Re: [Mailman-Users] ERROR in 2.1.5

2013-11-01 Thread David Josephson

On 10/31/13 6:01 PM, Janice Boothe wrote:

When I try to log into the admin page for my list (recently upgraded to 
MM2.1.5) I get the following...


Bug in Mailman version 2.1.15
We're sorry, we hit a bug!
Please inform the webmaster for this site


I got this error once in an upgrade, it was a file permissions issue. 
Did you run check_perms?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1.15 cPanel issue

2013-11-01 Thread Malcolm Austen
Thanks Mark and Brian for your responses on this. My cPanel hosts have now  
corrected the permissions on the files and all is sweetness and light  
again :-)


= Malcolm.

On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 19:37:18 -, Malcolm Austen  
malcolm.aus...@weald.org.uk wrote:


Yes, I know you can't support cPanel installations but you may have some  
ideas that will be useful when I finally resort to sending in a support  
request that may get nothing better than a 'delete  recreate' response  
:-(


I think my cPanel provider has just upgraded to MM 2.1.15 and I have  
found that I have a problem ...


I had changed the list-info and user-options pages and now, not only do  
those pages result in 'Bug in Mailman version 2.1.15' displays, so do my  
attempts to edit them through the admin interface.


I have noticed that a cPanel backup logs 4 sets (I have 4 lists) of  
permission failures for my lists suggesting that the pages I have  
changed no longer have the right permissions.


I seem not to have file level access to the mailman hierarchy, so I  
guess I need advice as to what permissions I need to ask them to  
manually set on which files or folders. I'd like to make my request  
specific enough to avoid having the lists reset and the archives and/or  
membership lists discarded.


Thanks for any advice, Malcolm.




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[Mailman-Users] issue with QMailToaster Mailman implementation

2013-11-01 Thread Fabian Santiago

Hello all,

I've integrated Mailman with my QMT using the wiki instructions provided 
online by the qmail toaster folks.


It all seems to function well except for one thing; when I send email to 
'mailman-ow...@lists.photoblogverona.com', I receive back a failure 
notice stating:


Hi. This is the qmail-send program at mail.photoblogverona.com.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following 
addresses.

This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

postmas...@lists.photoblogverona.com:
This message is looping: it already has my Delivered-To line. (#5.4.6)

Where should I be looking or what to look at? Thanks. My actual email 
domain is photoblogverona.com. the lists sub domain was setup as part of 
the mailman integration. Could this have something to do with it?


I've also emailed the people involved with QMT but figured I would also 
ask here as well. thanks for your help in advance.


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[Mailman-Users] Upgrade Mailman 2.1.13 to 2.1.16

2013-11-01 Thread Martin Hugo
Hi All,

We are running Mailman 2.1.13 (on Ubuntu) and have been for some time.  
Recently the SPAM bots have been hitting our subscription addresses so hard the 
bounces have tripped the filters at Microsoft and blocked a couple of lists 
addresses until I get them to unblock them.  It looks like an upgrade to 2.1.16 
might go some way to mitigate this.

Unfortunately, Mailman has been running so well for so long, I have forgotten 
most of what I did to install it in the first place :(

Can anyone point me at a good tutorial on how to upgrade from 2.1.13 to 2.1.16?

Thanks very much.

Marty
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[Mailman-Users] Question on Upgrading

2013-11-01 Thread Sascha Rissel
Hello there,

recently I rented my first own vServer to have my own Mailman running.
The server runs Debian and Plesk panel.
Plesk offered an easy installation of mailman 2.1.13. After some further
manual configuration, the system is running fine. :-)

Now I'd like to upgrade to latest Mailman 2.1.16.

Is there any help reliable help on how to build and install the upgrade?
I found: http://www.linux-sxs.org/internet_serving/mailman.html, but I am
not sure, where this suits my needs...

Do you have any hints for me?

Thanks in advance,
Sascha.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] issue with QMailToaster Mailman implementation

2013-11-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 10/31/2013 10:23 AM, Fabian Santiago wrote:
 
 It all seems to function well except for one thing; when I send email to
 'mailman-ow...@lists.photoblogverona.com', I receive back a failure
 notice stating:
 
 Hi. This is the qmail-send program at mail.photoblogverona.com.
 I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
 addresses.
 This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
 
 postmas...@lists.photoblogverona.com:
 This message is looping: it already has my Delivered-To line. (#5.4.6)


It appears that the list's 'owner' address is
postmas...@lists.photoblogverona.com. Can you successfully mail
directly to that address or to whatever address is listed as the list's
owner (note that this should be a fully qualified address, e.g.
'postmas...@photoblogverona.com', not just 'postmaster')? If not, this
is not a Mailman issue at all.

If you can mail directly to that address, then the issue may be the way
mail is delivered to -owner. The MTA will first deliver the mail by
piping it to Mailman's mail wrapper for the list -owner. This will
probably result in a

Delivered-To: mailman-ow...@lists.photoblogverona.com

being header added then Mailman will resend the mail to the actual
'owner' address. It is possible, but not likely that qmail is confused
by the already added Delivered-To: header. If so, this looks like a
qmail bug.


 I've also emailed the people involved with QMT but figured I would also
 ask here as well. thanks for your help in advance.


They are more likely to be able to help as this is probably a qmail issue.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrade Mailman 2.1.13 to 2.1.16

2013-11-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/01/2013 07:27 AM, Martin Hugo wrote:
 
 Can anyone point me at a good tutorial on how to upgrade from 2.1.13 to 
 2.1.16?


If you still have the original directory in which you unpacked Mailman
2.1.13, look in the config.log file for the Invocation command line.

Download and unpack 2.1.16 into a new directory.
Configure using the same command as before.
Stop mailman.
As root, run 'make install'.
Start mailman.

If you don't have the original configure command, you'll have to figure
out what options you used. First look in your installed
Mailman/Defaults.py. If PREFIX is other than '/usr/local/mailman', set
it with --prefix=. If VAR-PREFIX is other than the PREFIX value, set it
with --var-prefix=.

Likewise, use --with-mailhost= and --with-urlhost= to set
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST and DEFAULT_URL_HOST.

See http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node7.html for more info on
configure options.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Question on Upgrading

2013-11-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/01/2013 07:45 AM, Sascha Rissel wrote:

 The server runs Debian and Plesk panel.
 Plesk offered an easy installation of mailman 2.1.13. After some further
 manual configuration, the system is running fine. :-)
 
 Now I'd like to upgrade to latest Mailman 2.1.16.
 
 Is there any help reliable help on how to build and install the upgrade?


See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/tIA9, in particular It is
possible to trick Plesk into recognizing newer versions installed
manually but it's not for the faint of heart.

Installing Mailman from source is fairly straightforward and well
documented at http://www.list.org/mailman-install/index.html, but
making it work with Plesk may be tricky.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrade Mailman 2.1.13 to 2.1.16

2013-11-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/01/2013 01:32 PM, Martin Hugo wrote:
 Mark,
 
 Thanks very much.  Was able to update with no errors reported during the 
 process.  However, when I now go to the listinfo page I get the Bug in 
 Mailman version 2.1.16 page.  Also messages to lists are being returned 
 undeliverable.

What's in Mailman's error log? What's in the MTA logs regarding the
undeliverable messages?

If there are permissions issues, run Mailman's bin/check_perms.

If there are group mismatch errors, see http://wiki.list.org/x/tYA9.

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