Re(2): MacGroup: Panther and Classic on a new hard drive

2005-06-02 Thread Harry Jacobson-Beyer
When I double click an OS 9 program I get a message that says Classic
can not find an OS 9 System folder to use.

I just checked and do not see any option for installing an OS 9 on any of
the three OS X install disks. 

When I formatted the drive I THINK I installed the OS 9 drivers but I'm
not sure. I guess I'm going to have to go back and reformat and reinstall
everything. Unless you or someone else has a better idea.

Thanks.

Harry

Wednesday, June 1, 20059:57 PMJerry Yeagerjerry at browseryshop.com

What happens when you double click on a OS-9 program?
Have you tried to install Classic from the OS-X install disk rather 
than the 9.1 CD?

   Jerry

On May 31, 2005, at 10:33 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer wrote:

 I sent this over the Memorial Day Holiday and didn't receive any 
 answers,
 I hope it got lost in the holiday so am resending.

 I installed Panther on a brand new hard drive in my ibook G3 800mhz
 computer. Classic was not installed. I put my 9.1 CD in the drive and 
 ran
 the installer and was told I already have system 9 installed (I do 
 not).
 I then tried to boot from the CD and install 9 - same thing happened.

 I connected an external firewire drive to the computer, booted from the
 9.2 partition and when I double clicked the installer from the 9.1 CD 
 was
 told I could not run the installer on the computer. Remember, I was
 running the installer from the iBook which was booted up in 9.2.

 Can anybody tell me what's going on?

 BTW, I partitioned the new drive - three partitions - all of which are
 Mac os extended and two of which are also journaled. The partition I 
 want
 to install 9 on is not journaled.

 Thanks.

 Harry






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Re(2): MacGroup: Panther and Classic on a new hard drive

2005-06-02 Thread Jerry Yeager
To install Classic, find the disc called Additional Software  Apple 
Hardware Test. Double-click on Install Extra Software. This should 
get you to the instruction screen for installing Classic.

What you have mentioned about installing the OS-9 drivers is important 
if you are doing the older dual boot method on older Macs that allowed 
you to start up in O.S. 9.x (obviously yours does :^).)

On Jun 01, 2005, at 11:25 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer wrote:

 When I double click an OS 9 program I get a message that says Classic
 can not find an OS 9 System folder to use.

 I just checked and do not see any option for installing an OS 9 on any 
 of
 the three OS X install disks.

 When I formatted the drive I THINK I installed the OS 9 drivers but I'm
 not sure. I guess I'm going to have to go back and reformat and 
 reinstall
 everything. Unless you or someone else has a better idea.

 Thanks.

 Harry

 Wednesday, June 1, 20059:57 PMJerry Yeagerjerry at browseryshop.com

 What happens when you double click on a OS-9 program?
 Have you tried to install Classic from the OS-X install disk rather
 than the 9.1 CD?

  Jerry

 On May 31, 2005, at 10:33 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer wrote:

 I sent this over the Memorial Day Holiday and didn't receive any
 answers,
 I hope it got lost in the holiday so am resending.

 I installed Panther on a brand new hard drive in my ibook G3 800mhz
 computer. Classic was not installed. I put my 9.1 CD in the drive and
 ran
 the installer and was told I already have system 9 installed (I do
 not).
 I then tried to boot from the CD and install 9 - same thing happened.

 I connected an external firewire drive to the computer, booted from 
 the
 9.2 partition and when I double clicked the installer from the 9.1 CD
 was
 told I could not run the installer on the computer. Remember, I was
 running the installer from the iBook which was booted up in 9.2.

 Can anybody tell me what's going on?

 BTW, I partitioned the new drive - three partitions - all of which 
 are
 Mac os extended and two of which are also journaled. The partition I
 want
 to install 9 on is not journaled.

 Thanks.

 Harry






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 | List posting address: mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
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Re(2): MacGroup: Panther and Classic on a new hard drive

2005-06-02 Thread Julia Aegerter
Hi all -

this classic topic brings up a question. I'm a newbie with a G4 ibook 
running OS X. I too have a program I would like to install that says it 
needs OS 9. Do I have to partition drive to install it. Or do I just 
put in the disc Jerry mentioned and install away?

Thanks

Julia Aegerter



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Re(4): MacGroup: Panther and Classic on a new hard drive

2005-06-02 Thread Harry Jacobson-Beyer
I don't have a disk called Additional Software  Apple Hardware Test. My
panther set came with 3 install disks and a Mac OSX XCode Tools disk.
None of which have OS 9. I do have the iBook software restore disks.
Should I try that?

Thursday, June 2, 200512:12 AMJerry Yeagerjerry at browseryshop.com

To install Classic, find the disc called Additional Software  Apple 
Hardware Test. Double-click on Install Extra Software. This should 
get you to the instruction screen for installing Classic.

What you have mentioned about installing the OS-9 drivers is important 
if you are doing the older dual boot method on older Macs that allowed 
you to start up in O.S. 9.x (obviously yours does :^).)

On Jun 01, 2005, at 11:25 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer wrote:

 When I double click an OS 9 program I get a message that says Classic
 can not find an OS 9 System folder to use.

 I just checked and do not see any option for installing an OS 9 on any 
 of
 the three OS X install disks.

 When I formatted the drive I THINK I installed the OS 9 drivers but I'm
 not sure. I guess I'm going to have to go back and reformat and 
 reinstall
 everything. Unless you or someone else has a better idea.

 Thanks.

 Harry

 Wednesday, June 1, 20059:57 PMJerry Yeagerjerry at browseryshop.com

 What happens when you double click on a OS-9 program?
 Have you tried to install Classic from the OS-X install disk rather
 than the 9.1 CD?

 Jerry

 On May 31, 2005, at 10:33 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer wrote:

 I sent this over the Memorial Day Holiday and didn't receive any
 answers,
 I hope it got lost in the holiday so am resending.

 I installed Panther on a brand new hard drive in my ibook G3 800mhz
 computer. Classic was not installed. I put my 9.1 CD in the drive and
 ran
 the installer and was told I already have system 9 installed (I do
 not).
 I then tried to boot from the CD and install 9 - same thing happened.

 I connected an external firewire drive to the computer, booted from 
 the
 9.2 partition and when I double clicked the installer from the 9.1 CD
 was
 told I could not run the installer on the computer. Remember, I was
 running the installer from the iBook which was booted up in 9.2.

 Can anybody tell me what's going on?

 BTW, I partitioned the new drive - three partitions - all of which 
 are
 Mac os extended and two of which are also journaled. The partition I
 want
 to install 9 on is not journaled.

 Thanks.

 Harry






 | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
 | be May 24. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
 | List posting address: mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
 | List Web page: http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup


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MacGroup: Mac OS X Hints has been assimilated by MacWorld

2005-06-02 Thread Rex Baldazo
If you didn't see the post last night, MacWorld has hired on the guy who
runs Mac OS X Hints:

http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20050601001239978

He'll apparently though keep running the site as a standalone entity, it
won't be integrated directly into MacWorld.com.

--- Rex.



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Re(2): MacGroup: Panther and Classic on a new hard drive

2005-06-02 Thread Jerry Yeager
This article from Apple may help:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106678


On Jun 02, 2005, at 8:45 AM, Julia Aegerter wrote:

 Hi all -

 this classic topic brings up a question. I'm a newbie with a G4 ibook 
 running OS X. I too have a program I would like to install that says 
 it needs OS 9. Do I have to partition drive to install it. Or do I 
 just put in the disc Jerry mentioned and install away?

 Thanks

 Julia Aegerter



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Re(4): MacGroup: Panther and Classic on a new hard drive

2005-06-02 Thread Jerry Yeager
It does sound like that may be what you will need to do

if you follow the links in this article
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106678

it will guide you through doing that.


On Jun 02, 2005, at 9:13 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer wrote:

 I don't have a disk called Additional Software  Apple Hardware Test. 
 My
 panther set came with 3 install disks and a Mac OSX XCode Tools disk.
 None of which have OS 9. I do have the iBook software restore disks.
 Should I try that?

 Thursday, June 2, 200512:12 AMJerry Yeagerjerry at browseryshop.com

 To install Classic, find the disc called Additional Software  Apple
 Hardware Test. Double-click on Install Extra Software. This should
 get you to the instruction screen for installing Classic.

 What you have mentioned about installing the OS-9 drivers is important
 if you are doing the older dual boot method on older Macs that allowed
 you to start up in O.S. 9.x (obviously yours does :^).)

 On Jun 01, 2005, at 11:25 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer wrote:

 When I double click an OS 9 program I get a message that says 
 Classic
 can not find an OS 9 System folder to use.

 I just checked and do not see any option for installing an OS 9 on 
 any
 of
 the three OS X install disks.

 When I formatted the drive I THINK I installed the OS 9 drivers but 
 I'm
 not sure. I guess I'm going to have to go back and reformat and
 reinstall
 everything. Unless you or someone else has a better idea.

 Thanks.

 Harry

 Wednesday, June 1, 20059:57 PMJerry Yeagerjerry at browseryshop.com

 What happens when you double click on a OS-9 program?
 Have you tried to install Classic from the OS-X install disk rather
 than the 9.1 CD?

Jerry

 On May 31, 2005, at 10:33 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer wrote:

 I sent this over the Memorial Day Holiday and didn't receive any
 answers,
 I hope it got lost in the holiday so am resending.

 I installed Panther on a brand new hard drive in my ibook G3 800mhz
 computer. Classic was not installed. I put my 9.1 CD in the drive 
 and
 ran
 the installer and was told I already have system 9 installed (I do
 not).
 I then tried to boot from the CD and install 9 - same thing 
 happened.

 I connected an external firewire drive to the computer, booted from
 the
 9.2 partition and when I double clicked the installer from the 9.1 
 CD
 was
 told I could not run the installer on the computer. Remember, I was
 running the installer from the iBook which was booted up in 9.2.

 Can anybody tell me what's going on?

 BTW, I partitioned the new drive - three partitions - all of which
 are
 Mac os extended and two of which are also journaled. The partition 
 I
 want
 to install 9 on is not journaled.

 Thanks.

 Harry






 | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
 | be May 24. The LCS Web page is http://www.kymac.org.
 | List posting address: mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
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MacGroup: 9.2.2 and file sharing extension

2005-06-02 Thread Nelsn Helm
Running OS 9.2.2 on an old iBook,
which locks up, freezes when I try to do two things at once, or open 
an email with an attachment.

The error message is about file sharing extension.

What to do?


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MacGroup: 9.2.2 and file sharing extension

2005-06-02 Thread Bill Holt
Have you reinstalled the email program, or checked to see if other 
programs have the same result?  Using MS Outlook, I used to see that 
sort of thing as it seems that the program just naturally broke down, 
over time ... kinda like me.


On Thursday, June 2, 2005, at 02:40  PM, Nelsn Helm wrote:

 Running OS 9.2.2 on an old iBook,
 which locks up, freezes when I try to do two things at once, or open 
 an email with an attachment.

 The error message is about file sharing extension.

 What to do?


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MacGroup: 9.2.2 and file sharing extension

2005-06-02 Thread Nelsn Helm
Using Eudora v. 4.x, which I don't remember re-installing, but the 
computer crashes e.g. when stuffing a file while copying other files.

My hypothesis: any time two programs access files simultaneously, it 
crashes. Crashing when opening e-mails with attachments fits this 
(doesn't it?), because the attachment triggers a 2nd program to open 
it.



At 3:16 PM -0400 6/2/05, Bill Holt wrote:
Have you reinstalled the email program, or checked to see if other 
programs have the same result?  Using MS Outlook, I used to see that 
sort of thing as it seems that the program just naturally broke 
down, over time ... kinda like me.


On Thursday, June 2, 2005, at 02:40  PM, Nelsn Helm wrote:

Running OS 9.2.2 on an old iBook,
which locks up, freezes when I try to do two things at once, or 
open an email with an attachment.

The error message is about file sharing extension.

What to do?


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