lpev.png .

Image left is scanned from a print by Acrobat, the image right is a
scan from a print produced by Evince. Both programs printed to the
same 600dpi HP Laserjet which involves a Ghostscript filter.

This may be a known issue, though I could not find any references to
it.

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I reported the same problem with very similar pictures. This seems to
be a fault of the bad rendering Evince does from the thin rounded
rectangles that LilyPond makes for barlines. Use kpdf. :-(


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Re: Printing problem with Evince

2008-09-24 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/9/24 Francisco Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I reported the same problem with very similar pictures. This seems to
> be a fault of the bad rendering Evince does from the thin rounded
> rectangles that LilyPond makes for barlines. Use kpdf. :-(

I also posted a bug report for this in the appropiate component, but
nobody in the devel team for Evince seems to be willing to investigate
it.
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Re: Printing problem with Evince

2008-09-24 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/9/24 Johan Vromans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I noticed that Evince (I have Fedora 8 with Evince 2.20.2) does a
> lousy job on printing LilyPond scores. It may do a bad job on other
> prints as well, but the effect on LilyPond scores is dramatic.
>
> See for yourself: http://www.squirrel.nl/pub/xfer/lpev.png .
>
> Image left is scanned from a print by Acrobat, the image right is a
> scan from a print produced by Evince. Both programs printed to the
> same 600dpi HP Laserjet which involves a Ghostscript filter.
>
> This may be a known issue, though I could not find any references to
> it.
>
> -- Johan
>   Chord is alive! http://chordii.sourceforge.net

I reported the same problem with very similar pictures. This seems to
be a fault of the bad rendering Evince does from the thin rounded
rectangles that LilyPond makes for barlines. Use kpdf. :-(
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Printing problem with Evince

2008-09-24 Thread Johan Vromans
I noticed that Evince (I have Fedora 8 with Evince 2.20.2) does a
lousy job on printing LilyPond scores. It may do a bad job on other
prints as well, but the effect on LilyPond scores is dramatic.

See for yourself: http://www.squirrel.nl/pub/xfer/lpev.png .

Image left is scanned from a print by Acrobat, the image right is a
scan from a print produced by Evince. Both programs printed to the
same 600dpi HP Laserjet which involves a Ghostscript filter.

This may be a known issue, though I could not find any references to
it.

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evince (...Re: an output question)

2008-05-21 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/5/21 David Pirotte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> evince [gnome document viewer] will do that for you as well,
> i am using it a lot and i am quite happy, it's been improved a
> lot recently [i am using version 2.20.2]

David, speaking of evince, maybe you experience the same problem with
exaggerated barline thickness that I reported here some time ago. If
you know about other evince&lilypond users, please let me know.

On latest Ubuntu, sadly this has not been fixed. The issue is a very
strange one because:
- a command-line lpr of the pdf gives a good output;
- kpdf does not show this behaviour, being based on the same rendering
engine, namely xpdf (am I wrong?)
- thickened barlines are shown both in screen and onto printer.

The core developers pointed me that this might be a bug in the form
that evince renders the (thin!) rounded rectangles that barlines are
made from.

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Re: point-and-click in evince

2008-02-06 Thread Nicholas WASTELL
On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 05:05:54 -0500, Anh Hai Trinh wrote:

> I am wondering if there is a way to set up point-and-click with GNOME
> Evince?

Hello,

Yes, it is possible, but I can't help you directly.  If you go to
<http://www.nabble.com/Gnu---Lilypond---User-f1722.html> and search for 
'point and click', there are several threads with more information.

I have found the easiest way to get a (fairly) well integrated lilypond 
environment is by using jEdit and Lilypondtool.  This includes a pdf 
viewer with support for point-and-click, amongst many other features.  I 
does mean that you have to use jEdit instead of another (preferred) 
editor, of course.

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point-and-click in evince

2008-02-06 Thread Anh Hai Trinh

Hello lilypond-users,

I am wondering if there is a way to set up point-and-click with GNOME  
Evince? That would be really nice.


Thank you all,
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Re: evince doesn't display 3's

2005-08-17 Thread Steve D
On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 11:59:20PM -0700, D Josiah Boothby wrote:
> Graham Percival wrote:
> 
> >
> >On 16-Aug-05, at 8:03 PM, D Josiah Boothby wrote:
> >
> >>Using the 2.6.0 autopackage on Debian sarge/sid, Evince (v. 0.3.0) 
> >>doesn't display the 3's in the time signatures.
--- ---

I know what you are talking about. I mentioned it a few weeks ago in
this lilypond-user message to which I attached a small image of the
anomaly:

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2005-07/msg00317.html

However, when I print the scores with 3/4 or 5/4 time signatures, the
printed copy looks perfect. Therefore I assume it is a problem with how
the .pdf files are currently *displayed* by evince and some (but
apparently not all) PDF or PostScript viewers, rather than a problem
with the underlying .ps or .pdf file itself, or with LilyPond.

Please try printing the file, and see if the 3s and 5s in the time
signatures are printed correctly.

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Re: pdf display (was Re: evince doesn't display 3's)

2005-08-17 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

D Josiah Boothby wrote:
For the sake of completeness, I set the default version of ghostscript 
to gs-gpl, ran the file through lilypond again, then viewed the file 
with all of the pdf viewers that are on my system (which I believe to be 
all of the pdf viewers available through the standard debian repositories).


there have been reports with evince bugs, which were supposedly fixed in 
a newer release.  Please search the lilypond mailing lists for more 
information.


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pdf display (was Re: evince doesn't display 3's)

2005-08-17 Thread D Josiah Boothby
For the sake of completeness, I set the default version of ghostscript 
to gs-gpl, ran the file through lilypond again, then viewed the file 
with all of the pdf viewers that are on my system (which I believe to be 
all of the pdf viewers available through the standard debian repositories).


Acrobat Reader (7.0) looks fine:
http://students.washington.edu/josiah/lilypond/threes-acroread.jpg

Evince (0.3.0) doesn't show the 3's or 5's in the time signatures:
http://students.washington.edu/josiah/lilypond/threes-evince.jpg

GGV (Gnome Ghostview 2.8.5) doesn't show anything, for .pdf or .ps, and 
no error message is shown at the command line:

http://students.washington.edu/josiah/lilypond/threes-ggv.jpg

GPDF (Gnome PDF Viewer 2.8.2) displays the 3's and 5's, but mangles them:
http://students.washington.edu/josiah/lilypond/threes-gpdf.jpg

GV (3.6.1) looks fine:
http://students.washington.edu/josiah/lilypond/threes-gv.jpg

For KGhostview and KPDF, when I used the version switch at the command 
line, I got not only their versions, but the Qt version (3.3.4) and the 
KDE version (3.3.2).


KGhostview (0.20) looks fine:
http://students.washington.edu/josiah/lilypond/threes-kghostview.jpg

KPDF (0.3.3) has the same problem as Evince, it doesn't show the 3's or 
the 5's:

http://students.washington.edu/josiah/lilypond/threes-kpdf.jpg

GNUStep PDF viewer, ViewPDF (0.9) displays absolutely nothing. When I 
open the file through the command line, the program is opened, but 
without the file; when I open the file manually, debugging info is 
printed at the command line, and the following window pops up:

http://students.washington.edu/josiah/lilypond/threes-viewpdf.jpg

And finally, Xpdf (3.00) looks fine:
http://students.washington.edu/josiah/lilypond/threes-xpdf.jpg

Should I also send this email, along with the appropriate files, to the 
mailing lists for Evince, GGV, GPDF, KPDF, and the GNUStep crowd?


Josiah

PS, in case they're useful, the .ly, .pdf and .ps file can be found here:
http://students.washington.edu/josiah/lilypond/threes.ly
http://students.washington.edu/josiah/lilypond/threes.pdf
http://students.washington.edu/josiah/lilypond/threes.ps




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Re: evince doesn't display 3's

2005-08-17 Thread D Josiah Boothby

Graham Percival wrote:



On 16-Aug-05, at 8:03 PM, D Josiah Boothby wrote:

Using the 2.6.0 autopackage on Debian sarge/sid, Evince (v. 0.3.0) 
doesn't display the 3's in the time signatures.



Please file a bug report with evince, then.  (?)


Looking more carefully

I don't know if -- or how to find out if -- it's a problem with Evince, 
Lilypond, or Ghostscript. Since, in my limited experience with using 
Evince, I've only had problems looking at Lilypond output, and since I 
have other problems when using GV, and still yet other problems with 
acroread, I can only suspect that it's a problem with Lilypond. 
Unfortunately, I haven't got the faintest idea how to diagnose this further.


The problems I've had with acroread may have gone away since the upgrade 
from 2.4 to 2.6. The problems that I've had with GV seem to be when the 
/etc/alternatives (I think this is Debian specific, but I don't know) 
settings have me viewing files with gs-esp, but I don't have them when 
using gs-afpl or gs-gpl. I have gs-afpl (8.14), gs-esp (8.15) and gs-gpl 
(8.15) all installed.


I've probably just mentioned a new problem that deserves a separate 
look, but the case remains that I can't determine what link of the chain 
is faulty: Evince, Lilypond, or Ghostscript.


Josiah


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Re: evince doesn't display 3's

2005-08-16 Thread Graham Percival


On 16-Aug-05, at 8:03 PM, D Josiah Boothby wrote:

Using the 2.6.0 autopackage on Debian sarge/sid, Evince (v. 0.3.0) 
doesn't display the 3's in the time signatures.


Please file a bug report with evince, then.  (?)



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evince doesn't display 3's

2005-08-16 Thread D Josiah Boothby
Using the 2.6.0 autopackage on Debian sarge/sid, Evince (v. 0.3.0) 
doesn't display the 3's in the time signatures.


An example .ly file:

\version "2.6.0"

\score {
 \relative c' {
   \time 3/4 d2.
   \time 7/8 e2..
   \time 2/4 f2
   \time 3/8 es4.
   \time 5/8 ges4 f4.
   \time 4/8 e2
   \time 3/2 d1.
 }
}


A .pdf of the example:
http://students.washington.edu/josiah/lilypond/threes.pdf

A .png of the example:
http://students.washington.edu/josiah/lilypond/threes.png

A .ps of the example:
http://students.washington.edu/josiah/lilypond/threes.ps

And a screenshot of viewing the file in Evince:
http://students.washington.edu/josiah/lilypond/threes-evince.jpg

Josiah


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