Re: Emulators and OS frustrations

[Gregg Eshelman]

Grab the Starter disk image for Basilisk II here.
http://www.emaculation.com/articles/intro.html

When downloading Mac files with a .bin or .hqx
extention on a PC, use Internet Explorer and
right click then click Save target as...
Its possible with Netscape but by default it
attempts to display as text any filetypes it
doesn't recognize. Even if you do the rightclick
to save with Netscape, it then erases the filename
from the Save dialog box so you have to retype it. :P

After you have all of the .bin files saved to
your PC, use HFV Explorer to copy them all to
an .hfv file.

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Re: Emulators and OS frustrations

[Gregg Eshelman]

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> Hi,
> 
> I just recently discovered that I had the install
> file for Basilisk II on my 
> computer.  After installing it and working for a few
> minutes, I discovered 
> that, unlike SoftMac2k, this program actually runs
> properly on my PC!   
> Problem is, it wants System 7.5 or newer - and I
> only have 7.1 disks. 

First off, which ROM file do you have? The GUI
for Build 124 of Basilisk II will tell you which
Mac the ROM file is from.

Second, the 19 or 20 part downloads of System 7.5.3
are not individual floppy images. They're parts
of a single, self mounting image file. The only
way to get them to work is to have them all on one
Mac hard drive or image file.

Plenty of useful links on the Basilisk II homepage.
http://netti.nic.fi/~lpesonen/BasiliskII/

Get the Network_Access_Disk_7.5.sea.bin file from

ftp://ftp.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Macintosh/Utilities/

Here is System 7.5.3.

ftp://ftp.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Macintosh/System/Older_System/System_7.5_Version_7.5.3/

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Re: Emulators and OS frustrations

[Darren]

Brian Futrell wrote:

> I actually did this on the PC.  First, download all of the disk image parts
> to the PC.  Then, using HFVExplorer, copy them to your Mac HD disk image
> file.  Then you can get to them in Basilisk II.  Then once you get it to
> boot, double-click on the first part of the disk image to have it load the
> 7.5.3 disk image.
>
> I've tried 8.1 on a P3-800EB with 256MB RAM and 20GB disk space using a Q650
> ROM and a 500MB image file.  It boots, but crashes.
>

Ok, never thought of that one.
Thanks Brian.
My suggestion would be  do a search of google
for mac hardfiles. There are a few links but most are dead.
Here's one
http://www.graphixmad.plus.com/mac_troubleshooter/downloads.html
Dont be put of by Amiga here as the bloke who makes Basilisk made
ShapeShifter for the amiga. 1/3 down the page you'll find 2 hardfiles.
D/L the shapeshifter one. Now make your own hardfile, configure both
to run in the emulator with the download to boot and your C: mounted.
It works fine here. the hardfile has stuffit 4.01 on it which should get you going,

there is no diskcopy on the hardfile, d/l the .sit if you need it.
The emulator will complain abit if the floppy is not mounted, ignore it. :)
There are a few hardfiles out there, look around.

As for OS8.1, stick with 7.6.1 until you've got a good idea.
The way you install this makes a big difference. I start with the 8.0 install.
Do a custom install, install system for any computer, leave the rest blank.
Make sure it works by rebooting. Now install only what you need in
network, so no Arose and weird stuff like that. also only extension and
control panels that your sure of e.g. no printers, maybe one you have:)
I do this in parts because its easy to work out what's giving you trouble
if you have to do it again I also have my boot partition on a small (100MG)
partition and back up each working step before the next on a second, larger
partition.
This is alot of work with the flaky Mac installer but it is the only way I have
found to make OS8.+ stable in the long term. It also stops the really flaky
OS8.1 update from making a mess of what you have done.

I have done this many ways, this way is sadly best for me. Doing it all in one
step has always corrupted the hardfile and rendered it useless after a few
boots if it boots at all. As this is the last 68k mac os doing it right and saving
it
means never doing it again. :-)
Better ways welcome, pleease.

Good luck Matt.



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Re: Emulators and OS frustrations

[Brian Futrell]

I actually did this on the PC.  First, download all of the disk image parts
to the PC.  Then, using HFVExplorer, copy them to your Mac HD disk image
file.  Then you can get to them in Basilisk II.  Then once you get it to
boot, double-click on the first part of the disk image to have it load the
7.5.3 disk image.

I've tried 8.1 on a P3-800EB with 256MB RAM and 20GB disk space using a Q650
ROM and a 500MB image file.  It boots, but crashes.

Brian Futrell
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Macs"Mackey": iMac RevB 96/20GB/ZipCD/9.0.4
"Slim": 6100/66 Newer G3/250 72/4x4.5GB/4x2x6/Zip100/8.1

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> Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Mac-N-DOS List)
> Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 16:28:13 EDT
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Mac-N-DOS List)
> Subject: Emulators and OS frustrations
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I just recently discovered that I had the install file for Basilisk II on my
> computer.  After installing it and working for a few minutes, I discovered
> that, unlike SoftMac2k, this program actually runs properly on my PC!
> Problem is, it wants System 7.5 or newer - and I only have 7.1 disks.
> 
> I had previously downloaded the entire 7.5.3 OS on my (other) PC with a
> high-speed connection.  The file names go like this:
> System_7.5.3_01of19.smi.bin; and System_7.5.3_07of19.part.bin  .
> 
> Basilisk II won't accept any Windows-format disks and automatically "ejects"
> them when I start it up.  So what do I do... transfer each file to my
> PowerBook and then Mac-format all the disks and THEN attempt again?  (But the
> files are still PC-format...)  Or download every file onto my PowerBook
> (which uses 28k dialup) and then transfer files to Mac disks to load?
> 
> Oh - and also, what type _are_ these files anyway?  Are they Stuffits (or the
> like) to be unstuffed first or can I just go ahead and copy to floppies?
> 
> I'm very excited at finally having a working emulator on this computer... now
> only if I could use it... :-D


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Re: Emulators and OS frustrations

[Netman2000]

Matthew,

the system 7.5.3 files you have are parts of a Disk Copy image.  In order to
use them with the emulator you'll probably have to use a copy Disk Copy to
convert all of the pieces into one big image, and put that image back on the
PC.

Hope this works!
  Kerry

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Re: Emulators and OS frustrations

[Jeff Greffe]

Hey there !

7.5 is available at apple site for free ! Free is good
!!  :)
you can download it directly from there 

ftp://ftp.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Macintosh/System/Older_System/

There you go !

Jeff

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I just recently discovered that I had the install
> file for Basilisk II on my 
> computer.  After installing it and working for a few
> minutes, I discovered 
> that, unlike SoftMac2k, this program actually runs
> properly on my PC!   
> Problem is, it wants System 7.5 or newer - and I
> only have 7.1 disks. 


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