Re: Weird Mail Rules issue

2012-08-10 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
I used filters on gmail and they wrk just fine.

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On Aug 4, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Harry Hogue  wrote:

> Tim,
> 
> Thanks very much.  I will give this a try by first deleting the current 
> mailbox, so that I can relocate it; I'm not sure how to go about just moving 
> it.
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Harry
> 
> On Aug 4, 2012, at 9:37 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Harry,
>> 
>> First, the All Mail thing from GMail is just there, it's something from 
>> Google and, as far as I can tell, you can't do anything about it.  So, I 
>> just ignore its existence.
>> 
>> Now, for your other issue, if the GMail Mailbox/InBox is selected when you 
>> create a new mailbox, the folder will be placed in the top level of that 
>> mailbox unless you tell it otherwise upon creation.  Each mailbox is 
>> attached to each mail account.  That is, your GMail InBox is attached to the 
>> GMail account and any other folders you've created are also attached to that 
>> account.  Mailboxes must be attached to an account, they cannot just sit 
>> there within the Mail app without being referenced as part of a specific 
>> account.  I guess, when you set it up, you could tell the folder to be 
>> located at the top level, the same as your InBoxes.  I've never done that 
>> but I would assume it's possible.  When you create a Mailbox, in the dialog 
>> that appears, there is a pop-up menu that is for the location of the given 
>> mailbox.
>> 
>> With respect to mail not being placed where it's supposed to, that's either 
>> a problem with the initial setup of the rule or sometimes even with the way 
>> senders address there messages.  I've noticed that sometimes people have 
>> specific people in their To field and MacVisionaries in the cc and various 
>> other interesting combinations.  What I did for this is, in my rule, 
>> specified that the "To" c"Contains" "MacVisionaries" and that  the "cc" 
>> "Contains" "MacVisionaries".  So, in this case, you would want to match 
>> "Any" of the rules (as opposed to "All"), and by simply asking if either 
>> "contains" "MacVisionaries", it usually got around any of the differences in 
>> how others addressed their messages.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On 2012-08-03, at 5:17 PM, Harry Hogue  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, guys,
>>> 
>>> I have set a rule for the Mac Visionaries group, but it doesn't seem to 
>>> work the greatest.  I set the rule to have messages sent to 
>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com be moved to the Mac Visionaries folder, and 
>>> it put that folder in my Google mail list for some reason.  The issue is 
>>> that I see some messages in the "Important" mailbox, some in the Mac 
>>> Visionaries group, but not all, I don't think, and then there's the "All 
>>> Mail" mailbox for Google.  Ideally, I would like to have all messages go to 
>>> the Mac Visionaries folder and have that folder just above my Gmail 
>>> account.  I really don't have any use for the "All Mail," "Important," the 
>>> Google sent items folder under Google Mail, etc.  It just seems like a lot 
>>> of duplication.  Any advice about how to get this sorted, including moving 
>>> the mailbox, would be very much appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Harry
>>> 
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Weird Mail Rules issue

2012-08-06 Thread Paul Erkens
> Harry,
> 
> I don't have an answer. Just want to add that I am having the exact same 
> problem. I made a rule for all messages with macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> in either their to, cc, bcc or reply to field. Most go into my mac 
> visionaries folder, but not all. I don't know if some are duplicates in other 
> folders, or that they were simply not caught by the rule when they came in. 
> It could be that mail itself, filters its important messages over to the 
> important mailbox, even before it applies our rules. I hope someone will 
> chime in on this if they have a solution.
> 
> Paul.
> On Aug 4, 2012, at 1:17 AM, Harry Hogue  wrote:
> 
>> Hi, guys,
>> 
>> I have set a rule for the Mac Visionaries group, but it doesn't seem to work 
>> the greatest.  I set the rule to have messages sent to 
>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com be moved to the Mac Visionaries folder, and 
>> it put that folder in my Google mail list for some reason.  The issue is 
>> that I see some messages in the "Important" mailbox, some in the Mac 
>> Visionaries group, but not all, I don't think, and then there's the "All 
>> Mail" mailbox for Google.  Ideally, I would like to have all messages go to 
>> the Mac Visionaries folder and have that folder just above my Gmail account. 
>>  I really don't have any use for the "All Mail," "Important," the Google 
>> sent items folder under Google Mail, etc.  It just seems like a lot of 
>> duplication.  Any advice about how to get this sorted, including moving the 
>> mailbox, would be very much appreciated.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Harry
>> 
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Re: Weird Mail Rules issue

2012-08-04 Thread Harry Hogue
Tim,

Thanks very much.  I will give this a try by first deleting the current 
mailbox, so that I can relocate it; I'm not sure how to go about just moving it.

Take care,

Harry

On Aug 4, 2012, at 9:37 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi Harry,
> 
> First, the All Mail thing from GMail is just there, it's something from 
> Google and, as far as I can tell, you can't do anything about it.  So, I just 
> ignore its existence.
> 
> Now, for your other issue, if the GMail Mailbox/InBox is selected when you 
> create a new mailbox, the folder will be placed in the top level of that 
> mailbox unless you tell it otherwise upon creation.  Each mailbox is attached 
> to each mail account.  That is, your GMail InBox is attached to the GMail 
> account and any other folders you've created are also attached to that 
> account.  Mailboxes must be attached to an account, they cannot just sit 
> there within the Mail app without being referenced as part of a specific 
> account.  I guess, when you set it up, you could tell the folder to be 
> located at the top level, the same as your InBoxes.  I've never done that but 
> I would assume it's possible.  When you create a Mailbox, in the dialog that 
> appears, there is a pop-up menu that is for the location of the given mailbox.
> 
> With respect to mail not being placed where it's supposed to, that's either a 
> problem with the initial setup of the rule or sometimes even with the way 
> senders address there messages.  I've noticed that sometimes people have 
> specific people in their To field and MacVisionaries in the cc and various 
> other interesting combinations.  What I did for this is, in my rule, 
> specified that the "To" c"Contains" "MacVisionaries" and that  the "cc" 
> "Contains" "MacVisionaries".  So, in this case, you would want to match "Any" 
> of the rules (as opposed to "All"), and by simply asking if either "contains" 
> "MacVisionaries", it usually got around any of the differences in how others 
> addressed their messages.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2012-08-03, at 5:17 PM, Harry Hogue  wrote:
> 
>> Hi, guys,
>> 
>> I have set a rule for the Mac Visionaries group, but it doesn't seem to work 
>> the greatest.  I set the rule to have messages sent to 
>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com be moved to the Mac Visionaries folder, and 
>> it put that folder in my Google mail list for some reason.  The issue is 
>> that I see some messages in the "Important" mailbox, some in the Mac 
>> Visionaries group, but not all, I don't think, and then there's the "All 
>> Mail" mailbox for Google.  Ideally, I would like to have all messages go to 
>> the Mac Visionaries folder and have that folder just above my Gmail account. 
>>  I really don't have any use for the "All Mail," "Important," the Google 
>> sent items folder under Google Mail, etc.  It just seems like a lot of 
>> duplication.  Any advice about how to get this sorted, including moving the 
>> mailbox, would be very much appreciated.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Harry
>> 
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Re: Weird Mail Rules issue

2012-08-04 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi Harry,

First, the All Mail thing from GMail is just there, it's something from Google 
and, as far as I can tell, you can't do anything about it.  So, I just ignore 
its existence.

Now, for your other issue, if the GMail Mailbox/InBox is selected when you 
create a new mailbox, the folder will be placed in the top level of that 
mailbox unless you tell it otherwise upon creation.  Each mailbox is attached 
to each mail account.  That is, your GMail InBox is attached to the GMail 
account and any other folders you've created are also attached to that account. 
 Mailboxes must be attached to an account, they cannot just sit there within 
the Mail app without being referenced as part of a specific account.  I guess, 
when you set it up, you could tell the folder to be located at the top level, 
the same as your InBoxes.  I've never done that but I would assume it's 
possible.  When you create a Mailbox, in the dialog that appears, there is a 
pop-up menu that is for the location of the given mailbox.

With respect to mail not being placed where it's supposed to, that's either a 
problem with the initial setup of the rule or sometimes even with the way 
senders address there messages.  I've noticed that sometimes people have 
specific people in their To field and MacVisionaries in the cc and various 
other interesting combinations.  What I did for this is, in my rule, specified 
that the "To" c"Contains" "MacVisionaries" and that  the "cc" "Contains" 
"MacVisionaries".  So, in this case, you would want to match "Any" of the rules 
(as opposed to "All"), and by simply asking if either "contains" 
"MacVisionaries", it usually got around any of the differences in how others 
addressed their messages.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-08-03, at 5:17 PM, Harry Hogue  wrote:

> Hi, guys,
> 
> I have set a rule for the Mac Visionaries group, but it doesn't seem to work 
> the greatest.  I set the rule to have messages sent to 
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com be moved to the Mac Visionaries folder, and 
> it put that folder in my Google mail list for some reason.  The issue is that 
> I see some messages in the "Important" mailbox, some in the Mac Visionaries 
> group, but not all, I don't think, and then there's the "All Mail" mailbox 
> for Google.  Ideally, I would like to have all messages go to the Mac 
> Visionaries folder and have that folder just above my Gmail account.  I 
> really don't have any use for the "All Mail," "Important," the Google sent 
> items folder under Google Mail, etc.  It just seems like a lot of 
> duplication.  Any advice about how to get this sorted, including moving the 
> mailbox, would be very much appreciated.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Harry
> 
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Weird Mail Rules issue

2012-08-03 Thread Harry Hogue
Hi, guys,

I have set a rule for the Mac Visionaries group, but it doesn't seem to work 
the greatest.  I set the rule to have messages sent to 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com be moved to the Mac Visionaries folder, and it 
put that folder in my Google mail list for some reason.  The issue is that I 
see some messages in the "Important" mailbox, some in the Mac Visionaries 
group, but not all, I don't think, and then there's the "All Mail" mailbox for 
Google.  Ideally, I would like to have all messages go to the Mac Visionaries 
folder and have that folder just above my Gmail account.  I really don't have 
any use for the "All Mail," "Important," the Google sent items folder under 
Google Mail, etc.  It just seems like a lot of duplication.  Any advice about 
how to get this sorted, including moving the mailbox, would be very much 
appreciated.

Regards,

Harry

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