Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD
It is more than a little slop at this point so that is what I want to resolve. I know they have a bit of play but this one is getting a little concerning after 350k or 400k miles. If it goes another 50k tighter that should be good at least another 20years at the rate I drive it. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Mar 11, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > IIRC they need to have a little slop in the steering. If you tighten > the steering box up too much it just wears faster. > > Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes writes: > >> I have not driven this car for awhile so took it out this evening for a >> little spin. I do like driving me a 126. The steering box is a little loose >> though, I need to tighten it up a bit. I’ve seen some vids and such on that >> and know it can be tricky but I should give it a try. I rebuilt the Front >> suspension some years ago so it Is good. >> >> As I was turning back into the driveway a G63 passed me. Got me thinking >> that a 37yo car is still pretty nice. >> >> --FT >> Sent from iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD
IIRC they need to have a little slop in the steering. If you tighten the steering box up too much it just wears faster. Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes writes: > I have not driven this car for awhile so took it out this evening for a > little spin. I do like driving me a 126. The steering box is a little loose > though, I need to tighten it up a bit. I’ve seen some vids and such on that > and know it can be tricky but I should give it a try. I rebuilt the Front > suspension some years ago so it Is good. > > As I was turning back into the driveway a G63 passed me. Got me thinking that > a 37yo car is still pretty nice. > > --FT > Sent from iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 84 300SD
I have not driven this car for awhile so took it out this evening for a little spin. I do like driving me a 126. The steering box is a little loose though, I need to tighten it up a bit. I’ve seen some vids and such on that and know it can be tricky but I should give it a try. I rebuilt the Front suspension some years ago so it Is good. As I was turning back into the driveway a G63 passed me. Got me thinking that a 37yo car is still pretty nice. --FT Sent from iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '84 300SD on BAT ends in 45 minutes
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1984-mercedes-benz-300sd-turbo-diesel-15/ Current Bid: $5,000 Ends In: 45:04 Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '84 300SD on BAT - It even has a car phone!
I would really like that one - notwithstanding the fact that I have more vehicles than I can drive at one time and no extra parking available. RB On 22/11/2016 12:49 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: I have 2 84s, that one looks pretty nice and I like the color. $4k might not be a bad price, $3.5k would be better. --FT On 11/22/16 9:44 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: What do people think of this? I few exterior scuffs but overall quite decent. The auction ends today. I would expect bidding to peter out around the $4k mark and I am generally on the mark. Anyone else? The commentary is interesting with one guy expressing preference for the 560. http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1984-mercedes-benz-300sd-turbo-diesel/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '84 300SD on BAT - It even has a car phone!
I have 2 84s, that one looks pretty nice and I like the color. $4k might not be a bad price, $3.5k would be better. --FT On 11/22/16 9:44 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: What do people think of this? I few exterior scuffs but overall quite decent. The auction ends today. I would expect bidding to peter out around the $4k mark and I am generally on the mark. Anyone else? The commentary is interesting with one guy expressing preference for the 560. http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1984-mercedes-benz-300sd-turbo-diesel/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT Winston Churchill: “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.” ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '84 300SD on BAT - It even has a car phone!
What do people think of this? I few exterior scuffs but overall quite decent. The auction ends today. I would expect bidding to peter out around the $4k mark and I am generally on the mark. Anyone else? The commentary is interesting with one guy expressing preference for the 560. http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1984-mercedes-benz-300sd-turbo-diesel/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 84 300SD
Reasonable price http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1102013836.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 84 300SD Mileage
I have an '82 300SD with 304k miles. At 75 mph, I average 27 mpg. 25 in town. 23.5 with two boats on the roof rack, heading into a stiff westerly at 75. I am no feather-foot, either. The previous owner reported getting as high as 32 during the 55 mph speed limit days. 27 is bang on, no boast. That car is a duplicate of mine save for the year. I'd buy it in a minute if it is as good as it looks. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question
How flat is the battery in it? How long did you leave the booster cables hooked up before you tried to start the car? When I'm boosting my 240D I leave the cables connected for at least 5 minutes. If the battery is down enough that I need to boost it its going to take some time to get back up to where it'll start the car. I have very good, heavy booster cables by the way, cheap ones will get really hot when you're slamming power through them to a flat battery. You can really heat 'em up boosting a 6v tractor off a 12v pickup, not too bad if you're quick but my Great uncle had some cheapie cables for awhile and ended up burning the end off one. You can't start the car purely off the booster cables, your cables don't make a good enough connection, you need to let the battery in the car pick up some charge before you try to start. -Curt '83 240D "Hammie" 251kmi '85 190D "Dory" 233kmi Date: 16 Jan 2006 20:25:21 -0000 From: "Alan Duff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I'm looking at a 1984 300SD with 231k miles. In attempting to start it using booster cables, with a hot jump battery, the starter spings very slowly. Never gets fast enough to start and he jumper cables get hot to the touch. Is this a bad starter or some other problem in the electrical system? Alan Duff Knoxville, TN - Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jan 16 23:59:08 2006 Received: from [70.184.21.183] (helo=[192.168.1.100]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1EyeFf-Ag-UN; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:59:08 + Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:59:09 -0600 From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Banned List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: [MBZ] euro 5.0 throttle position sensor and other questions X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:59:08 - OK, slowing working out the little bugs with the euro 5.0 in the US 380. I figured out this thing has a throttle position sensor which is located under the air meter deal, fuel distributor etc right on the side of the throttle body. The euro engine has a wire with a flat 2 lead connector, the US car and another US car I have here has a round 3 lead connector for the sensor. I have a high idle of 900-1K rpm and am assuming this is probably the cause. I also seem to have a very slight surge when maintaining the same speed going down the road which also leads to this. Anyways, Im assuming Im going to have to swap the sensors. Any way of doing this short of removing the whole injection system? Thinking about taking the whole thing off anyways and putting the US version back on. On the US version there is a wire that is supposed to hook up to some sort of valve just to the left of the fuel dist. There is a small fuel line that comes out of the fuel dist that goes to this valve with the electrical connection, then if goes back out of this valve and around to another valve on the back of the fuel dist that has a vacuum connection on it. From there I think it goes to the warm up regulator but cant remember off hand. The euro motor does not have this setup with that valve and therefor the wire is not hooked to anything for it. Anybody know what this is for and what it causes when not hooked up? Think I should put the US stuff on the euro motor or just swap the throttle sensor and leave it at that? With the US injection parts on the euro motor, will it decrease the power? Im sure nobody will know much about this since this is sort of new territory but thought I would ask. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question
I always use at least two sets of cables if they are not very heavy duty. That seems to work. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 4:09 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question Alan Duff wrote: > > I'm looking at a 1984 300SD with 231k miles. In attempting to start it > using booster cables, with a hot jump battery, the starter spings very > slowly. Never gets fast enough to start and he jumper cables get hot > to the touch. Is this a bad starter or some other problem in the > electrical system? I think it's a problem in the jumper cables. 4ga cables don't get hot, 10ga cables get hot and have enough voltage drop to prevent them from starting a car. 6ga and 8ga cables are iffy. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question
This is the only type I use. Anything less is a waste of money IMHO. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave M. Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 2:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question Alan, ...The best deal I know of is at AutoZone. They have a nice set of 2-gauge, 20-foot cables, made in USA, with beefy clamps for $39. I looked all over and that's the best deal I could find for seriously heavy-duty cables.
Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question
Also make sure you have a good ground attachment. I boosted my wife's car with my pickup a couple of weeks ago and initially it did not want to go. I moved the ground clamp on the pickup to a different spot and it cranked fine and went right away. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave M. Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 12:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question Alan, In my experience, jump-starting a diesel - whether it's a little VW diesel, or an MB diesel - is very different than your typical gas engine. To make a long story somewhat shorter, I finally learned that 6 gauge, or even 4 gauge, booster cables are nearly useless. 2 gauge is barely adequate, but it's hard to find anything larger unless you make them yourself from welding cable. The smaller cables make the engine turn over very slowly. Bigger cables, or doubling-up two pairs of smaller ones, made a HUGE difference even on my little VW diesel 4-banger. The best deal I know of is at AutoZone. They have a nice set of 2-gauge, 20-foot cables, made in USA, with beefy clamps for $39. I looked all over and that's the best deal I could find for seriously heavy-duty cables. While your 300SD *could* have some other electrical issues, my money is on the booster cables you were using. Try bigger ones, or simply get the battery fully charged - that will eliminate that possibility quickly. If a fully-charged Group 49 battery is having trouble spinning the engine, you either have wiring problems, or a starter going out. :-) -Dave M. > -- > Date: 16 Jan 2006 20:25:21 - > From: "Alan Duff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question > > I'm looking at a 1984 300SD with 231k miles. In attempting to start it > using booster cables, with a hot jump battery, the starter spings very > slowly. Never gets fast enough to start and he jumper cables get hot to > the touch. Is this a bad starter or some other problem in the electrical > system? > > Alan Duff > Knoxville, TN ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question
On Monday, Jan 16, 2006, at 15:25 US/Eastern, Alan Duff wrote: I'm looking at a 1984 300SD with 231k miles. In attempting to start it using booster cables, with a hot jump battery, the starter spings very slowly. Never gets fast enough to start and he jumper cables get hot to the touch. Is this a bad starter or some other problem in the electrical system? Alan Duff Knoxville, TN It takes serious jumper cables to start a diesel. I make mine from welding cable. Jumping from a running vehicle helps too. Johnny B I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question
I'm looking at a 1984 300SD with 231k miles. In attempting to start it using booster cables, with a hot jump battery, the starter spings very slowly. Never gets fast enough to start and he jumper cables get hot to the touch. Is this a bad starter or some other problem in the electrical system? It's a bad battery combined with too-wimpy jumper cables. I was unable to jump-start our SDL when its battery went dead, for this very reason. If the cables don't look like welding cable there's no way they will jump-start any diesel, except maybe a new TDI or something. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question
Ought cables RULE! - Original Message From: Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:09:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question Alan Duff wrote: > > I'm looking at a 1984 300SD with 231k miles. In attempting to start it > using booster cables, with a hot jump battery, the starter spings very > slowly. Never gets fast enough to start and he jumper cables get hot to > the touch. Is this a bad starter or some other problem in the electrical > system? I think it's a problem in the jumper cables. 4ga cables don't get hot, 10ga cables get hot and have enough voltage drop to prevent them from starting a car. 6ga and 8ga cables are iffy.
Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question
Alan, In my experience, jump-starting a diesel - whether it's a little VW diesel, or an MB diesel - is very different than your typical gas engine. To make a long story somewhat shorter, I finally learned that 6 gauge, or even 4 gauge, booster cables are nearly useless. 2 gauge is barely adequate, but it's hard to find anything larger unless you make them yourself from welding cable. The smaller cables make the engine turn over very slowly. Bigger cables, or doubling-up two pairs of smaller ones, made a HUGE difference even on my little VW diesel 4-banger. The best deal I know of is at AutoZone. They have a nice set of 2-gauge, 20-foot cables, made in USA, with beefy clamps for $39. I looked all over and that's the best deal I could find for seriously heavy-duty cables. While your 300SD *could* have some other electrical issues, my money is on the booster cables you were using. Try bigger ones, or simply get the battery fully charged - that will eliminate that possibility quickly. If a fully-charged Group 49 battery is having trouble spinning the engine, you either have wiring problems, or a starter going out. :-) -Dave M. > -- > Date: 16 Jan 2006 20:25:21 - > From: "Alan Duff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question > > I'm looking at a 1984 300SD with 231k miles. In attempting to start it > using booster cables, with a hot jump battery, the starter spings very > slowly. Never gets fast enough to start and he jumper cables get hot to > the touch. Is this a bad starter or some other problem in the electrical > system? > > Alan Duff > Knoxville, TN
Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question
Mitch is correct. The cheapo jumper cables won't cut it with a diesel. Get some good cables. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:09 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question Alan Duff wrote: > > I'm looking at a 1984 300SD with 231k miles. In attempting to start it > using booster cables, with a hot jump battery, the starter spings very > slowly. Never gets fast enough to start and he jumper cables get hot to > the touch. Is this a bad starter or some other problem in the electrical > system? I think it's a problem in the jumper cables. 4ga cables don't get hot, 10ga cables get hot and have enough voltage drop to prevent them from starting a car. 6ga and 8ga cables are iffy. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question
Alan, More than likely it's small diameter cables and a completely dead battery. You need jumper cables made from least 8 gauge wire to jump start without help from the vehicle's battery and even 8 gauge will get warm. It helps a lot to let the vehicle's battery charge 15 minutes through the jumper cables before trying to start. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alan Duff Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 2:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question I'm looking at a 1984 300SD with 231k miles. In attempting to start it using booster cables, with a hot jump battery, the starter spings very slowly. Never gets fast enough to start and he jumper cables get hot to the touch. Is this a bad starter or some other problem in the electrical system? Alan Duff Knoxville, TN ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question
It's very tough to jump start a diesel because they use a LOT of juice. You're better off putting a better battery in it to start the car. Jeff Zedic Toronto
Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question
Alan Duff wrote: > > I'm looking at a 1984 300SD with 231k miles. In attempting to start it > using booster cables, with a hot jump battery, the starter spings very > slowly. Never gets fast enough to start and he jumper cables get hot to > the touch. Is this a bad starter or some other problem in the electrical > system? I think it's a problem in the jumper cables. 4ga cables don't get hot, 10ga cables get hot and have enough voltage drop to prevent them from starting a car. 6ga and 8ga cables are iffy.
[MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question
I'm looking at a 1984 300SD with 231k miles. In attempting to start it using booster cables, with a hot jump battery, the starter spings very slowly. Never gets fast enough to start and he jumper cables get hot to the touch. Is this a bad starter or some other problem in the electrical system? Alan Duff Knoxville, TN
