Re: OT - anyone else having problems connecting to the xtra smtp server?
On Friday 21 October 2005 15:49, sirlancelot wrote: > Maybe then it would be a good topic for a shortish discussion at one of > the meetings. I have to admit to being one of those who have so far > ignored this technology, but i'd be interested to listen to a discussion > of the why's and wherefore's. > > Lance B > > Steve Holdoway wrote: > >On Fri, October 21, 2005 3:00 pm, Christopher Sawtell wrote: > >>But they can't do that if their mail server is out of order. > >>I really wish the ISPs would disseminate this kind of info using RSS. > > > >A recent survey showed that well under 5% of regular computer users had > >even heard of RSS, let alone used it. > > > >What's wrong with the web page concept as a backup for the M$^H^H > >technologically challenged? Nothing much except: Web => Dozens of clicks to find the gem of info, and you ask them. RSS => No clicks, and they tell you automatically. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/help/rss/default.stm http://www.telegraph.co.uk/connected/main.jhtml?xml=%2Fconnected%2F2003%2F11%2F05%2Fecrboot05.xml Doubtless there are _dozens_ of others. -- CS
Re: OT - anyone else having problems connecting to the xtra smtp server?
Maybe then it would be a good topic for a shortish discussion at one of the meetings. I have to admit to being one of those who have so far ignored this technology, but i'd be interested to listen to a discussion of the why's and wherefore's. Lance B Steve Holdoway wrote: On Fri, October 21, 2005 3:00 pm, Christopher Sawtell wrote: But they can't do that if their mail server is out of order. I really wish the ISPs would disseminate this kind of info using RSS. A recent survey showed that well under 5% of regular computer users had even heard of RSS, let alone used it. What's wrong with the web page concept as a backup for the M$^H^H technologically challenged? Steve
Re: OT - anyone else having problems connecting to the xtra smtp server?
On Fri, October 21, 2005 3:00 pm, Christopher Sawtell wrote: > > But they can't do that if their mail server is out of order. > I really wish the ISPs would disseminate this kind of info using RSS. > A recent survey showed that well under 5% of regular computer users had even heard of RSS, let alone used it. What's wrong with the web page concept as a backup for the M$^H^H technologically challenged? Steve -- Work like you don't need the money, Love like your heart has never been broken and Dance like no one can see you.
Re: OT - anyone else having problems connecting to the xtra smtp server?
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:00:33 +1300 Christopher Sawtell wrote: > > "Perhaps they could send an email to everyone." > > But they can't do that if their mail server is out of order. Geez some people just don't do irony! > I really wish the ISPs would disseminate this kind of info using RSS. > I don't really want to subscribe to every isp on the planet's "today's problem" rss feed thanks. It's hard enough keeping up with slashdot, tvtorrents, planet gentoo, uknova, clug's rss feed, lx'er and numerous podcasts. BTW xtra do have this helpful service announcement: Network Status Current Status There is currently 1 known problem with the Xtra Network Unscheduled Event System(s) Affected: Sending Email Products Affected: All Connections System(s) Response: Responding Slowly Current Status: Confirmed Resolution Expected: Unknown -- Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: OT - anyone else having problems connecting to the xtra smtp server?
On Friday 21 October 2005 14:19, Andrew Errington wrote: > On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:42, you wrote: > > On Friday 21 October 2005 13:39, Nick Rout wrote: > > > Any mail I have sent to an xtra address in the last hour or three is > > > stuck in the mail queue. Telnetting on port 25 hangs. I am on a > > > paradise IP (adsl). > > > > Indeed, from the discussion on NZNOG it appears Xtra's SMTP has been > > playing up since last night. > If only ISP's had a way to get this sort of information out to their > customers. Perhaps they could send an email to everyone. It seems like > the obvious way. > "Perhaps they could send an email to everyone." But they can't do that if their mail server is out of order. I really wish the ISPs would disseminate this kind of info using RSS. I wonder if there are any "Faithful ISP employee" types subscribing to this list who could bring this to the attention of their respective managements, because it would be _very_ useful. -- CS
Re: OT - anyone else having problems connecting to the xtra smtp server?
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:42, you wrote: > On Friday 21 October 2005 13:39, Nick Rout wrote: > > Any mail I have sent to an xtra address in the last hour or three is > > stuck in the mail queue. Telnetting on port 25 hangs. I am on a > > paradise IP (adsl). > > Indeed, from the discussion on NZNOG it appears Xtra's SMTP has been > playing up since last night. If only ISP's had a way to get this sort of information out to their customers. Perhaps they could send an email to everyone. It seems like the obvious way. =:^P A
Re: OT - anyone else having problems connecting to the xtra smtp server?
On Friday 21 October 2005 13:39, Nick Rout wrote: > Any mail I have sent to an xtra address in the last hour or three is > stuck in the mail queue. Telnetting on port 25 hangs. I am on a paradise > IP (adsl). Indeed, from the discussion on NZNOG it appears Xtra's SMTP has been playing up since last night. HTH hads -- Towns from around the world: Wankie (Zimbabwe) Climax (Colorado, USA) Nobber (Donegal, Ireland) Lickey End (West Midlands, UK) Fukum (Yemen) Lord Berkeley's Knob (Sutherland, Scotland)
OT - anyone else having problems connecting to the xtra smtp server?
Any mail I have sent to an xtra address in the last hour or three is stuck in the mail queue. Telnetting on port 25 hangs. I am on a paradise IP (adsl). -- Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: qemu & file transfer.
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:21:30 +1300 Ross Drummond wrote: > On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:25, Nick Rout wrote: > > Barry: please do the following in the windows virtual machine running on > > qemu: > > > The default proftp instalation on Mandrake allows users on the server to log > in as themselves and opens by default in their home directory. > > Useful to know if the sever demands a login & password. > > Cheers Ross Drummond I had assumed barry knew what to do to log in to an ftp server. however, assumption is the mother of screwups. -- Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: qemu & file transfer.
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:25, Nick Rout wrote: > Barry: please do the following in the windows virtual machine running on > qemu: > The default proftp instalation on Mandrake allows users on the server to log in as themselves and opens by default in their home directory. Useful to know if the sever demands a login & password. Cheers Ross Drummond
Re: qemu & file transfer.
Barry: please do the following in the windows virtual machine running on qemu: Click Start|Run in the run command box that appears type winipcfg then enter This will tell you what the ip address of the windows machine is. There is a drop down box - make sure you choose the right adaptor. The address should be something in the range of 10.0.2.x The address of the linux machine should be 10.0.2.2 If you have your ftp server set up on the linux box try ftp'ing into it from the windows VM. Start a msdos command line thingy and simply type ftp 10.0.2.2 Feed back the results. On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:07:00 +1300 Nick Rout wrote: > Barry you seem majorly confused between ftp and smb networking. > > What is it that you are trying to do? > On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:26:06 +1300 > Barry wrote: > > > According to the documentation it should be possible to ftp files > > to/from qemu, but how do i set this up? > > -- Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Errors in quoting was RE: Telstraclear boo boo
A simple "whoops! Sorry!" would be fine thanks. -Original Message- From: Volker Kuhlmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 21 October 2005 8:43 a.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: Telstraclear boo boo On Thu 20 Oct 2005 10:43:19 NZDT +1300, Craig FALCONER wrote: > OI! I did NOT say that! Get your quoting right! Well your top-posting and bad quoting style was asking for it. Volker
Re: qemu & file transfer.
Barry you seem majorly confused between ftp and smb networking. What is it that you are trying to do? On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:26:06 +1300 Barry wrote: > According to the documentation it should be possible to ftp files > to/from qemu, but how do i set this up? > > I have a need to t/f files each way. > > ftp is working, I can bring up a prompt in a xterm, and ftp to localhost > in gftp. I use gftp to access my website. > > Samba is installed & running. I looked at the conf file using swat and > laltered the workgrop name to 'WORKGROUP' same as windows. I also added > a qemu section as follows > > [qemu] > comment = Temporary file space > path = /tmp > read only = No > guest ok = Yes > fstype = FAT > > qemu starts windows 98 without any problem, but I need the -dummy-net > option unless I am on line. File & print sharing is enabled. Tcp/IP is > installed for dialup (automatic IP) & for ethernet(10.0.2.20 255.0.0.0). > What gateway do I set? > > Your ideas on what to try next are wanted > > TIA > > Barry -- Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Extracting from mac .bin files
Hi Glynn, > You could always download the trial version, which gives you 15 days > without being asked to register - I'm sure you won't be dealing > with .bin's every day of the week!? I surely hope not!! But yes, downloading the commercial version is the only reliable course of action, but it's always worth trying macunpack from the macutils package first (included in every distro). There are a lot of references to various related command line programs which got eaten by the course of history, it can be a bit confusing. > Of course it probably requires a different version of glibc, and > probably doesn't have a nice packaging format ;) No it seems fine, simple tar file and ldd shows no problems. I won't run it now as I don't want to have to track its invasiveness at this point (the 15 day timebomb has to work somehow). > > I also know why I don't much like gnome apps. File-roller can't even > > remember the last directory it opened a file from. I love > > click-me-to-death GUIs. Not. > > Hence obnoxious - but you filed a bug in bugzilla.gnome.org, right? No, because I get the strong feeling that this is a deliberate design decision and that the gnomes like it that way. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.
Re: Telstraclear boo boo
On Thu 20 Oct 2005 10:43:19 NZDT +1300, Craig FALCONER wrote: > OI! I did NOT say that! Get your quoting right! Well your top-posting and bad quoting style was asking for it. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.
Re: qemu & file transfer.
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:58, Barry wrote: > Windows replies 'the network name can not be found'. ping says'Network > is unreachable' when offline, no reply when online > > > (if you use the ipaddress of the host system you do not need to add it to > > the lmhosts file) > > This is a stand-alone box without any network setup at present. Just use, as I said above, the IP address of your host system (the Linux box) -- Regards, Robert -- Robert Fisher (aka - Rob, Bob, Robbie, Robbo, Fish) FishNet Computer & Electrical Services www.fisher.net.nz Phone: 03 383 5807 Mobile: 027 477 3356
RE: Telstraclear boo boo
OI! I did NOT say that! Get your quoting right! *GLARE* -Original Message- From: Christopher Sawtell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 20 October 2005 10:35 a.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: Telstraclear boo boo On Thursday 20 October 2005 08:50, Craig FALCONER wrote: > but they could've sent emails out as a warning at least. That would have been nice, but remember that their purpose in life is to yield the maximum possible return on their shareholder's investments. Being nice costs money, so is not part of their business plan. If they really want to be a cool ISP they might consider redesigning their aesthetically beautiful, but functionally awful web site. It would be nice if it includee a RSS news feed for the vital service messages, and the traffic volume consumption. On second thoughts, perhaps no. The corporate marketing spivs would not be able resist the temptation to put adverts on it. -- CS
Re: qemu & file transfer.
On Thursday 20 October 2005 22:58, Barry wrote: > Thanks for the reply Rob. > > I went back to that page I found. It seems to presume that a network and > file server are already set up which is not so. I have installed proftpd > but am not sure about it being setup correctly. It is running > > Robert Fisher wrote: > > On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:26, Barry wrote: > >>Your ideas on what to try next are wanted > > > > Try WinXP. (Not joking!) > > Unfortunately I do not have it available > > > it was as simple as > > Start > Run > \\192.168.10.11 > > Windows replies 'the network name can not be found'. ping says'Network > is unreachable' when offline, no reply when online > > > (if you use the ipaddress of the host system you do not need to add it to > > the lmhosts file) > > This is a stand-alone box without any network setup at present. There you go then. Are you running a kernel + modules built by your Linux distributor or one you built yourself? In order to do networking things you _have_ to have networking enabled in the kernel, You need to either load the networking modules or compile them in. However if the only 'networking' you are trying to do is between the qemu environment and the Linux host machine fairly obviously you will not need to build any drivers for Network Interface Cards. -- CS
Re: qemu & file transfer.
Thanks for the reply Rob. I went back to that page I found. It seems to presume that a network and file server are already set up which is not so. I have installed proftpd but am not sure about it being setup correctly. It is running Robert Fisher wrote: On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:26, Barry wrote: Your ideas on what to try next are wanted Try WinXP. (Not joking!) Unfortunately I do not have it available it was as simple as Start > Run > \\192.168.10.11 Windows replies 'the network name can not be found'. ping says'Network is unreachable' when offline, no reply when online (if you use the ipaddress of the host system you do not need to add it to the lmhosts file) This is a stand-alone box without any network setup at present. Barry
Re: Tip of the day. Don't clobber your files.
On 10/14/05, Michael JasonSmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2005-10-14 at 12:16 +1300, Glynn Foster wrote: > > Dunno about that - baz-ng is looking pretty interesting. > > > > http://www.bazaar-ng.org/ > > > > Obviously very early stages of development though. > > I was evaluating the systems to determine which should be used by the > third-year students, so the criteria included good documentation, > stability, and the ability to work with firewalls. While Bazaar looks > really nice, it may need to mature a bit :) > > -- > Michael JasonSmithhttp://ldots.org/ > > Did you have a look at darcs? (www.darcs.net) It's fanastic! Isaac
Re: qemu & file transfer.
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:30, Nick Rout wrote: > I posted full instructions a week or so ago, it was a long thread so happy > hunting! Barry, IMHO the simplest instructions were the ones on the website you posted about http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Qemu Use these and the IP address as I mentioned in my last post and it just worked albeit with the less than satifactory reliabilty. (I kept thinking that it wasn't working but when I kept trying and retrying it would eventually work. Sometimes it would work first time without doing anything differently. WinXP has worked without fail) -- Regards, Robert -- Robert Fisher (aka - Rob, Bob, Robbie, Robbo, Fish) FishNet Computer & Electrical Services www.fisher.net.nz Phone: 03 383 5807 Mobile: 027 477 3356
Re: qemu & file transfer.
I posted full instructions a week or so ago, it was a long thread so happy hunting! On Thursday 20 October 2005 19:26, Barry wrote: > According to the documentation it should be possible to ftp files > to/from qemu, but how do i set this up? > > I have a need to t/f files each way. > > ftp is working, I can bring up a prompt in a xterm, and ftp to localhost > in gftp. I use gftp to access my website. > > Samba is installed & running. I looked at the conf file using swat and > laltered the workgrop name to 'WORKGROUP' same as windows. I also added > a qemu section as follows > > [qemu] > comment = Temporary file space > path = /tmp > read only = No > guest ok = Yes > fstype = FAT > > qemu starts windows 98 without any problem, but I need the -dummy-net > option unless I am on line. File & print sharing is enabled. Tcp/IP is > installed for dialup (automatic IP) & for ethernet(10.0.2.20 255.0.0.0). > What gateway do I set? > > Your ideas on what to try next are wanted > > TIA > > Barry
Re: qemu & file transfer.
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:26, Barry wrote: > > Your ideas on what to try next are wanted Try WinXP. (Not joking!) I had troubles with Win98 in Qemu but when it worked it was as simple as Start > Run > \\192.168.10.11 (if you use the ipaddress of the host system you do not need to add it to the lmhosts file) Trouble was that it was either slow or intermittently successful. With Win XP it works quickly and reliably. I am really happy with it. I will probably invest in more RAM to get better performance with it. -- Regards, Robert -- Robert Fisher (aka - Rob, Bob, Robbie, Robbo, Fish) FishNet Computer & Electrical Services www.fisher.net.nz Phone: 03 383 5807 Mobile: 027 477 3356
Re: Extracting from mac .bin files
On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 18:48 +1300, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > > The obnoxious file-roller program can read them. File-roller is part of > > the obnoxious GNOME desktop, clearly. > > Not sure what you're getting at, but thanks for the tip. Unfortunately > you're wrong at least for my version of gnome, where file-roller seems > to be GUI facade without guts: > > /bin/sh: unstuff: command not found Hrm, was just reading the help documentation - didn't actually read through the code ;) > Googling for it right at the top finds a commercial supplier but not a > lot in the line of Linux extractor programs. But the answer to my > question is here: > > http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Apps/stuffit-archives.html > > Easy to see why .bin is an obnoxious format. Unpacking a tar or zip just > works, as well as a raft of other archive/compression formats. You could always download the trial version, which gives you 15 days without being asked to register - I'm sure you won't be dealing with .bin's every day of the week!? Of course it probably requires a different version of glibc, and probably doesn't have a nice packaging format ;) > I also know why I don't much like gnome apps. File-roller can't even > remember the last directory it opened a file from. I love > click-me-to-death GUIs. Not. Hence obnoxious - but you filed a bug in bugzilla.gnome.org, right? Glynn
