[LUTE] Re: Mac & lute typesetting
Am 07.12.2015 um 21:41 schrieb Samuel Lawson: if you use the musescore nightly buildt the extra strings work fine Wolfgang Daiss A few might be interested to know that the new version of MuseScore has pretty o-kay lute tab capabilities (with playback). It's not as good as Fronimo, but it's free and works great for 6-course, while 7 & 8 course is managable if the bass lines are not too active (for 8 course, you have to write with a full 8-line staff, then hide the extra lines and write in the slash notation in text -- yeah, that part's not so great, but it works). It's available for windows, max, and linux: https://musescore.org/ Slainte! Samuel J. Lawson On Sun, 6 Dec 2015, Roman Turovsky wrote: Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 10:35:54 -0500 From: Roman Turovsky To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Mac & lute typesetting There have been discussion of having to remap keyboard layouts in order to run Stringwalker, Django or Fronimo on a Mac. The good news is that I've plugged an Adesso windows keyboard into my MacPro and everything seems to work the way it is supposed to, both Insert and Delete keys work perfectly in combination with the Windows/Command key. Enjoy! Amities, RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "I love deadlines - I love the WHOOSHING sound they make as they fly by!" -Douglas Adams =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- sjlaw...@freeshell.org http://sjlawson.freeshell.org =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
[LUTE] Re: Mac & lute typesetting
A few might be interested to know that the new version of MuseScore has pretty o-kay lute tab capabilities (with playback). It's not as good as Fronimo, but it's free and works great for 6-course, while 7 & 8 course is managable if the bass lines are not too active (for 8 course, you have to write with a full 8-line staff, then hide the extra lines and write in the slash notation in text -- yeah, that part's not so great, but it works). It's available for windows, max, and linux: https://musescore.org/ Slainte! Samuel J. Lawson On Sun, 6 Dec 2015, Roman Turovsky wrote: Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 10:35:54 -0500 From: Roman Turovsky To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Mac & lute typesetting There have been discussion of having to remap keyboard layouts in order to run Stringwalker, Django or Fronimo on a Mac. The good news is that I've plugged an Adesso windows keyboard into my MacPro and everything seems to work the way it is supposed to, both Insert and Delete keys work perfectly in combination with the Windows/Command key. Enjoy! Amities, RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "I love deadlines - I love the WHOOSHING sound they make as they fly by!" -Douglas Adams =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- sjlaw...@freeshell.org http://sjlawson.freeshell.org =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
[LUTE] Re: mac - any other?
Learn to use Wayne Cripps' tab program. It's free and has beautiful and variable output for a variety of tablatures. It's not gui and user friendly like the other programs, but if you use it a while you really get to know it. Runs on Mac or PC, but was developed from Mac standpoint (I hope I have that right, Wayne). There is a user manual at the download site that explains it all. Regards, Leonard Williams /[ ] / \ | * | \_=_/ On 9/20/10 10:00 AM, "theoj89...@aol.com" wrote: > Are there any native mac programs (for the intel based macs) to write lute > tab? (rather than running windows on a mac) > > > trj > > > > > BTW: I have VMware Fusion on my mac, and HIGHLY recommend VMware over their > competitor, but still would rather work in mac OS if possible > > > > > > > Anyone out there who might be a fronimo user know of a mac program > that reads fronimo files - just got a mac = any suggestions > -- > To get on or off this list see list information at > [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > -- > > References > > 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > > > --
[LUTE] Re: mac - any other?
Yes, most of what you say Roman is correct, however I wouldn't say that it is a 'problem' that I wrote it for use by myself. Any Mac user, as I do, can run Windows and enjoy the excellent features of Django, Fronimo, Tab and others. My program is a different kind of tool which enables me to efficiently undertake jobs such as encoding large manuscripts such as Herbert of Cherbury, Cracow 40032, the incipits of all Italian 17th manuscript sources etc. It also produces voice-separated Midi files to facilitate conversion to staff notation - several lute professionals, when recording CDs, have asked me to translate their tab into staff notation for the recording studio. Miles On 2010-09-20, at 10:39 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote: > Yes, there is. > The problem with it is that the program in question was written for the sole > use by its creator, who happened to be so secretive as cover his hands during > demonstrations, to keep his input method secret. > Apparently he hoped to generate income from prospective tab typesetting jobs. > However that was the last news we've ever had about this program, with no > evidence whatsoever of its applicability in the real world. > > I simply keep a PC dedicated to Django, Fronimo, and a few audio programs, > and a Mac for video and graphics. > RT > > > - Original Message - From: > To: > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 10:00 AM > Subject: [LUTE] Re: mac - any other? > > >> Are there any native mac programs (for the intel based macs) to write lute >> tab? (rather than running windows on a mac) >> >> >> trj >> >> >> >> >> BTW: I have VMware Fusion on my mac, and HIGHLY recommend VMware over their >> competitor, but still would rather work in mac OS if possible >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Anyone out there who might be a fronimo user know of a mac program >> that reads fronimo files - just got a mac = any suggestions >> -- >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> >> -- >> >> References >> >> 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> >> >> >> >> >> -- > >
[LUTE] Re: mac - any other?
ditto - i've been using if for years On Sep 20, 2010, at 5:47 PM, Mjos & Larson wrote: > I use Finale on a Mac. It's tab feature is geared for guitar, but it can > produce excellent results. You can choose between letters or numbers. > Diapason notation is not built in, so workarounds need to be used. (I use a > custom font for diapasons, but David van Ooijen's scores show you how a > standard font would look.) > > http://earlyguitar.ning.com/profile/RockyMjos > http://lutegroup.ning.com/profile/RockyMjos > > http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/ > > Some others use Sibelius, but I prefer the control available in Finale. > > I have only used the "full" version of Finale, and don't know what is > possible with their Allegro or PrintMusic versions. > > http://www.makemusic.com/notation_software.aspx > > I believe demo version are available. > > -- R > > > > > On Sep 20, 2010, at 9:00 AM, theoj89...@aol.com wrote: > >> Are there any native mac programs (for the intel based macs) to write lute >> tab? (rather than running windows on a mac) >> >> >> trj >> >> >> >> >> BTW: I have VMware Fusion on my mac, and HIGHLY recommend VMware over their >> competitor, but still would rather work in mac OS if possible >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Anyone out there who might be a fronimo user know of a mac program >> that reads fronimo files - just got a mac = any suggestions >> -- >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> >> -- >> >> References >> >> 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> >> >> >> >> >> -- > >
[LUTE] Re: mac - any other?
I use Finale on a Mac. It's tab feature is geared for guitar, but it can produce excellent results. You can choose between letters or numbers. Diapason notation is not built in, so workarounds need to be used. (I use a custom font for diapasons, but David van Ooijen's scores show you how a standard font would look.) http://earlyguitar.ning.com/profile/RockyMjos http://lutegroup.ning.com/profile/RockyMjos http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/ Some others use Sibelius, but I prefer the control available in Finale. I have only used the "full" version of Finale, and don't know what is possible with their Allegro or PrintMusic versions. http://www.makemusic.com/notation_software.aspx I believe demo version are available. -- R On Sep 20, 2010, at 9:00 AM, theoj89...@aol.com wrote: Are there any native mac programs (for the intel based macs) to write lute tab? (rather than running windows on a mac) trj BTW: I have VMware Fusion on my mac, and HIGHLY recommend VMware over their competitor, but still would rather work in mac OS if possible Anyone out there who might be a fronimo user know of a mac program that reads fronimo files - just got a mac = any suggestions -- To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] Re: mac - any other?
My program is a native mac application, but it runs in terminal windows, it is not point and click. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/AboutTab.html http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/tab-serv/tab-serv.cgi Wayne On Sep 20, 2010, at 10:00 AM, theoj89...@aol.com wrote: > Are there any native mac programs (for the intel based macs) to write lute > tab? (rather than running windows on a mac) > > > trj > > > > > BTW: I have VMware Fusion on my mac, and HIGHLY recommend VMware over their > competitor, but still would rather work in mac OS if possible > > > > > > > Anyone out there who might be a fronimo user know of a mac program > that reads fronimo files - just got a mac = any suggestions > -- > To get on or off this list see list information at > [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > -- > > References > > 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > > > --
[LUTE] Re: mac - any other?
Yes, there is. The problem with it is that the program in question was written for the sole use by its creator, who happened to be so secretive as cover his hands during demonstrations, to keep his input method secret. Apparently he hoped to generate income from prospective tab typesetting jobs. However that was the last news we've ever had about this program, with no evidence whatsoever of its applicability in the real world. I simply keep a PC dedicated to Django, Fronimo, and a few audio programs, and a Mac for video and graphics. RT - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 10:00 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: mac - any other? Are there any native mac programs (for the intel based macs) to write lute tab? (rather than running windows on a mac) trj BTW: I have VMware Fusion on my mac, and HIGHLY recommend VMware over their competitor, but still would rather work in mac OS if possible Anyone out there who might be a fronimo user know of a mac program that reads fronimo files - just got a mac = any suggestions -- To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] Re: mac - any other?
Are there any native mac programs (for the intel based macs) to write lute tab? (rather than running windows on a mac) trj BTW: I have VMware Fusion on my mac, and HIGHLY recommend VMware over their competitor, but still would rather work in mac OS if possible Anyone out there who might be a fronimo user know of a mac program that reads fronimo files - just got a mac = any suggestions -- To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] Re: mac
thanks for the mac tips ss --- On Sat, 9/18/10, Sal Salvaggio wrote: From: Sal Salvaggio Subject: [LUTE] mac To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Saturday, September 18, 2010, 4:11 PM Anyone out there who might be a fronimo user know of a mac program that reads fronimo files - just got a mac = any suggestions -- To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: mac
Just sells the mac and buy a PC... (just joking) V. -Message d'origine- De : lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] De la part de Ed Durbrow Envoyé : dimanche 19 septembre 2010 02:40 À : Sal Salvaggio; LuteNet list Objet : [LUTE] Re: mac Not that reads them, but you could run the PC program on a Mac. Boot Camp? Parallels? Virtual PC? On Sep 19, 2010, at 5:11 AM, Sal Salvaggio wrote: Anyone out there who might be a fronimo user know of a mac program that reads fronimo files - just got a mac = any suggestions -- To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan [2]http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ [3]http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 2. http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ 3. http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/
[LUTE] Re: mac
Not that reads them, but you could run the PC program on a Mac. Boot Camp? Parallels? Virtual PC? On Sep 19, 2010, at 5:11 AM, Sal Salvaggio wrote: Anyone out there who might be a fronimo user know of a mac program that reads fronimo files - just got a mac = any suggestions -- To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan [2]http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ [3]http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 2. http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ 3. http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/
[LUTE] Re: mac
On Sat, 18 Sep 2010, Sean Smith wrote: > > It's a lot of stuff I know but I went the standard route and: > > --first bought the Virtual Machine to load Windows: Parallels (there are > others) > > --loaded a copy of XP from the olden days when we had Windows machines. > > --bought the Fronimoes. > > This was all years ago. There may be programs to emulate or open windows that > have come out since but I don't know of them. It's a shame to have to go this > complicated for a program that runs on W. 95 --I still usually use Fronimo > 2.1-- but there you are. Just a few weeks ago I I had to run a Windows program and installed VMware Fusion on my Mac. This does almost precisely what Sean describes, except that Windows runs in native mode on the current generation of Intel CPU based Macs. As a consequence, it runs much faster than it would in emulation mode. It's not complicated, although it's not what I would call elegant either, but it works. VMware Fusion can run a variety of different versions of Windows. > There are occasional hick-ups (printers, keyboard layouts) but it works OK. > As > a matter of fact I was just playing the r. guitar off the screen when I read > your note. ;^) I have not witnessed any hick-ups, just passing coughing fits, as occurred when I tried to use the USB port from Windows for the first time. I assume that this is standard Windows trouble and has little to do with VMware. I have not tried Fronimo, but I might eventually, if I ever overcome my aversion of MS -- how ominous an abbreviation! Peter. > > Sean > > > > On Sep 18, 2010, at 1:11 PM, Sal Salvaggio wrote: > >> Anyone out there who might be a fronimo user know of a mac program >> that reads fronimo files - just got a mac = any suggestions >> >> -- >> >> >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > the next auto-quote is: Kill one man and you are a murderer. Kill millions and you are a conqueror. Kill everyone and you are God. (Jean Rostand) /\/\ Peter Nightingale Telephone (401) 874-5882 Department of Physics, East Hall Fax (401) 874-2380 University of Rhode Island Kingston, RI 02881
[LUTE] Re: mac
Not really, but you can Install Windows on a Intel Mac these days either via Bootcamp or by using virtualisation via VMware or Parallels. VMware is on offer these days. So hurry if you want it. There is a lot of info about this to be found on the net. Lex Op 18 sep 2010, om 22:11 heeft Sal Salvaggio het volgende geschreven: >Anyone out there who might be a fronimo user know of a mac program > that reads fronimo files - just got a mac = any suggestions > > -- > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: mac
It's a lot of stuff I know but I went the standard route and: --first bought the Virtual Machine to load Windows: Parallels (there are others) --loaded a copy of XP from the olden days when we had Windows machines. --bought the Fronimoes. This was all years ago. There may be programs to emulate or open windows that have come out since but I don't know of them. It's a shame to have to go this complicated for a program that runs on W. 95 --I still usually use Fronimo 2.1-- but there you are. There are ocassional hiccups (printers, keyboard layouts) but it works ok. As a matter of fact I was just playing the r. guitar off the screen when I read your note. ;^) Sean On Sep 18, 2010, at 1:11 PM, Sal Salvaggio wrote: Anyone out there who might be a fronimo user know of a mac program that reads fronimo files - just got a mac = any suggestions -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Mac users working with TAB, help
Omer-- I am truly sorry to have wasted so much of your (and my) time trying to assist you with your tablature program quandry. Unfortunately, Wayne's time and web space has been wasted as well. Adieu to you, too! Regards, Leonard Williams /[ ] / \ | * | \_=_/ On 1/24/09 5:43 AM, "Omer Katzir" wrote: > Ho yes, He helped me a lot! > I already sent him the piece, I think it's already published, check > the site for O Katzir > > > On Jan 20, 2009, at 1:31 AM, Leonard Williams wrote: > >> Omer-- >>Rereading your intial post on this, it occurs to me that you >> may be >> having trouble compiling the source code--is this the problem?? The >> file >> that one downloads from Wayne's site is source code; the file needs >> to be >> un-zipped (just double -click it); then the makefile should be >> edited to >> suit your particular set-up (see the web site). Then in a terminal >> window >> cd'd to the location of the source code, type "make". finally, move >> tab and >> all its fonts to the folder where you want to keep them. >>I find tab to produce a very nice output (I've seen a number of >> published books of tablature produce with tab), so I hope you can >> get past >> these initial difficulties and start using it. >> >> Regards, >> Leonard Williams >> >> >> On 1/19/09 11:07 AM, "Omer Katzir" wrote: >> >>> I decided to use TAB, I can't work with finale and friends anymore. >>> all these applications can't write polyphony as should be. >>> >>> I download TAB from the FTP, and looked at the instructions, when I >>> try to use gcc I keep getting no input file, I install xCode, and >>> that >>> it...I actually don't know any thing right now... >>> >>> please help me :-* >>> >>> >>> >>> To get on or off this list see list information at >>> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> >
[LUTE] Re: Mac users working with TAB, help
ohh yes...and one more, is that format is the same as TAB? i see it saves the files as tabx On Jan 19, 2009, at 7:50 PM, Eric Crouch wrote: Try xTab, downloadable from here <[1]http://medievallute.info/>. It works fine for me. Eric Crouch On 19 Jan 2009, at 16:07, Omer Katzir wrote: I decided to use TAB, I can't work with finale and friends anymore. all these applications can't write polyphony as should be. I download TAB from the FTP, and looked at the instructions, when I try to use gcc I keep getting no input file, I install xCode, and that it...I actually don't know any thing right now... please help me :-* To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://medievallute.info/ 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Mac users working with TAB, help
It uses some old version of TAB...I hate to stay behind. And i tried it, looks interesting. For now I'll use it, but for later, I'm not sure... On Jan 19, 2009, at 7:50 PM, Eric Crouch wrote: Try xTab, downloadable from here <[1]http://medievallute.info/>. It works fine for me. Eric Crouch On 19 Jan 2009, at 16:07, Omer Katzir wrote: I decided to use TAB, I can't work with finale and friends anymore. all these applications can't write polyphony as should be. I download TAB from the FTP, and looked at the instructions, when I try to use gcc I keep getting no input file, I install xCode, and that it...I actually don't know any thing right now... please help me :-* To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://medievallute.info/ 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html