lug-bg: Lilo questions
Zdrawejte, Nqkoj move li da kave ka da si zarevdam framebufer oste pri startirane (ot lilo)? Znachi vga=ask ili vga=0x317 ne mi wyrshat rabota, zastoto se zarevda vesa framebuffer, a az iskam da polzwam primerno rivafb Drug problem e che iskam da digna modul za SCSI adapter oste tam. Move li da se izpolzwa append i ako move kakyw e tochno sintaksisa? 10x in advance Spas Pavlov A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: slackware 8,1 + autopkg
Mda, to clarify kato horata, ako ima zainteresovani i problema s glibc 2.3.x ne e razreshen pri pitastiq ... Development Libraries and Header Files ot edna versiq na glibc, i Shared libraries and Timezone data ot druga. ili kazano s debianski packages (ne mi se tyrsi kakvi bqha v slack), libc6-dev 2.3.1-2 depends on libc6 (= 2.3.1-2). dori i tova e nqmalo da se okazhe dostaty4no ... problema e v upstream glibc 2.3.x sources ... 2.3.x changes some symbols (__ctype_b, __ctype_toupper, __ctype_tolower) as hidden attribute. T.e. ne se export-vat tezi symbols, i syotvetno gyrmi linkage-a na squida... fix: da se export. Dokolkoto vidqh slackware ftp changelog, za sega nqma promqna v glibc-2.3.1 packages... fix za sega (t.e. da se export-vat gornite symbols) ima samo kato distro-specific patches (stoto se nalaga, dokato se 4aka upstreama) ... Ta vzimash ot debian unstable libc6 2.3.1-3 ili samo syotvetniq diff.gz, trebe ti debian/patches/glibc23-ctype-compat i recompile kakto ti namerish za dobre. RedHat systo imat fix ... taka 4e compiler-a (i linker-a) nqmat nisto obsto v slu4aq ... -- Greets, fr33zb1 [catching up with Sid (the boy next door who destroyed toys :-)] [reg your bg translation or grab one from http://www.bgit.net/?id=37892] A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
lug-bg: Kak ne se atakuva mrezhata ot root-serveri (chetivo za kandidat hackeri i nerealizirani talanti v oblastta na IT)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Zdraveite, Kakto niakoi ot vas veche sa razbrali prez minalata vecher be provedena flood ataka varhu mrezhata ot korenovi (root) serveri za imena. Celta beshe da byde suborana sistemata za imena v Internet. Atakata se e osnovavala na podavaneto na ogromen broi zaiavki kym vseki edin ot root-serverite. Nai-atakuvan e bil f.root-servers.net, koito se upravliava ot Internet Software Consortium (http://www.isc.org). Po Princip tova e i edin ot nai-natovarenite serveri za imena v Internet. Samia f.root-servers.net ne e edna edinstvena mashina, a e cluster ot 3 mashini, svyrzani chrez shema Loading balance. Celta na tazi shema e da razpredeli (da podchini zaiavkite na normalno razpredelenie) taka natovarvaneto, che srednostatisticheski vseki ot klysteriranite serveri da poema raven broi zaiavki, po otnoshenie na drugite mashini. Clustera ot mashini se namira v hosting centera na Paix.Net v Palo Altp (CA). Cllustera e systaven ot mashini ES40 HP AlphaServer, vsiaka mashina e s po chetiri procesora s taktova chestota 500Mhz i 8 GB RAM. (Ima danni (za sega oshte nepotvyrdeni), che syvsem skoro tezi mashini shte bydat zameneni ot chudovishteto Sun Fire 15K kato podrobnosti za tozi server mozhete da namerire na adres: http://www.sun.com/servers/highend/sunfire15k/ Ako tozi server byde vyveden v upotreba za root-server, i raboti na maskimalna moshtnost (pylna konfiguracia), za da byde floodnat shte e nuzhno da se floodva sam sebe si ) V originalnia variant clustera se systoi ot 4 mashini, sys imena syotvetno dozer, drew, jason i gjob. Do predi atakata raboteha samo drew i jason, no sega sigurno shte bydat dezhurno vkliucheni i drugite v ochakvane na novi flood-ove. Ako iskate da vidite MRTG diagrami na natovaravaneto na tezi mashini, molia posetete web-adres: http://f.root-servers.org Ostanalite root-serveri syshto sa seriozni mashini i imat tvyrde seriozna poddryzhka. V Evropa ima dva root-servera, po-moshnia ot koito e k.ripe.net i koito e cluster ot 3 servera. Namira se v London. Sega komentari varhu atakata. Pyrvo, atakata mozhe da byde narechena vandalska, no ne e hackerska. Pri neia niama nishto novo, nishto originalno i nishto tvorechesko, koeto da ia pravi zabelezhitelna s neshto, osven neinata masovost i goleminata na generirania traffic. Vtoro, ima kup obektivni realnosti, koito predopredeliat neuspeshnia rezultata ot atakata i az iskam da gi diskutiram pred vsichki chlenove na tozi spisyk. Nai-goliamata prechka pred uspeshnoto razvitie na podobna ataka e facta, che root-serverite rabotiat po princip dalech pod planiranata si moshthnost, t.e. te mogat da poemat svryhtovar. Po nepisan zakon natovarvaneto v pik ot redovni (a ne flood) zaiavki e do 75% ot moshnostite, i to ako niakoi ot drugite root-serveri byde izveden ot mrezhata po niakakav nachin i ne funkcionira. T.e. pomisleno e, kakvo shte stane ako 1 ili poveche ot root- serverite za imena byde izvaden ot stroia. T.e. scenaria za flood-ataka e bil razigran po nevolia oshte pri proektiraneto na moshtnostite. Vtorata prechka e reguliraneto na traffica i golemite bufferi za zaiavki, koito imat zashtitnite ustroistva... T.e. niakoi mozhe da zapushi sys zaiavki kanala, no ne i servera. T.e. pomisleno e i za tova. Tretata prechka e managiraneto na traffica po uslugi ot strana na maistralnite dostavchici, poddyrzhashti svyrzanostta na root-serverite kym osnovnite backbone mrezhi. Chetvyrtata prechka e cache-iraneto na zapisite za TLD ot strana na serverite za imena, izpolzvani kato forwarderi. TTL na tezi zapisi e dosta goliam i pitaniata kym niakoi ot root-serverite sa riadko iavlenie. Ako niakoi reshi da sybori root-serverite shte traibva da floodva s prodylzhitelnost po-goliama ot tazi na TTL, a tova e tvyrde goliam period ot vreme za da niama miasto za reakcia ot strana na zainteresovanite... S edna duma... Amatiorska rabota. Ako ima bylgari v ekipa atakuval root-serverite, moga da ima kazha Nekadyrna rabota... ima mnogo po- kadyrni i obosnovani nachini za ataka na mrezhite ot root-serveri... no za vsichko se iska mozak... Da vandalstva mozhe vseki.. malko sa tezi, deto mogat da misliat. Skoro imashe podobni opiti na floodove no na routeri na DigSys... amatiorska rabota pak, hem ot chuzhbina idvashe. Izobshto tendenciata kym masovo zatypiavane porazi i IT sectora... Kakto li oshte ni chaka!??? Na syzdatelite na BIND... admiracii. Proverkata na BIND kato softuer beshe poveche ot pokazatelna. Paul Vixie i ISC mozhe da pocherpiat... vypreki, che sega sigurno se chudiat kak v kratki srokove da povishat moshta na serverite si, za da niama iznanadi s godini... Vesselin Kolev -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9t+p2+48lZPXaa+MRAhudAKD6uLDv0EdBx8h2AQzp3m2bQSiQrQCg9IZS 5VDhvM6aY0+SWdGBJTcRasI= =0RiM -END PGP SIGNATURE- A mail-list of
lug-bg: Kak ne se atakuva mrezhata ot root-serveri (chetivo za kandidat hackeri i nerealizirani talanti v oblastta na IT) - Dopylnenie
Samo malko dopylnenie: Detaili ot attackata: Pyrvo UDP flood kym port 53 ... Sled neuspeha na tozi flood zapochva flood chrez ICMP paketi.. f.root-servers.net e poel 80 Mbit/sec ICMP traffic i tova leko e zabavilo obsluzhvaneto na zaiavkite. Tova se e povtorilo 10 pyti!!! Mozhe chovek da pridobie predstava za mashtabite na podobna ataka Vsashnost kato che li atakata e bila nasochena sreshtu f.root-servers.net (Palo Alto, CA - Operator ISC) i sreshtu k.root-servers.net (London,UK - Operator RIPE). Imalo e tri ataki i sreshtu drugite serveri koito se upravliavat ot ICANN i VeriSign, no sa bili po-malko... A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: Kak ne se atakuva mrezhata ot root-serveri (chetivo za kandidat hackeri i nerealizirani talanti v oblastta na IT)
On 24 10 2002 15:41, Vesselin Kolev wrote: poema raven broi zaiavki, po otnoshenie na drugite mashini. Clustera ot mashini se namira v hosting centera na Paix.Net v Palo Altp (CA). Cllustera e systaven ot mashini ES40 HP AlphaServer, vsiaka mashina e s po chetiri procesora s taktova chestota 500Mhz i 8 GB RAM. koi server za imena (s bind estestveno) raboti pod linux... ? ima edin takyf ... F ? please, q prati malko info ili link za root servers -- h/w, s/f, location, maintaining organization. (Ima danni (za sega oshte nepotvyrdeni), che syvsem skoro tezi mashini shte bydat zameneni ot chudovishteto Sun Fire 15K kato podrobnosti za tozi server mozhete da namerire na adres: http://www.sun.com/servers/highend/sunfire15k/ Ako tozi server byde vyveden v upotreba za root-server, i raboti na maskimalna moshtnost (pylna konfiguracia), za da byde floodnat shte e nuzhno da se floodva sam sebe si ) tozi server+os kakto i vsi4ki drugi named servers ne sa ncsc certified/evaluated, taka 4eee :P Izobshto tendenciata kym masovo zatypiavane porazi i IT sectora... Kakto li oshte ni chaka!??? installing sendmail ... damn whereis setup.exe ;-) switching back to windoz. realen primer ;-) -- Greets, fr33zb1 [catching up with Sid (the boy next door who destroyed toys :-)] [reg your bg translation or grab one from http://www.bgit.net/?id=37892] A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
lug-bg: Root-server operators and location
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Poveche informacia i linkove kym root-serverite za imena mozhe da byde namerena na adres http://www.root-servers.org/ Za drugite neshta az shte imam grizha da podam informaciata za hardware configuration, software, versia na BIND i svyrzanosht kym Internet Pozdravi Vesselin Kolev -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9t/pd+48lZPXaa+MRAkYjAKCR9FprCkLGPfZEcKLfx1ckoXJUPgCglleX OxW5aE2osTEkGJp2J0IlsQ0= =3ZLL -END PGP SIGNATURE- A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: pak tar
On Monday 21 October 2002 09:19, George Danchev wrote: èíòåðåñåí âúïðîñ ;-) ïðåäïîëàãàì, ÷å êîãàòî ñè ïðîáâàë ñ ïðîñòîñìúðòåí ïîòðåáèòåë (áåç íåîáõîäèìèòå ìó ïðàâà) îïåðàöèÿòà ïî âúçñòàíîâÿâàíåòî íå å çàâúðøâàëà ñ óñïåõ èëè èëè òîâà êîåòî î÷àêâàø ïîíåæå òîçè ïîòðåáèòåë íå å èìàë ïðàâà äà ìîäèôèöèðà ÷óæäèòå ôàéëîâå è äèðåêòîðèè..., à êîãàòî root ïðàâè òîâà ñ tar âñè÷êî å ÎÊ, ïîíåæå òîé êîëÿ è áåñè ;-). Íåçàáðàâÿé, ÷å ñìå íà unix âñå ïàê ;-). Áè òáÿáâàëî äà èìà íà÷èí (logging, verbose tar options ?) êàê äà ïðîñëåäèø êàêâî ñòàâà êîãàòî êîãàòî íå ñå ïîëó÷àâà òîâà êîåòî î÷àêâàø. Íå, íå ñòàâà äóìà çà ÷óæäè ôàéëîâå è äèðåêòîðèè, à ñîáñòâåíè. Òîëêîâà è àç ìîãà äà âêëþ÷à :))). Ïðàâÿ ñè ñ ìîÿ ïîòðåáèòåë àðõèâ, ïîñëå òðèÿ ôàéëîâå è äèðåêòîðèè îò íåãî è çàïèñâàì íîâè ôàéëîâå è ïðàâÿ incremental backup. Ïîñëå èçòðèâàì öÿëîòî äúðâî, äåòî ñúì ãî ñúçäàë è ñå îïèòâàì äà ãî âúçñòàíîâÿ îò àðõèâà. Îáèêíîâåíèòå ôàéëîâå ñå òðåòèðàò êàòî õîðàòà, ò.å. èçòðèòå tar íå ãè âúçñòàíîâÿâà (èëè ïî-ñêîðî âúçñòàíîâÿâà ãè è ãè òðèå), íî äèðåêòîðèèòå ìó ñúçäàâàò ïðîáëåì. Åòî êàêâî äàâà îïöèÿòà verbose: $ tar xvf temp2.tar --listed-incremental=snap temp/ tar: Deleting `temp/eight' tar: temp/eight: Cannot remove: Is a directory ... Åòî ãè è ïðàâàòà: drwxrwxr-x2 KeuH KeuH 4096 Oct 24 15:34 eight Ñ root account íÿìà ïðîáëåìè. Ò.å. íå ñå ïîÿâÿâà òàêîâà ñúîáùåíèå è âñè÷êî èçãëåæäà êàêòî òðÿáâà, çà òîâà íÿìà äà paste-âàì. Èíà÷å îòêðèõ, ÷å íå çàâèñè îò ôàéëîâàòà ñèñòåìà, ò.å. è â ext3 è â mount-íàò FAT32 ñå òàÿ. Òîâà å. Ïîçäðàâè, Âèêòîð A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: Kak ne se atakuva mrezhata ot root-serveri (chetivo za kandidat hackeri i nerealizirani talanti v oblastta na IT)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 24 October 2002 15:41, Vesselin Kolev wrote: Izobshto tendenciata kym masovo zatypiavane porazi i IT sectora... Kakto li oshte ni chaka!??? Ami ako mozem da napravim analogia s offline sveta kakuvto e v momenta - zabeljazvate kolichestvoto (ako ne i kachestvoto) na teroristichnite projavi v svetoven mashtab. Snoshtnite izpulnenia v Moskva sa ziv primer _700_ zaloznici!!! Tova e kachestvena promjana - we're going global. Smjatam, che ako napravja prjaka analogia sushtoto shte zapochne da se sluchva i v online sveta. Dostup do podhodjashti instrumenti, anonimnost, niska IT kultura na _mnogo_ potrebiteli - kolko poveche izkushenia sa neobhodimi? Smjatam, che globalnata kriza v I-net tepurva predstoi, shte bude pochti nekontroliruem haos i shte prikluchi s _mnogo_ ogranichitelni zakoni, pravilnici i regulacii. Ochakvat ni i neshta kato zabavjane razvitietio na Linux naprimer (nali sme Linux grupa :) ). Trugvajki kum Enterprise pazarite standartiziraneto na distribuciite e neizbezno, nikoj goljam vendor njama da pravi 5 versii na softuera si za 5 distro-ta i po-losho (a moze bi ne) shte se nalozi zabavjane na releas-ite po pochti sushtata prichina - nikoj njama da si kupi software za 200K$ za linux primerno ako sushtestvuva riska sled upgrade na OS-a (kernel, glibc, neshto drugo) softuera kojto si e kupil da spre da raboti. Imam chuvstvoto, che RedHat sus Advanced server-a si trugvat natam - edna stable enterprise linia, _bavno_ vuzpriemashta novite neshta i edna po-dinamichna distribucia sus vsichko novo ... E az ne sum mnogo dobur prorok, moze i da ne sum prav :) - -- Take care Boris Jordanov (borj) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 10751645 PGP-key-fingerprint:-- CB23 8B52 5FBC F36A 1B61 F1ED 2831 E52D AAFF 7B08 - -- Public-key:--- http://borj.freeshell.org/borj.asc - -- To err is human... to really foul up requires the root password. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9t/7GKDHlLar/ewgRAlmeAJ4udu+AuxDNj1yUqep9daFplEXWKQCgkicy RBqR54IVSyMGzdGwGq1F0N8= =9SVR -END PGP SIGNATURE- A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
RE: glibc 2.3.x issues (Re: lug-bg: slackware 8,1 + autopkg)
mi i taka ne e. pone to4no ne taka sled dneshniq udate na slack-current ne bi trqbwalo da ima problemi az imah syshtite problemi s xfsprogs. Problema beshe w libuuid koqto (pri slack) e 4ast ot e2fsprogs koito ne beshe prekompiliran sreshtu novata kombinaciq gcc-glibc, izteglih ot lubimiq si mirror slackware-current/sources/a/e2fsprogs/* i puisnah ./SlackBuild posle removepkg e2fsprogs; installpkg /tmp/e2fsprogs i bqh w bisnesa. Btw sled dneshniq update problemite trqbwa oste da sa namalqli zashtoto sa prekompilirani bolshinstwoto ot l-seriqta paketi wklu4itelno ncurses.. wwell larry Kostadin Karaivanov Senior System Administrator @ Ministry Of Finance tel: +359 2 98592062 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-lug-bg;linux-bulgaria.org]On Behalf Of George Danchev Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 3:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: glibc 2.3.x issues (Re: lug-bg: slackware 8,1 + autopkg) On 24 10 2002 15:07, George Danchev wrote: Mda, to clarify kato horata, ako ima zainteresovani i problema s glibc 2.3.x ne e razreshen pri pitastiq ... Development Libraries and Header Files ot edna versiq na glibc, i Shared libraries and Timezone data ot druga. ili kazano s debianski packages (ne mi se tyrsi kakvi bqha v slack), libc6-dev 2.3.1-2 depends on libc6 (= 2.3.1-2). dori i tova e nqmalo da se okazhe dostaty4no ... problema e v upstream glibc 2.3.x sources ... 2.3.x changes some symbols (__ctype_b, __ctype_toupper, __ctype_tolower) as hidden attribute. T.e. ne se export-vat tezi symbols, i syotvetno gyrmi linkage-a na squida... fix: da se export. Dokolkoto vidqh slackware ftp changelog, za sega nqma promqna v glibc-2.3.1 packages... fix za sega (t.e. da se export-vat gornite symbols) ima samo kato distro-specific patches (stoto se nalaga, dokato se 4aka upstreama) ... Ta vzimash ot debian unstable libc6 2.3.1-3 ili samo syotvetniq diff.gz, trebe ti debian/patches/glibc23-ctype-compat i recompile kakto ti namerish za dobre. RedHat systo imat fix ... taka 4e compiler-a (i linker-a) nqmat nisto obsto v slu4aq ... ama sym i az edna shmatka, zabraish linka kym to4noto obqsnenie: http://lists.debian.org/debian-glibc/2002/debian-glibc-200210/msg00093.html tova v slu4aj 4e ima oste fenove na glibc 2.3.x ;-), da sa naqsno to4no kak stoqt nestata. 10x i na rh ofcoz. -- Greets, fr33zb1 [catching up with Sid (the boy next door who destroyed toys :-)] [reg your bg translation or grab one from http://www.bgit.net/?id=37892] A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: glibc 2.3.x issues (Re: lug-bg: slackware 8,1 + autopkg)
On 24 10 2002 17:25, Kostadin Karaivanov wrote: mi i taka ne e. pone to4no ne taka ne ito4nqwash koe ne e taka, no maj govorime po4ti za edno i systo. (ama samo po4ti ;-) sled dneshniq udate na slack-current ne bi trqbwalo da ima problemi az imah syshtite problemi s xfsprogs. Problema beshe w libuuid koqto (pri slack) e 4ast ot e2fsprogs koito ne beshe prekompiliran sreshtu novata kombinaciq gcc-glibc, izteglih ot lubimiq si mirror slackware-current/sources/a/e2fsprogs/* i puisnah ./SlackBuild posle removepkg e2fsprogs; installpkg /tmp/e2fsprogs i bqh w bisnesa. Btw sled dneshniq update problemite trqbwa oste da sa namalqli tam e rabotata 4e e trudno da se opredeli koe e i koe ne e (kolko .a libraries) sa recompiled sreshtu novata glibc ...kapish ? i pri compile na software-ta i posle pri linkage-a - buum . ta patch-a e za vremenno, da se export tezi symbols, dokato vsi4ki .a libraries v sistemata se precompilirat s novata glibc. sega ne moga da kazha s to4nost kolko .a libs compiled against 2.2.x imate v vashite sistemi ... ne razbrah zasto e noviq compiler samo (gcc 3.2 ili ?) -- Greets, fr33zb1 [catching up with Sid (the boy next door who destroyed toys :-)] [reg your bg translation or grab one from http://www.bgit.net/?id=37892] A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
lug-bg: glibc 2.3.x gcc 3.2
George Danchev wrote: ne razbrah zasto e noviq compiler samo (gcc 3.2 ili ?) Â òàçè íèøêàòà íå çàáåëÿçàõ äà ñå ñïîìåíàâà gcc 3.2, íî glibc 2.3 ñå êîìïèëèðà ñàìî ñ gcc 3.2 èëè ïî-íîâ[1]. [1] http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-hacker/2002-08/msg00119.html -- Îãíÿí Êóëåâ [EMAIL PROTECTED], \Ïðîãðàìèñò\ A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: glibc 2.3.x gcc 3.2
On 24 10 2002 18:41, Îãíÿí Êóëåâ wrote: George Danchev wrote: ne razbrah zasto e noviq compiler samo (gcc 3.2 ili ?) Â òàçè íèøêàòà íå çàáåëÿçàõ äà ñå ñïîìåíàâà gcc 3.2, íî glibc 2.3 ñå êîìïèëèðà ñàìî ñ gcc 3.2 èëè ïî-íîâ[1]. [1] http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-hacker/2002-08/msg00119.html zna4i trebe se uto4nqwame togava ;-) ako distroto predlaga precompled glibc 2.3 packages, to gcc-3.2 ne e zadylzhitelno da go imame installed (mozhe i da e mozhe i da ne e, on user demand, pak on user demand mozhe da e mozhe i da ne e default compiler-a v systemata, tuka vnimatelno s c++ code-to, i az obi4am da imat nqkolko gcc versions ;-). libc6 2.3 _ne_ depends on gcc-3.2 , no libc6 2.3 build-depends on gcc-3.2 ... i gcc-3.2 _ne_ depends on libc6 2.3. za larry, v slu4aq ako squid se compile/link ve4e ok, to ne e kazano 4e ako imame glibc 2.3 x i compile somedanmcode.c linking s somedanmlib.a compeled against glibc 2.2.x ste e OK ... mozhe i da izreve pak ld zaradi tez danm symbols ne exported on glibc 2.3.x ;-) ok, mislq 4e e qsno ;-) -- Greets, fr33zb1 [catching up with Sid (the boy next door who destroyed toys :-)] [reg your bg translation or grab one from http://www.bgit.net/?id=37892] A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
RE: glibc 2.3.x issues (Re: lug-bg: slackware 8,1 + autopkg)
i squit 2.5stable1 se kompilqswa bez problemi . Kostadin Karaivanov Senior System Administrator @ Ministry Of Finance tel: +359 2 98592062 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-lug-bg;linux-bulgaria.org]On Behalf Of Kostadin Karaivanov Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 5:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: glibc 2.3.x issues (Re: lug-bg: slackware 8,1 + autopkg) mi i taka ne e. pone to4no ne taka sled dneshniq udate na slack-current ne bi trqbwalo da ima problemi az imah syshtite problemi s xfsprogs. Problema beshe w libuuid koqto (pri slack) e 4ast ot e2fsprogs koito ne beshe prekompiliran sreshtu novata kombinaciq gcc-glibc, izteglih ot lubimiq si mirror slackware-current/sources/a/e2fsprogs/* i puisnah ./SlackBuild posle removepkg e2fsprogs; installpkg /tmp/e2fsprogs i bqh w bisnesa. Btw sled dneshniq update problemite trqbwa oste da sa namalqli zashtoto sa prekompilirani bolshinstwoto ot l-seriqta paketi wklu4itelno ncurses.. wwell larry Kostadin Karaivanov Senior System Administrator @ Ministry Of Finance tel: +359 2 98592062 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-lug-bg;linux-bulgaria.org]On Behalf Of George Danchev Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 3:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: glibc 2.3.x issues (Re: lug-bg: slackware 8,1 + autopkg) On 24 10 2002 15:07, George Danchev wrote: Mda, to clarify kato horata, ako ima zainteresovani i problema s glibc 2.3.x ne e razreshen pri pitastiq ... Development Libraries and Header Files ot edna versiq na glibc, i Shared libraries and Timezone data ot druga. ili kazano s debianski packages (ne mi se tyrsi kakvi bqha v slack), libc6-dev 2.3.1-2 depends on libc6 (= 2.3.1-2). dori i tova e nqmalo da se okazhe dostaty4no ... problema e v upstream glibc 2.3.x sources ... 2.3.x changes some symbols (__ctype_b, __ctype_toupper, __ctype_tolower) as hidden attribute. T.e. ne se export-vat tezi symbols, i syotvetno gyrmi linkage-a na squida... fix: da se export. Dokolkoto vidqh slackware ftp changelog, za sega nqma promqna v glibc-2.3.1 packages... fix za sega (t.e. da se export-vat gornite symbols) ima samo kato distro-specific patches (stoto se nalaga, dokato se 4aka upstreama) ... Ta vzimash ot debian unstable libc6 2.3.1-3 ili samo syotvetniq diff.gz, trebe ti debian/patches/glibc23-ctype-compat i recompile kakto ti namerish za dobre. RedHat systo imat fix ... taka 4e compiler-a (i linker-a) nqmat nisto obsto v slu4aq ... ama sym i az edna shmatka, zabraish linka kym to4noto obqsnenie: http://lists.debian.org/debian-glibc/2002/debian-glibc-200210/msg00093.html tova v slu4aj 4e ima oste fenove na glibc 2.3.x ;-), da sa naqsno to4no kak stoqt nestata. 10x i na rh ofcoz. -- Greets, fr33zb1 [catching up with Sid (the boy next door who destroyed toys :-)] [reg your bg translation or grab one from http://www.bgit.net/?id=37892] A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: glibc 2.3.x issues (Re: lug-bg: slackware 8,1 + autopkg)
On 24 10 2002 18:19, Kostadin Karaivanov wrote: i squit 2.5stable1 se kompilqswa bez problemi . md :-) Taka, neka da poobqsnime razlikata kyde e tuka s ili bez ctype-compat patched glibc 2.3 (debian/rh specific patch). Zna4i patch-a/hack-a e vrememen dokato se recompile tezi libs (.a static binaries/libraries) sreshtu novata 2.3. te mogat da sa adski mnogo v distro archiva, ili pyk proizvolno koli4estvo instalirani vyv vashata sistema (idvasti ot distro archive-a ili koj znae ot kyde ;-). sled kato mine tozi transition (bez zna4enie dali vie si recompile kvito libs imate v sistemata, ili ste byde rebuild v archive-a na distroto i go dyrpate precompiled), vsi4ki sa happy, zasto: *export-vaneto na tezi missing symbols ot glibc 2.3 ne break-va nisto, t.e. kojto gi potyrsi, potyrsi, koj ne zhiv i zdrav ;-) *ne export-vaneto na tezi vyprosni symbols ot glibc 2.3, mozhe da dovede do sledniq damn loop: da ne mozhe da se rebuild nqkoj ot gornite danm libove;-). Rqdka situaciq, no mozhe i da se slu4i znaesh li, taka 4e po-dobre da sme safe i v tozi slu4aj. *gornoto garantira smislen transition, koeto e interesno za distribuciite, i ne tolkowa interesno za upstream glibc developers. Sled transition-a (v distro archiva ili na user system) tozi hack e izlishen razbira se i se otstranqva v sledvastiq version na distro package-a :-). To e qsno 4e vsi4ki users/distributions ste recompile vse nqkoga against glibc 2.3, vazhnoto e da se izbqgvt (dokolkoto e vyzmozhno) falove ot roda na onzi den squid-a, v4era drugo, dnes treto, a utre koi znae kakvo ;-). Taka 4e teoreti4eski vsi4ko mozhe da kloni asimptoti4no kym perfect-no/ideal-no, ostava prakti4eski da se dogoni teoriqta, s besen control ;-) eto kakva interesna situaciq mozhe da se polu4i ;-). opravqneto na dynamic linkage code bug v 2.2.x 4rez glibc 2.3 , da vodi do neobhodimostta ot edin takyv temporary hack za da se ugodi na vsi4ki (na distro users s nice transition i na upstream developers 4e damn bug is fixed -- taka vsi4ki sa v biznesa, ) P.S. Ogi, v slack current posledniq gcc e 3.2 ;-) -- Greets, fr33zb1 [catching up with Sid (the boy next door who destroyed toys :-)] [reg your bg translation or grab one from http://www.bgit.net/?id=37892] A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
