Re: [libreoffice-marketing] IT Certification

2011-10-16 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


I know a kid locally that is working on getting ready for as many 
certifications as he can BEFORE he goes off to college.  His main system 
is Linux of some type and like LO and OOo a lot, according to his mother 
a used book store owner.


He may be interested in getting a Certification in LO, when it becomes 
available.  He helps his teacher out now and he hopes to have as many 
college credits from high school going into his first sememster of 
college as others get after their second or third semester only from 
college.  The kid is smart.  He is about to take the A1 or something 
that costs $300+ to take.


On 10/16/2011 05:25 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Fantastic!  Good to see.  I wish i had noticed this earlier as we just had a 
question about Certification.  I think someone is working on a large project in 
Venezuela and someone else on another large project in Sri Lanka.

Are there plans for Certification in LibreOffice that is global rather than 
'only' at national in a few countries?  I thought the Paris Conference was 
going to announce something?
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Thu, 13/10/11, Eliane Domingos de Sousa  wrote:


From: Eliane Domingos de Sousa
Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] Espirito Livre Magazine - issue 30 released
To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 13 October, 2011, 1:54
Dear all,

I would like to announce the release of Espirito Livre
Magazine issue 30. The theme this month is: IT
Certification.

In this Magazine there are pages dedicated to LibreOffice
and one of them is specially about the first anniversary.

Download: http://goo.gl/5Emqs

Kind regards
-- Eliane Domingos de Sousa
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twitter: eliane_domingos
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] What about Real-time collaborative editing (RTCE) in LibreOffice? A simple user POW proposal

2011-10-16 Thread timofonic timofonic
Hello.

It's just an idea I want to promote, because I think it can be more
interesting than some people think. Anyone can foorward the idea I
expressed to anyone that can help to make it reality, I just want to
become reality as an user of Libreoffice and other text editors. OASIS
seems a good candidate for this, even other office suites or advanced
text editors.

The point of RTCE is not just for office applications, but any text
editor targeted at not just very simple functionality. So this can be
a wide standard in terms of possible adoption, and maybe even add
interoperability with online projects like EtherPad.

Regards.


On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Tom Davies  wrote:
> Hi :)
> I think it might be good to forward this to OASIS.  THey already have 
> collaboration between various projects to produce OpenDocument Format 
> specifications.  I think that is part of what is being called for here?  A 
> specification that can be shared by the various existing OpenSource office 
> applications?
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
> --- On Fri, 14/10/11, timofonic timofonic  wrote:
>
>> From: timofonic timofonic 
>> Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] What about Real-time collaborative editing 
>> (RTCE) in LibreOffice? A simple user POW proposal
>> To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
>> Date: Friday, 14 October, 2011, 16:04
>> Hello to everyone.
>>
>> I'm just an user of LibreOffice, no developer at all. But I
>> think
>> maybe this can be an interesting discussion with the more
>> skilled
>> people involved into the project.
>>
>> Since the apparition of SubEthaEdit for Macs, the
>> real-time
>> collaborative editing (from now on referred as RTCE)
>> started to rise
>> from these days. The Web 2.0 phonomenom made RTCE even more
>> known with
>> Writely and EtherPad, then Google bought both (but EhterPad
>> now
>> remains as a FOSS project) to integrate resources to the
>> Google Docs
>> online Office suite.
>>
>> There are editors that already support RTCE, like AbiWord
>> (by using
>> AbiCollab extension), ACE, Emacs (by extensions like Rudel
>> or others)
>> and Gobby. Unfortunately there aren't a strong open
>> standard protocol
>> shared among them, so interoperability is a big issue
>> there.
>>
>> RTCE is something thinked before in OpenOffice and seems
>> also taken in
>> account in LibreOffice as future ideas to develop, but the
>> approach
>> and ideas behind it were primitive or their importance is
>> still not
>> enough considered.
>>
>> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crazy_Ideas#Simple_server-based_collaborative_editing
>>
>> There's an open RTCE protocol named Infinote ( http://infinote.org ),
>> a redesign of the Obby protocol that is part of Gobby and
>> implemented
>> in libinfinity. There's a server implementation named
>> Infinoted and
>> the protocol is already user by some third party
>> applications but the
>> popularity is quite low at this moment.
>>
>> There's "jarn.xmpp.collaboration"
>> (http://pypi.python.org/pypi/jarn.xmpp.collaboration), a
>> XMPP protocol
>> extension targeted at RTCE. The protocol is still quite
>> young, but
>> still actively developed.
>>
>> The use of an open protocol standard would not just help
>> interoperability between different projects, but also
>> improve the
>> protocol for being more flexible and powerful over time in
>> the same
>> way of ODF.
>>
>> While interoperability with existing projects is very cool
>> and nice,
>> this isn't going to resolve the issue in the long term.
>> Those projects
>> will stay incompatible between them, and each new project
>> may choose a
>> new protocol that LibreOffice developers would need to
>> implement it.
>>
>> I understand an initiative like this isn't easy at all,
>> because it's
>> not only developing a powerful and well documented RTCE
>> protocol. Like
>> in the example of Infinote, that means nothing if the
>> protocol isn't
>> adopted and promoted widely by other related projects.
>>
>> This is a proposal from the user point of view, but I hope
>> to make
>> some people think about it. In my opinion this could be a
>> "killer app"
>> for LibreOffice and also gain popularity in
>> education/business/government environments too.
>>
>> I'm supossing this concept would require developer efforts,
>> lots of
>> PR, contacting with other organizations and such. Make
>> people agree on
>> standards seems not easy, but I think is possible if people
>> do the
>> necessary effort (as showed in ODF).
>>
>> With a bit of research from my illiterate perspective, I
>> already found
>> other theorical and practical proposals and experiments on
>> RTCE. So I
>> think more skilled people can investigate further on the
>> tecnical side
>> of this if there's enough interest on it.
>>
>> Please think about this proposal and give your opinions.
>>  I hope my
>> thinking can be at least a bit useful to the community to
>> start an
>> interesting discussion about the topic.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> PS: I think th

[libreoffice-marketing] IT Certification

2011-10-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Fantastic!  Good to see.  I wish i had noticed this earlier as we just had a 
question about Certification.  I think someone is working on a large project in 
Venezuela and someone else on another large project in Sri Lanka.  

Are there plans for Certification in LibreOffice that is global rather than 
'only' at national in a few countries?  I thought the Paris Conference was 
going to announce something?
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Thu, 13/10/11, Eliane Domingos de Sousa  wrote:

> From: Eliane Domingos de Sousa 
> Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] Espirito Livre Magazine - issue 30 released
> To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Thursday, 13 October, 2011, 1:54
> Dear all,
> 
> I would like to announce the release of Espirito Livre
> Magazine issue 30. The theme this month is: IT
> Certification.
> 
> In this Magazine there are pages dedicated to LibreOffice
> and one of them is specially about the first anniversary.
> 
> Download: http://goo.gl/5Emqs
> 
> Kind regards
> -- Eliane Domingos de Sousa
> gtalk/skype: elianedomingos
> twitter: eliane_domingos
> identica/facebook: elianedomingos
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Italo's announcement re: LibO online and link

2011-10-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
The original link doesn't work for me Ubuntu 10.04 (or 10.10) Vlc, Totem.  The 
YouTube is great tho.  Great stuff, good to see :)
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Fri, 14/10/11, C. Olofson  wrote:

> From: C. Olofson 
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Italo's announcement re: LibO online and 
> link
> To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Friday, 14 October, 2011, 15:41
> The linky works for me (ubuntu &
> vlc) but, for redistribution, it looks like Florian has the
> answer:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVR7HqDokmA
> 
> Excellent developments!
> 
> -Craig
> 
> On 10/14/2011 07:36 AM, Marc Paré wrote:
> > Italo just announced the coming of LibO online (on the
> "announce mailing list), but, he also added a link. I just
> wanted to ask some of you to check the link. Could people
> check if the link works for you? Here is the link.
> > 
> > http://people.gnome.org/~michael/data/2011-10-10-lool-demo.webm
> > 
> > I am running it through VLC. We should make sure that
> people can see the video without any problems.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Marc
> > 
> > 
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] What about Real-time collaborative editing (RTCE) in LibreOffice? A simple user POW proposal

2011-10-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I think it might be good to forward this to OASIS.  THey already have 
collaboration between various projects to produce OpenDocument Format 
specifications.  I think that is part of what is being called for here?  A 
specification that can be shared by the various existing OpenSource office 
applications?
Regards from
Tom :)



--- On Fri, 14/10/11, timofonic timofonic  wrote:

> From: timofonic timofonic 
> Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] What about Real-time collaborative editing 
> (RTCE) in LibreOffice? A simple user POW proposal
> To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Friday, 14 October, 2011, 16:04
> Hello to everyone.
> 
> I'm just an user of LibreOffice, no developer at all. But I
> think
> maybe this can be an interesting discussion with the more
> skilled
> people involved into the project.
> 
> Since the apparition of SubEthaEdit for Macs, the
> real-time
> collaborative editing (from now on referred as RTCE)
> started to rise
> from these days. The Web 2.0 phonomenom made RTCE even more
> known with
> Writely and EtherPad, then Google bought both (but EhterPad
> now
> remains as a FOSS project) to integrate resources to the
> Google Docs
> online Office suite.
> 
> There are editors that already support RTCE, like AbiWord
> (by using
> AbiCollab extension), ACE, Emacs (by extensions like Rudel
> or others)
> and Gobby. Unfortunately there aren't a strong open
> standard protocol
> shared among them, so interoperability is a big issue
> there.
> 
> RTCE is something thinked before in OpenOffice and seems
> also taken in
> account in LibreOffice as future ideas to develop, but the
> approach
> and ideas behind it were primitive or their importance is
> still not
> enough considered.
> 
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crazy_Ideas#Simple_server-based_collaborative_editing
> 
> There's an open RTCE protocol named Infinote ( http://infinote.org ),
> a redesign of the Obby protocol that is part of Gobby and
> implemented
> in libinfinity. There's a server implementation named
> Infinoted and
> the protocol is already user by some third party
> applications but the
> popularity is quite low at this moment.
> 
> There's "jarn.xmpp.collaboration"
> (http://pypi.python.org/pypi/jarn.xmpp.collaboration), a
> XMPP protocol
> extension targeted at RTCE. The protocol is still quite
> young, but
> still actively developed.
> 
> The use of an open protocol standard would not just help
> interoperability between different projects, but also
> improve the
> protocol for being more flexible and powerful over time in
> the same
> way of ODF.
> 
> While interoperability with existing projects is very cool
> and nice,
> this isn't going to resolve the issue in the long term.
> Those projects
> will stay incompatible between them, and each new project
> may choose a
> new protocol that LibreOffice developers would need to
> implement it.
> 
> I understand an initiative like this isn't easy at all,
> because it's
> not only developing a powerful and well documented RTCE
> protocol. Like
> in the example of Infinote, that means nothing if the
> protocol isn't
> adopted and promoted widely by other related projects.
> 
> This is a proposal from the user point of view, but I hope
> to make
> some people think about it. In my opinion this could be a
> "killer app"
> for LibreOffice and also gain popularity in
> education/business/government environments too.
> 
> I'm supossing this concept would require developer efforts,
> lots of
> PR, contacting with other organizations and such. Make
> people agree on
> standards seems not easy, but I think is possible if people
> do the
> necessary effort (as showed in ODF).
> 
> With a bit of research from my illiterate perspective, I
> already found
> other theorical and practical proposals and experiments on
> RTCE. So I
> think more skilled people can investigate further on the
> tecnical side
> of this if there's enough interest on it.
> 
> Please think about this proposal and give your opinions.
>  I hope my
> thinking can be at least a bit useful to the community to
> start an
> interesting discussion about the topic.
> 
> Regards.
> 
> PS: I think this can be even more interesting to
> investigate from now
> on since the appearing of the LibreOffice Online project.
> 
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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Italo's announcement re: LibO online and link

2011-10-16 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-10-16 04:00, Italo Vignoli a écrit :

On 10/14/11 4:36 PM, Marc Paré wrote:

Italo just announced the coming of LibO online (on the "announce mailing
list), but, he also added a link. I just wanted to ask some of you to
check the link. Could people check if the link works for you? Here is
the link.


Please refer to my announcements as TDF announcements. Being the media
contact, I am always speaking on behalf of TDF, unless clearly stated.
Thanks, Italo



Thanks for the reminder.

Marc


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Italo's announcement re: LibO online and link

2011-10-16 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 10/14/11 4:36 PM, Marc Paré wrote:
> Italo just announced the coming of LibO online (on the "announce mailing
> list), but, he also added a link. I just wanted to ask some of you to
> check the link. Could people check if the link works for you? Here is
> the link.

Please refer to my announcements as TDF announcements. Being the media
contact, I am always speaking on behalf of TDF, unless clearly stated.
Thanks, Italo

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