Re: Drivers for Eyetv hybrid
Sound like a lot of work, and it would be easier just to buy a functional tuner :) Guess I'm busy enough. However, I did manage to find some more info, for someone to use someday :) /Morten Model: EU 2008 USB Contoller: Empia EM2884 Stereo A/V Decoder: Micronas AVF 49x08 Hybrid Channel Decoder: Micronas DRX-K DRX3926K:A1 0.9.0 On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Devin Heitmueller dheitmuel...@kernellabs.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Morten Friesgaard friesga...@gmail.com wrote: Actually I don't understand why this em28xx driver is the only one being patched, guess that reduces backward compability!? :-P There are many drivers actively being developed. What I'm trying to say is that the new version of the EyeTV Hybrid is not an em28xx based hardware design. Well, I haven't given up, but no one has given me any pointers but /dev/null If this em28xx module would be startable with the usb id 0fd9:0018, I could tryout the old driver. If you say the hardware design is completely different, I guess it should still be possible to mount the usb device and fetch anything from the device (e.g. tvtime -d /dev/usbdev). The driver would be a matter of controlling the device to tune to the correct channel etc. No, that is not how USB drivers work. You have to know how to program the various chips on the device (the bridge, demodulator, decoder, tuner), as well as knowing how to decode the packets coming back from the device. If you want to get an understanding as to how complex the drivers are then feel free to look at some of them in the v4l-dvb source code. You can get a better understanding as to how these devices are designed here: KernelLabs Blog: How Tuners Work... http://www.kernellabs.com/blog/?p=1045 When new hardware is introduced, how do you guys break down the task and implement a driver? (how much can be borrow from the mac os x drivers?) It largely depends on the device. Usually you start by cracking it open and seeing what chips it contains, and from there you can see which components currently have a driver and which do not. Whether the various components are already supported usually drives whether a whole new driver is required or just a board profile in an existing driver. And whether datasheets are available publicly dictates how easy/hard it is to write a driver (the datasheets are usually *not* available for modern devices, or only available under NDA). Devin -- Devin J. Heitmueller - Kernel Labs http://www.kernellabs.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Drivers for Eyetv hybrid
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Morten Friesgaard friesga...@gmail.com wrote: Sound like a lot of work, and it would be easier just to buy a functional tuner :) Guess I'm busy enough. However, I did manage to find some more info, for someone to use someday :) /Morten Model: EU 2008 USB Contoller: Empia EM2884 Stereo A/V Decoder: Micronas AVF 49x08 Hybrid Channel Decoder: Micronas DRX-K DRX3926K:A1 0.9.0 Correct, this is an em2884/drx-k/xc5000 design. The em2884 work is pretty straightforward, and the xc5000 driver should work as-is. The big issue is the drx-k driver, for which there is no currently driver at all. Devin -- Devin J. Heitmueller - Kernel Labs http://www.kernellabs.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Drivers for Eyetv hybrid
Actually I don't understand why this em28xx driver is the only one being patched, guess that reduces backward compability!? :-P Well, I haven't given up, but no one has given me any pointers but /dev/null If this em28xx module would be startable with the usb id 0fd9:0018, I could tryout the old driver. If you say the hardware design is completely different, I guess it should still be possible to mount the usb device and fetch anything from the device (e.g. tvtime -d /dev/usbdev). The driver would be a matter of controlling the device to tune to the correct channel etc. When new hardware is introduced, how do you guys break down the task and implement a driver? (how much can be borrow from the mac os x drivers?) /Morten On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Simon Kenyon si...@koala.ie wrote: On 21/01/2010 12:07, Markus Rechberger wrote: On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Morten Friesgaard friesga...@gmail.com wrote: To bad. I bought this tuner because of the cross platform compability :-/ Well, it looks awfully alot like the TerraTec H5, would there be a driver this one? http://www.terratec.net/en/products/TerraTec_H5_83188.html just fyi. this Terratec device is not supported. We've been working on a device with equivalent features (DVB-T/C/AnalogTV/VBI/Composite/S-Video/FM-Radio/RDS/Remote Control) http://support.sundtek.com/index.php/topic,4.0.html We are also integrating additional flexible USB CI support for it. Best Regards, Markus Rechberger you just don't give up - do you? -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Drivers for Eyetv hybrid
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Morten Friesgaard friesga...@gmail.com wrote: Actually I don't understand why this em28xx driver is the only one being patched, guess that reduces backward compability!? :-P There are many drivers actively being developed. What I'm trying to say is that the new version of the EyeTV Hybrid is not an em28xx based hardware design. Well, I haven't given up, but no one has given me any pointers but /dev/null If this em28xx module would be startable with the usb id 0fd9:0018, I could tryout the old driver. If you say the hardware design is completely different, I guess it should still be possible to mount the usb device and fetch anything from the device (e.g. tvtime -d /dev/usbdev). The driver would be a matter of controlling the device to tune to the correct channel etc. No, that is not how USB drivers work. You have to know how to program the various chips on the device (the bridge, demodulator, decoder, tuner), as well as knowing how to decode the packets coming back from the device. If you want to get an understanding as to how complex the drivers are then feel free to look at some of them in the v4l-dvb source code. You can get a better understanding as to how these devices are designed here: KernelLabs Blog: How Tuners Work... http://www.kernellabs.com/blog/?p=1045 When new hardware is introduced, how do you guys break down the task and implement a driver? (how much can be borrow from the mac os x drivers?) It largely depends on the device. Usually you start by cracking it open and seeing what chips it contains, and from there you can see which components currently have a driver and which do not. Whether the various components are already supported usually drives whether a whole new driver is required or just a board profile in an existing driver. And whether datasheets are available publicly dictates how easy/hard it is to write a driver (the datasheets are usually *not* available for modern devices, or only available under NDA). Devin -- Devin J. Heitmueller - Kernel Labs http://www.kernellabs.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Drivers for Eyetv hybrid
To bad. I bought this tuner because of the cross platform compability :-/ Well, it looks awfully alot like the TerraTec H5, would there be a driver this one? http://www.terratec.net/en/products/TerraTec_H5_83188.html How hard is it to create a driver myself? I'm an engineer, have some knowlege with building the linux kernel, patching firmware etc. /Morten On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Devin Heitmueller dheitmuel...@kernellabs.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Morten Friesgaard friesga...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. I installed mythbuntu 9.10 this week on some old hardware, I had a Hauppauge 500MCE PVR in and made it work fairly easy. I'm used to gentoo However, I want to record HD signal, so I plugged in a Eyetv hybrid and followed this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1015387 I extracted the driver, put it in into /lib/firmware, modprobed em28xx, rebooted. When I plug in the device, it is not recognised. I tried both usb ports. The ID is 0fd9:0018, which is somewhat different from similar hardware e.g. Hauppauge wintv-hvr-950 (ID 2040:6513 http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.ph..._WinTV-HVR-950 ) It's a totally different hardware design, nothing like the older version of the EyeTV Hybrid (which was just a clone of the HVR-950). It is unsupported currently (and nobody is working on it to my knowledge). Devin -- Devin J. Heitmueller - Kernel Labs http://www.kernellabs.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Drivers for Eyetv hybrid
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Morten Friesgaard friesga...@gmail.com wrote: To bad. I bought this tuner because of the cross platform compability :-/ Well, it looks awfully alot like the TerraTec H5, would there be a driver this one? http://www.terratec.net/en/products/TerraTec_H5_83188.html just fyi. this Terratec device is not supported. We've been working on a device with equivalent features (DVB-T/C/AnalogTV/VBI/Composite/S-Video/FM-Radio/RDS/Remote Control) http://support.sundtek.com/index.php/topic,4.0.html We are also integrating additional flexible USB CI support for it. Best Regards, Markus Rechberger -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Drivers for Eyetv hybrid
On 21/01/2010 12:07, Markus Rechberger wrote: On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Morten Friesgaard friesga...@gmail.com wrote: To bad. I bought this tuner because of the cross platform compability :-/ Well, it looks awfully alot like the TerraTec H5, would there be a driver this one? http://www.terratec.net/en/products/TerraTec_H5_83188.html just fyi. this Terratec device is not supported. We've been working on a device with equivalent features (DVB-T/C/AnalogTV/VBI/Composite/S-Video/FM-Radio/RDS/Remote Control) http://support.sundtek.com/index.php/topic,4.0.html We are also integrating additional flexible USB CI support for it. Best Regards, Markus Rechberger you just don't give up - do you? -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Drivers for Eyetv hybrid
Hello. I installed mythbuntu 9.10 this week on some old hardware, I had a Hauppauge 500MCE PVR in and made it work fairly easy. I'm used to gentoo However, I want to record HD signal, so I plugged in a Eyetv hybrid and followed this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1015387 I extracted the driver, put it in into /lib/firmware, modprobed em28xx, rebooted. When I plug in the device, it is not recognised. I tried both usb ports. The ID is 0fd9:0018, which is somewhat different from similar hardware e.g. Hauppauge wintv-hvr-950 (ID 2040:6513 http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.ph..._WinTV-HVR-950 ) I think the hardware has been updated, hope someone knows how to crack this one Thanks, Morten I have added some additional information below! # uname -a Linux m 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:04:26 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux # lsmod | egrep -R video|em|video|v4l em28xx 80968 0 ir_common 48512 1 em28xx videobuf_vmalloc 6496 1 em28xx videobuf_core 17952 2 em28xx,videobuf_vmalloc v4l2_common 17500 6 em28xx,wm8775,tuner,cx25840,ivtv,cx2341x videodev 36736 6 em28xx,wm8775,tuner,cx25840,ivtv,v4l2_common v4l1_compat 14496 1 videodev tveeprom 11872 2 em28xx,ivtv # lsusb Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0fd9:0018 Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub # lsusb -v -d 0fd9:0018 Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0fd9:0018 Device Descriptor: bLength 18 bDescriptorType 1 bcdUSB 2.00 bDeviceClass 0 (Defined at Interface level) bDeviceSubClass 0 bDeviceProtocol 0 bMaxPacketSize0 64 idVendor 0x0fd9 idProduct 0x0018 bcdDevice 1.00 iManufacturer 3 iProduct 1 iSerial 2 bNumConfigurations 1 Configuration Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 2 wTotalLength 305 bNumInterfaces 1 bConfigurationValue 1 iConfiguration 0 bmAttributes 0x80 (Bus Powered) MaxPower 500mA Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber 0 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 4 bInterfaceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class bInterfaceSubClass 0 bInterfaceProtocol 255 iInterface 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN bmAttributes 3 Transfer Type Interrupt Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0001 1x 1 bytes bInterval 100 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x82 EP 2 IN bmAttributes 1 Transfer Type Isochronous Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x 1x 0 bytes bInterval 1 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x83 EP 3 IN bmAttributes 1 Transfer Type Isochronous Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x 1x 0 bytes bInterval 1 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x84 EP 4 IN bmAttributes 1 Transfer Type Isochronous Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x 1x 0 bytes bInterval 1 Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber 0 bAlternateSetting 1 bNumEndpoints 4 bInterfaceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class bInterfaceSubClass 0 bInterfaceProtocol 255 iInterface 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN bmAttributes 3 Transfer Type Interrupt Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0001 1x 1 bytes bInterval 100 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x82 EP 2 IN bmAttributes 1 Transfer Type Isochronous Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes bInterval 1 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x83 EP 3 IN bmAttributes 1 Transfer Type Isochronous Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x 1x 0 bytes bInterval 1 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x84 EP 4 IN bmAttributes 1 Transfer Type Isochronous Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x 1x 0 bytes bInterval 1 Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber 0 bAlternateSetting 2 bNumEndpoints 4 bInterfaceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class bInterfaceSubClass 0 bInterfaceProtocol 255 iInterface 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN bmAttributes 3 Transfer Type Interrupt Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0001 1x 1 bytes bInterval 100 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x82 EP 2 IN bmAttributes 1 Transfer Type Isochronous Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0280 1x 640 bytes bInterval 1 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x83 EP 3 IN bmAttributes 1 Transfer Type Isochronous Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x 1x 0 bytes bInterval 1 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x84 EP 4 IN bmAttributes 1 Transfer Type Isochronous Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x 1x 0 bytes bInterval 1 Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber 0 bAlternateSetting 3 bNumEndpoints 4 bInterfaceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class
Re: Drivers for Eyetv hybrid
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Morten Friesgaard friesga...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. I installed mythbuntu 9.10 this week on some old hardware, I had a Hauppauge 500MCE PVR in and made it work fairly easy. I'm used to gentoo However, I want to record HD signal, so I plugged in a Eyetv hybrid and followed this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1015387 I extracted the driver, put it in into /lib/firmware, modprobed em28xx, rebooted. When I plug in the device, it is not recognised. I tried both usb ports. The ID is 0fd9:0018, which is somewhat different from similar hardware e.g. Hauppauge wintv-hvr-950 (ID 2040:6513 http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.ph..._WinTV-HVR-950 ) It's a totally different hardware design, nothing like the older version of the EyeTV Hybrid (which was just a clone of the HVR-950). It is unsupported currently (and nobody is working on it to my knowledge). Devin -- Devin J. Heitmueller - Kernel Labs http://www.kernellabs.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
