Re: [OT] Lilach Bien's CV

2005-02-28 Thread Vasiliev Michael
On Monday February 28 2005 17:10, Elad Efrat wrote:
> do you have a picture?
> and congrats for having your id archived for eternity on the www

Hello and welcome! And with your first step you're already walking on my red 
line, buddy. I did not approve your (rather tasteless IMO) comment, so you 
subscribed to push it invery clever. Considering the leak of personal 
information, it is solely a choice of the owner to decide what and when 
should be made public. I, surely speaking for the majority there, would 
approve and encourage sound professional advice, be it posted to the list or, 
preferrably, mailed privately to the original thread owner. Instead, you 
decide to start with finger pointing, discouraging other member to post 
information that is considered OT, but acceptable. How exactly that CV 
concerns you? Are you a prospective employer? With that kind of cool haxx0r 
kiddie attitude of yours, I have trouble believing it. Consider using your 
mail client filtering features if you just can't fight the flame itch at your 
fingertips. Worked miracles for me, there is no reason why it would not work 
for you.

ATTN List subscribers: Please do not continue further on this thread with 
comments, and mail me privately instead. Thank you.

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RE: [OT] Lilach Bien's CV

2005-02-28 Thread El-al, Netta
well, after seeing your comment i just had to google u and see if your id is 
archived anywhere on the www. well, i didn't check all the entries, so i don't 
know if it is, but from the few entries i did check, it appears that you're 
quite the troll. please don't troll here.
thanks.

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Israel.pm March 2005 Meeting Announcement

2005-02-28 Thread Offer Kaye
On Thursday, March 3rd, the Israeli Perl Mongers will hold their
regular monthly meeting. The program:

* 18:00-18:45 -- Gabor Szabo: "Introduction to Web development using Perl"
* 18:45-19:15 -- Assembly and light refreshments
* 19:15-21:45 -- Gabor Szabo will lecture about "Code Review - A
review of 2 Web based projects" Read more
* As usual after the meeting we will go out to a nearby
pub/coffee-shop/etc. for a post-meeting social gathering.

The event will take place in the Dapey Zahav building, 23 Abba Hillel
St., Ramat Gan.
Attendance is free, but a 10 NIS donation to help buy the bourekas
will be welcome.

*** Special Note
The 18:00-18:45 lecture is a "beginner's level" lecture, a new feature
of our meetings which was motivated by the success of the "Beginner's
Track" of YAPC::Israel::2005 . Perl beginners are incouraged to come,
learn and participate. Regular mongers of course are also welcome, but
please note the new start time for the regular technical lecture -
19:15 (instead of 19:00 as in the past).

Regards,
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Re: Looking for Progress DBA

2005-02-28 Thread Ez-Aton




It seems a clarification is required. 
Proggress Database is *not* postresql. It is a product, closed
source, for *nix and windows, which can be found in
http://www.progress.com .
The line of the products (nowdays) are called OpenEdge.
If anyone here has any experiance with this DB engine, and knows how
to maintain/disaster recover/setup/etc. it, please contact me. We do
not look for non-progress oriented DBAs, nor HP-UX Sysadmins, but a
Progress DBA, better with experiance on HP-UX (which is quite uncommon
in IL).
Thanks!
Ez.

Ez-Aton wrote:


  
  
  Hi all.
  In the company I'm working at, we're looking for a short notice
freelancer / outsourcer Progress DBA, prefferably, experianced with
HP-UX.
  If you are, or you know anyone who is an experianced Progress DBA,
with experiance (proven) working on HP-UX, troubleshooting Progress,
restoring DBs, building any complicated scenarios, please contact me
ASAP.
  Thanks!
  Etzion
  





re: [OT] Lilach Bien's CV

2005-02-28 Thread Elad Efrat
do you have a picture?
and congrats for having your id archived for eternity on the www
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Good Linux book for MS sysadmin

2005-02-28 Thread Michael Sternberg
What book on modern Linux administration you will recommend to a
seasoned Windows system administrator ?
Thanks
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Re: Inline functions make use of debugger impossible

2005-02-28 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
However, Shachar, what are those inlines exactly? You mentioned
std::string and auto_ptrs. Are you dealing with templates?
yes, at least some of them are, I guess.
Things can
get tricky that way. Can you post a trivial code example that exhibits
the problem?
No, as I have a sortof solution, I don't have time to trim it down. Feel 
free to grab the real thing. http://sf.net/projects/rsyncrypto, function 
"dir_encrypt".

At least we'll be able to try that on different versions
of g++.
I assume that you cannot step through with either ddd or gdb, right?
 

Haven't tried gdb, but I can't imagine it being any different. ddd is 
not a debugger, after all.

(IIRC ddd has gdb inside and presumably does not do anything on its
own accord).
 

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Re: Inline functions make use of debugger impossible

2005-02-28 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Baruch Even <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> My memory claims there is an option to set inline according to
> complexity, but then my memory tends to invent things it wants (a hot
> sun for example).

That exists, as well as -finline-limit=N. However, Shachar's effect
seems weird, assuming it is normal inlined class members he is talking
about. I just tried a trivial program with gcc-3.2.3-42
gdb-6.1post-1.20040607.17 on RHEL WS 3 (sorry, cannot reproduce the
environment here), and I was able to step through class members
without -O, but not with -O. I expected this. I also restore the
ability to step through class members if I use -O -fno-default-inline.

However, Shachar, what are those inlines exactly? You mentioned
std::string and auto_ptrs. Are you dealing with templates? Things can
get tricky that way. Can you post a trivial code example that exhibits
the problem? At least we'll be able to try that on different versions
of g++.

I assume that you cannot step through with either ddd or gdb, right?
(IIRC ddd has gdb inside and presumably does not do anything on its
own accord).

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Re: Inline functions make use of debugger impossible

2005-02-28 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Baruch Even wrote:
Shachar Shemesh wrote:
Hi all,
I'm trying to debug a C++ program I'm writing using ddd. Up until a 
few days ago everything was fine. I compiled with -g -Wall (and no 
-O), and everything worked. Today it stopped working.

It seems the compiler insists on expanding all inline functions into 
the function context. As a result, any function that uses auto_ptrs 
and std:string becomes impossible to debug. You spend most of your 
time jumping around inline functions, and don't get to see the code 
you wrote.
[snip]
I have tried "-fno-inline" and "-fno-default-inline", and they do not 
affect this behavior. This is not so surprising, as inlining is 
supposed to be off when there is no -O, and so one shouldn't be 
surprised when they don't make a difference.

Maybe you can try -O0 or -Os (optimize for size). Advice on the net 
seems to imply that only -Os will completely disable inlines. YMMV.
Praise Thor, the god of programmers, -O0 worked. Grrr. -Os didn't, btw.
So, without asking for any specific optimization level, previous gcc 
versions did no optimizations at all. What does the current version do?

As a sidenote - I'll mention that I already solved the specific bug 
using good ol' debug printfs.

If it's functions that are defined inline you can try to
#define inline
In your case it sounds like methods defined in the header of a class, 
no idea about those.
One would expect that telling the compiler not to inline would cause it 
not to inline. I guess one would be optimistic.

My memory claims there is an option to set inline according to 
complexity, but then my memory tends to invent things it wants (a hot 
sun for example).
-finline-limit ?
Baruch
 Shachar
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Re: Inline functions make use of debugger impossible

2005-02-28 Thread Baruch Even
Shachar Shemesh wrote:
Hi all,
I'm trying to debug a C++ program I'm writing using ddd. Up until a few 
days ago everything was fine. I compiled with -g -Wall (and no -O), and 
everything worked. Today it stopped working.

It seems the compiler insists on expanding all inline functions into the 
function context. As a result, any function that uses auto_ptrs and 
std:string becomes impossible to debug. You spend most of your time 
jumping around inline functions, and don't get to see the code you wrote.
[snip]
I have tried "-fno-inline" and "-fno-default-inline", and they do not 
affect this behavior. This is not so surprising, as inlining is supposed 
to be off when there is no -O, and so one shouldn't be surprised when 
they don't make a difference.
Maybe you can try -O0 or -Os (optimize for size). Advice on the net 
seems to imply that only -Os will completely disable inlines. YMMV.

If it's functions that are defined inline you can try to
#define inline
In your case it sounds like methods defined in the header of a class, no 
idea about those.

My memory claims there is an option to set inline according to 
complexity, but then my memory tends to invent things it wants (a hot 
sun for example).

Baruch
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RE: CPU idle / iowait

2005-02-28 Thread Tzahi Fadida
And run analyze more frequently so the table statistics will update and
the planner will choose better plans.
If you can upgrade to 8 its better.
run Explain Analyze on your problematic queries to see what the planner
does. maybe think about adding indices where there aren't, etc...
also note that the I/O is what mainly affects the run time of the
queries.
It could be possible that your DMA is not activated.
Think about buying a static memory for your WAL files
which is a big bottleneck if you have lots of transactions.
Check the settings of postgres to see if there is enough memory
allocated for it because when it does merge sorts, it spills to disk.
Consider using XFS as the filesystem with 8KB block size because
the default page size of postgres is 8KB anyway.
Think about distributing the load to several computers by using sloany
or other replicators.
That's it for now.


Regards,
tzahi.

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 12:02 PM
> To: Michael Ben-Nes
> Cc: linux-il@linux.org.il
> Subject: Re: CPU idle / iowait
> 
> 
> Quoting Michael Ben-Nes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > Hi All
> >
> > Im running a postgres server on IBM machine with 2 Xeon 3G 
> Cpu, 3 GB 
> > Mem and Raid.
> >
> > I decide to upgrade my server from dual AMD MP 2400, 2 GB 
> mem and raid 
> > to this machine because lately my queries became slower. To my 
> > surprise the current server is even slower.
> >
> If your queries became to run slower execute the following 
> command in postgresql shell.
> 
> vacuum full all;
> 
> The is an external script that could be run fron crontab.
> It will run vacuum on your database. Look in postgresql 
> contrib package.
> 
> > After banging my head against the wall for a day or two i 
> noticed that 
> > when the CPU is under heavy load the actual work is small ( 
> divided by 
> > 50% between idle and wait )
> >
> > The OS is Centos Linux 2.4.21 SMP
> >
> > Here is a small cut from dstat. it shows the idle and 
> iowait ( sum of 
> > 99
> > ) and all the other are 1% :(
> >
> > total-cpu-usage
> > usr sys idl wai hiq siq|
> >   1   1  93   5   0   0|
> >   1   0  49  50   0   0|
> >   1   0  50  49   0   0|
> >   0   0  50  50   0   0|
> >   1   0  50  49   0   0|
> >
> > Any idea what could be the problem ?
> >
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Re: CPU idle / iowait

2005-02-28 Thread Shachar Shemesh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoting Michael Ben-Nes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
 

Hi All
Im running a postgres server on IBM machine with 2 Xeon 3G Cpu, 3 GB Mem
and Raid.
I decide to upgrade my server from dual AMD MP 2400, 2 GB mem and raid
to this machine because lately my queries became slower.
To my surprise the current server is even slower.
   

If your queries became to run slower execute the following
command in postgresql shell.
vacuum full all;
The is an external script that could be run fron crontab.
It will run vacuum on your database. Look in postgresql contrib package.
 

If the above advise is new to you, you should make sure you also run 
"analyze". This updates statistics about the tables, which helps 
postgres guess when to use an index, and when to do sequential scans 
(the automatic query optimizer).

However, Postgres 8 has an autovacum feature, which means that it 
automatically runs the maintenance every so often. It may be that these 
tips will not help you at all.

 Shachar
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Re: CPU idle / iowait

2005-02-28 Thread shtirlitz
Quoting Michael Ben-Nes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hi All
>
> Im running a postgres server on IBM machine with 2 Xeon 3G Cpu, 3 GB Mem
> and Raid.
>
> I decide to upgrade my server from dual AMD MP 2400, 2 GB mem and raid
> to this machine because lately my queries became slower.
> To my surprise the current server is even slower.
>
If your queries became to run slower execute the following
command in postgresql shell.

vacuum full all;

The is an external script that could be run fron crontab.
It will run vacuum on your database. Look in postgresql contrib package.

> After banging my head against the wall for a day or two i noticed that
> when the CPU is under heavy load the actual work is small ( divided by
> 50% between idle and wait )
>
> The OS is Centos Linux 2.4.21 SMP
>
> Here is a small cut from dstat. it shows the idle and iowait ( sum of 99
> ) and all the other are 1% :(
>
> total-cpu-usage
> usr sys idl wai hiq siq|
>   1   1  93   5   0   0|
>   1   0  49  50   0   0|
>   1   0  50  49   0   0|
>   0   0  50  50   0   0|
>   1   0  50  49   0   0|
>
> Any idea what could be the problem ?
>

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Call free bios

2005-02-28 Thread Ely Levy
http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/free-bios.html

I wonder if it has any chance, after all they could never get ati
and nvidia to give specs..

Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel



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looking for a sysadmin with a particular skill set

2005-02-28 Thread Danny Lieberman
no connection to the previous ongoing thread :
I'm looking for a Linux sysadmin with 3+ years track record  with
+ experience in HPTC - high performance computing
+ Dev tools support, C++, Totalview, Vampir, Vtune, Insure++
+ Full time employment, not outsourcing
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