Re: As unreliable as Windows
Yeah. I am getting around to playing with the settings too and it is working better for me. It's just weird having to go through this process of adjusting the way I use my computer with each update. Have you tried navigating in iTunes in the browser and songs table without quicknav turned on? That's when it doesn't work. It's weird. The vo cursor tracks the system cursor but the system cursor does not track VO. On top of that the system cursor in iTunes does not read items. So if you deactivate quicknav and navigate with the system cursor that is why it is silent. Activate quicknav and navigate with vo cursor, and it works better, though has been sluggish with me. But like I said, with the fact that the vo cursor does not track the system cursor, if you want to jump to an item in the browser by typing the first letters of it, the system cursor goes to it and leaves the vo cursor behind, making it look like you didn't move anywhere if you arrow up and down to check where you are. I'm adjusting Justin El Aug 30, 2009, a las 3:46 AM, Marie Howarth escribió: > > Justin, what you finding different about finder and itunes? maybe I'm > missing something here. once I played around with some of the settings > in VO, everything worked great, if not better. > > On Aug 30, 2009, at 7:24 AM, Justin Harford wrote: > >> >> I found it went faster, about 30 mins, when I did a clean install. >> >> It's sort of more accessible. I mean they improved the internet >> quite >> a lot. But I would argue that finder and iTunes were more better >> integrated with voiceover under leopard. They really let cursor >> tracking get all mucked up. >> >> Oh well, I was more prepared for this transfering from leopard to >> snow >> leopard than I was going from tiger to leopard. It's just that >> things >> change when apple does upgrades. I guess there are things that get >> added like braille that make the system ultimately a step forward, >> but >> then they go and break things that worked really well in the prior >> system which leaves one wondering if it is really a step forward. I >> guess ultimately it might be a step forward. I like the new antonio >> voice in the castellian spanish package from acapela. >> >> Regards >> Justin Harford >> On Aug 29, 2009, at 9:18 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> >>> >>> I found that around 42 percent, it really sped up quite a bit. >>> Probably the first part copies a bunch of temporary files and then >>> it >>> does the actual install. One thing's for sure, it's more accessible >>> than any windows install has ever been. >>> On Aug 29, 2009, at 9:28 PM, Rich Ring wrote: >>> Well, one thing about the Mac is about as reliable as Windows. I am currently doing a clean install of SL on my brand new Mac Mini. About twenty minutes ago, I was advised that the install was 19.8 per cent complete, and that the time remaining was 29 minutes. Now, I'm told that the install is at 55 per cent and the time remaining is 28 minutes. Go figure! > >>> >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: As unreliable as Windows
Amen to that. I was just commenting on the fact that the time and percentage were weird just like Windows. I mean, I can install it by myself. that's great. - Original Message - From: "Mike Arrigo" To: Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 11:18 PM Subject: Re: As unreliable as Windows I found that around 42 percent, it really sped up quite a bit. Probably the first part copies a bunch of temporary files and then it does the actual install. One thing's for sure, it's more accessible than any windows install has ever been. On Aug 29, 2009, at 9:28 PM, Rich Ring wrote: > > > Well, one thing about the Mac is about as reliable as Windows. > I am currently doing a clean install of SL on my brand new Mac > Mini. About > twenty minutes ago, I was advised that the install was 19.8 per cent > complete, and that the time remaining was 29 minutes. Now, I'm told > that > the install is at 55 per cent and the time remaining is 28 minutes. > Go > figure! > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: As unreliable as Windows
Justin, what you finding different about finder and itunes? maybe I'm missing something here. once I played around with some of the settings in VO, everything worked great, if not better. On Aug 30, 2009, at 7:24 AM, Justin Harford wrote: > > I found it went faster, about 30 mins, when I did a clean install. > > It's sort of more accessible. I mean they improved the internet quite > a lot. But I would argue that finder and iTunes were more better > integrated with voiceover under leopard. They really let cursor > tracking get all mucked up. > > Oh well, I was more prepared for this transfering from leopard to snow > leopard than I was going from tiger to leopard. It's just that things > change when apple does upgrades. I guess there are things that get > added like braille that make the system ultimately a step forward, but > then they go and break things that worked really well in the prior > system which leaves one wondering if it is really a step forward. I > guess ultimately it might be a step forward. I like the new antonio > voice in the castellian spanish package from acapela. > > Regards > Justin Harford > On Aug 29, 2009, at 9:18 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > >> >> I found that around 42 percent, it really sped up quite a bit. >> Probably the first part copies a bunch of temporary files and then it >> does the actual install. One thing's for sure, it's more accessible >> than any windows install has ever been. >> On Aug 29, 2009, at 9:28 PM, Rich Ring wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Well, one thing about the Mac is about as reliable as Windows. >>> I am currently doing a clean install of SL on my brand new Mac >>> Mini. About >>> twenty minutes ago, I was advised that the install was 19.8 per cent >>> complete, and that the time remaining was 29 minutes. Now, I'm told >>> that >>> the install is at 55 per cent and the time remaining is 28 minutes. >>> Go >>> figure! >>> >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: As unreliable as Windows
I found it went faster, about 30 mins, when I did a clean install. It's sort of more accessible. I mean they improved the internet quite a lot. But I would argue that finder and iTunes were more better integrated with voiceover under leopard. They really let cursor tracking get all mucked up. Oh well, I was more prepared for this transfering from leopard to snow leopard than I was going from tiger to leopard. It's just that things change when apple does upgrades. I guess there are things that get added like braille that make the system ultimately a step forward, but then they go and break things that worked really well in the prior system which leaves one wondering if it is really a step forward. I guess ultimately it might be a step forward. I like the new antonio voice in the castellian spanish package from acapela. Regards Justin Harford On Aug 29, 2009, at 9:18 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > > I found that around 42 percent, it really sped up quite a bit. > Probably the first part copies a bunch of temporary files and then it > does the actual install. One thing's for sure, it's more accessible > than any windows install has ever been. > On Aug 29, 2009, at 9:28 PM, Rich Ring wrote: > >> >> >> Well, one thing about the Mac is about as reliable as Windows. >> I am currently doing a clean install of SL on my brand new Mac >> Mini. About >> twenty minutes ago, I was advised that the install was 19.8 per cent >> complete, and that the time remaining was 29 minutes. Now, I'm told >> that >> the install is at 55 per cent and the time remaining is 28 minutes. >> Go >> figure! >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: As unreliable as Windows
I found that around 42 percent, it really sped up quite a bit. Probably the first part copies a bunch of temporary files and then it does the actual install. One thing's for sure, it's more accessible than any windows install has ever been. On Aug 29, 2009, at 9:28 PM, Rich Ring wrote: > > > Well, one thing about the Mac is about as reliable as Windows. > I am currently doing a clean install of SL on my brand new Mac > Mini. About > twenty minutes ago, I was advised that the install was 19.8 per cent > complete, and that the time remaining was 29 minutes. Now, I'm told > that > the install is at 55 per cent and the time remaining is 28 minutes. > Go > figure! > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
As unreliable as Windows
Well, one thing about the Mac is about as reliable as Windows. I am currently doing a clean install of SL on my brand new Mac Mini. About twenty minutes ago, I was advised that the install was 19.8 per cent complete, and that the time remaining was 29 minutes. Now, I'm told that the install is at 55 per cent and the time remaining is 28 minutes. Go figure! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---