Re: Testing Release of 2.4.0 Development Branch

[Pavel Sanda]

On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 06:09:24PM -0400, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
> We will greatly appreciate any reports on how well these packages work!
> You can post comments either to lyx-users or to lyx-devel.

I would like to point out that the major push for this release was
to get some feedback about new Docbook output format we provide.

If anyone with related expertise could give it a try and provide
us the feedback that would be approeciated...

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Re: Testing Release of 2.4.0 Development Branch

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 10/30/20 7:27 PM, Shay Riggs wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 at 22:09, Richard Kimberly Heck  > wrote:
>
> Hi, everyone,
>
> We are beginning the process of moving towards the next major
> release of
> LyX, which will be 2.4.0. Toward that end, we have prepared a
> 'testing'
> release. Please note that this is very much for testing. We do not
> necessarily recommend that anyone use it for daily work, although some
> of us do. (Be aware that you may have to deal with some bugs and that
> files edited with 2.4.x cannot be opened in 2.3.x without being
> exported
> to that format.)
>
>
> I’ve been looking at the new table features (xltabular, tabularx…) and
> I love the improvements.
>
> Not sure if this is the appropriate forum for feature enhancements to
> v2.4, but I’d love a pair of “suppress column space beforeafter”
> tickboxes that put “@{}” before/after the column specifier.
>
> For example, if I have a table with several columns, one of which is a
> “Variable” width column, and then use the “LaTeX argument” field to
> override the definition, this triggers LyX into thinking you no longer
> want the X (“Variable”) type column any more, and instead of a
> “tabularx” table you get a “tabular” (which has no concept of an X
> column).

Probably best here to (i) file an enhancement request at the bug tracker
 and (ii) send a version
of this message to lyx-devel. That'll get it maximal exposure.

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Re: Testing Release of 2.4.0 Development Branch

[Shay Riggs]

On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 at 22:09, Richard Kimberly Heck 
wrote:

> Hi, everyone,
>
> We are beginning the process of moving towards the next major release of
> LyX, which will be 2.4.0. Toward that end, we have prepared a 'testing'
> release. Please note that this is very much for testing. We do not
> necessarily recommend that anyone use it for daily work, although some
> of us do. (Be aware that you may have to deal with some bugs and that
> files edited with 2.4.x cannot be opened in 2.3.x without being exported
> to that format.)
>

I’ve been looking at the new table features (xltabular, tabularx…) and I
love the improvements.

Not sure if this is the appropriate forum for feature enhancements to v2.4,
but I’d love a pair of “suppress column space beforeafter” tickboxes that
put “@{}” before/after the column specifier.

For example, if I have a table with several columns, one of which is a
“Variable” width column, and then use the “LaTeX argument” field to
override the definition, this triggers LyX into thinking you no longer want
the X (“Variable”) type column any more, and instead of a “tabularx” table
you get a “tabular” (which has no concept of an X column).

Looks like the same thing happens on multi-page tables too :-(

I suppose a more general solution might be to have text fields where you
can put in whatever “@{}”-style overrides you like without interfering with
LyX’s column specifier.

Both source code and binaries for Windows and OSX can be found here:
>
> http://ftp.lyx.org/ftp/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.4/
>
> Binaries for various Linux distros may or may not be available from
> their associated repositories. (But, if you are on Linux, you should not
> have too much trouble compiling the source. If you need help, just ask.)
>
> We will greatly appreciate any reports on how well these packages work!
> You can post comments either to lyx-users or to lyx-devel.
>

Can confirm: it compiles and runs fine (during my very limited tests) on
Arch Linux.

Looking forward to the final release!

Regards
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Re: Testing Release of 2.4.0 Development Branch

[José Abílio Matos]

On Thursday, October 29, 2020 10:09:24 PM WET Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
> Both source code and binaries for Windows and OSX can be found here:
> 
> http://ftp.lyx.org/ftp/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.4/
> 
> Binaries for various Linux distros may or may not be available from
> their associated repositories. (But, if you are on Linux, you should not
> have too much trouble compiling the source. If you need help, just ask.)

BTW if you are using Fedora or Red Hat Enterprise Linux/CentOS I created a 
copr repository:

https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/jamatos/lyx-devel/ 

There is just one package in that repository: lyx-devel. The package is 
parallel installable with the stable version and it does not change, neither 
uses any of the stable settings. That means that it is safe to use and 
uninstall that it will not mess with the current stable 2.3.5.2.

Beware that if you save a document with lyx-devel the stable version will not 
be able to read it (yet). On the other hand you can have a look of what is 
coming next in LyX without risking any work and helping to stabilize the next 
version.

> We will greatly appreciate any reports on how well these packages work!
> You can post comments either to lyx-users or to lyx-devel.
> 
> Riki

This applies as well, all feedback is welcome either here or on the lyx-devel 
mailing list.

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Re: Testing Release of 2.4.0 Development Branch

[Yu Jin]

Am Fr., 30. Okt. 2020 um 09:21 Uhr schrieb Baris Erkus <
bariser...@hotmail.com>:

> On 30-Oct-20 1:09 AM, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
> > Hi, everyone,
> >
> > We are beginning the process of moving towards the next major release of
> > LyX, which will be 2.4.0. Toward that end, we have prepared a 'testing'
> > release. Please note that this is very much for testing. We do not
> > necessarily recommend that anyone use it for daily work, although some
> > of us do. (Be aware that you may have to deal with some bugs and that
> > files edited with 2.4.x cannot be opened in 2.3.x without being exported
> > to that format.)
> >
> > Both source code and binaries for Windows and OSX can be found here:
> >
> >  http://ftp.lyx.org/ftp/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.4/
> >
> > Binaries for various Linux distros may or may not be available from
> > their associated repositories. (But, if you are on Linux, you should not
> > have too much trouble compiling the source. If you need help, just ask.)
> >
> > We will greatly appreciate any reports on how well these packages work!
> > You can post comments either to lyx-users or to lyx-devel.
> >
> > Riki
> >
> Would it be possible to set it up seperately, while keeping the current
> stable LyX 2.3.5.2. Particularly Windows.
>
> I know I have several installations of LyX on my PC and I did not have
> any issue using them all. Will this be the case for the test release?
>

>From all I know this should be no problem. You should just make sure that
you uncheck "File associations" while installing the testing release. The
only small issue could happen is that the preview of vector images (like
pdf) will not work, then simply run reconfigure from the LyX UI. Otherwise
you could always ask for help here if something goes wrong.
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Re: Testing Release of 2.4.0 Development Branch

[Baris Erkus]

On 30-Oct-20 1:09 AM, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:

Hi, everyone,

We are beginning the process of moving towards the next major release of
LyX, which will be 2.4.0. Toward that end, we have prepared a 'testing'
release. Please note that this is very much for testing. We do not
necessarily recommend that anyone use it for daily work, although some
of us do. (Be aware that you may have to deal with some bugs and that
files edited with 2.4.x cannot be opened in 2.3.x without being exported
to that format.)

Both source code and binaries for Windows and OSX can be found here:

     http://ftp.lyx.org/ftp/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.4/

Binaries for various Linux distros may or may not be available from
their associated repositories. (But, if you are on Linux, you should not
have too much trouble compiling the source. If you need help, just ask.)

We will greatly appreciate any reports on how well these packages work!
You can post comments either to lyx-users or to lyx-devel.

Riki

Would it be possible to set it up seperately, while keeping the current 
stable LyX 2.3.5.2. Particularly Windows.


I know I have several installations of LyX on my PC and I did not have 
any issue using them all. Will this be the case for the test release?


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Testing Release of 2.4.0 Development Branch

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

Hi, everyone,

We are beginning the process of moving towards the next major release of
LyX, which will be 2.4.0. Toward that end, we have prepared a 'testing'
release. Please note that this is very much for testing. We do not
necessarily recommend that anyone use it for daily work, although some
of us do. (Be aware that you may have to deal with some bugs and that
files edited with 2.4.x cannot be opened in 2.3.x without being exported
to that format.)

Both source code and binaries for Windows and OSX can be found here:

    http://ftp.lyx.org/ftp/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.4/

Binaries for various Linux distros may or may not be available from
their associated repositories. (But, if you are on Linux, you should not
have too much trouble compiling the source. If you need help, just ask.)

We will greatly appreciate any reports on how well these packages work!
You can post comments either to lyx-users or to lyx-devel.

Riki


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