Re: Swap space: how is it allocated / released?
On Wed, 2008-01-02 at 01:58 -0800, ext Denis DeLaRoca wrote: > Hi, > > How's swap space allocated on the internal SD card on IT OS? I thought it > was by means of a separate partition but when mounting the SD card on > Destop linux system (via USB) only a single 'msdos' partition is shown. There's a swapfile called ".swap" on the card. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/disk$ ls -alh .swap -rwx-- 1 tigert root 128M 2007-10-25 08:51 .swap //T ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OS2008 Damn ugly!!!
On Thu, 2007-12-27 at 21:59 -0300, ext Alfredo J. Fabretti wrote: > Designers need constructive criticism, comments like the original post > only hurts their feelings. It's not that much about feelings really - we develop a pretty thick skin sooner than later :-) Anyhow, constructive criticism is of course useful. It's a lot more about practical thinking: resources are limited (even in a large corporation - time being one of the more scarce resources usually) and it makes sense to focus on certain scenarios and try to cover them well, rather than trying to do everything at once. Then you test it and see if it works, and if not, you repeat until it does, given the timeframe you have. It's not like we wear a beret and moustache and sip red wine* to come up with "The Design" and reveal it to the programmers from under a red velvet cloth in a ceremony.. But you probably knew that already ;) This results in a product that cannot please everyone, but hopefully does work for the target group. The challenge of course is to aim at the correct target in the first place, but this is getting way offtopic already ;^) Have a good 2008 everyone, and thanks for all the good feedback on the new OS release! :) //Tuomas (* I have nothing against moustaches, red wine or berets :) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: help!? my N810 seems dead(ish)
On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 09:54 +0200, Igor Stoppa wrote: > That's weird - N800 and 770 have practically the same chargin interface > - HW, SW and battery - and when doing idle chargin their current is > comparable. > > Unless the N800 sw recognises the fake charger and simply refuses to use > it :-) > > Does it show any message, like "Not Charging", when you plug in the fake > charger? Yeah, it said "not charging". It *could be* that I remember wrong. And of course I have thrown that one away already since I lost the converter cable from large to small plug, and the charger was cheaper than a new one :) - would have been useful to check the specs on the label. //T ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Disappearing Widgets.
On Mon, 2007-12-17 at 18:26 -0800, ext James Sparenberg wrote: > Nope right now just running the stock 0S2008 BAF themes (Big A** Font) > the 2007 ones wouldn't even install if I tried as dependencies don't > match. > > You just go along for hours ... and have to restart to switch > batteries for example or any other reason and suddenly sans widgets. > Visual only the function remains. Yeah, like Eero said, this sounds really strange. I have not seen this ever lately (and I have seen quite a few interesting effects while we were hacking on the theme config stuff when developing it) If the theme configuration file contains some errors, this will cause nasty breakage, but it would most likely require that you installed something that touched the theme files. You mean it just comes up with blank widgets after a reboot, or does it happen while it runs? I guess the only way to figure this out is to try to narrow down the cases when it happens..? The only idea I have right now is that you reflash the device, and note down *everything* you install and see if it happens again. //Tuomas ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: help!? my N810 seems dead(ish)
On Mon, 2007-12-17 at 20:56 -0800, ext Joshua Layne wrote: > they have had warranty issues on it. However, a brief search on google > shows some fly-by-night places that have it for really cheap (like a few > dollars), so I may just pick up a replacement and a spare for the office./; Beware that some of the cheap noname ones might have different voltages - one of my 12V car chargers for example does not charge my N800 at all. It charges 770's and phones just fine. //T ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OS2008: .bashrc or .bash_profile?
On Sun, 2007-12-16 at 15:44 +0200, ext Marius Gedminas wrote: > > curious. Does the IT do colors? > > You mean the terminal emulator? Yes, it does. It does many things, > including, e.g., vim's mouse support. Yep, it's using the "vte" terminal widget that is the same as gnome-terminal Irssi + screen via ssh to my home server work nicely and are my main use case of the terminal :-) //T ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Disappearing Widgets.
On Sun, 2007-12-16 at 12:43 -0800, ext James Sparenberg wrote: > OK, > >First, Yes I understand 2008 is a beta. So please don't anyone get > defensive. But I think I have a case somehow of application vs 2008 > and I'm trying to track it down. Can't file a bug until I can say "do > this and that happens" or at least say what is happening. > > I'm about to do a 3rd re-install this weekend. Each one is promted > by the same thing. After a restart (last on promted by a need to > change battery for a charged one while out) I loose all visible > widgets. No buttons (I've the text) no progress or scroll bars, > nothing. Now the functionality is still there. If I guess the > location of a scroll button it will scroll, Buttons though only > defined by the text that was on them still push. > > I seem to recall someone having this kind of event in the past and a > cure existing. Though for the life of me I can't remember what it > was. > > Any suggestions would be appreciated as this is #3 event in 3 days. > Though the "remember what was installed" feature of 2008 is working > well. What theme are you using? Did you install something theme-related? This sounds like you have a broken theme that messes things up.. Like, if you have os2007 themes, those *do not work* on OS2008 since there are changes, and things might likely get broken. Or something else is corrupting the files..? //Tuomas ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: DVD to tablet
On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 14:08 +, ext Andrew Flegg wrote: > > Btw, I had the audio become noise when encoding on linux/ppc (ubuntu) - > > I guess mencoder has some endian issue in some audio codecs? IIRC this > > was an older version of the script though - I'll try remember to have a > > look at this again once I am at home. > > There are now some instructions in the README in the tarball on how to > fix this issue. Please let me know if they don't work for you. Ok, cool! Will check, thanks a lot! :-) //T ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: DVD to tablet
On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 13:51 +, ext Andrew Flegg wrote: > On Dec 10, 2007 11:45 PM, Brian Litzinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 09:27:02PM +, Andrew Flegg wrote: > > > > > htttp://mediautils.garage.maemo.org/tablet-encode.html > > > > I had to comment out the line that starts > > > > #die "mplayer doesn't support lavc encoder\n" unless Btw, I had the audio become noise when encoding on linux/ppc (ubuntu) - I guess mencoder has some endian issue in some audio codecs? IIRC this was an older version of the script though - I'll try remember to have a look at this again once I am at home. //T ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: further beating on OS2008 beta
On Thu, 2007-11-29 at 13:54 -0800, ext James Sparenberg wrote: > > Because a lot of stuff works differently with the physical > > keyboard. And because I have no clue if the input method works > > differently on the N800 with N810 OS release shoehorned into it? > > :-) > > So now if I'm understanding you correct Nokia is saying pox on > the n800 user we are off on a different bend once again. No, I am just saying that as far as I know, there is no official, tested OS2008 released for N800 yet. I have not flashed the N810 image to a N800 so I don't know how well it works. > > Also, the source is in garage as osso-xterm, so go and tweak it to > > your liking if you wish. I think all this "new" UI stuff is in the > > "ui-rework"-branch. > > It doesn't build. The whole library structure is different from a -to > b and I'm not a C programmer. Hm. I managed to build it some months ago for os2008, though I am not even "a programmer" so I am not sure - probably someone else knows better whether this should work or not? //Tuomas ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: further beating on OS2008 beta
On Thu, 2007-11-29 at 01:49 -0800, ext James Sparenberg wrote: > Why did they remove the useful tabs and replace it with multiple > windows? Given that there is no WM in the traditional sense you > can't resize and move between them easily. Tabs afforded the ability > to quickly manage multiple term windows (my record on the IT is 10 > tabs.) Windows bring this to a grinding halt. Because the platform style is multiple windows. And tabs wasted quite a lot of *terminal window* space. Also if you have 10 tabs, you cannot see pretty much anything relevant from the tab titles. Sure your case of 10 tabs is a bit special too - maybe you could just use "screen" instead? Multiple windows is consistent with the rest of the platform. I also think it makes sense for the same reason the browser does not have tabs: Tabs work a lot better in a large desktop where you can drag windows around and group some of them together. Since everything is fullscreen, tabs would just duplicate the function of the window switcher. You probably won't have *that* many apps open at once in a tablet anyway compared to a desktop computer anyway. > Why did they move the "button" bar to the bottom. Down there is > steals valuable screen real-estate from you. It steals screen estate no matter where it is. The bottom-one is (again) consistent with the rest of the device, and it is easier to reach with fingers (remember the N810 has the keyboard so you hold it a bit differently in your hands!) You can also hide the whole toolbar if you want. > Why is it that they split the adjust background color and font color > into two different locations in the settings gui? This is in the "we'll laugh over this when we are old" -category. ;) > Why did they increase the steps to use the ctrl key in the button bar? > Before to do cntrl-c it was 2 clicks one on cntrl one on c ... now > it's 5. cntrl - text box - c - ok - screen during this time the > keyboard closes 2 or 3 times. This can make vi a real PITA too. Because a lot of stuff works differently with the physical keyboard. And because I have no clue if the input method works differently on the N800 with N810 OS release shoehorned into it? :-) > Perhaps I'm just using the IT differently from most, I don't view it > as sterility a muti-media toy. To me it's my #1 tool for doing my > job, so perhaps I'm a bit sensitive. Sorry if I sound ranty I don't > mean to be but I am wondering why so may drastic changes were made to > a really good app. The bottom line is: there is still the old one you can just rebuild for os2008 if it hasnt been built yet, and use that. We just made a version that could be shipped with the N810 for convenience. Also, the source is in garage as osso-xterm, so go and tweak it to your liking if you wish. I think all this "new" UI stuff is in the "ui-rework"-branch. //Tuomas ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: n800 user reviews
On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 17:29 -0700, ext DrFredC.com wrote: > after a reboot. I tried to locate the RSS files on my Nokia to see if > perhaps deleting something might clear things up, but couldn't find > where the RSS stuff is located. It's in /home/user/.osso_rss_feed_reader/feedlist.opml if I remember correctly. //T ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: need a community board?
On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 18:34 +, ext Steve Greenland wrote: > More seriously: if you think that email is primitive and the various > forum systems are superior, you simply haven't been introduced to the > right tools, tools that have been developed for years specifically to > handle large volumes of list mail. Or we can just face it: we're getting old and then new generation is enjoying different ways. :-) Boards serve some purposes pretty nicely I must admit. Namely the "to follow XYZ, go to site XYZ, no matter what device you have, as long as it has a browser". //T ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Brick after battery dying?
On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 14:39 +, ext Alan Williamson wrote: > 2. The device does not charge; i plug in the power supply and nothing! > i have to wiggle and *sometimes* it churps that the battery is charging That sounds like a broken charger plug. Try a different charger? //T ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 Power Problems
On Sun, 2007-08-26 at 12:44 +0100, ext Frederik Ferner wrote: > In my case, I cannot seen any obvious signs but most of the time I plug > the device into power it doesn't even start charging. I managed to start > charging it with a few attempts usually. Today I don't seem to have any > luck, best I got was that it started to charge but by the time I've put > it back on the table and looked again it seems to have stopped charging > again. Try with another charger, it could be a broken plug too..? I had one plug break internally I think, when I tripped over the cord once, sending the whole shebang flying around pretty nicely.. :-] The device was fine, and charges ok with another charger, but that one plug is not working reliably anymore. //Tuomas ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: problems with themes and the new release.
On Mon, 2007-07-09 at 09:32 -0400, ext Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: > From the various e-mail, it appears there are issues with this release > - think I'll hold off updating... For the themes, there are some changes from the previous version - If I remember correctly, the only change is the new "tab toolbar" of the media player. With the old Plankton the tabs just wont show it seems, due to missing bitmaps and it probably falls back to the default toolbar style. Other than that the theme should pretty much work. I will try to do an updated Plankton release during GUADEC conference next week, as unfortunately I am busy with other things right now. (yes, also it would be a good idea to put it in the repository one of these days of copious extra time.. :) //Tuomas ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
