Re: [mailop] spam from onmicrosoft.com?

[Michael Wise via mailop]

There certainly would be PushBack from some...

But it also serves as the beginnings of an interesting conversation.

Aloha,
Michael.
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Michael J Wise
Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis
"Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed."
Got the Junk Mail Reporting 
Tool ?



-Original Message-
From: mailop  On Behalf Of Michael Rathbun via mailop
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 1:30 PM
To: mailop 
Subject: Re: [mailop] spam from onmicrosoft.com?



On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 12:40:45 -0500, Al Iverson via mailop 
mailto:mailop@mailop.org>>

wrote:



>Is there any point in reporting that B2B spam? And if so, where?



If you are an onmicrosoft customer with, say, 100 seats, you simply contact 
your account rep.  It works better if you have at least 500 seats, tho.



THe net.effect, back in my day, would be that we would write rules to catch the 
miscreant and prevent delivery to your employees' inboxes.  An accidental side 
effect of this would be that the miscreant's outgoing spam would be caught by 
the same rules, and eventually their service would enter into a bit of a 
decline.



mdr

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  -- Paul Vixie





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Re: [mailop] spam from onmicrosoft.com?

[Michael Rathbun via mailop]

On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 12:40:45 -0500, Al Iverson via mailop 
wrote:

>Is there any point in reporting that B2B spam? And if so, where?

If you are an onmicrosoft customer with, say, 100 seats, you simply contact
your account rep.  It works better if you have at least 500 seats, tho.

THe net.effect, back in my day, would be that we would write rules to catch
the miscreant and prevent delivery to your employees' inboxes.  An accidental
side effect of this would be that the miscreant's outgoing spam would be
caught by the same rules, and eventually their service would enter into a bit
of a decline.

mdr
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   "There will be more spam."
  -- Paul Vixie


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Re: [mailop] Strange Microsoft email server message

[Michael Wise via mailop]

ISTR that the IP in question had a similar issue 
I'll go find someone to poke, thanks!

... it has stopped now, yes?

Aloha,
Michael.
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Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis
"Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed."
Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ?

-Original Message-
From: mailop  On Behalf Of Frank Bulk via mailop
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 8:23 AM
To: mailop@mailop.org
Subject: [mailop] Strange Microsoft email server message

We're seeing the following on just a few pending messages, all between 8:07 and 
8:13 am U.S. Central Time:

Site hotmail.com (104.47.8.33) said after data sent: 451 4.3.2 System not 
accepting network messages - IOException(SetupMessageStream) 
[AM5EUR03HT053.eop-EUR03.prod.protection.outlook.com]
[AM5EUR03FT009.eop-EUR03.prod.protection.outlook.com]
Site hotmail.com (104.47.8.33) said after data sent: 451 4.3.2 System not 
accepting network messages - IOException(SetupMessageStream) 
[AM5EUR03HT137.eop-EUR03.prod.protection.outlook.com]
[AM5EUR03FT003.eop-EUR03.prod.protection.outlook.com]

Anyone else seeing the same?

Frank 


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Re: [mailop] spam from onmicrosoft.com?

[Steve Atkins via mailop]

> On Jul 23, 2019, at 6:40 PM, Al Iverson via mailop  wrote:
> 
> The latest trend in B2B spam (at least in my inbox) seems to be from
> companies spamming me via their Microsoft hosted email, usually with a
> DKIM signature of something.onmicrosoft.com and from a Microsoft IP
> address.
> 
> Is there any point in reporting that B2B spam? And if so, where?

I've not seen any action, not even the sender suppressing the particular 
recipient,
taken in response to individual reports of B2B spam originating in Microsoft 
network
space, but not from @hotmail.com or @outlook.com addresses, via any reporting
channel I've found over the past few years.

I wouldn't say there's no point, but it's probably not the most constructive
use of your time.

Cheers,
  Steve
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[mailop] spam from onmicrosoft.com?

[Al Iverson via mailop]

The latest trend in B2B spam (at least in my inbox) seems to be from
companies spamming me via their Microsoft hosted email, usually with a
DKIM signature of something.onmicrosoft.com and from a Microsoft IP
address.

Is there any point in reporting that B2B spam? And if so, where?

TIA,
Al Iverson

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http://www.aliverson.com
http://www.spamresource.com

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[mailop] How to contact 'Silverpop' Abuse Desk?

[Benoit Panizzon via mailop]

Dear List

Silverpop is an email marketing platform accredited by CSA, therefore
whitelisted with some email platform operators.

They add such a header in emails via their plattform:

X-CSA-Complaints: whitelist-complai...@eco.de

Well one silverpop customer keeps sending spam to one of our support
email addresses. I am pretty sure that sender has not proof of opt-in
and has probably web-harvested the recipient email address.

So I requested information about the source of our support email
address to the privacy contact address of the sender company. They play
silly games by keeping closing those cases unanswered. So I escalated to
eco.de who in turn tell me they forwarded the complaint to 'Silverpop'.
But again, nothing happens.

The sender IP used by silverpop belongs to a /16 from IBM. It looks
like IBM acquired silverpop:

https://www.ibm.com/digital-marketing/silverpop

On that page, the 'privacy' contact are generic contacts @ IBM.
Same about the ARIN Abuse Handle for the sending IP Address.

So I guess this is never being forwarded to the appropriate team
running 'silverpop'.

So is there anyone who could share a contact @ silverpop or who knows
how to report an abusive customer of them?

Mit freundlichen Grüssen

-Benoît Panizzon-
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