Re: [MCN-L] Internal image use policies
I see your point. But it needn't "prohibit any efforts to ultimately adopt an open access policy for the public." The public is not bound by your internal policies. If you make images of public domain works accessible, obviously the public can do anything it pleases with them. There is no curatorial vetting for those uses -- only your museum's. Or to put it another way, your museum is free to continue to control how *it* uses images of PD works in its collections, just as the public is free to do otherwise. Your museum's reproductions will retain the stamp of approval, authenticity, and integrity that your institution wants. Does that make sense? I would take the Rijksstudio project as an example. Making their images of their PD collections free for the public to muck about with hasn't reduced the integrity of the Rijksmuseum's collections or photography one bit. Amalyah Keshet Head of Image Resources & Copyright Management The Israel Museum, Jerusalem From: mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu on behalf of Perian Sully Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 19:44 To: Museum Computer Network Listserv Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Internal image use policies Thanks everyone for your replies. Amalyah, what I mean regarding internal use policies is exactly as you stated - curators wishing to retain full control of representations of objects in the collection. Currently, it's a blanket rule that everything, regardless of copyright or sensitivity, needs to be run by curatorial before the image is cropped or edited for use by all other departments. The vast majority of the collection is public domain. Obviously, this increases workloads for the staff and slows down production of program materials, but it would also prohibit any efforts to ultimately adopt an open access policy for the public. So I'm looking for the balance between respect for collection representation/copyright and facilitating access. ~P On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Amalyah Keshet wrote: > Hi Perian > > Rather depends on what you mean by "internal use policies". Could you > clarify? > > If a work is in the public domain, it is no longer protected and anyone > can reproduce it in any way they want, including cropping it, etc. Are you > implying institutional policies that would override that? Are you thinking > of reproductions in catalogs, or in marketing materials, or on social > media, or on signage...? > > I can think of situations in which a curator might object to misleading > manipulation of a public domain work from the collection, and in fact the > role of our institutions is to preserve the integrity of the works in our > collections, but in general cropping for graphic reasons would be > considered just that: a design decision, and those tend to be taken during > the editorial / design process by those involved: curators, editors, > graphic designers. > > If a work is still protected by copyright and (in some countries) by moral > rights, then cropping or manipulation would require the approval of the > artist or copyright holder. That's not an "internal use" policy; let's > call it best practice. > There are artists who are fine with things like cropping; others are not. > > Amalyah Keshet > Head of Image Resources & Copyright Management > The Israel Museum, Jerusalem > > > ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l@mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://mcn.edu/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l The MCN-L archives can be found at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mcn-l@mcn.edu/
Re: [MCN-L] Internal image use policies
Thanks everyone for your replies. Amalyah, what I mean regarding internal use policies is exactly as you stated - curators wishing to retain full control of representations of objects in the collection. Currently, it's a blanket rule that everything, regardless of copyright or sensitivity, needs to be run by curatorial before the image is cropped or edited for use by all other departments. The vast majority of the collection is public domain. Obviously, this increases workloads for the staff and slows down production of program materials, but it would also prohibit any efforts to ultimately adopt an open access policy for the public. So I'm looking for the balance between respect for collection representation/copyright and facilitating access. ~P On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Amalyah Keshet wrote: > Hi Perian > > Rather depends on what you mean by "internal use policies". Could you > clarify? > > If a work is in the public domain, it is no longer protected and anyone > can reproduce it in any way they want, including cropping it, etc. Are you > implying institutional policies that would override that? Are you thinking > of reproductions in catalogs, or in marketing materials, or on social > media, or on signage...? > > I can think of situations in which a curator might object to misleading > manipulation of a public domain work from the collection, and in fact the > role of our institutions is to preserve the integrity of the works in our > collections, but in general cropping for graphic reasons would be > considered just that: a design decision, and those tend to be taken during > the editorial / design process by those involved: curators, editors, > graphic designers. > > If a work is still protected by copyright and (in some countries) by moral > rights, then cropping or manipulation would require the approval of the > artist or copyright holder. That's not an "internal use" policy; let's > call it best practice. > There are artists who are fine with things like cropping; others are not. > > Amalyah Keshet > Head of Image Resources & Copyright Management > The Israel Museum, Jerusalem > > > ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l@mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://mcn.edu/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l The MCN-L archives can be found at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mcn-l@mcn.edu/
Re: [MCN-L] Internal image use policies
Hi Perian Rather depends on what you mean by "internal use policies". Could you clarify? If a work is in the public domain, it is no longer protected and anyone can reproduce it in any way they want, including cropping it, etc. Are you implying institutional policies that would override that? Are you thinking of reproductions in catalogs, or in marketing materials, or on social media, or on signage...? I can think of situations in which a curator might object to misleading manipulation of a public domain work from the collection, and in fact the role of our institutions is to preserve the integrity of the works in our collections, but in general cropping for graphic reasons would be considered just that: a design decision, and those tend to be taken during the editorial / design process by those involved: curators, editors, graphic designers. If a work is still protected by copyright and (in some countries) by moral rights, then cropping or manipulation would require the approval of the artist or copyright holder. That's not an "internal use" policy; let's call it best practice. There are artists who are fine with things like cropping; others are not. Amalyah Keshet Head of Image Resources & Copyright Management The Israel Museum, Jerusalem From: mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu on behalf of Perian Sully Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 01:53 To: Museum Computer Network Listserv Subject: [MCN-L] Internal image use policies Hi everyone: I'm looking for a few examples of internal use policies for images, especially for public domain or orphan works. Do you allow free cropping and editing by staff or do you require curatorial approval before each use? what kinds of materials have restrictions, if any? Thanks in advance, ~Perian ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l@mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://mcn.edu/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l The MCN-L archives can be found at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mcn-l@mcn.edu/
Re: [MCN-L] Internal image use policies
Hi Perian, Check out DAYOR for some interesting articles and papers and insights on image usage and for some links to records on image use. http://displayatyourownrisk.org/about-dayor/ Also: Kapsalis, E., The Impact of Open Access on Galleries, Libraries, Museums, & Archives (2016), available at: http://siarchives.si.edu/sites/default/files/pdfs/2016_03_10_OpenCollections_Public.pdf Gorgels, P., Rijksstudio, Make Your Own Masterpiece. A Keynote from the 2013 NDF Conference (2014), available at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW17d-OQsIs Sanderhoff, M., ‘Open Images. Risk or opportunity for art museums in the digital age?’ (2013) Nordic Museology 131-46 Best regards, Simon Simon Tanner | Pro Vice Dean (Impact & Innovation), Arts & Humanities Professor of Digital Cultural Heritage Department of Digital Humanities | Senior Tutor King's College London | 219, 26-29 Drury Lane | London WC2B 5RL Email: simon.tan...@kcl.ac.uk Research: https://kclpure.kcl.ac.uk/portal/simon.tanner.html -Original Message- From: mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Perian Sully Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 11:54 PM To: Museum Computer Network Listserv Subject: [MCN-L] Internal image use policies Hi everyone: I'm looking for a few examples of internal use policies for images, especially for public domain or orphan works. Do you allow free cropping and editing by staff or do you require curatorial approval before each use? what kinds of materials have restrictions, if any? Thanks in advance, ~Perian ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l@mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://mcn.edu/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l The MCN-L archives can be found at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mcn-l@mcn.edu/
Re: [MCN-L] Internal image use policies
Hi Perian, Check out DAYOR for some interesting articles and papers and insights on image usage and for some links to records on image use. http://displayatyourownrisk.org/about-dayor/ Also: Kapsalis, E., The Impact of Open Access on Galleries, Libraries, Museums, & Archives (2016), available at: http://siarchives.si.edu/sites/default/files/pdfs/2016_03_10_OpenCollections_Public.pdf Gorgels, P., Rijksstudio, Make Your Own Masterpiece. A Keynote from the 2013 NDF Conference (2014), available at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW17d-OQsIs Sanderhoff, M., ‘Open Images. Risk or opportunity for art museums in the digital age?’ (2013) Nordic Museology 131-46 Best regards, Simon Simon Tanner | Pro Vice Dean (Impact & Innovation), Arts & Humanities Professor of Digital Cultural Heritage Department of Digital Humanities | Senior Tutor King's College London | 219, 26-29 Drury Lane | London WC2B 5RL Email: simon.tan...@kcl.ac.uk Research: https://kclpure.kcl.ac.uk/portal/simon.tanner.html -Original Message- From: mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Perian Sully Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 11:54 PM To: Museum Computer Network Listserv Subject: [MCN-L] Internal image use policies Hi everyone: I'm looking for a few examples of internal use policies for images, especially for public domain or orphan works. Do you allow free cropping and editing by staff or do you require curatorial approval before each use? what kinds of materials have restrictions, if any? Thanks in advance, ~Perian ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l@mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://mcn.edu/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l The MCN-L archives can be found at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mcn-l@mcn.edu/
Re: [MCN-L] Internal image use policies
Hi Perian and all, With images of public domain works here in the Davison Art Center collection, anyone (museum staff, parent university staff, or public) is free to do whatever they want under our open access images policy. That said, if a given use were to be for a public-facing institutional publication under our own auspices, it would eventually go through our general proofing flow in design stage, and approving the treatment of images (regardless of their sources) would be part of that process. Hope this helps, Rob -- Rob Lancefield Manager of Museum Information Services / Registrar of Collections Davison Art Center, Wesleyan University 301 High Street, Middletown CT 06459-0487 USA rlancefield [at] wesleyan [dot] edu | tel. 860.685.2965 On 10/19/16 6:53 PM, Perian Sully wrote: Hi everyone: I'm looking for a few examples of internal use policies for images, especially for public domain or orphan works. Do you allow free cropping and editing by staff or do you require curatorial approval before each use? what kinds of materials have restrictions, if any? Thanks in advance, ~Perian ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l@mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://mcn.edu/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l The MCN-L archives can be found at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mcn-l@mcn.edu/