[meteorite-list] is this a meteorite or not

[habibi abdelaziz]

hello all

this is not an ad " i know an ad per week"

well see this 360 gr and tell me if it is a meteorite or not it has some iron 
nickel; it look like agoult or dunite.
or a new achondrite  , or an earth rock but than what the  iron nickel is doing 
there,,,

http://www.flickr.com/photos/azizhabibi/

aziz


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Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite

[Ed Deckert]

I have seen broken massive pyrite, or large broken cubes that closely 
resemble this.  Galena is another thought,


Ed

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A friend of mine who lives in Germany was given this and was told it was a 
meteorite.




http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Meteorites/Markus.jpg


I told him I didn't recognize it as a meteorite bit I figured I would post 
here just to be sure.


Does anyone know what this is?

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Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite

[Bob Loeffler]

How about doing a Nickel test on it?  It looks very similar to galena to me,
but the long bands of metal tell me that it isn't galena.

Bob
 

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Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 4:15 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; David & Kitt Deyarmin
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite

What bad news? You didn't think it looked like this nantan meteorite?
http://www.mr-meteorite.com/nantan.htm
To me this is the only picture that looked like yours... what did I miss?

Ruben Garcia
Phoenix, Arizona
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> Subject: [meteorite-list]  Is this a meteorite
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 3:04 PM
> Thanks for all the replies.
> 
> 
> I will relay the bad news to my friend
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Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite

[Del Waterbury]

Yeah there's no mistaking Galena when you see it. The way it fractures and the 
color is always a dead give away. Here's a link that explains it some, take 
note of the density-

http://www.webmineral.com/data/Galena.shtml

Del


--- On Fri, 6/27/08, Pete Shugar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Pete Shugar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite
> To: "Del Waterbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, 
> "David & Kitt Deyarmin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Mr EMan" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 10:56 AM
> I knew I'd seen that somewhere!!!
> I pulled out my cat's whisker detector and sure enough
> that's just what it looked like.
> Pete, IMCA 1773, KL7GNW
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Del Waterbury"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: ;
> "David & Kitt Deyarmin" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mr EMan" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 11:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite
> 
> 
> > If I was going to take a guess of what was in that
> picture I would say it 
> > looks like Galena. Not sure if this one has been
> suggested yet, but that 
> > what it looks like to me.
> >
> > Del
> >
> >
> > --- On Fri, 6/27/08, Mr EMan
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Mr EMan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite
> >> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com,
> "David & Kitt Deyarmin" 
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 4:01 AM
> >> Before anyone falls on their sword over this
> specimen, note
> >> the gas channel/tube in the middle-- scraggy as it
> is, even
> >> Na tan isn't worm eaten!
> >>
> >> It was my observation that, while many folks
> submitted lots
> >> of candidates which I enjoyed looking over, there
> were many
> >> subtle distinctions and outright differences that
> >> didn't match. The specimen
> "resembled" most
> >> of them but on closer viewing didn't
> "match"
> >> any of them. The most common feature was metallic
> luster
> >> but twasn't the same metallic luster on any of
> the
> >> photos.
> >>
> >> Not trying to be pedantic but many times it is
> better to
> >> look for the differences in all the features(e.g.
> fracture,
> >> texture, crystal faces, etc.) It the specimens
> match there
> >> will be none.
> >>
> >> I don't have a photo of metallic silicon handy
> but it
> >> too has subtle surface differences: it has a
> convex,
> >> undulating, fracture vs the flat banded fractures
> this
> >> specimen shows.
> >>
> >> Up to this point, the gas channel most certainly
> points to
> >> a smelting product(aka slag or bad run) and, I
> would be
> >> comfortable saying that I know what it is not. 
> The great
> >> part about all the photo sharing is we now have
> many more
> >> materials to compare when we are trying to
> identify a given
> >> specimen. Plus I wouldn't have totally blown
> that
> >> mesosiderite photo a few months back had I looked
> closer.
> >>
> >> Thanks Bunches,
> >> Elton
> >>
> >> Elton
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On Thu, 6/26/08, Ruben Garcia
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > What bad news? You didn't think it looked
> like
> >> this
> >> > nantan meteorite?
> >> http://www.mr-meteorite.com/nantan.htm
> >> > To me this is the only picture that looked
> like
> >> yours...
> >> > what did I miss?
> >>
> >> > --- On Thu, 6/26/08, David & Kitt
> Deyarmin
> >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > > I will relay the bad news to my friend
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Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite

[Pete Shugar]

I knew I'd seen that somewhere!!!
I pulled out my cat's whisker detector and sure enough
that's just what it looked like.
Pete, IMCA 1773, KL7GNW

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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mr EMan" 
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Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite


If I was going to take a guess of what was in that picture I would say it 
looks like Galena. Not sure if this one has been suggested yet, but that 
what it looks like to me.


Del


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From: Mr EMan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, "David & Kitt Deyarmin" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 4:01 AM
Before anyone falls on their sword over this specimen, note
the gas channel/tube in the middle-- scraggy as it is, even
Na tan isn't worm eaten!

It was my observation that, while many folks submitted lots
of candidates which I enjoyed looking over, there were many
subtle distinctions and outright differences that
didn't match. The specimen "resembled" most
of them but on closer viewing didn't "match"
any of them. The most common feature was metallic luster
but twasn't the same metallic luster on any of the
photos.

Not trying to be pedantic but many times it is better to
look for the differences in all the features(e.g. fracture,
texture, crystal faces, etc.) It the specimens match there
will be none.

I don't have a photo of metallic silicon handy but it
too has subtle surface differences: it has a convex,
undulating, fracture vs the flat banded fractures this
specimen shows.

Up to this point, the gas channel most certainly points to
a smelting product(aka slag or bad run) and, I would be
comfortable saying that I know what it is not.  The great
part about all the photo sharing is we now have many more
materials to compare when we are trying to identify a given
specimen. Plus I wouldn't have totally blown that
mesosiderite photo a few months back had I looked closer.

Thanks Bunches,
Elton

Elton


--- On Thu, 6/26/08, Ruben Garcia
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What bad news? You didn't think it looked like
this
> nantan meteorite?
http://www.mr-meteorite.com/nantan.htm
> To me this is the only picture that looked like
yours...
> what did I miss?

> --- On Thu, 6/26/08, David & Kitt Deyarmin
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I will relay the bad news to my friend
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Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite

[Ruben Garcia]

Just send me his address and I'll send him a real meteorite found by the world 
famous Mr-Meteorite - I happen to know him personally!

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Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite

[Del Waterbury]

If I was going to take a guess of what was in that picture I would say it looks 
like Galena. Not sure if this one has been suggested yet, but that what it 
looks like to me.

Del


--- On Fri, 6/27/08, Mr EMan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Mr EMan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, "David & Kitt Deyarmin" <[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 4:01 AM
> Before anyone falls on their sword over this specimen, note
> the gas channel/tube in the middle-- scraggy as it is, even
> Na tan isn't worm eaten!
> 
> It was my observation that, while many folks submitted lots
> of candidates which I enjoyed looking over, there were many
> subtle distinctions and outright differences that
> didn't match. The specimen "resembled" most
> of them but on closer viewing didn't "match"
> any of them. The most common feature was metallic luster
> but twasn't the same metallic luster on any of the
> photos.
> 
> Not trying to be pedantic but many times it is better to
> look for the differences in all the features(e.g. fracture,
> texture, crystal faces, etc.) It the specimens match there
> will be none.
> 
> I don't have a photo of metallic silicon handy but it
> too has subtle surface differences: it has a convex,
> undulating, fracture vs the flat banded fractures this
> specimen shows.  
> 
> Up to this point, the gas channel most certainly points to
> a smelting product(aka slag or bad run) and, I would be
> comfortable saying that I know what it is not.  The great
> part about all the photo sharing is we now have many more
> materials to compare when we are trying to identify a given
> specimen. Plus I wouldn't have totally blown that
> mesosiderite photo a few months back had I looked closer.
> 
> Thanks Bunches,
> Elton
> 
> Elton
> 
> 
> --- On Thu, 6/26/08, Ruben Garcia
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > What bad news? You didn't think it looked like
> this
> > nantan meteorite?
> http://www.mr-meteorite.com/nantan.htm
> > To me this is the only picture that looked like
> yours...
> > what did I miss?
> 
> > --- On Thu, 6/26/08, David & Kitt Deyarmin
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > > I will relay the bad news to my friend
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Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite

[Dave Gheesling]

Ruben & All,
I'd agree with Sean.  That piece was far too sharp and angular to be a
Nantan crystal...have some examples of my own and I don't think it looks
like yours either, Ruben.  Just 2 gm worth...
Dave 

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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite

What bad news? You didn't think it looked like this nantan meteorite?
http://www.mr-meteorite.com/nantan.htm
To me this is the only picture that looked like yours... what did I miss?

Ruben Garcia
Phoenix, Arizona
http://www.mr-meteorite.com
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=meteorfright&p=v


--- On Thu, 6/26/08, David & Kitt Deyarmin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: David & Kitt Deyarmin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [meteorite-list]  Is this a meteorite
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 3:04 PM Thanks for all the replies.
> 
> 
> I will relay the bad news to my friend 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite

[Mr EMan]

Before anyone falls on their sword over this specimen, note the gas 
channel/tube in the middle-- scraggy as it is, even Na tan isn't worm eaten!

It was my observation that, while many folks submitted lots of candidates which 
I enjoyed looking over, there were many subtle distinctions and outright 
differences that didn't match. The specimen "resembled" most of them but on 
closer viewing didn't "match" any of them. The most common feature was metallic 
luster but twasn't the same metallic luster on any of the photos.

Not trying to be pedantic but many times it is better to look for the 
differences in all the features(e.g. fracture, texture, crystal faces, etc.) It 
the specimens match there will be none.

I don't have a photo of metallic silicon handy but it too has subtle surface 
differences: it has a convex, undulating, fracture vs the flat banded fractures 
this specimen shows.  

Up to this point, the gas channel most certainly points to a smelting 
product(aka slag or bad run) and, I would be comfortable saying that I know 
what it is not.  The great part about all the photo sharing is we now have many 
more materials to compare when we are trying to identify a given specimen. Plus 
I wouldn't have totally blown that mesosiderite photo a few months back had I 
looked closer.

Thanks Bunches,
Elton

Elton


--- On Thu, 6/26/08, Ruben Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What bad news? You didn't think it looked like this
> nantan meteorite? http://www.mr-meteorite.com/nantan.htm
> To me this is the only picture that looked like yours...
> what did I miss?

> --- On Thu, 6/26/08, David & Kitt Deyarmin
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > I will relay the bad news to my friend
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Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite

[Sean T. Murray]

The Nantans I've seen (like the one you mention) don't have such 
angular/crystal features line the one David showed...  I agree it is 
possible, just didn't look quite right...


David - Is yours attracted to a  magnet?  Silica Metal is not... so if his 
is attracted to a magnet, it is something else...  Possibly the Nantan that 
Ruben mentions...


Sean.

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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite


What bad news? You didn't think it looked like this nantan meteorite? 
http://www.mr-meteorite.com/nantan.htm

To me this is the only picture that looked like yours... what did I miss?

Ruben Garcia
Phoenix, Arizona
http://www.mr-meteorite.com
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=meteorfright&p=v


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From: David & Kitt Deyarmin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [meteorite-list]  Is this a meteorite
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 3:04 PM
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Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite

[Ruben Garcia]

What bad news? You didn't think it looked like this nantan meteorite? 
http://www.mr-meteorite.com/nantan.htm
To me this is the only picture that looked like yours... what did I miss?

Ruben Garcia
Phoenix, Arizona
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> From: David & Kitt Deyarmin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [meteorite-list]  Is this a meteorite
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 3:04 PM
> Thanks for all the replies.
> 
> 
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[meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite

[David & Kitt Deyarmin]

Thanks for all the replies.


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Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite

[Ruben Garcia]

It looks like Nantan there's a lot of this at the Gem and Mineral shows. I have 
some that Skip Wilson gave me, looks just like it. 

Take a look at mine.
http://www.mr-meteorite.com/nantan.htm

Ruben Garcia
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--- On Wed, 6/25/08, Sean T. Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Sean T. Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite
> To: "David & Kitt Deyarmin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 4:28 PM
> Looks like Silica Metal.  I have something like that myself.
> Man made 
> byproduct of smelting... I found some in the woods when I
> was 8 or 9 - kept 
> it as my "first meteorite" and still have it on
> the shelf - good example of 
> a wrong to show people...
> 
> http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk196/STM_images/Meteorites/Wrongs001.jpg
> 
> Sean.
> 
> - Original Message - 
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> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 6:30 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite
> 
> 
> >A friend of mine who lives in Germany was given this
> and was told it was a 
> >meteorite.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Meteorites/Markus.jpg
> >
> >
> > I told him I didn't recognize it as a meteorite
> bit I figured I would post 
> > here just to be sure.
> >
> > Does anyone know what this is?
> >
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Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite

[Drake]

Looks to me like Chromium. The link is to a picture of a piece of chromium I 
have here.

http://www.nepra.com/cr.JPG


Drake


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To: 
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite


A friend of mine who lives in Germany was given this and was told it was a 
meteorite.




http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Meteorites/Markus.jpg


I told him I didn't recognize it as a meteorite bit I figured I would post 
here just to be sure.


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Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite

[Sean T. Murray]

Looks like Silica Metal.  I have something like that myself. Man made 
byproduct of smelting... I found some in the woods when I was 8 or 9 - kept 
it as my "first meteorite" and still have it on the shelf - good example of 
a wrong to show people...


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Sean.

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A friend of mine who lives in Germany was given this and was told it was a 
meteorite.




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[meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite

[David & Kitt Deyarmin]

A friend of mine who lives in Germany was given this and was told it was a 
meteorite.




http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Meteorites/Markus.jpg


I told him I didn't recognize it as a meteorite bit I figured I would post 
here just to be sure.


Does anyone know what this is?

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Re-2: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite ?

[bernd . pauli]

Hello Ingo, Confrère Pierre, and List,

> I've seen a lot of weathered rocks like this in Namibia (mostly
> lime-stones). But I wouldn't expect this sort of weathering in France. To
> check it out put a little drop of acid (HCl 10% or less) on the surface.
> Make sure, that there is no dirt on the surface of the rock (could contain
> lime). If you see bubbles, it's limestone. Meteorites and HCl would't show
> a reaction. Ingo

.. or just cut it and look what's inside!

Best regards,

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Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite ?

[Ingo Herkstroeter]

>Hi Listees!

I´ve seen a lot of weathered rocks like this in Namibia (mostly
lime-stones). But I wouldn´t expect this sort of weathering in France. To
check it out put a little drop of acid (HCl 10% or less) on the surface.
Make sure, that there is no dirt on the surface of the rock (could contain
lime). If you see bubbles, it´s limestone. Meteorites and HCl would´t show a
reaktion.

Ingo 

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> 
> Hello to the List,
> 
> Someone asked me to show this discovery in a field
> somewhere in France...
> 
> http://www.meteor-center.com/000_0334.jpg
> 
> It looks like a meteorite but it isn't magnetic (or
> lightly).
> 
> What is your opinion ?
> 
> Best regards,
> 
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> 
> 
>   
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Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite ?

[M come Meteorite Meteorites]

mmmfor me is not a meteorite

Matteo

--- Pelé Pierre-Marie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha
scritto: 

> Hello to the List,
> 
> Someone asked me to show this discovery in a field
> somewhere in France...
> 
> http://www.meteor-center.com/000_0334.jpg
> 
> It looks like a meteorite but it isn't magnetic (or
> lightly).
> 
> What is your opinion ?
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Pierre-Marie PELE
> www.meteor-center.com
> 
> 
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> 
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[meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite ?

[Pelé Pierre-Marie]

Hello to the List,

Someone asked me to show this discovery in a field
somewhere in France...

http://www.meteor-center.com/000_0334.jpg

It looks like a meteorite but it isn't magnetic (or
lightly).

What is your opinion ?

Best regards,

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Re: [meteorite-list] is this a meteorite?

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>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=6512841185&rd=1
> > Thanks, Tom
> > peregrineflier <><
> > IMCA 6168
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I missed this one.
For sure this specimen isn't Zaklodzie. Also for me this is not meteorite at
all.

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Re: [meteorite-list] is this a meteorite?

[Martin Altmann]

Separate from this stone being no meteorite,
the mentioned local newspaper article referred to, describes probably the
fall of Zaklodzie (30 miles away from Lublin) in the night of April 21 in
1897 - bright bolide, longlasting thunders, trembling windows & ground, just
in that area, where later the single stone of Zaklodzie was found.
(Btw: I still have budget pieces of this rare enstatite achondrite, small
slices, most polished, 0.8-2 grams - 50$ per gram, which is very affordable
for Zaklodzie of that size, compare).

Buckleboo!
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Re: Fw: [meteorite-list] is this a meteorite?

[Tom Knudson]

"Remember, you are one that originally started the BS about Delray Godess. 
We all know how that backfired and YOU never did give her an apology."

I did not start any crap, I just thought her sculptured meteorite was a good 
idea, it sold for a small fortune!  Some other list members started saying 
it was fishy, check the archives before you get on my case!!!  And she is 
not a list member, so an apology to her on the list would be a waste of 
bandwidth, again, you should quite getting on my case, with out checking the 
facts, ask her, I apologized for my part and she accepted, so LAY OFF!!!

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Hey Proud Tom.
How about giving it a rest.  If you want to be an ebay cop, send ebay a 
resume.

I, for one, am getting tired of your posts of ebay wrongs, blurred photos, 
and assorted BS.

Remember, you are one that originally started the BS about Delray Godess. 
We all know how that backfired and YOU never did give her an apology.

Randy

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Re: Fw: [meteorite-list] is this a meteorite?

[Tom Knudson]

"Remember, you are one that originally started the BS about Delray Godess.
We all know how that backfired and YOU never did give her an apology."
I did not start any crap, I just thought her sculptured meteorite was a good
idea, it sold for a small fortune!  Some other list members started saying
it was fishy, check the archives before you get on my case!!!  And she is
not a list member, so an apology to her on the list would be a waste of
bandwidth, again, you should quite getting on my case, with out checking the
facts, ask her, I apologized for my part and she accepted, so LAY OFF!!!
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Hey Proud Tom.
How about giving it a rest.  If you want to be an ebay cop, send ebay a 
resume.

I, for one, am getting tired of your posts of ebay wrongs, blurred photos, 
and assorted BS.

Remember, you are one that originally started the BS about Delray Godess. 
We all know how that backfired and YOU never did give her an apology.

Randy

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RE: Fw: [meteorite-list] is this a meteorite?

[JKGwilliam]

Tom,
First of all, thanks to Randy for standing up and saying something.
Secondly, Tom, many of us have asked you nicely in the past to stop your 
ebay sleuth thingy.

I'm sure no one else has changed their mind about thatI know I haven't.
So, stop it.
John
At 04:49 PM 2/16/2005, Randy Mils wrote:
Hey Proud Tom.
How about giving it a rest.  If you want to be an ebay cop, send ebay a 
resume.

I, for one, am getting tired of your posts of ebay wrongs, blurred photos, 
and assorted BS.

Remember, you are one that originally started the BS about Delray 
Godess.  We all know how that backfired and YOU never did give her an apology.

Randy
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RE: Fw: [meteorite-list] is this a meteorite?

[Randy Mils]

Hey Proud Tom.
How about giving it a rest.  If you want to be an ebay cop, send ebay a resume.  
I, for one, am getting tired of your posts of ebay wrongs, blurred photos, and assorted BS.
Remember, you are one that originally started the BS about Delray Godess.  We all know how that backfired and YOU never did give her an apology.
Randy

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Re: [meteorite-list] is this a meteorite?

[Grant L. Elliott]

Looks like a piece of Baltic Amber to me-
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Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite or just a wierd rock? foundary plug

[E. L. Jones]

Hello David,

For all my experience in researching old mines and old furnaces, it is
trough plug from a foundry operation. 

Some foundries,  especially older ones that didn't have overhead cranes
and large crucibles have channels in the floor from the furnace to a
bank(tree) of molds.  The molten metal was released into any of several
brick, sand, or clay-lined channels at the the "tapping hearth" and
flowed out into the castting floor/ house/ room to the ingot molds
(pigs)*. Slag was drawn off first. Not to be confused with furnice
plugs or taps which were ceramic clay and broken to release the molten
slag or metal, these plugs stemmed from an overflow in the channel and
had to be cleared when cooled. If they "graded in" they went back into
the next charge if they "graded out" they were tossed or sold to
shipping lines to be used as ballast on ships. This is about the right
width and shape in cross section for a typical channel although it
could have been from a pig which graded out.  The top to bottom zoning
suggests a plug. 

 The reason it looks like a loaf of bread on top is that metal tends to
be highly cohesive and has a convex(rounded) meniscus. In case anyone
ever runs across metal "cow patties"-- these are another foundry
artifact and are splash forms which actually splattered when being
poured. I don't remember what they were nicknamed. I frequently find
them in old railroad right of ways.

Your item is possibly high in zinc, as there is little oxidation,
and/or "pot metal", which is a low
grade assemblage of whatever came into the reclamation pile that month,
or slag residue. Slag is a generic term but usually contains more
silica/
glass than metal-usually no free metal.  This section appears to be
more metal than
slag/glass.

 99% certain it is not  a meteorite and it would take a long time to
point out all the reason's why.  Keep looking at photos enough and it
will make more sense.   If you read the descriptions now in use as to
what is or isn't a meteorite just about anything can "look" like a
meteorite.  At least photos can help screen some items.

Regards,
Elton
*  Tradition says the the term "pig" came from the arrangement of the
ingot molds off the channel,  which reminded the smelters of a sow pig
nursing a litter and is the origin of the term "pig iron".

David Hathaway wrote:

  
  
  
  I found this out of place rock in
the South-Eastern Oregon desert a couple months ago. It is very heavy
and has an extremely weak but present attraction to magnet. It doesn't
look like any of the meteorites I've seen but the magnetic attraction
and the rounded surface crust make me wonder. What do you think?
   
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Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite or just a wierd rock?

[Mark Jackson]

David,
 
Get a coffee cup out that has a white, unglazed mating ring on the bottom. Rub the rock vigorously along the ring (or vice versa may be easier) and check the color of the streak left by the rock; it is one of the geologist's standard field tests and is called, oddly enough, the streak of the mineral tested. One of the most common meteorwrongs is hematite which has a reddish-brown streak along with magnetite with its' black streak. Meteorites almost universally (highly weathered ones may leave a faint one) leave no streak at all. I recently got hornswaggled by a hydrothermal deposit of hematite with accessory magnetite and silicates mixed in for good measure. Another one of hematite's main properties is its weak magnetic signature, but this stuff was rather strong magnetically, a property lent by the magnetite. I'd be willing to bet your rock will streak reddish and the weak magnet signature will tell you hematite has been found, but
 I'm no expert so be sure to find one if there's a question. Good luck and keep searching!Mark Jackson
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[meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite or just a wierd rock? foundary plug]

[E. L. Jones]

Hello David,

For all my experience in researching old mines and old furnaces, it is 
trough plug from a foundry operation.

Some foundries,  especially older ones that didn't have overhead cranes 
and large crucibles have channels in the floor from the furnace to a 
bank(tree) of molds.  The molten metal was released into any of several 
brick, sand, or clay-lined channels at the the "tapping hearth" and 
flowed out into the castting floor/ house/ room to the ingot molds 
(pigs)*. Slag was drawn off first. Not to be confused with furnice plugs 
or taps which were ceramic clay and broken to release the molten slag or 
metal, these plugs stemmed from an overflow in the channel and had to be 
cleared when cooled. If they "graded in" they went back into the next 
charge if they "graded out" they were tossed or sold to shipping lines 
to be used as ballast on ships. This is about the right width and shape 
in cross section for a typical channel although it could have been from 
a pig which graded out.  The top to bottom zoning suggests a plug.

The reason it looks like a loaf of bread on top is that metal tends to 
be highly cohesive and has a convex(rounded) meniscus. In case anyone 
ever runs across metal "cow patties"-- these are another foundry 
artifact and are splash forms which actually splattered when being 
poured. I don't remember what they were nicknamed. I frequently find 
them in old railroad right of ways.

Your item is possibly high in zinc, as there is little oxidation, and/or 
"pot metal", which is a low grade assemblage of whatever came into the 
reclamation pile that month, or slag residue. Slag is a generic term but 
usually contains more silica/ glass than metal-usually no free metal.  
This section appears to be more metal than slag/glass.

99% certain it is not  a meteorite and it would take a long time to 
point out all the reason's why.  Keep looking at photos enough and it 
will make more sense.   If you read the descriptions now in use as to 
what is or isn't a meteorite just about anything can "look" like a 
meteorite.  At least photos can help screen some items.

Regards,
Elton
*  Tradition says the the term "pig" came from the arrangement of the 
ingot molds off the channel,  which reminded the smelters of a sow pig 
nursing a litter and is the origin of the term "pig iron".

David Hathaway wrote:

I found this out of place rock in the South-Eastern Oregon desert a 
couple months ago. It is very heavy and has an extremely weak but 
present attraction to magnet. It doesn't look like any of the 
meteorites I've seen but the magnetic attraction and the 
rounded surface crust make me wonder. What do you think?
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite or just a wierd rock?

[David Hathaway]

Thanks for your help everyone.. Here are the answers to various questions I
received. Looks like the going opinion is that is just a rock though.

Q: Does yours streak black?  (And I mean REALLY black.)
A: Does not streak at all. Very hard rock.

Q: See if you can estimate its density.
A: Not sure how to estimate a density but it is one of the densest I have
come across.

Q: My first guess is some sort of slag, but it could be natural too.
A: Definitely not man-made, this was in the middle of nowhere (discovered it
while hunting). There are few towns in that part of the state and the only
industry I am aware of is cattle.

Q: Any rail road with in 10 miles?
A: Nope

Q: That face looks like zinc or lead.
A: Don't know a the qualities of zinc but I can say for certain it is not
lead.


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I found this out of place rock in the South-Eastern Oregon desert a couple
months ago. It is very heavy and has an extremely weak but present
attraction to magnet. It doesn't look like any of the meteorites I've seen
but the magnetic attraction and the rounded surface crust make me wonder.
What do you think?



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Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite or just a wierd rock?

[David Freeman]

Dear David;
My guess is slag due to the crystalline structure on the end.  Being 
lightly attracted to a magnet rules out magnetite that would also be on 
the short list. Any rail road with in 10 miles?
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David Hathaway wrote:

I found this out of place rock in the South-Eastern Oregon desert a 
couple months ago. It is very heavy and has an extremely weak but 
present attraction to magnet. It doesn't look like any of the 
meteorites I've seen but the magnetic attraction and the 
rounded surface crust make me wonder. What do you think?

 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite or just a wierd rock?

[joseph_town]

That's pretty neat. I just wonder why it has such sharp features on it's face 
after lieing out in the weather. That face looks like zinc or lead. Please 
cut me some slack! I hazard a guess and reveal my ignorance only to avoid 
being labeled as a lurker,

Thanks,
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[joseph_town]

That's pretty neat. I just wonder why it has such sharp features on it's face 
after lieing out in the weather. That face looks like zinc or lead. Please 
cut me some slack! I hazard a guess and reveal my ignorance only to avoid 
being labeled as a lurker,

Thanks,
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[meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite or just a wierd rock?

[David Hathaway]

I found this out of place rock in the South-Eastern 
Oregon desert a couple months ago. It is very heavy and has an extremely weak 
but present attraction to magnet. It doesn't look like any of the meteorites 
I've seen but the magnetic attraction and the rounded surface crust 
make me wonder. What do you think?
 
www.peak.org/~dhathaway/maybe.htm

[meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite?

[Rafael Blando Torres]

Hello List, do I have a meteorite?...Its bluish to black, its strongly 
attracted to a magnet and it seems to have flow lines and thumbprints, also 
it has rounded edges, but Im not sure, any suggestions?: Here is the link

(*Note: There is a mistake in the photos. The first one is the suspected 
one, and the other is a Sikhote-Alin, sorry)

*Note: The suspected flow lines appear in the photo

http://www.geocities.com/rafael_blando/2.html

Also the story of how I got it its there. The problem is that I dont want to 
cut it, because its small and I want it complete.


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Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite????

[Martin Horejsi]

My guess, a classic example of hemitite, var. mammary.

One of the most common meteorwrongs. Usually not magnetic in the least.

Next?

Martin



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> 
> This was found in Wyandot County Ohio in May of 2001
> and was sent to me by a John Ward.
> The stone in question has NO magnet attraction. Due to
> it?s oriented shape color and texture of other
> meteorites I have seen I did not want to declare this
> not a meteorite when in fact it could well be. Each
> side of this stone is very smooth including the front
> that has a nipple then a ring around the base of the
> nipple.Their are no sharp cuts etc. The stone is no
> bigger than a quarter yet weighs more than it should
> for it?s size. He found the stone buried with ? of
> it?s mass in the ground and just the end sticking out.
> The problem is if I break this thing up I would
> destroy it?s unique beauty. Since their would be no
> metal inside a nickel test would be inclusive. If
> anyone has any idea what this could be or where it can
> be sent for testing let me know.Image avaible at
> 
> http://206.25.226.2/~nickt/rmeteorpicture.htm
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Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite????

[John Gwilliam]

To me, it looks like limonite.

John

At 07:26 AM 2/19/02 -0800, Dave Mouat wrote:
>do they have slag in Wyandot Co.?
>
>Rick Nowak wrote:
>
> > This was found in Wyandot County Ohio in May of 2001
> > and was sent to me by a John Ward.
> > The stone in question has NO magnet attraction. Due to
> > it’s oriented shape color and texture of other
> > meteorites I have seen I did not want to declare this
> > not a meteorite when in fact it could well be. Each
> > side of this stone is very smooth including the front
> > that has a nipple then a ring around the base of the
> > nipple.Their are no sharp cuts etc. The stone is no
> > bigger than a quarter yet weighs more than it should
> > for it’s size. He found the stone buried with ¾ of
> > it’s mass in the ground and just the end sticking out.
> > The problem is if I break this thing up I would
> > destroy it’s unique beauty. Since their would be no
> > metal inside a nickel test would be inclusive. If
> > anyone has any idea what this could be or where it can
> > be sent for testing let me know.Image avaible at
> >
> > http://206.25.226.2/~nickt/rmeteorpicture.htm
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Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite????

[Dave Mouat]

do they have slag in Wyandot Co.?

Rick Nowak wrote:

> This was found in Wyandot County Ohio in May of 2001
> and was sent to me by a John Ward.
> The stone in question has NO magnet attraction. Due to
> it’s oriented shape color and texture of other
> meteorites I have seen I did not want to declare this
> not a meteorite when in fact it could well be. Each
> side of this stone is very smooth including the front
> that has a nipple then a ring around the base of the
> nipple.Their are no sharp cuts etc. The stone is no
> bigger than a quarter yet weighs more than it should
> for it’s size. He found the stone buried with ¾ of
> it’s mass in the ground and just the end sticking out.
> The problem is if I break this thing up I would
> destroy it’s unique beauty. Since their would be no
> metal inside a nickel test would be inclusive. If
> anyone has any idea what this could be or where it can
> be sent for testing let me know.Image avaible at
>
> http://206.25.226.2/~nickt/rmeteorpicture.htm
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[Rick Nowak]

This was found in Wyandot County Ohio in May of 2001
and was sent to me by a John Ward.
The stone in question has NO magnet attraction. Due to
it’s oriented shape color and texture of other
meteorites I have seen I did not want to declare this
not a meteorite when in fact it could well be. Each
side of this stone is very smooth including the front
that has a nipple then a ring around the base of the
nipple.Their are no sharp cuts etc. The stone is no
bigger than a quarter yet weighs more than it should
for it’s size. He found the stone buried with ¾ of
it’s mass in the ground and just the end sticking out.
The problem is if I break this thing up I would
destroy it’s unique beauty. Since their would be no
metal inside a nickel test would be inclusive. If
anyone has any idea what this could be or where it can
be sent for testing let me know.Image avaible at 

http://206.25.226.2/~nickt/rmeteorpicture.htm

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