Re: New design Live Gnome
Hello Tom, I am really thankful for your contribution for live_gnome. In the mean time, I also did one mockup that looks like this [1]. It seems that both, mine and yours have similar ideas, with some things altered. We will try to incorporate both of them into one amazing mockup and site. Thanks again, Elena [1] https://www.dropbox.com/s/dhpskxsxujzwqk3/wikilayoutnew2.png On 07/18/2012 04:01 AM, Tom Tryfonidis wrote: Hello Elena, I found this repo here [1] and I created a mockup based on this [2]. Here is how it looks like http://i.imgur.com/6w9d3.png and here is the svg file [3] Tom [1] http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnomeweb-src/tree/mockups [2] http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnomeweb-src/plain/mockups/mockup-wiki.png [3] https://www.dropbox.com/s/1hu5uqtga8hh7tf/mockup-wiki.svg -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: New design Live Gnome
Hello Christy, Unfortunately, I did not receive the mockup. I saw it now, and it is really fine for me if I am constructing this one; still , it is a choice we all need to agree on. On the other side, I would really like to include a little bit more elements if possible. The website should be practical as I understood, so maybe one more block of elements will be appropriate. We may discuss on the #marketing channel, whenever you have time. Thanks, Elena On 06/10/2012 03:37 AM, Christy Eller wrote: Elena- Did you get the quick mockup that Andreas did yesterday? He and I discussed the layout and navigation yesterday on IRC. We want to keep it very simple. http://andreasn.myownb3.com/temp/wikilayout.png or an svg here, which would be editable in inkscape: http://andreasn.myownb3.com/temp/wikilayout.svg There were a few changes we talked about making to this mockup. One was to add Sitemap to the top nav. Also, for styling, add the html bg file that I sent you recently (not the watercolor bg), add the footer called community.png that I'm attaching here, and make a new logo for live.gnome.org http://live.gnome.org/. I have some ideas for the logo if you need help. Again, the main thing we are trying to get out of this is simplicity, ease of use, and the main style elements of wgo- meaning header, footer background. If you try to make too many changes from the current theme in moin moin, I think it is going to get very complex once you start the implementation. It primarily needs to be clean and useful. Wikis are generally styled very simply, because they are all about storing content, rather than marketing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Main_Page If you have any questions, or when you have an example, please email Andreas or me- or look for us on IRC. It seems like it's been very difficult for us to meet up at the same time, so let's set up an IRC meeting for Monday if possible. I really appreciate your efforts! Thank you for your work- Christy On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Brett Legree brett.leg...@gmail.com mailto:brett.leg...@gmail.com wrote: Elena, Glad to lend a hand - certainly, please do take them as suggestions, since I am not a designer in any way shape or form! However, I do my best as a UI enthusiast and a cheerleader for people who *can* design - thanks again, -Brett On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Elena Petrevska elenapetrevsk...@gmail.com mailto:elenapetrevsk...@gmail.com wrote: Brett, at first, thanks for the encouragement and for the contribution. I will comment as I go through the mail. On 06/09/2012 07:53 PM, Brett Legree wrote: Good day Elena, Just a few more ideas to add to the mix, and sort of build on what Sri suggested. I attached a GIMP-edited version of your original image (should I instead be posting a link to an online site for this? Not sure of the protocol for the mailing list, if I should please let me know). I actually like the changes a lot. It is not a problem in both ways, you are fine with this method. As I am new, I am trying to get a feel for the purpose of the page, so I did a bit of cut paste to try and group things together or make things flow a bit. I put Search up at the top right so it is above the fold by default, for new and more experienced users, and I suggested moving the User Login part a bit lower in the hierarchy (since someone with a login would be familiar with the page). You really did some very useful changes. thanks ! I thought it was okay to have Join GNOME at the top (not sure where the link goes - to another page with all of them listed, or to the bottom of the page where they are spread out?) as well as at the bottom, as it would seem logical we want people to join the various projects. Or, we could try to have only one link to each topic, to simplify things for both users and coders (just something I picked up in my studies of UI/UX, I believe there are 6 or 7 ways to print a document in Microsoft Word, for instance, via shortcut keys, icons etc., some of them do the same thing, and some of them do not work exactly the same way). We will talk about this on the mailing list and I will (in the mean time) take care of implementing them in a design. You could experiment with that spread out list of links to the different Teams, perhaps with justified/non-justified arrangement of the text, alphabetical ordering maybe, or perhaps some kind of logical arrangement based on what is most important to the project as a whole (though I think they are all important - hence the suggestion for alphabetical ordering). I will certainly try it. Anyway,
Re: New design Live Gnome
Thanks Ali, I will be glad if you can help with the design. Thanks for the comment. Still I did some further changes : http://imgur.com/JHmU8 If there is also someone else who wants to assist , you are more than welcome. Elena On 06/09/2012 10:17 AM, Ali Raza wrote: Hi Elena Looks good but i think there is still space for improvement, let my know if i can assist. thanks Ali On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Elena Petrevska elenapetrevsk...@gmail.com mailto:elenapetrevsk...@gmail.com wrote: Hello guys, I finished the mockup for gnome live, and would like to ask you for a comment. http://imgur.com/vTVfk Thanks in advance ! Elena ___ gnome-web-list mailing list gnome-web-l...@gnome.org mailto:gnome-web-l...@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-web-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: New design Live Gnome
Hello, Are you really gonna change live.gnome.org, or is just a wish list item? If yes, I can post it on our blog, and ask people to sent mockups. We have 5-6k unique a day so there is might a chance someone to help Elena. Small chance but is is still there :) - alex On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Hi Elena! Some more feedback. I feel like the page itself is a little busy. How about this suggestion - make a single box called workspaces and move the team and module maintenance pages into there? Make another box called Improve GNOME and then move all the various links at the bottom into that? That will reduce the clutter. The boxes themselves use a hard black line as a border, I suggest feathering it at the edges so they have a softer look. I'm sure Andreas or someone who understands CSS better than I. :-) Hope the feedback is useful. Thanks for taking this on! We really need it! sri On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 5:29 AM, Elena Petrevska elenapetrevsk...@gmail.com wrote: ome further changes : http://imgu http://imgur.com/JHmU8 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: New design Live Gnome
On Sat, 2012-06-09 at 20:51 +0300, alex diavatis wrote: Are you really gonna change live.gnome.org, or is just a wish list item? If yes, I can post it on our blog, and ask people to sent mockups. We have 5-6k unique a day so there is might a chance someone to help Elena. Small chance but is is still there :) While the intention is good I am afraid that this would bring us back to the start (plus adds some potential for bikeshed discussions), while Elena's proposal has already seen and passed a few iterations. andre -- mailto:ak...@gmx.net | failed http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: New design Live Gnome
Brett, at first, thanks for the encouragement and for the contribution. I will comment as I go through the mail. On 06/09/2012 07:53 PM, Brett Legree wrote: Good day Elena, Just a few more ideas to add to the mix, and sort of build on what Sri suggested. I attached a GIMP-edited version of your original image (should I instead be posting a link to an online site for this? Not sure of the protocol for the mailing list, if I should please let me know). I actually like the changes a lot. It is not a problem in both ways, you are fine with this method. As I am new, I am trying to get a feel for the purpose of the page, so I did a bit of cut paste to try and group things together or make things flow a bit. I put Search up at the top right so it is above the fold by default, for new and more experienced users, and I suggested moving the User Login part a bit lower in the hierarchy (since someone with a login would be familiar with the page). You really did some very useful changes. thanks ! I thought it was okay to have Join GNOME at the top (not sure where the link goes - to another page with all of them listed, or to the bottom of the page where they are spread out?) as well as at the bottom, as it would seem logical we want people to join the various projects. Or, we could try to have only one link to each topic, to simplify things for both users and coders (just something I picked up in my studies of UI/UX, I believe there are 6 or 7 ways to print a document in Microsoft Word, for instance, via shortcut keys, icons etc., some of them do the same thing, and some of them do not work exactly the same way). We will talk about this on the mailing list and I will (in the mean time) take care of implementing them in a design. You could experiment with that spread out list of links to the different Teams, perhaps with justified/non-justified arrangement of the text, alphabetical ordering maybe, or perhaps some kind of logical arrangement based on what is most important to the project as a whole (though I think they are all important - hence the suggestion for alphabetical ordering). I will certainly try it. Anyway, just some suggestions of course and apologies for hacking your image apart (!) my GIMP-fu is still not as strong as it could be, so the boxes in my edited copy do not always line up the way they could or might. Hope it helps in any case - keep up the good work - Brett It was very helpful Brett, thanks again ! Elena -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: New design Live Gnome
Sri, thanks for the comment ! ( I will comment on your mail :) ) On 06/09/2012 07:39 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: Hi Elena! Some more feedback. I feel like the page itself is a little busy. How about this suggestion - make a single box called workspaces and move the team and module maintenance pages into there? Make another box called Improve GNOME and then move all the various links at the bottom into that? That will reduce the clutter. It is one idea making less boxes, and the other decreasing their size and freeing some space. We may talk on the #marketing channel and see what is the most practical The boxes themselves use a hard black line as a border, I suggest feathering it at the edges so they have a softer look. I'm sure Andreas or someone who understands CSS better than I. :-) It is a good idea ! Hope the feedback is useful. Thanks for taking this on! We really need it! This has to be done. And this time, we will make it :))) Thanks to you ! sri On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 5:29 AM, Elena Petrevska elenapetrevsk...@gmail.com mailto:elenapetrevsk...@gmail.com wrote: ome further changes : http://imgu http://imgur.com/JHmU8 Elena -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: New design Live Gnome
Hello Elena, On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 3:06 AM, Elena Petrevska elenapetrevsk...@gmail.com wrote: Alex, it will be amazing if you may include more people that may contribute ! It will be very useful, because as I said on the blog, More brains are better than one :) Klapper suggested that this isn't good idea. It is also quite likely that none won't respond, but as I always say, you never know :) So if you want me to print it out, I will. Personally I think is a good idea because even if none will help, it still will seem like GNOME is a community project, that everyone can easily involve with, and it will earn more sympathy. - alex Thank you very much ! Elena On 06/09/2012 07:51 PM, alex diavatis wrote: Hello, Are you really gonna change live.gnome.org, or is just a wish list item? If yes, I can post it on our blog, and ask people to sent mockups. We have 5-6k unique a day so there is might a chance someone to help Elena. Small chance but is is still there :) - alex -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: New design Live Gnome
Elena, Glad to lend a hand - certainly, please do take them as suggestions, since I am not a designer in any way shape or form! However, I do my best as a UI enthusiast and a cheerleader for people who *can* design - thanks again, -Brett On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Elena Petrevska elenapetrevsk...@gmail.com wrote: Brett, at first, thanks for the encouragement and for the contribution. I will comment as I go through the mail. On 06/09/2012 07:53 PM, Brett Legree wrote: Good day Elena, Just a few more ideas to add to the mix, and sort of build on what Sri suggested. I attached a GIMP-edited version of your original image (should I instead be posting a link to an online site for this? Not sure of the protocol for the mailing list, if I should please let me know). I actually like the changes a lot. It is not a problem in both ways, you are fine with this method. As I am new, I am trying to get a feel for the purpose of the page, so I did a bit of cut paste to try and group things together or make things flow a bit. I put Search up at the top right so it is above the fold by default, for new and more experienced users, and I suggested moving the User Login part a bit lower in the hierarchy (since someone with a login would be familiar with the page). You really did some very useful changes. thanks ! I thought it was okay to have Join GNOME at the top (not sure where the link goes - to another page with all of them listed, or to the bottom of the page where they are spread out?) as well as at the bottom, as it would seem logical we want people to join the various projects. Or, we could try to have only one link to each topic, to simplify things for both users and coders (just something I picked up in my studies of UI/UX, I believe there are 6 or 7 ways to print a document in Microsoft Word, for instance, via shortcut keys, icons etc., some of them do the same thing, and some of them do not work exactly the same way). We will talk about this on the mailing list and I will (in the mean time) take care of implementing them in a design. You could experiment with that spread out list of links to the different Teams, perhaps with justified/non-justified arrangement of the text, alphabetical ordering maybe, or perhaps some kind of logical arrangement based on what is most important to the project as a whole (though I think they are all important - hence the suggestion for alphabetical ordering). I will certainly try it. Anyway, just some suggestions of course and apologies for hacking your image apart (!) my GIMP-fu is still not as strong as it could be, so the boxes in my edited copy do not always line up the way they could or might. Hope it helps in any case - keep up the good work - Brett It was very helpful Brett, thanks again ! Elena -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: New design Live Gnome
Elena- Did you get the quick mockup that Andreas did yesterday? He and I discussed the layout and navigation yesterday on IRC. We want to keep it very simple. http://andreasn.myownb3.com/temp/wikilayout.png or an svg here, which would be editable in inkscape: http://andreasn.myownb3.com/temp/wikilayout.svg There were a few changes we talked about making to this mockup. One was to add Sitemap to the top nav. Also, for styling, add the html bg file that I sent you recently (not the watercolor bg), add the footer called community.png that I'm attaching here, and make a new logo for live.gnome.org. I have some ideas for the logo if you need help. Again, the main thing we are trying to get out of this is simplicity, ease of use, and the main style elements of wgo- meaning header, footer background. If you try to make too many changes from the current theme in moin moin, I think it is going to get very complex once you start the implementation. It primarily needs to be clean and useful. Wikis are generally styled very simply, because they are all about storing content, rather than marketing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Main_Page If you have any questions, or when you have an example, please email Andreas or me- or look for us on IRC. It seems like it's been very difficult for us to meet up at the same time, so let's set up an IRC meeting for Monday if possible. I really appreciate your efforts! Thank you for your work- Christy On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Brett Legree brett.leg...@gmail.com wrote: Elena, Glad to lend a hand - certainly, please do take them as suggestions, since I am not a designer in any way shape or form! However, I do my best as a UI enthusiast and a cheerleader for people who *can* design - thanks again, -Brett On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Elena Petrevska elenapetrevsk...@gmail.com wrote: Brett, at first, thanks for the encouragement and for the contribution. I will comment as I go through the mail. On 06/09/2012 07:53 PM, Brett Legree wrote: Good day Elena, Just a few more ideas to add to the mix, and sort of build on what Sri suggested. I attached a GIMP-edited version of your original image (should I instead be posting a link to an online site for this? Not sure of the protocol for the mailing list, if I should please let me know). I actually like the changes a lot. It is not a problem in both ways, you are fine with this method. As I am new, I am trying to get a feel for the purpose of the page, so I did a bit of cut paste to try and group things together or make things flow a bit. I put Search up at the top right so it is above the fold by default, for new and more experienced users, and I suggested moving the User Login part a bit lower in the hierarchy (since someone with a login would be familiar with the page). You really did some very useful changes. thanks ! I thought it was okay to have Join GNOME at the top (not sure where the link goes - to another page with all of them listed, or to the bottom of the page where they are spread out?) as well as at the bottom, as it would seem logical we want people to join the various projects. Or, we could try to have only one link to each topic, to simplify things for both users and coders (just something I picked up in my studies of UI/UX, I believe there are 6 or 7 ways to print a document in Microsoft Word, for instance, via shortcut keys, icons etc., some of them do the same thing, and some of them do not work exactly the same way). We will talk about this on the mailing list and I will (in the mean time) take care of implementing them in a design. You could experiment with that spread out list of links to the different Teams, perhaps with justified/non-justified arrangement of the text, alphabetical ordering maybe, or perhaps some kind of logical arrangement based on what is most important to the project as a whole (though I think they are all important - hence the suggestion for alphabetical ordering). I will certainly try it. Anyway, just some suggestions of course and apologies for hacking your image apart (!) my GIMP-fu is still not as strong as it could be, so the boxes in my edited copy do not always line up the way they could or might. Hope it helps in any case - keep up the good work - Brett It was very helpful Brett, thanks again ! Elena -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list attachment: community.png-- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list