Re: Price of Unix
Searched on Google and found this: ftp://cm.bell-labs.com/who/dmr/licenses.html On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Danny dannydeb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, (A little off-topic) I am due to give a little computer history talk at our local high school. Can anyone remember how much ATT, Berkeley, SystemV or any other UNIX flavour cost in the 70's and 80's? Thank You Danny
Re: Price of Unix
Thank you. On Jun 10 14, Dorian H. : To: PPC Miscellaneous Discussions misc@openbsd.org Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 12:29:05 +0200 From: Dorian H. doj...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Price of Unix X-Loop: misc@openbsd.org Searched on Google and found this: ftp://cm.bell-labs.com/who/dmr/licenses.html On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Danny dannydeb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, (A little off-topic) I am due to give a little computer history talk at our local high school. Can anyone remember how much ATT, Berkeley, SystemV or any other UNIX flavour cost in the 70's and 80's? Thank You Danny
Re: Price of Unix
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:29:05PM +0200, Dorian H. wrote: Searched on Google and found this: ftp://cm.bell-labs.com/who/dmr/licenses.html Found that one too. You should be able to scare the daylights out of them with this list in particular: ftp://cm.bell-labs.com/who/dmr/licenses/pricelist84.pdf UNIX System V, Release 2.0, Source Code (1) .. $43,000.00 Each Additional CPU .. $16,000.00 And so on.. :-) On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Danny dannydeb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, (A little off-topic) I am due to give a little computer history talk at our local high school. Can anyone remember how much ATT, Berkeley, SystemV or any other UNIX flavour cost in the 70's and 80's? Thank You Danny
Re: Price of Unix
On 06/10/14 06:48, Erling Westenvik wrote: On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:29:05PM +0200, Dorian H. wrote: Searched on Google and found this: ftp://cm.bell-labs.com/who/dmr/licenses.html Found that one too. You should be able to scare the daylights out of them with this list in particular: ftp://cm.bell-labs.com/who/dmr/licenses/pricelist84.pdf UNIX System V, Release 2.0, Source Code (1) .. $43,000.00 Each Additional CPU .. $16,000.00 And so on.. :-) OpenBSD: Unix, now more than 99.8% off!! AND free additional CPUs! What a deal! Go buy a cd set now! Nick.
Re: Price of Unix
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014, Nick Holland wrote: UNIX System V, Release 2.0, Source Code (1) .. $43,000.00 Each Additional CPU .. $16,000.00 And so on.. :-) OpenBSD: Unix, now more than 99.8% off!! AND free additional CPUs! What a deal! Go buy a cd set now! It's an unfair advertisment. You are trying to conceal that the buyer will get by at least 99.8% less bugs. Regards, David
Re: Price of Unix
previously on this list Nick Holland contributed: ftp://cm.bell-labs.com/who/dmr/licenses/pricelist84.pdf UNIX System V, Release 2.0, Source Code (1) .. $43,000.00 Each Additional CPU .. $16,000.00 And so on.. :-) When this history comes up I wonder that in order to avoid legal issues the remaining unchanged and I guess some core parts were re-written at Berkeley and so were all the changes good and could/should? any of the ATT original code be re-considered today if any legal threat has subsided/expired? Of course things being built upon them may carry much more weight. -- ___ 'Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a universal interface' (Doug McIlroy) In Other Words - Don't design like polkit or systemd ___
Re: Price of Unix
Kevin Chadwick wrote: previously on this list Nick Holland contributed: ftp://cm.bell-labs.com/who/dmr/licenses/pricelist84.pdf UNIX System V, Release 2.0, Source Code (1) .. $43,000.00 Each Additional CPU .. $16,000.00 And so on.. :-) When this history comes up I wonder that in order to avoid legal issues the remaining unchanged and I guess some core parts were re-written at Berkeley and so were all the changes good and could/should? any of the ATT original code be re-considered today if any legal threat has subsided/expired? Of course things being built upon them may carry much more weight. I don't see why you think the legal threat expired. *someone* still holds the old unix copyrights; they're probably not expiring in the lifetime of anyone on this list. http://www.avast.com
Re: Price of Unix
the old unix copyrights; they're probably not expiring in the lifetime of anyone on this list. You obviously don't know me. -- Antoine
Re: Price of Unix
Of course you realize all the prices on that page were for universities. The prices they charged businesses was *MUCH* higher. What those prices were I don't know. I was only selling PC's, Dos software and Novell software back then (late 80's early 90's). For that the prices ranged from around a thousand for a single PC with POS software to 10's of thousands of dollars for multiple networked PC's. I don't know, but I bet what we were charging was a pittance compared to the cost of commercial UNIX installations. The last UNIX box I had any part of purchasing was an eight CPU DEC machine that cost around $500,000. But that was around 2002. On Tue, Jun 10, 2014, at 06:42 AM, Danny wrote: Thank you. On Jun 10 14, Dorian H. : To: PPC Miscellaneous Discussions misc@openbsd.org Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 12:29:05 +0200 From: Dorian H. doj...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Price of Unix X-Loop: misc@openbsd.org Searched on Google and found this: ftp://cm.bell-labs.com/who/dmr/licenses.html On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Danny dannydeb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, (A little off-topic) I am due to give a little computer history talk at our local high school. Can anyone remember how much ATT, Berkeley, SystemV or any other UNIX flavour cost in the 70's and 80's? Thank You Danny