Re: Fwd: "spontaneous" umount

2007-05-23 Thread Vassilii Khachaturov
Did you try disabling supermount to see if the problem goes away?

Vassilii

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Re: Fwd: "spontaneous" umount

2007-05-23 Thread Shlomo Solomon
OK - no war, but I don't intend to change a excelent distro just because of 
one missing tool. And BTW, this is a home machine and not a server.

On Wednesday 23 May 2007 15:19, Noam Meltzer wrote:
> Well... No intentions to start a holy-distro-war, but I think that this can
> be a good reason to move your server to a better distro. like CentOS5 if
> you're you're looking for an enterprise OS, of (k)ubuntu 7.04 if you're
> looking for something more dynamic. (ubuntu 6.06 LTS does not provide
> systemtap to the best of my knowledge)
> servers should provide a stable platform as well as a wide set of tools to
> debug and explore problems, and as I see it mandriva fails to do so at the
> moment.
>
> btw, centos has support for systemtap since 4.2.
>
> - Noam
>
> On 5/22/07, Shlomo Solomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > There is no binary. I also looked in all the usual places for an
> > "unofficial"
> > RPM that might exist, but no luck.
> >
> > On Tuesday 22 May 2007 10:48, Noam Meltzer wrote:
> > > what error do you get when you run it?
> > > if you can find the "stap" binary, it is most likely that all you are
> > > missing afterwards is the kernel debug package.
> > >
> > > On 5/22/07, Shlomo Solomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Sorry not to have answered earlier, but I've had a busy week at work
> >
> > and
> >
> > > > barely had time to look at my computer at home.
> > > >
> > > > In any case, as far as I can see, Mandriva does not support
> > > > SystemTap,
> >
> > so
> >
> > > > I
> > > > guess I'm back where I started.
> > > >
> > > > On Tuesday 22 May 2007 00:35, Noam Meltzer wrote:
> > > > > any luck?
> > > > >
> > > > > -- Forwarded message --
> > > > > From: Noam Meltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Date: May 18, 2007 9:59 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: "spontaneous" umount
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Cc: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > Basically 'mounts' just don't disappear. So, the only possible
> > > >
> > > > explanation
> > > >
> > > > > is that some task on your machine umounts your partitions.
> > > > > Now, for the question "what?", I find it just the right time to
> > > >
> > > > experiment
> > > >
> > > > > with systemtap. (I truly hope that Mandriva 2007 already supports
> >
> > it)
> >
> > > > > So, please find the attached systemtap script. It will probe for
> > > > > the
> > > >
> > > > umount
> > > >
> > > > > system call and will print you the pid and name of the process
> > > > > umounting your partitions as well as the parent's.
> > > > > See where it gets you.
> > > > >
> > > > > - Noam
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Shlomo Solomon
> > > > http://the-solomons.net
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Re: Fwd: "spontaneous" umount

2007-05-23 Thread Noam Meltzer

Well... No intentions to start a holy-distro-war, but I think that this can
be a good reason to move your server to a better distro. like CentOS5 if
you're you're looking for an enterprise OS, of (k)ubuntu 7.04 if you're
looking for something more dynamic. (ubuntu 6.06 LTS does not provide
systemtap to the best of my knowledge)
servers should provide a stable platform as well as a wide set of tools to
debug and explore problems, and as I see it mandriva fails to do so at the
moment.

btw, centos has support for systemtap since 4.2.

- Noam

On 5/22/07, Shlomo Solomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


There is no binary. I also looked in all the usual places for an
"unofficial"
RPM that might exist, but no luck.

On Tuesday 22 May 2007 10:48, Noam Meltzer wrote:
> what error do you get when you run it?
> if you can find the "stap" binary, it is most likely that all you are
> missing afterwards is the kernel debug package.
>
> On 5/22/07, Shlomo Solomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Sorry not to have answered earlier, but I've had a busy week at work
and
> > barely had time to look at my computer at home.
> >
> > In any case, as far as I can see, Mandriva does not support SystemTap,
so
> > I
> > guess I'm back where I started.
> >
> > On Tuesday 22 May 2007 00:35, Noam Meltzer wrote:
> > > any luck?
> > >
> > > -- Forwarded message --
> > > From: Noam Meltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: May 18, 2007 9:59 PM
> > > Subject: Re: "spontaneous" umount
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Cc: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > Basically 'mounts' just don't disappear. So, the only possible
> >
> > explanation
> >
> > > is that some task on your machine umounts your partitions.
> > > Now, for the question "what?", I find it just the right time to
> >
> > experiment
> >
> > > with systemtap. (I truly hope that Mandriva 2007 already supports
it)
> > >
> > > So, please find the attached systemtap script. It will probe for the
> >
> > umount
> >
> > > system call and will print you the pid and name of the process
> > > umounting your partitions as well as the parent's.
> > > See where it gets you.
> > >
> > > - Noam
> >
> > --
> > Shlomo Solomon
> > http://the-solomons.net
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> >
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Re: Fwd: "spontaneous" umount

2007-05-22 Thread Shlomo Solomon
There is no binary. I also looked in all the usual places for an "unofficial" 
RPM that might exist, but no luck.

On Tuesday 22 May 2007 10:48, Noam Meltzer wrote:
> what error do you get when you run it?
> if you can find the "stap" binary, it is most likely that all you are
> missing afterwards is the kernel debug package.
>
> On 5/22/07, Shlomo Solomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Sorry not to have answered earlier, but I've had a busy week at work and
> > barely had time to look at my computer at home.
> >
> > In any case, as far as I can see, Mandriva does not support SystemTap, so
> > I
> > guess I'm back where I started.
> >
> > On Tuesday 22 May 2007 00:35, Noam Meltzer wrote:
> > > any luck?
> > >
> > > -- Forwarded message --
> > > From: Noam Meltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: May 18, 2007 9:59 PM
> > > Subject: Re: "spontaneous" umount
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Cc: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > Basically 'mounts' just don't disappear. So, the only possible
> >
> > explanation
> >
> > > is that some task on your machine umounts your partitions.
> > > Now, for the question "what?", I find it just the right time to
> >
> > experiment
> >
> > > with systemtap. (I truly hope that Mandriva 2007 already supports it)
> > >
> > > So, please find the attached systemtap script. It will probe for the
> >
> > umount
> >
> > > system call and will print you the pid and name of the process
> > > umounting your partitions as well as the parent's.
> > > See where it gets you.
> > >
> > > - Noam
> >
> > --
> > Shlomo Solomon
> > http://the-solomons.net
> > Sent by KMail (KDE 3.5.4) on LINUX Mandriva 2007
> >
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Re: Fwd: "spontaneous" umount

2007-05-22 Thread Noam Meltzer

what error do you get when you run it?
if you can find the "stap" binary, it is most likely that all you are
missing afterwards is the kernel debug package.


On 5/22/07, Shlomo Solomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Sorry not to have answered earlier, but I've had a busy week at work and
barely had time to look at my computer at home.

In any case, as far as I can see, Mandriva does not support SystemTap, so
I
guess I'm back where I started.

On Tuesday 22 May 2007 00:35, Noam Meltzer wrote:
> any luck?
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Noam Meltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: May 18, 2007 9:59 PM
> Subject: Re: "spontaneous" umount
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
>
> Hi,
> Basically 'mounts' just don't disappear. So, the only possible
explanation
> is that some task on your machine umounts your partitions.
> Now, for the question "what?", I find it just the right time to
experiment
> with systemtap. (I truly hope that Mandriva 2007 already supports it)
>
> So, please find the attached systemtap script. It will probe for the
umount
> system call and will print you the pid and name of the process umounting
> your partitions as well as the parent's.
> See where it gets you.
>
> - Noam

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Re: Fwd: "spontaneous" umount

2007-05-21 Thread Shlomo Solomon
Sorry not to have answered earlier, but I've had a busy week at work and 
barely had time to look at my computer at home.

In any case, as far as I can see, Mandriva does not support SystemTap, so I 
guess I'm back where I started.

On Tuesday 22 May 2007 00:35, Noam Meltzer wrote:
> any luck?
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Noam Meltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: May 18, 2007 9:59 PM
> Subject: Re: "spontaneous" umount
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
>
> Hi,
> Basically 'mounts' just don't disappear. So, the only possible explanation
> is that some task on your machine umounts your partitions.
> Now, for the question "what?", I find it just the right time to experiment
> with systemtap. (I truly hope that Mandriva 2007 already supports it)
>
> So, please find the attached systemtap script. It will probe for the umount
> system call and will print you the pid and name of the process umounting
> your partitions as well as the parent's.
> See where it gets you.
>
> - Noam

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