Re: transposing cues

2014-04-07 Thread David Kastrup
Paul Scott  writes:

> On Sun, Apr 06, 2014 at 08:49:50AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
>> Paul Scott  writes:
>> 
>> > Now how can I write a clarinet part that goes back and forth 
>> > between Bb and A and get the cues transposed correcly?
>> 
>> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/displaying-pitches#index-transposition_002c-instrument>
>> 
>> Second example.
>
> My apologies for poor statement of the question!  The above I am quite 
> familiar with.
>
> I think your answer to my previous question about transposing cues 
> will solve my problem with some work on my part.  The following 
> modification of the documented example may or may not illustrate my 
> need.  I actually now have an untransposed (concert pitch) 
> clarinet part with cues that I want to make into a clarinet part where 
> each section can be played on the clarinet that is easiest.

Sorry, but that's totally obfuscate.  You are inputting some stuff in B,
inputting some stuff in A, juggling around and transposing stuff.  It is
not clear what instruments should be playing the stuff in the end for
what reason.

When you _quote_ music, its \transpose setting is considered in the
quote.  Quotes refer to concert pitch.

When you put stuff in variables without knowing what transposition they
are supposed to be used for, don't put a \transpose statement into the
variable.  Instead, specify the \transpose where you actually know what
instrument you are playing.

> The last flute cue is not transposed correctly which I guess 
> is answered by your previous answer.

So what are you aiming for?  You have the answer, know what you are
supposed to do but would like somebody else to do it?

I don't get it.  Or at least I hope so.

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Re: transposing cues

2014-04-06 Thread Paul Scott
On Sun, Apr 06, 2014 at 08:49:50AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
> Paul Scott  writes:
> 
> > Now how can I write a clarinet part that goes back and forth 
> > between Bb and A and get the cues transposed correcly?
> 
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/displaying-pitches#index-transposition_002c-instrument>
> 
> Second example.

My apologies for poor statement of the question!  The above I am quite 
familiar with.

I think your answer to my previous question about transposing cues 
will solve my problem with some work on my part.  The following 
modification of the documented example may or may not illustrate my 
need.  I actually now have an untransposed (concert pitch) 
clarinet part with cues that I want to make into a clarinet part where 
each section can be played on the clarinet that is easiest.

\version "2.19.3"

flute = \relative c'' {
  \key f \major
  \cueDuring #"clarinet" #DOWN {
R1 _\markup\tiny "clarinet"
c4 f e d
R1 _\markup\tiny "clarinet"
c4 f e d 
  }
}
\addQuote flute \flute 
clarinetA = \relative c'' {
  \key aes \major
  \transposition a
  aes4 bes c des
%  <>^\markup { muta in B\flat }
  \cueDuring flute #up R1 
}
clarinetB = \relative c'' {
  \key g \major
  \transposition bes
  d2 g,
  \cueDuring flute #up R1 
}
clarinet = { \clarinetA \transpose a bes \clarinetB } 
\addQuote "clarinet" \clarinet
<<
  \new Staff \with { instrumentName = #"Flute" }
\flute
  \new Staff \with { instrumentName = #"Cl (A)" }
\clarinet
>>

The last flute cue is not transposed correctly which I guess 
is answered by your previous answer.

Paul

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Re: transposing cues

2014-04-06 Thread David Kastrup
Paul Scott  writes:

> Now how can I write a clarinet part that goes back and forth 
> between Bb and A and get the cues transposed correcly?

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/displaying-pitches#index-transposition_002c-instrument>

Second example.

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Re: transposing cues

2014-04-05 Thread Paul Scott
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 04:33:38AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
> Paul Scott  writes:
> 
> > 2.19.3:
> > When transposing parts that use cueDuring or quoteDuring how 
> > can I get the cues or quotes to be transposed?  I thought this 
> > worked easily in a fairly recent version.
> >
> > In the following I would want the flute cue to be transposed 
> > along with the clarinet notes.
> 
> \transposition is not in itself transposed, so if you use music for
> different transpositions, you have to put the \transpose where you
> establish the transposition.
> 

> fluteMusic = \relative{ 
>   \transposition c'
>   c''1 d e 
> }
> \addQuote qfl \fluteMusic 
> 
> clarinetMusic = \relative{ 
>   <>^\markup\tiny{(Fl.)} 
>   \cueDuring qfl #up R1 
>   b'1 c 
> }
> 
> \score{
>   \new StaffGroup << 
> \new Staff {
>   \set Staff.instrumentName = "Flute"
>   \new Voice \fluteMusic
> }
> \new Staff {
>   \set Staff.instrumentName = "Bb Clarinet"
>   \transposition bes
>   \new Voice \clarinetMusic
> }
> \new Staff {
>   \set Staff.instrumentName = "A Clarinet"
>   \transposition a
>   \new Voice \transpose a bes \clarinetMusic 
> }
>   >>
>   \layout{ \context{ indent  = 0.7\in } }
> }

> -- 
> David Kastrup

Thank you.

Now how can I write a clarinet part that goes back and forth 
between Bb and A and get the cues transposed correcly?

Thank you in advance for a better understanding of \transpose and 
\transposition that will allow this.

Paul




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Re: transposing cues

2014-03-23 Thread Paul Scott
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 04:33:38AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
> Paul Scott  writes:
> 
> > 2.19.3:
> > When transposing parts that use cueDuring or quoteDuring how 
> > can I get the cues or quotes to be transposed?  I thought this 
> > worked easily in a fairly recent version.
> >
> > In the following I would want the flute cue to be transposed 
> > along with the clarinet notes.
> 
> \transposition is not in itself transposed, so if you use music for
> different transpositions, you have to put the \transpose where you
> establish the transposition.

Thank you!

Paul

> 

> fluteMusic = \relative{ 
>   \transposition c'
>   c''1 d e 
> }
> \addQuote qfl \fluteMusic 
> 
> clarinetMusic = \relative{ 
>   <>^\markup\tiny{(Fl.)} 
>   \cueDuring qfl #up R1 
>   b'1 c 
> }
> 
> \score{
>   \new StaffGroup << 
> \new Staff {
>   \set Staff.instrumentName = "Flute"
>   \new Voice \fluteMusic
> }
> \new Staff {
>   \set Staff.instrumentName = "Bb Clarinet"
>   \transposition bes
>   \new Voice \clarinetMusic
> }
> \new Staff {
>   \set Staff.instrumentName = "A Clarinet"
>   \transposition a
>   \new Voice \transpose a bes \clarinetMusic 
> }
>   >>
>   \layout{ \context{ indent  = 0.7\in } }
> }

> 
> 
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Re: transposing cues

2014-03-23 Thread David Kastrup
Paul Scott  writes:

> 2.19.3:
> When transposing parts that use cueDuring or quoteDuring how 
> can I get the cues or quotes to be transposed?  I thought this 
> worked easily in a fairly recent version.
>
> In the following I would want the flute cue to be transposed 
> along with the clarinet notes.

\transposition is not in itself transposed, so if you use music for
different transpositions, you have to put the \transpose where you
establish the transposition.

fluteMusic = \relative{ 
  \transposition c'
  c''1 d e 
}
\addQuote qfl \fluteMusic 

clarinetMusic = \relative{ 
  <>^\markup\tiny{(Fl.)} 
  \cueDuring qfl #up R1 
  b'1 c 
}

\score{
  \new StaffGroup << 
\new Staff {
  \set Staff.instrumentName = "Flute"
  \new Voice \fluteMusic
}
\new Staff {
  \set Staff.instrumentName = "Bb Clarinet"
  \transposition bes
  \new Voice \clarinetMusic
}
\new Staff {
  \set Staff.instrumentName = "A Clarinet"
  \transposition a
  \new Voice \transpose a bes \clarinetMusic 
}
  >>
  \layout{ \context{ indent  = 0.7\in } }
}


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transposing cues

2014-03-23 Thread Paul Scott
2.19.3:
When transposing parts that use cueDuring or quoteDuring how 
can I get the cues or quotes to be transposed?  I thought this 
worked easily in a fairly recent version.

In the following I would want the flute cue to be transposed 
along with the clarinet notes.

Thanks for any comments or help!

Paul Scott

\version "2.19.3"

fluteMusic = \relative{ 
  \transposition c'
  c''1 d e 
}
\addQuote qfl \fluteMusic 

clarinetMusic = \relative{ 
  \transposition bes 
  <>^\markup\tiny{(Fl.)} 
  \cueDuring qfl #up R1 
  b'1 c 
}

\score{
  \new StaffGroup << 
\new Staff {
  \set Staff.instrumentName = "Flute"
  \new Voice \fluteMusic
}
\new Staff {
  \set Staff.instrumentName = "Bb Clarinet"
  \new Voice \clarinetMusic
}
\new Staff {
  \set Staff.instrumentName = "A Clarinet"
  \new Voice \transpose a bes \clarinetMusic 
}
  >>
  \layout{ \context{ indent  = 0.7\in } }
}



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transposing cues

2014-02-11 Thread Paul Scott
(I have looked this up in the NR)

Should I be able transpose a part including the cues (or quotes)?

\version "2.19.2"

partB = \relative c' { 
  \transposition f 
  \key g \major c'1 d e 
}
\addQuote qb \partB 

partA = \relative c' { 
  \transposition c' 
  \cueDuring qb #down R1 b'1 c 
}

\score{
  \new StaffGroup << 
\new Staff \new Voice \partB
\new Staff \new Voice \partA
\new Staff \new Voice \transpose f c' \partA 
  >>
}

How I can I get the first note in the third staff to be a C above 
middle C?

Thanks for any ideas or corrections of any mistaken understandings 
I may have.

Paul 



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