Re: [MlMt] 3 (little?) setup errors
On 6 May 2016, at 14:03, Mike Petonic wrote: Hi All -- I'm getting little errors when I run MailMate from iTerm. I'm wondering if there are quick fixes or if I have something elementary wrong with my setup. Worst case, would I have to blow away my ~/Library/Application Support/MailMail library and start creating my customizations from new? I'd hate to do that, but I'll do it if I can. I have the following errors that appear on my terminal when I run MailMate: Warning: Failed to run premailer. Warning: Failed to run premailer /var/folders/8x/dzmmfpk11953yj78093pv878gn/T/mailmate_command.j1Gbh7: line 2: premailer: command not found Warning: Failed to run premailer. Warning: Failed to run premailer /var/folders/8x/dzmmfpk11953yj78093pv878gn/T/mailmate_command.XVVSuY: line 2: premailer: command not found Warning: Failed to run premailer. It looks like Benny has put a dependency on the Ruby 'premailer' tool into his OakMIME Framework but neglected to package a working copy in the MailMate application bundle... Also, when I receive calendar events from my colleagues using Outlook on Windows, I get the following: Warning: Unable to handle alternative in multipart of MIME type: 'text/calendar' Welcome to the wonderful world of the iCalendar/vCalendar standard(ish) and it's fantastical interoperability (not "fantastic" meaning "great" but rather "a pure fantasy") Assuming that desktop Outlook sends the same thing Office365 Outlook sends (when configured to send as iCalendar instead of a web link) that warning is because Outlook sends a mulipart/alternative message with 3 alternative (i.e. logically equivalent) parts in 3 different formats: text/plain, text/html, and text/calendar. MM doesn't know how to present a text/calendar part (aka iCalendar, .ics file, etc.) except as an attachment, so if you use the "View->Message Body Parts" to show the text/calendar you just see an attachment named "Attachment.ics" and no text. As far as I know (and I manage multiple multi-tenant mail systems) no other mailer in existence sends event invites/updates like that, however it does make a certain logical sense, unlike most of the ways Microsoft has sent events around in the past. All MM would have to do to handle text/calendar as an alternative part is to extract and display the DESCRIPTION field and offer an Attachment.ics attachment as it already does (at least in my very limited testing.) If you're seeing a .ics attachment, you're not really losing anything by MM not "handling" the alternative. And finally, I'm not able to use the GAL from Windows in MailMate. I can see the GAL (Global Address List) in my Contacts.app and I can search for names from there, but I can't use it in the "Address Lookup" button at the top of a compose window. That's odd. I don't use that feature in MM but it appears that anything Contacts considers a "Directory" (LDAP or Exchange) works in Contacts but not in the Address Panel. I can see my LDAP and Office365 directories under "All Directories" but they just don't work. So it's not just you... ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Error message
MailMate encountered the following error: “Server response: “N5 NO [NONEXISTENT] Unknown folder. (Failure) [THROTTLED]”. Command attempted: “N5 DELETE "Philosophy: People/Professional/OLD"”.”. Mailbox: “Philosophy: People/Professional/OLD”. I’m trying to move a misplaced folder to a better location. It’s mostly done but the old one won’t delete. The above is the error message. Howie ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Delay sending mails
From notes I made from the list... ## Delayed Send As you probably know, MailMate has a “Send Later” feature. The plan is to allow this to have a default value essentially providing you with an “undo send”. For now, you can use this hidden preferences: Turn it on defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmSendMessageDelayEnabled -bool YES set the delay defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmSendMessageDelay -integer 180 The value is seconds (3 minutes in this case). When a message is selected in the Drafts folder then you can cancel it using “Message ▸ Cancel Send and Edit” (⌥⇧⌘D). The shortcut is the usual send shortcut with an additional ⌥. The usual send shortcut is bound to “Send Now” (⇧⌘D). In the composer window you can override the “Send Later” value by holding down ⌥ as well. On 6 May 2016, at 15:15, Esteban Umerez Argaia wrote: Hi there, Is there a way to delay every mail I send for, say, 10 seconds? I’m thinking about trying to prevent sending unwanted emails, by having a few seconds in case I accidentally hit Send, or I regret sending them, etc. I’m not talking about the ‘Send Later’ feature, which I use every day to schedule some mails. I’m talking about a default ‘delay’ setting for the rest of messages that get sent right away and I might want to stop. I’ve tried to look for the solution in the documentation but I don’t seem to be able to find it. Thanks in advance, best regards Esteban Umerez ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Delay sending mails
Hi there, Is there a way to delay every mail I send for, say, 10 seconds? I’m thinking about trying to prevent sending unwanted emails, by having a few seconds in case I accidentally hit Send, or I regret sending them, etc. I’m not talking about the ‘Send Later’ feature, which I use every day to schedule some mails. I’m talking about a default ‘delay’ setting for the rest of messages that get sent right away and I might want to stop. I’ve tried to look for the solution in the documentation but I don’t seem to be able to find it. Thanks in advance, best regards Esteban Umerez ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] 3 (little?) setup errors
Hi All -- I'm getting little errors when I run MailMate from iTerm. I'm wondering if there are quick fixes or if I have something elementary wrong with my setup. Worst case, would I have to blow away my ~/Library/Application Support/MailMail library and start creating my customizations from new? I'd hate to do that, but I'll do it if I can. I have the following errors that appear on my terminal when I run MailMate: Warning: Failed to run premailer. Warning: Failed to run premailer /var/folders/8x/dzmmfpk11953yj78093pv878gn/T/mailmate_command.j1Gbh7: line 2: premailer: command not found Warning: Failed to run premailer. Warning: Failed to run premailer /var/folders/8x/dzmmfpk11953yj78093pv878gn/T/mailmate_command.XVVSuY: line 2: premailer: command not found Warning: Failed to run premailer. Also, when I receive calendar events from my colleagues using Outlook on Windows, I get the following: Warning: Unable to handle alternative in multipart of MIME type: 'text/calendar' And finally, I'm not able to use the GAL from Windows in MailMate. I can see the GAL (Global Address List) in my Contacts.app and I can search for names from there, but I can't use it in the "Address Lookup" button at the top of a compose window. Any quick tips? Thanks, -Mike___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Mailmate hangs on error, instead of proceeding with othe accounts
Is there a workaround? I suspect you can hardcode the account to use port 993. Yup, File->Edit IMAP Account lets you specify the port, I’ll give that a try. Thanks! ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Mailmate hangs on error, instead of proceeding with othe accounts
On 6 May 2016, at 16:52, William P. N. Smith wrote: Every once in a while MailMate gets confused about one of my accounts and throws the attached error: Or something similar. And then my other accounts, and my junk mail filtering, and everything else comes to a screeching halt until I hit “Retry”. Bug, feature, misconfiguration? Depending on your view point then it could probably be labelled any of those options. Is there a workaround? I suspect you can hardcode the account to use port 993. By default, MailMate tries both port 143 and port 993 if no explicit port is provided. MailMate then remembers the most recently (successfully) used port. This is probably port 993, but maybe this some times fails for reasons not related to the port number and then MailMate retries with port 143. This is when you see the error message. The reason port 143 fails is likely that the port does not support STARTTLS which is how connections on this port are encrypted. I don't know why the server is configured like that, but one could argue that MailMate should handle it more gracefully. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Mailmate hangs on error, instead of proceeding with othe accounts
Every once in a while MailMate gets confused about one of my accounts and throws the attached error: Or something similar. And then my other accounts, and my junk mail filtering, and everything else comes to a screeching halt until I hit “Retry”. Bug, feature, misconfiguration? Is there a workaround? Thanks! ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Cannot delete 4000 messages. Instead, they get moved, and become un-deletable.
On 6 May 2016, at 4:49, Roger Bohn wrote: 1. I had about 4200 messages in Deleted Messages folder. Question: Do these ever get deleted automatically? Apparently not. No. 5. Looking into the STUFF folder, I have 4000 red messages, plus 900 messages that were there earlier today. *Attempting to delete these messages does nothing - they remain in STUFF, and they remain red.* What am I doing wrong? How do I get MailMate to delete messages from the server, and from my Mac? It sounds like one or more of your mailboxes are not online. Check under SOURCES in the mailbox list that no mailboxes are greyed out. If a message is displayed completely in red in the message list then it means that it's pending to be deleted on the server. Usually this would be synchronized very quickly and the message would disappear. Either the related mailbox is not online or this synchronization somehow fails. The reason it seems something was moved back is probably that the original move (to Deleted Messages) was never synchronized. When deleting it the second time then MailMate skips the move and tries to delete the message in its original mailbox. This indicates that “Deleted Messages” (and maybe the other folder too) is not online. I hope this helps. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] placement of signature
On 6 May 2016, at 4:24, Howard Wettstein wrote: I’m having trouble with signatures. For one thing, I’d prefer a default of no signature, but I’m not sure how to set that. Second, I want the signature right after the body of my message and before the earlier messages. Ditto about how to set that. The latter is a setting in the Signatures preferences pane. You should also click “Reset Usage History” in the same pane to make sure MailMate does not remember a different habit (they signature system is dynamic). You can also look into the hidden preference [`MmDynamicSignatureMethod`](https://manual.mailmate-app.com/hidden_preferences#composing), but I don't think it can do exactly what you want. I'm afraid there is no option to completely disable adding a signature, but I'll keep this limitation in mind. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Cannot delete 4000 messages. Instead, they get moved, and become un-deletable.
On 6 May 2016, at 11:49, Roger Bohn wrote: 2. I selected 4000 of them, and hit the “delete” key on my Mac. In the past, this has purged messages from the Deleted Messages folder, and from the server. 3. The messages did not disappear from the DM folder. Instead, they changed color to red, *and were moved back to their original folder!* Call that folder STUFF. So now I have approx 4000 messages in the STUFF folder from which they had been deleted, days or weeks ago. I have about 200 messages in the DM folder. The official canonical location of your mail is the IMAP server, not your Macintosh. When you "delete" messages, you are simply instructing MailMate to issue deletion requests to be sent to the IMAP server to remove them from the Deleted Messages folder and get back to IMAP when that is done. Depending on your internet connection, your IMAP providers throttling, how many messages can fit in one instruction, and your Macintosh, a huge batched request can literally take days to finish. I moved all my mail from Gmail to another provider via MailMate, and it took a very long time for that to finish. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
