Re[2]: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Newbie having set up problems
At 19:56 25/03/2003, ghhalley wrote: Thanks for the help, OK mailmanctl was not running. I started it up and got a confirmation message. It should have been running, as the the Mailman init.d files are already set to run. Is mailmanctl daemon always on? Should I see it with ps -e at all times? With MM 2.1.1 yes and yes. Running ps -e should also show a number of python processes; these are the qrunner subprocesses spawned by mailmanctl and described briefly below. With the earlier 2.0.x version the functions performed by mailmancntl were performed by the qrunner cron script. What is its purpose? I thought the Mailman wrapper was the major program -- is this just a traffic manager and logger? or does it do greater functions? What follows is just my take on how MM 2.1.1 operates but I am open to correction ... When the MTA delivers incoming mail to Mailman it is injected (typically) with minimal processing, into the incoming message queue by the script executed by the $exec-prefix/mail/mailman wrapper. The situation is a actually a bit more complicated because the script run depends on which list related mail alias the message is addressed to, but you get the picture. Doing minimal processing at incoming message delivery time avoids potential problems with mail delivery to MM being timed out by the delivering MTA. It means that incoming mail is less likely to be baulked out of delivery to MM during periods of high system load. The subsequent processing of messages is done using a pipeline of activities defined in $prefix/Mailman/Defaults.py (actually there can be different pipelines used dpending on what type of incoming message is being handled). In passing through the pipeline, messages may be removed from one queue and injected into another for further processing. mailmancntl spawns a series of subprocesses. Iteratively, each subprocess takes a message from a particular queue, processes it and, if necessary, injects it into the next queue. These subprocesses are what move the messages down the pipeline of actions until they passed to the outgoing MTA for delivery to subscribers. The bulk of Mailman's work is done by the subprocesses supervised by mailmanctl. George -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ghhalley wrote: Upgraded my RH 8 to Python 2.2.2 and Mailman 2.1.1 [...] Currently, I am receiving no email from Mailman. Emails going into Mailman are received. After my initial tests and 3 days of debugging, the Sendmail logs seemed normal and all of the QFiles had a backlog. So I thought, maybe a qfile was jamming the system. I moved the qfile files to temporarily directory. Then tried subscribing through the user website and my virgin qfile has 10 files in it (nothing in the other qfiles). I have not received any type of confirmation email and am not listed on the admin subscription page. Any ideas what is preventing the completion of Mailman? Is mailmanctl running? This is different than the way the qrunners worked in 2.0.x, where they ran from a cron job. They now are run via the mailmanctl daemon. Could it be a security or interface problem with Sendmail? I don't think so, usually if that's the case you see smrsh errors. Could it be a problem with the Mailman database or within the program? I guess that's possible. If mailmanctl is indeed started, look for clues in the mailman logs directory. - -- Todd OpenPGP - KeyID: 0xD654075A | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] bandwidth or traffic
Is it possible to check how much traffic or bandwidth a specific mailing-list is consuming ?? Does mailman saves such statistics? Met vriendelijke groet / Best regards, Pascal Dreissen -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Subscriber problems
Hi all I have a problem with some subscriber addresses. When the list admin subscribes a list of users to his list there is usually a bunch of email addresses that has syntax errors. eg: rene'[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] When doing a list_members on the list python bombs out. You can't remove these users with the remove_members script or via the http interface. Has anyone come across the same thing or have some ideas on how to remove the users? Thanks! Regards JvdW -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] overriding password
Hi, is there a way to set an over riding password for all the mail lists on my server so I have access to them regardless of the admin changing the password? running mailman 2.1.1 FreeBSD 4.7 thanks in advance. - Noah -- Net Enabled (http://www.enabled.com) -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] overriding password
At 14:44 26/03/2003, sleek wrote: Hi, is there a way to set an over riding password for all the mail lists on my server so I have access to them regardless of the admin changing the password? Yes. It is called the site password and you have probably already set it using $prefix/bin/mmsitepass. The site password should work in place of any list admin password. running mailman 2.1.1 FreeBSD 4.7 thanks in advance. - Noah -- Net Enabled (http://www.enabled.com) -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mass members download feature
Hi! I really like Mailman. Thank you guys. But there is a question: Why where is no Cgi-UI option for to allow an admin to download all list members as text file suitable for mass subscription? Or there IS such Web-interface option and I've just missed it? Best wishes Maxim Yakubenko -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Help Newbie trying to get working..
Hi all - I have been asked to setup a server for mailing out a daily newsletter to about 50k addresses. I have setup a redhat linux 8.0 server and have installed Apache and Mailman. I am somewhat familiar with configuring apache but I am not familiar with MailMan nor can I find any decent Newbie guides to get it up and running. 1. How do I get to the Web Interface? - Mailman is installed in /var/mailman - Is it all done through a Web interface or is there any application to run on the local server? If so how do I start the application up? 2. Can anyone point me to some decent newbie guides on how to make this work? 3. If you feel like it and it would be appreciated if anyone wants to outline the steps I need to take in order to get it working initially? 4. Does Mailman need a MYSQL DB to hold the lists addresses or does it have it's own DB that it stores that info in? If so How can import the current address I have into that DB? Thanks for your help. John Sullivan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help Newbie trying to get working..
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sullivan, John wrote: Hi all - I have been asked to setup a server for mailing out a daily newsletter to about 50k addresses. I have setup a redhat linux 8.0 server and have installed Apache and Mailman. I am somewhat familiar with configuring apache but I am not familiar with MailMan nor can I find any decent Newbie guides to get it up and running. I would recommend going through the INSTALL and appropriate README[1] files that are included in the mailman tarball. They cover the steps to get everything running quite well. One thing that's incorrect in the INSTALL file from 2.1.1 is the instruction to create the mailman site list. This needs to be done *before* you try to start the mailmanctl daemon. [1] See at least README and the README.MTA for your mail server, ie, README.POSTFIX or README.SENDMAIL, etc. - -- Todd OpenPGP - KeyID: 0xD654075A | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp America was born of revolt, flourished on dissent, became great through experimentation. -- Henry Steele Commager -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: When crypto is outlawed bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. iD8DBQE+gehMuv+09NZUB1oRAnztAKCkqnfwUMCielAggiygR8c8z0dWUwCeMIc3 CLCwhROLICBbPc3sP3Zw1ko= =TRAt -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Changing the sender Address
Hi, I have a new mailman installation and messages sent to the list are coming from [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm wondering if it is possible to change that so it is coming from [EMAIL PROTECTED] or something like that. People are finding the fact that it comes from an address with bounces in it a bit unnerving. Thanks! -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] virtual hosts - archive hostname troubles
okay I just want to make sure I am setting this up properly - I have virtual
hosts in place. Installed mailman 2.1.1 on FreeBSD 4.7 Stable machine.
I updated /home/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py with the following:
VIRTUAL_HOSTS = {'lists.host1.com':'host1.com',
'lists.host2.com':'host2.com',
'lists.host3.com':'host3.com'}
VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = 1
then I fixed the maillists. by the following command:
withlist -l -r fix_url testing -u lists.host1.com
I have a bit of trouble though. I can see it in the email header of processed
messages. the archive hostname for the list still remains as the default name
of the machine. how can I fix this?
- Noah
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[Mailman-Users] help
I am getting emails from subscribers wishing to be taken off of our serve list. Do I take them off or what? Also, new subcribers are wanting on the servelist. How do I put them on the list? I am totally new to this program and need a list of how-to-do's instructions. Could you please email this list of step by step instructions? Thank you! Jane Garner Program Manager School Improvement DWE 682-1535 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] mailing list...
uhhh. i recently purchased a webhosting package at Gisol they sent me to you regarding setting up a mailing list from what i've readthis is not a simple process... so in layman terms.where can i find the instructions i can understand? i have no experience with previous mailinglist formats i am a private business owner, my main objective is to send periodic updates regarding new products the names i have on my mailing list are for my company's eyes only.i need the security of this. thanks, M.G -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Deleting a mailing list and accessing private mailing list
Hi, I have 2 questions. 1. How can I remove a temporary mailing list that I have created. I do not see any option to delete/remove a mailing list. Am I suppose to run some command line option? I am currently running Mailman 2.0 on HP-UX 11.0 with sendmail. 2. How can I access a mailing list that someone has set to private? Thanks, Mimi Chen -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Password reset?
Hi, hosting a few mailinglists with mailman i have forgotten the password for one mailinglist. how can i reset a mailinglist admin password? using version 2.0.11-1woody5. thanks for your help! cheers, martin -- Dipl.-Kfm. Martin Rode Managing Director [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zeroscale GmbH Co. KG Fon +49-(0)30-42081604 Frankfurter Allee 73d Fax +49-(0)30-42081606 10247 Berlin, Germany Cell +49-(0)163-5321400 http://www.zeroscale.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] problem
we work with mailman 2.1 and everything works fine but after a kernel pach under linux we got an error message if i try to start mailman. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ../../mailman/bin/mailmanctl start Die Sperre des qrunner-Masterprozesses konnte nicht übernommen werden. Es sieht so aus, als ob dies eine ungültige Sperre ist. Rufen Sie das das Programm mailmanctl mit der -s Option nochmals auf. thanks for help Andreas -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mass Import
I must be missing something and I hope that this is the right place to ask this question. I would like to mass import a group of users into Mailman (version 2.11). I have a comma delimited file that contains 2 fields, email address field and name field. When I use the web interface to do the mass import the file is successfully uploaded. The problem is that it only takes the email address field, not the name field. Am I doing something wrong?? Thanks in advance for any assistance. don -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] mailing list hosting services
To Whom it may concern: Our company has been providing Mailman mailing list services for about 6 months now with great success. Would it be possible to be listed on the http://www.list.org/inthenews.html page as a hosting provider for Mailman? Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you for your attention to this. Kind Regards, Brian Carpenter Emerging Markets Web Design www.emwd.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] question regarding inserting a text header
I am looking to see if it possible to have Mailman automatically insert a text header for all generated emails. Thank you. Wayne R. Kidd Director of Operations AAIM 202 861-9351 http://www.im.org/aaim -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] List Admins Receiving error messages for persons not on their lists.
At the beginning of the month the password reminders are sent out, bogus e-mail addresses create error messages that are being sent to list admins that are not responsible for the list the bogus address is subscribed to. The below error message was generated, the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not a member of the chc mailing lists. Thanks for any ideas. Mary Received: from Matrix.uaa.alaska.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by matrix.uaa.alaska.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF33D45A7C for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 05:03:27 -0900 (AKST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-No-Archive: yes X-Ack: no Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: lists.uaa.alaska.edu mailing list memberships reminder Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 05:03:27 -0900 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Deleting a mailing list and accessing privatemailing list
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. How can I remove a temporary mailing list that I have created. I do not see any option to delete/remove a mailing list. Am I suppose to run some command line option? Yes. Use the rmlist command found in ~mailman/bin. 2. How can I access a mailing list that someone has set to private? If you're the site administrator, use the site password to get into the web admin interface. - -- Todd OpenPGP - KeyID: 0xD654075A | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp No army can withstand the strength of an idea whose time has come. -- Victor Hugo (1802-1805) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: When crypto is outlawed bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. iD8DBQE+gfUXuv+09NZUB1oRAqLrAKDkSvckhBeJNnrD2NeZCgDR5AK0vQCdFXAF 3qhul/D0ez9YkzpHJtp4iD4= =yBZo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mailman for Delivery of 10,000
I have a client with an optin list of about 10,000 subscribers. Is mailman a good program for delivery of this amount of mail .in terms of efficiency, server load, etc. I've seen several desktop solutions that connect to a pop account and send out the e-mails in threads (or groups of 10 to 15 automatically) this is supposed to be more efficient and use less server resources. Is that true? I guess I'm just curious if mailman is a good solution for this client or if anybody has some experience with similar size lists. Thanks. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing the sender Address
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 12:23:52 -0600, Tony Kuntz wrote Hi, I have a new mailman installation and messages sent to the list are coming from [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm wondering if it is possible to change that so it is coming from [EMAIL PROTECTED] or something like that. People are finding the fact that it comes from an address with bounces in it a bit unnerving. Hi, Some of my users agree here. I have actually received mail regarding this very issue too. - Noah Thanks! -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/sleek%40enabled.com -- Net Enabled (http://www.enabled.com) -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailing list...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 M.G wrote: i recently purchased a webhosting package at Gisol they sent me to you regarding setting up a mailing list That's quality tech support. :) from what i've readthis is not a simple process... so in layman terms.where can i find the instructions i can understand? It depends on what your web host has done for you already. If they expect you to install mailman yourself, then you'll need to be familiar with compiling programs, and configuring apache and a mailserver (I always recommend Postfix, but some crazy people still use Sendmail :). If they've already installed mailman for you, then it will depend on what version they've installed (2.0.13 or 2.1.1). I tried to peek at they're site to see if they mention which version they have installed but didn't see it. 2.0 didn't have any way to create new lists via the web interface, it had to be done on the command line, though many web hosts setup a web front-end to do this. But that's something that only your web host can (and should) tell you how to use. 2.1.1 has a way to create lists via the web interface. Just visit a URL like: http://your-host/mailman/create and fill out the form. In either case, you can also do this from the command line (assuming you have that kind of access to the server). Use the newlist command, found in ~mailman/bin. i am a private business owner, my main objective is to send periodic updates regarding new products Once you get mailman installed you'll want to look at the sections of the FAQ that detail the creation of an announcement list. the names i have on my mailing list are for my company's eyes only.i need the security of this. The names should be as secure as the server they're housed on. If it's mission critical data, you might not want to trust it to a shared host. - -- Todd OpenPGP - KeyID: 0xD654075A | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp He who will not reason is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; and he who dares not is a slave. -- Sir William Drummond, Academical Questions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: When crypto is outlawed bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. iD8DBQE+gfq/uv+09NZUB1oRAgViAJ9oIUkHgosILAJOzrC1LsDkRbpTlgCZAVcz zegPg8F4R0VoFRYfvcG6tCE= =PUY9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing the sender Address
At 18:23 26/03/2003, Tony Kuntz wrote: Hi, I have a new mailman installation and messages sent to the list are coming from [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm wondering if it is possible to change that so it is coming from [EMAIL PROTECTED] or something like that. People are finding the fact that it comes from an address with bounces in it a bit unnerving. Thanks! If you are prepared to hack enough source code it is possible to change it but there is no easy way. But in any event the From header of the messages doesn't contain the listname-bounces alias. I suspect that the most concerned users are those using MS Outlook because of its strange habits (see http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq02.003.htp for more info). -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mass Import
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 dmann wrote: I must be missing something and I hope that this is the right place to ask this question. I would like to mass import a group of users into Mailman (version 2.11). I have a comma delimited file that contains 2 fields, email address field and name field. When I use the web interface to do the mass import the file is successfully uploaded. The problem is that it only takes the email address field, not the name field. Am I doing something wrong?? I think mailman expects addresses in the file to be in the format: Full Name [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Full Name) and one address per line, like the mass subscribe text box. But I'm not an expert so I could be mistaken. - -- Todd OpenPGP - KeyID: 0xD654075A | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp Whenever 'A' attempts by law to impose his moral standards upon 'B', 'A' is most likely a scoundrel. -- H. L. Mencken -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: When crypto is outlawed bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. iD8DBQE+gfpsuv+09NZUB1oRAk8eAJ9rXLb52nk7fmeyu4dJ32nSJAAzCgCfXm3c f1DijsIZ7vIeZH7zPoqaY8M= =UPwL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Securing
On Tuesday 25 March 2003 03:50 am, Sharksforum wrote: How do we secure mailman so that only a certain IP can post to the list? Depending upon which version you are using, look for Sender filter options. Irwin -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
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I've just set up a list for my website subscribers. Never done anything like this before. I got mailman through my webhost with cpanel. In the General Options category, first setting says I can make case changes only to the public list name. My list name is Damjamfans. I want it to be DamJamFans or maybe damjamfans. I've tried changing it but always get an error message: real_name attribute not changed! It must differ from the list's name by case only. According to this post from Todd in the archives, it could be cpanel: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg16259.html Anyone have any ideas about this? -- http://www.operamail.com Get OperaMail Premium today - USD 29.99/year Powered by Outblaze -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] help
* Jane Garner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I am getting emails from subscribers wishing to be taken off of our serve list. Do I take them off or what? Also, new subcribers are wanting on the servelist. How do I put them on the list? I am totally new to this program and need a list of how-to-do's instructions. Could you please email this list of step by step instructions? Thank you! You didn't really tell us anything about your installation, like which mailman version. The best place to start would be the documentation that comes with the program. The README, FAQ and README.* files wern't written just to take up space. They really are helpful. You can either unsubscribe the users by going to the web admin interface then the Member Management portion, and removing them from that page. Or you can teach them how to unsubscribe themselves (Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a little bit, but teach him how to fish, and he'll eat forever ok maybe I'm butcherin the saying, but you know what I'm talking about..). They can unsubscribe a number of different way, many of which are documented in the documentation. Then there's another good place to go and that's the FAQ. http://www.list.org/faq.html http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py -- Matthew Davis http://dogpound.vnet.net/ Never eat anything bigger than your head. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] Help Newbie trying to get working..
Thanks for your info George.. A few more questions. 1. I installed the MailMan package during the Red Hat Server installation. It look like it installed MAILMAN in /var/mailman/ It seems to have done a few of the steps for me - create a mailman user and Mailman group. It moved some of the jpgs into my apache install - The apache installed a little different then I am use to and being a newbie it has confused the hell out of me. In /var I have a www folder - and in /etc/ I have what looks like all of the configuration files. I am assuming I need to edit the httpd.conf as I don't think the redhat install took it that far. What should my httpd.conf file look like considering the information above as to where my installs are. 2. Also not sure if this a related issue but http server gui that comes with RedHat freezes up on me everytime I try to edit the properties - any ideas? Thanks for your help.. john -Original Message- From: George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 1:12 PM To: Sullivan, John Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Help Newbie trying to get working.. John, I just set up Mailman on RH 8 -- not an expert, but I can help. One important consideration you need to make up front. The latest, stable Mailman release is 2.1.1 which requires Python 2.2.2, both not in the RH 8 release. 2.1.1 has enough changes in it that I decided to make the update. Here are the keys to complete the installation. 1) Download the new releases and install them. I think Mailman had a RPM available and Python was a GZip .tar. Installation was straightforward for both. 2) The mailman install directory had excellent READMEs. Look at README, INSTALL, README.LINUX, and README.SENDMAIL Print out the INSTALL one and use it as your template. a) Conifguring Apache is easy. Just move the file Httpd-Mailman.conf from the /etc/httpd/conf directory into the /etc/httpd/conf.d directory. Any .conf files in this directory are included in the apache configuration. Edit the files correspondingly. b) We didn't have to make any configuration changes with Sendmail, but you will have to set up a boatload of aliases. When you run Newlist process it will tell you what aliases to include. c) Watch you directory permission settings and what groups your applications run as. The docs will send you in the right direction, if you need more help, ask back on this board. In my case, Sendmail ran as the mail user/group and Apache ran as the apache user/group. In the configuration I set the --with-mail-gid and the --with-cgi-gid d) The most lacking part of the READMEs is the value of the mailmanctl script. The readme's still reference cron jobs. I set them up, but with 2.1.1 the majority of the cron work is done by mailmanctl, a continually running daemon and its python sub-processes. In my case, my qfiles were backing up and I was getting no responses from Mailman. This was fixed when I ran the mailmanctl script. See the recent emails titled Mailman Newbie having set up problems f) Finally, you may want to set up Mailman to run at boot up. I don't remember if RH already had a script in init.d or if it came in the install. But I did have to add this into the boot sequence. If this isn't good enough, keep writing the list, and we will try to help you with individual parts. Peace, George Halley -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Trouble with case changes on public list name
Sorry, forgot to tell you the subject before. - Original Message - From: Jim Beach [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 05:22:54 +0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mailman-Users] I've just set up a list for my website subscribers. Never done anything like this before. I got mailman through my webhost with cpanel. In the General Options category, first setting says I can make case changes only to the public list name. My list name is Damjamfans. I want it to be DamJamFans or maybe damjamfans. I've tried changing it but always get an error message: real_name attribute not changed! It must differ from the list's name by case only. According to this post from Todd in the archives, it could be cpanel: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg16259.html Anyone have any ideas about this? -- http://www.operamail.com Get OperaMail Premium today - USD 29.99/year Powered by Outblaze -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/landruler%40operamail.com -- http://www.operamail.com Get OperaMail Premium today - USD 29.99/year Powered by Outblaze -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Trouble with case changes on public list name
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Beach wrote: I've just set up a list for my website subscribers. Never done anything like this before. I got mailman through my webhost with cpanel. [...] I've tried changing it but always get an error message: real_name attribute not changed! It must differ from the list's name by case only. I had posted question about this to the cpanel support forum on March 10th and got 0 responses. :( See here: http://forums.cpanel.net/showthread.php?threadid=7718s=2a9e590ac8335fcafa2530c3884136a0s=c2621f0f4552d9f8ee78ee458d1db538 I keep meaning to email them directly and ask where I can get any patches they apply to mailman. Under the GPL, they must provide them. At this point, I don't know what they do so I can't say if they indeed patch mailman to get this (broken) behavior and I (fortunately) don't have many lists hosted on cpanel/mailman sites so it's not been a high priority for me. But it is pretty annoying. You can edit the HTML templates, replacing 'MM-List-Name' with the listname in the case you want it in. This achieves part of what you want, but it's not really a fix. - -- Todd OpenPGP - KeyID: 0xD654075A | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp An idea is not responsible for the people who believe in it. -- Anonymous -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: When crypto is outlawed bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. iD8DBQE+giYQuv+09NZUB1oRAsJFAJsE8nKR5u6GuLkCnHZ58KaiA6EzPQCfepw3 ny8XDB6OvuRt8bUKLGNg6V0= =UxoQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help Newbie trying to get working..
John, I just set up Mailman on RH 8 -- not an expert, but I can help. One important consideration you need to make up front. The latest, stable Mailman release is 2.1.1 which requires Python 2.2.2, both not in the RH 8 release. 2.1.1 has enough changes in it that I decided to make the update. Here are the keys to complete the installation. 1) Download the new releases and install them. I think Mailman had a RPM available and Python was a GZip .tar. Installation was straightforward for both. 2) The mailman install directory had excellent READMEs. Look at README, INSTALL, README.LINUX, and README.SENDMAIL Print out the INSTALL one and use it as your template. a) Conifguring Apache is easy. Just move the file Httpd-Mailman.conf from the /etc/httpd/conf directory into the /etc/httpd/conf.d directory. Any .conf files in this directory are included in the apache configuration. Edit the files correspondingly. b) We didn't have to make any configuration changes with Sendmail, but you will have to set up a boatload of aliases. When you run Newlist process it will tell you what aliases to include. c) Watch you directory permission settings and what groups your applications run as. The docs will send you in the right direction, if you need more help, ask back on this board. In my case, Sendmail ran as the mail user/group and Apache ran as the apache user/group. In the configuration I set the --with-mail-gid and the --with-cgi-gid d) The most lacking part of the READMEs is the value of the mailmanctl script. The readme's still reference cron jobs. I set them up, but with 2.1.1 the majority of the cron work is done by mailmanctl, a continually running daemon and its python sub-processes. In my case, my qfiles were backing up and I was getting no responses from Mailman. This was fixed when I ran the mailmanctl script. See the recent emails titled Mailman Newbie having set up problems f) Finally, you may want to set up Mailman to run at boot up. I don't remember if RH already had a script in init.d or if it came in the install. But I did have to add this into the boot sequence. If this isn't good enough, keep writing the list, and we will try to help you with individual parts. Peace, George Halley -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help Newbie trying to get working..
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ghhalley wrote: I just set up Mailman on RH 8 -- not an expert, but I can help. One important consideration you need to make up front. The latest, stable Mailman release is 2.1.1 which requires Python 2.2.2, both not in the RH 8 release. Just a quick addition, RH 8 does include python 2.2.2. It's in the python2 rpm. I've used this with Mailman 2.1.1 with no noticeable problems. So that will save a little bit of time compiling and installing. You just have to give the --with-python option to mailman and specify /usr/bin/python2. - -- Todd OpenPGP - KeyID: 0xD654075A | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp There are three ways to get something done: do it yourself, hire someone, or forbid your kids to do it. -- Monta Crane -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: When crypto is outlawed bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. iD8DBQE+gioguv+09NZUB1oRAhoAAJ9geJ+EfjhYQM6BZdLxJzJOSFC8bgCg/tEw Y06/ZtMMYpHiNceVFOs7r3Q= =Fo5n -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: Re[2]: [Mailman-Users] Help Newbie trying to get working..
Thanks.. I am actually brand new... never even touched anything Linux before. I come from a Networking Background (mostly MS, Cisco and firewalls) and in the past I have had to setup network configs to work with Sun Servers running apache sometimes dibbling in the Sun's config files. But that is pretty much the extent of it. So I appreciate your help, it's comforting to know that there are people out there willing to lend a hand to a needy network guy. OK. So my big problem that took me all day was the silly little move of the mailman config file to the conf.d directory - thanks.. Now I can access the pages over the network and feel like I'm making some headway. 1. Is the administration done entirely through the Web Admin? How do access and configure MailMan options? 2. How do I change the @localhost.localdomain convention to specify the domain I want? 3.I do not want anyone to send email to this box - I just want it to be able to send out daily newsletters. I want the reply address to be a user on my Exchange Server --my corp mail server-- who can receive replies in his Outlook Inbox. 4. That being the case (#3) do I need to setup external DNS with MX records for this server? Thanks for your help... -Original Message- From: ghhalley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 5:45 PM To: Sullivan, John Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re[2]: [Mailman-Users] Help Newbie trying to get working.. John, Comments are in-line with your questions. BTW How Newbie are you with Linux? Its hard to tell from your EMails -- Sounds like you are brand new to RH8, but do you have experience with other releases? I will modify my explanations depending on your knowledge. For example, I've played around on RH 6.2 box for two years as a part time job. Thanks for your info George.. A few more questions. 1. I installed the MailMan package during the Red Hat Server installation. It look like it installed MAILMAN in /var/mailman/ Good -- That is what I did, too. It seems to have done a few of the steps for me - create a mailman user and Mailman group. Good -- and you should have a mail user and group for Sendmail and a Apache user and group for Apace. All three users are needed for Mailman to run properly. Three users are run to increase the system security. It moved some of the jpgs into my apache install - I never had to do that. Evidentially, they were already there. (I hate having to move simple icons -- so I skipped it!) The apache installed a little different then I am use to and being a newbie it has confused the hell out of me. Have you configured Apache before? If not, there are a bunch of questions to resolve about how you do your webserver. We may be able to do those questions over the phone. If you have configured Apace before, I was also surprised by Apache 2. I had time to learn it though as I was migrating the websites from my RH 6.2 box. Overall, the configuration files are simpler. The RH 8 install placed all of the Mailman config files in the file /etc/httpd/conf/httpd-mailman.conf file. All you have to do for the setup, is move this file into /etc/httpd/conf.d/ directory. Oops, I did uncomment the one line which is suggested in the file. In /var I have a www folder - and in /etc/ I have what looks like all of the configuration files. Correct. I didn't dwell into the /var/www folder, but it is where you can find the apache documentation and where RH expects you to put CGIs and websites. I am assuming I need to edit the httpd.conf as I don't think the redhat install took it that far. The RH install provides the default configuration. Works pretty well, but typically gets modified as you build web sites. What should my httpd.conf file look like considering the information above as to where my installs are. This is non-mailman specific. So let's take it off the list and talk about this. 2. Also not sure if this a related issue but http server gui that comes with RedHat freezes up on me everytime I try to edit the properties - any ideas? Are you configuring from a desktop GUI? I don't have experience with this. Questions like this are more appropriate for the Red Hat 8 mailing list. I am also a member of this. The mailing address for this list is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I signed up for it somewhere on the Red Hat website. Thanks for your help.. Keep passing questions, I'll answer as I am available. For once, I can help someone!! Yeah! john -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Re[2]: [Mailman-Users] Help Newbie trying to get working..
Ooh one other thing - 1. How can I test that Mailman is working with sendmail correctly? Thanks all -Original Message- From: ghhalley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 5:45 PM To: Sullivan, John Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re[2]: [Mailman-Users] Help Newbie trying to get working.. John, Comments are in-line with your questions. BTW How Newbie are you with Linux? Its hard to tell from your EMails -- Sounds like you are brand new to RH8, but do you have experience with other releases? I will modify my explanations depending on your knowledge. For example, I've played around on RH 6.2 box for two years as a part time job. Thanks for your info George.. A few more questions. 1. I installed the MailMan package during the Red Hat Server installation. It look like it installed MAILMAN in /var/mailman/ Good -- That is what I did, too. It seems to have done a few of the steps for me - create a mailman user and Mailman group. Good -- and you should have a mail user and group for Sendmail and a Apache user and group for Apace. All three users are needed for Mailman to run properly. Three users are run to increase the system security. It moved some of the jpgs into my apache install - I never had to do that. Evidentially, they were already there. (I hate having to move simple icons -- so I skipped it!) The apache installed a little different then I am use to and being a newbie it has confused the hell out of me. Have you configured Apache before? If not, there are a bunch of questions to resolve about how you do your webserver. We may be able to do those questions over the phone. If you have configured Apace before, I was also surprised by Apache 2. I had time to learn it though as I was migrating the websites from my RH 6.2 box. Overall, the configuration files are simpler. The RH 8 install placed all of the Mailman config files in the file /etc/httpd/conf/httpd-mailman.conf file. All you have to do for the setup, is move this file into /etc/httpd/conf.d/ directory. Oops, I did uncomment the one line which is suggested in the file. In /var I have a www folder - and in /etc/ I have what looks like all of the configuration files. Correct. I didn't dwell into the /var/www folder, but it is where you can find the apache documentation and where RH expects you to put CGIs and websites. I am assuming I need to edit the httpd.conf as I don't think the redhat install took it that far. The RH install provides the default configuration. Works pretty well, but typically gets modified as you build web sites. What should my httpd.conf file look like considering the information above as to where my installs are. This is non-mailman specific. So let's take it off the list and talk about this. 2. Also not sure if this a related issue but http server gui that comes with RedHat freezes up on me everytime I try to edit the properties - any ideas? Are you configuring from a desktop GUI? I don't have experience with this. Questions like this are more appropriate for the Red Hat 8 mailing list. I am also a member of this. The mailing address for this list is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I signed up for it somewhere on the Red Hat website. Thanks for your help.. Keep passing questions, I'll answer as I am available. For once, I can help someone!! Yeah! john -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re[4]: [Mailman-Users] Help Newbie trying to get working..
Thanks.. I am actually brand new... never even touched anything Linux before. I come from a Networking Background (mostly MS, Cisco and firewalls) and in the past I have had to setup network configs to work with Sun Servers running apache sometimes dibbling in the Sun's config files. But that is pretty much the extent of it. So I appreciate your help, it's comforting to know that there are people out there willing to lend a hand to a needy network guy. Ahhh, That make sense. You'll be surprised by how easy the really bad problems are to fix in Linux. OK. So my big problem that took me all day was the silly little move of the mailman config file to the conf.d directory - thanks.. Now I can access the pages over the network and feel like I'm making some headway. 1. Is the administration done entirely through the Web Admin? How do access and configure MailMan options? You can do it both ways, except for the changes in the alias files. Those you will need to hand poke. I suggest the program emacs, if you don't have a favorite way to do this. The changes are really pretty simple -- its a text file, with three pieces. # Comment lines and then the email address and its relay, typically in the form George: [EMAIL PROTECTED] which would send all email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to my email account. This gets a little stickier if you are using multiple domains and we will not get into this in this email. After hand poking the changes, you will need to type newaliases on the command line. You will get a statement back showing the db has been updated. And then you need to restart sendmail by services sendmail restart This will cause the changes to be received. 2. How do I change the @localhost.localdomain convention to specify the domain I want? This is a little trickier question. I'm guessing you might need to do some more network configuration for the box. Did you set a local name in the /etc/sysconfig/network file? If not, you need to set this up. If I remember right, there is good documentation in the RH 8 Reference Guide. Red Hat has pdf and html versions of it on their website. When I started learning Red Hat, I used those guides alot. They are not exhaustive by any means, but they will get you going. Then the man or info commands and the readme's have almost everything else. 3.I do not want anyone to send email to this box - I just want it to be able to send out daily newsletters. I want the reply address to be a user on my Exchange Server --my corp mail server-- who can receive replies in his Outlook Inbox. This brings up a major question of configuration. Typically Mailman uses confirmation emails for new subscriptions. You will have to go through the configuration files and turn off this capability. Mailman by default is not set up as a Newsletter list, but rather as a Discussion list. There are default settings, you will want to change for it to work this way. My primary purpose is also as a Newsletter list. FAQ 3.11 describes the basic changes you need to make. I'm in the process of implementing it. 4. That being the case (#3) do I need to setup external DNS with MX records for this server? not sure. I use DNS to direct traffic to my website and to route emails to the server. If you completely turn off in-coming emails and you can get around the web traffic necessary, you can probably turn off DNS. But, I'm not an authority in this area. You might want to try a separate post with different heading to this list and the RH 8 list. Thanks for your help... And on the second email... Ooh one other thing - 1. How can I test that Mailman is working with sendmail correctly? You can check Sendmail, by making a change in the alias file to send to you and then trying it. Otherwise, you can set up your first list and send to it. Or if you think everything is working, but don't get a response, check FAQ 3.14 Thanks all -Original Message- From: ghhalley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 5:45 PM To: Sullivan, John Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re[2]: [Mailman-Users] Help Newbie trying to get working.. John, Comments are in-line with your questions. BTW How Newbie are you with Linux? Its hard to tell from your EMails -- Sounds like you are brand new to RH8, but do you have experience with other releases? I will modify my explanations depending on your knowledge. For example, I've played around on RH 6.2 box for two years as a part time job. Thanks for your info George.. A few more questions. 1. I installed the MailMan package during the Red Hat Server installation. It look like it installed MAILMAN in /var/mailman/ Good -- That is what I did, too. It seems to have done a few of the steps for me - create a mailman user and Mailman group. Good -- and you should have a mail user and group for Sendmail and a Apache user and group for Apace. All three users are needed for Mailman to
[Mailman-Users] Disabling Passwords
I am using Mailman V 2.0 I want to know how I can disable the need for a new subscriber to create password. I think the subscribers are going to find it quite annoying that they have to create a password for our newsletter. They should just have subscribe and unsubscribe options... Your Comments are appreciated... john -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Re: Disabling Passwords
At 07:28 PM 3/26/2003, you wrote: I am using Mailman V 2.0 I want to know how I can disable the need for a new subscriber to create password. I think the subscribers are going to find it quite annoying that they have to create a password for our newsletter. They should just have subscribe and unsubscribe options... I use v2.1.1, and have a lot of lists set up as Newsletter style, and none of the users are given passwords. Since I don't allow archiving of the newsletters, and they don't want/need to go to the web page to change their settings, they are subscribed and unsubscribed without notices being sent to the members. Larry Your Comments are appreciated... john -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] RE: Disabling Passwords
Is that a manual process? Do they send the unsubscribe to you and then you take them off the list or is that a scripted feature of 2.1 that is not available in 2.0. If it is not manual how did you go about configuring it.. Thanks for your help.. John -Original Message- From: Larry Hansford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:06 PM To: Sullivan, John Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Disabling Passwords At 07:28 PM 3/26/2003, you wrote: I am using Mailman V 2.0 I want to know how I can disable the need for a new subscriber to create password. I think the subscribers are going to find it quite annoying that they have to create a password for our newsletter. They should just have subscribe and unsubscribe options... I use v2.1.1, and have a lot of lists set up as Newsletter style, and none of the users are given passwords. Since I don't allow archiving of the newsletters, and they don't want/need to go to the web page to change their settings, they are subscribed and unsubscribed without notices being sent to the members. Larry Your Comments are appreciated... john -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Disabling Passwords
Howdy Larry, How did you make the changes for this. Is it in the Admin configuration panels? (I don't remember it there) Peace, George Halley --- 5:05:46 PM, you wrote: At 07:28 PM 3/26/2003, you wrote: I am using Mailman V 2.0 I want to know how I can disable the need for a new subscriber to create password. I think the subscribers are going to find it quite annoying that they have to create a password for our newsletter. They should just have subscribe and unsubscribe options... I use v2.1.1, and have a lot of lists set up as Newsletter style, and none of the users are given passwords. Since I don't allow archiving of the newsletters, and they don't want/need to go to the web page to change their settings, they are subscribed and unsubscribed without notices being sent to the members. Larry Your Comments are appreciated... john -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/ghhalley%40earthlink.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] RE: Disabling Passwords
I'm not sure how he set it up, but you could just set up a 'subscription form' or whatever that your users fill in that hooks into a cgi script that just sends off an email to the appropriate mailman subscribe address. If you subscribe an address via email with mailman, it will just make up a random password for the user. If your users don't need to use it ever, they'll never know the difference. Dallas On Wednesday, March 26, 2003, at 05:00 pm, Sullivan, John wrote: Is that a manual process? Do they send the unsubscribe to you and then you take them off the list or is that a scripted feature of 2.1 that is not available in 2.0. If it is not manual how did you go about configuring it.. Thanks for your help.. John -Original Message- From: Larry Hansford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:06 PM To: Sullivan, John Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Disabling Passwords At 07:28 PM 3/26/2003, you wrote: I am using Mailman V 2.0 I want to know how I can disable the need for a new subscriber to create password. I think the subscribers are going to find it quite annoying that they have to create a password for our newsletter. They should just have subscribe and unsubscribe options... I use v2.1.1, and have a lot of lists set up as Newsletter style, and none of the users are given passwords. Since I don't allow archiving of the newsletters, and they don't want/need to go to the web page to change their settings, they are subscribed and unsubscribed without notices being sent to the members. Larry Your Comments are appreciated... john -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/ dallas%40dreamhost.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] RE: Disabling Passwords
At 08:23 PM 3/26/2003, Dallas Bethune wrote: I'm not sure how he set it up, but you could just set up a 'subscription form' or whatever that your users fill in that hooks into a cgi script that just sends off an email to the appropriate mailman subscribe address. If you subscribe an address via email with mailman, it will just make up a random password for the user. If your users don't need to use it ever, they'll never know the difference. Dallas That's basically it. I disabled: Sending Welcome Message Sending Goodbye Message Sending password reminders Digests Archives I removed the footer with the web link I set all list members as Moderated, except the ones allowed to post to the list I set all moderated members or non-members to reject with a message of the address to send mail to I set an Explicit Reply-To address I set subscriptions to require approval, but not unsubscriptions Initial setup is done with mass subscriptions. Large lists are broken down into multiple text files with 1,000 names or less per list, and then mass subscriptions done multiple times. Subsequent subscriptions are done either via the List Owner adding them, or via e-mail subscribe. the same with unsubscribes. I think that is basically the setup. Larry On Wednesday, March 26, 2003, at 05:00 pm, Sullivan, John wrote: Is that a manual process? Do they send the unsubscribe to you and then you take them off the list or is that a scripted feature of 2.1 that is not available in 2.0. If it is not manual how did you go about configuring it.. Thanks for your help.. John -Original Message- From: Larry Hansford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:06 PM To: Sullivan, John Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Disabling Passwords At 07:28 PM 3/26/2003, you wrote: I am using Mailman V 2.0 I want to know how I can disable the need for a new subscriber to create password. I think the subscribers are going to find it quite annoying that they have to create a password for our newsletter. They should just have subscribe and unsubscribe options... I use v2.1.1, and have a lot of lists set up as Newsletter style, and none of the users are given passwords. Since I don't allow archiving of the newsletters, and they don't want/need to go to the web page to change their settings, they are subscribed and unsubscribed without notices being sent to the members. Larry Your Comments are appreciated... john -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/ dallas%40dreamhost.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Thank you all.
(Please reply privately for the sanity of the other lists, if you feel a reply is needed; or at least trim out the lists you're not a member of) I just wanted to drop a line to all the developers of the programs I setup recently for our mailserver, and thank you all. Sometimes the people who work hard to bring the good programs to us don't get the recognition they deserve (especially when reading lists like these where you usually only hear of the problems people have). Everything's working very well, was painless to install, heck even the users here like it. So again, thanks for all your work. It is not unappreciated : -- Steve Huston - Unix Systems Admin, Dept. of Astrophysical Sciences Princeton University | ICBM Address: 40.346525 -74.651285 126 Peyton Hall |On my ship, the Rocinante, wheeling through Princeton, NJ 08544 | the galaxies; headed for the heart of Cygnus, (609) 258-7375 | headlong into mystery. -Rush, 'Cygnus X-1' -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
