Re: [Mimedefang] Which is worse?

2005-11-29 Thread Aleksandar Milivojevic

Dave Williss wrote:

I think to myself... If I go out of my way to block spam, I'm probably 
NOT going
to be inclined to buy anything from a spammer anyway.  So why do they 
bother?


Spam is usually blocked by sysadmins.  They are attempting to bypass 
that and reach end users that might be inclined to click on the message. 
 It's like those "no soliciting" signs on doors (on both private 
properties and bussinesses).  From time to time you get uninvited 
salesman ignoring the sign, trying out his luck.  Anyhow, it doesn't 
cost a thing, so why not try it.

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Re: [Mimedefang] Which is worse?

2005-11-29 Thread Ben Kamen

Jan Pieter Cornet wrote:

On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 03:59:10PM -0700, Ben Kamen wrote:

I was mousing over it to point it out to my friend and noticed the cursor 
didn't change... i.e. the  tag was missing or malformed...


So we laughed.



But have you tried it with the most common configuration? Probably
a badly patched WinXP using outlook or outlook express, with all security
settings to "pwn me n0w!" (err... "low" in MS-speak).

Maybe it had a  tag which would actually put a href on the image?


HELLO! FireFox/Thunderbird User here. 


;)

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Re: [Mimedefang] Which is worse?

2005-11-29 Thread Jan Pieter Cornet
On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 03:59:10PM -0700, Ben Kamen wrote:
> I was mousing over it to point it out to my friend and noticed the cursor 
> didn't change... i.e. the  tag was missing or malformed...
> 
> So we laughed.

But have you tried it with the most common configuration? Probably
a badly patched WinXP using outlook or outlook express, with all security
settings to "pwn me n0w!" (err... "low" in MS-speak).

Maybe it had a  tag which would actually put a href on the image?

-- 
#!perl -wpl # mmfppfmpmmpp mmpffm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
$p=3-2*/[^\W\dmpf_]/i;s.[a-z]{$p}.vec($f=join('',$p-1?chr(sub{$_[0]*9+$_[1]*3+
$_[2]}->(map{/p|f/i+/f/i}split//,$&)+97):qw(m p f)[map{((ord$&)%32-1)/$_%3}(9,
3,1)]),5,1)='`'lt$&;$f.eig;# Jan-Pieter Cornet
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Re: [Mimedefang] Which is worse?

2005-11-29 Thread Ben Kamen

Dave Williss wrote:


The one I've been seeing lately is a big text of jargon with an .jpg 
of a topless lady with a stud in the backround
that says in the image "She's dreaming about a strong man... click to 
find out more" and you can't click it!



U And you tried to click on the image... why?  :-)



I was mousing over it to point it out to my friend and noticed the cursor didn't change... i.e. 
the  tag was missing or malformed...

So we laughed.

then I clicked delete.

-Ben
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Re: [Mimedefang] Which is worse?

2005-11-29 Thread Dave Williss
- Original Message - 
From: "Ben Kamen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 12:42 PM
Subject: [Mimedefang] Which is worse?

[snip]

The one I've been seeing lately is a big text of jargon with an .jpg of a 
topless lady with a stud in the backround
that says in the image "She's dreaming about a strong man... click to find 
out more" and you can't click it!


U And you tried to click on the image... why?  :-)

So with all that effort while sending emails which probably violate most 
companies internal HR policy on explicit material in the workplace and the 
idiot spammers can't even

get the HTML part right so the image is clickable!!

I see these and think to myself, "and there was doubt these folks are 
morons?"


I think to myself... If I go out of my way to block spam, I'm probably NOT 
going
to be inclined to buy anything from a spammer anyway.  So why do they 
bother? 


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[Mimedefang] Which is worse?

2005-11-29 Thread Ben Kamen
These spammers go through all this trouble to send us this crap... 


The bayesian poisoning.
The images with the message.
Inviso-type...
the list goes on...


The one I've been seeing lately is a big text of jargon with an .jpg of a 
topless lady with a stud in the backround
that says in the image "She's dreaming about a strong man... click to find out 
more" and you can't click it!

So with all that effort while sending emails which probably violate most companies 
internal HR policy on explicit material in the workplace and the idiot spammers can't even

get the HTML part right so the image is clickable!!

I see these and think to myself, "and there was doubt these folks are morons?"

(ok, you can all laugh now)

-Ben
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