Re: [OT] Oldest machine still running perl
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 23:01, Greg McCarroll wrote: * the hatter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I will open the bidding with a 486DX2-66 Running Debian 2.2 (still working as a firewall/NAT) I see your dx2-66, and raise(/lower) you my dx2-50. Curses, if onlyI hadn't found that machine in a skip a year or two back, Hmm, the 486 was around 93/94 wasnt it? if so i raise you an original indy which i am currently using as an X server and writing this email on. the indy was released about 92/93 IIRC. and yes it has perl on it. (its running debian if anyone is interested). Yeah, but it's 100MHz AND a risc chip with a decent cache so worth double. Greg -- Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Oldest machine still running perl
At 22:37 20/01/03, you wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Shevek wrote: I just gave away a 386/8MHz which ran it. Slackware 4.0. 386/8MHz ? Thee were lucky lad ! When I were a boy I had to make do with an abacus ! Just had a friendly argument with a hitchhikers fan as to whether or not an abacus was a digital or analogue computer. Alex Available for java/perl/C++/web development in London, UK or nearby. Apache FOP, Cocoon, Turbine, Struts,XSL:FO, XML, Tomcat, First meeting free.http://www.OWAL.co.uk/
RE: [OT] Oldest machine still running perl
On Tuesday, January 21, 2003 3:35 PM, Alex McLintock [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: At 22:37 20/01/03, you wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Shevek wrote: I just gave away a 386/8MHz which ran it. Slackware 4.0. 386/8MHz ? Thee were lucky lad ! When I were a boy I had to make do with an abacus ! Just had a friendly argument with a hitchhikers fan as to whether or not an abacus was a digital or analogue computer. Humm... A slide rule is a good analogy for an anologue computer. This should appeal to ZZ9ers. If I can remember the quote: Zaphod (about Eddie the shipboard computer): I think we'd be better off with a slide rule.
Re: [OT] Oldest machine still running perl
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 03:35:06PM +, Alex McLintock wrote: Just had a friendly argument with a hitchhikers fan as to whether or not an abacus was a digital or analogue computer. Digital, clearly, as it can not represent values over a continuous range, only discrete values across that range. It just doesn't use base two. -- Lord Protector David Cantrell | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david It's my experience that neither users nor customers can articulate what it is they want, nor can they evaluate it when they see it -- Alan Cooper
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David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 03:35:06PM +, Alex McLintock wrote: Just had a friendly argument with a hitchhikers fan as to whether or not an abacus was a digital or analogue computer. Digital, clearly, as it can not represent values over a continuous range, only discrete values across that range. It just doesn't use base two. Digital in the sense that the user's fingers form a vital part of the machinery. But (donning the pedantry trousers) it's not really a computer at all. -- Piers
[OT] Oldest machine still running perl
On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 01:38:47AM +, Piers Cawley wrote: Paul Makepeace [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 06:25:34PM +, Shevek wrote: I'd have to check my P60s to find out the exact dates. Wow, I thought my PII-233 was old! 386SX/25 ran my first linux box. But I think we've already done this. I will open the bidding with a 486DX2-66 Running Debian 2.2 (still working as a firewall/NAT) Paddy
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On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Patrick Mulvany wrote: On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 01:38:47AM +, Piers Cawley wrote: Paul Makepeace [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 06:25:34PM +, Shevek wrote: I'd have to check my P60s to find out the exact dates. Wow, I thought my PII-233 was old! 386SX/25 ran my first linux box. But I think we've already done this. I will open the bidding with a 486DX2-66 Running Debian 2.2 (still working as a firewall/NAT) I just gave away a 386/8MHz which ran it. Slackware 4.0. S. -- Shevek I am the Borg. sub AUTOLOAD{my$i=$AUTOLOAD;my$x=shift;$i=~s/^.*://;print$x\n;eval qq{*$AUTOLOAD=sub{my\$x=shift;return unless \$x%$i;{$x}(\$x);};};} foreach my $i (3..65535) { {'2'}($i); }
Re: [OT] Oldest machine still running perl
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Patrick Mulvany wrote: On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 06:25:34PM +, Shevek wrote: I'd have to check my P60s to find out the exact dates. Wow, I thought my PII-233 was old! 386SX/25 ran my first linux box. But I think we've already done this. I will open the bidding with a 486DX2-66 Running Debian 2.2 (still working as a firewall/NAT) I see your dx2-66, and raise(/lower) you my dx2-50. Curses, if onlyI hadn't found that machine in a skip a year or two back, I'd have undercut you a whole load more, and been merely a sx-25 (this machine is purposely old and crusty and too slow for most useful things - it's an incentive for me not to fiddle with it and upgrade stuff... it's also in a handy small case. But when I found a machine with the new CPU in it, I felt that such processing power was worth an upgrade, but not enough power for me to go crazy with it) the hatter
Re: [OT] Oldest machine still running perl
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Shevek wrote: I just gave away a 386/8MHz which ran it. Slackware 4.0. 386/8MHz ? Thee were lucky lad ! When I were a boy I had to make do with an abacus ! An abacus ? Thee were lucky lad ! When I were a boy I had to make do with scratching in the dust with a rusty nail ! [ Repeat until someone throws a dead parrot at you ] Simon. -- Oh no, not again.
Re: [OT] Oldest machine still running perl
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 10:37:04PM +, Simon Wilcox wrote: When I were a boy I had to make do with scratching in the dust with a rusty nail ! [ Repeat until someone throws a dead parrot at you ] http://www.smacdonald.com/songs/boy.html Roger
Re: [OT] Oldest machine still running perl
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 11:01:45PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: Hmm, the 486 was around 93/94 wasnt it? I had my first 486 when I started work in '90. It was a RM. -- Natalie S. Ford . [EMAIL PROTECTED] . http://www.natalie.ourshack.org
Re: [OT] Oldest machine still running perl
* the hatter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I will open the bidding with a 486DX2-66 Running Debian 2.2 (still working as a firewall/NAT) I see your dx2-66, and raise(/lower) you my dx2-50. Curses, if onlyI hadn't found that machine in a skip a year or two back, Hmm, the 486 was around 93/94 wasnt it? if so i raise you an original indy which i am currently using as an X server and writing this email on. the indy was released about 92/93 IIRC. and yes it has perl on it. (its running debian if anyone is interested). Greg -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.org.uk/~gem/ jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Oldest machine still running perl
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 11:01:45PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: * the hatter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I will open the bidding with a 486DX2-66 Running Debian 2.2 (still working as a firewall/NAT) I see your dx2-66, and raise(/lower) you my dx2-50. Curses, if onlyI hadn't found that machine in a skip a year or two back, Hmm, the 486 was around 93/94 wasnt it? if so i raise you an original indy which i am currently using as an X server and writing this email on. the indy was released about 92/93 IIRC. and yes it has perl on it. (its running debian if anyone is interested). Until a couple of years ago I had an IBM AT which still ran the original DOS port of perl on its powerful 6MHz 80286 processor with 512KB of RAM and 10MB of disk. More excitingly, I had a DECStation 5000/200 of 1990 vintage which would run the latest perl, but because it was running Ultrix wouldn't do dynamic loading, so I ran a staticly linked tkperl. Unfortunately, both remained in England when I didn't. The latter had a rather wonderful monitor which, along with the main box and two expansion boxes, provided heat for the entire room. -- Paul Johnson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pjcj.net