[WikimediaMobile] feedback about random

2014-09-17 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
[Was: iOS app feedback (via testflight)‏]

When I first saw the Random article in Wikipedia bask in 2004 or so, I
immediately though - Right, they probably added because they wanted it to
look like an old-school paper encyclopedia that you can open randomly.

I guess that it's not clear to all people.

If I recall correctly, that button was added because there were requests
for it, but was its existence ever justified? If there's interesting data
about using the random button, a blog post could be published about it
that would serve as the rationale for keeping the functionality. For
example, that it gets people to read and click more links and maybe become
editors.

Also, it could be relabeled as something more fun without using the word
random, which is a tad technical. The first thing that comes to my mind
is I just want to read something.


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2014-09-17 3:48 GMT+03:00 Monte Hurd mh...@wikimedia.org:

 We received the following feedback email through testflight:


 Hi, I already tested your latest updates in Wikipedia 4.0.2, and I want to
 give you some feedbacks :

 1.) If I want to see my previous article or my next article, I don't need
 to press the back () button or forward () button. Instead, I can swipe my
 finger from the left or right side of the display. (For example, the
 navigation gesture in Safari)

 2.) When I want to delete my saved page, the animation is a bit late.

 3.) The Random button in the sidebar. Actually, I don't understand why
 it was made. Because, someone who opens Wikipedia, must be know what he/she
 looking for. So, I want to suggest to delete the Random button (*if you
 don't mind)

 That's all I want to say. And I hope to see another beta updates. Thank
 you.


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Re: [WikimediaMobile] Pulling the Commons app

2014-09-17 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 13:32 -0700, Brion Vibber wrote:
 Ok, I've killed the iOS version as well.

There's a Commons App product in bugzilla.wikimedia.org with 213
tickets, 82 of them open.
There is also an Unofficial Apps product in Bugzilla:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/describecomponents.cgi?product=Unofficial%20Apps

What would you like to see happen in Bugzilla? Move tickets from
'Commons App' to a new component under 'Unofficial'? All lowest
priority? Should Brion really be default assignee for all those
'Unofficial' tickets?

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Re: [WikimediaMobile] feedback about random

2014-09-17 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Amir E. Aharoni, 17/09/2014 08:22:
 If I recall correctly, that button was added because there were requests
 for it, but was its existence ever justified? If there's interesting
 data about using the random button,

http://stats.grok.se/en/latest30/Special:Random
Do you really need more?

Nemo

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Re: [WikimediaMobile] feedback about random

2014-09-17 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Amir E. Aharoni, 17/09/2014 10:05:
 WAT.
 
 Are these millions and millions of real people clicking Random article
 all the time? Not search engines or bots or something?

I have no reason to believe it's an especially inflated number:
Special:Random is the most common tool for curious users in search of
something to read or edit, together with watchlist (which anons don't
have) and recent changes. Disbelievers can do some appreciated
additional research though. :-)

 
 Do taps on Random article in the apps count as hits to Special:Random?

Not for stats.grok.se, for sure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Killiondude/stats#What_about_mobile.3F

Nemo

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[WikimediaMobile] Wikipedia App (iOS) beta tester numbers and feedback

2014-09-17 Thread Monte Hurd
In the last 2 days we went from 110 signups to 336!

Of these, 143 people have actually installed the latest beta, up from a
previous high of 20.

I've also received multiple feedback emails through the testflight system.

Dan, I've added you as a leader in testflight so hopefully these feedback
emails will go to you as well. Is this ok?



Other thoughts on where to forward feedback email? In the mean time, here's
the feedback from yesterday:


-


I went to Article History and tried to click on an article Editor's name to
see articles they have also edited, and this functionality is not yet there.

I have no understandable way to Mark an article for watching (for web WP
usage) - will this be implemented?

I also do not see articles i am already watching from The web WP

Are These saved for offline use articles somehow saved to web WP?

I think the top-right article summary button could show The amount of
languages The article is available in and allow to choose when 26 other
languages is tapped, f.ex.

Editing a segment of an article could allow for a toolbar above The editor,
having The usual set of functionality or a subset of them (link with text,
bold, list, reference generation)

Tapping on this:
↑ a b Yle, uutiset viitat
(Am referring to a and b) should modify Back-button functionality so that
can get back to references by tapping on Back.
Also, i am seeing hugely garbled text pasted now, see attached screenshot

I.e. Would be nice to get a non-formatted copy-to-clipboard out of WP

Share button on lower-right could have AirPrint? Hmm.

I will attach two crashlogs that occurred while searching for a WP article
in the next Mail.

Sent from some iDevice. Written by Esa.





Great update,

Can i translate the app into arabic language ?

Feras Younis Qrinawi





Hey I have the TestFlight iOS 8 app how could I transfer the Wikipedia App
inside the TestFlight App?





Just from using this to view 2 articles, Infobox placement is a bit
problematic. On an iPod 5, the page Carboxynorspermidine decarboxylase is
split up by the Infobox; half the equation seems to be on either side of it.


(Note: ^ this last one is from the previous beta)
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Re: [WikimediaMobile] Wikipedia App (iOS) beta tester numbers and feedback

2014-09-17 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
 Great update,
 Can i translate the app into arabic language ?
 Feras Younis Qrinawi

He-he, a couple of years ago I was the crazy guy who read much of the
copious feedback about the old apps. I received several questions like this
one, and I used it as an opportunity to acquire several new translatewiki
translators, and it actually worked in a few cases.

If it's possible to reply, the link for translation is this:
https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:Translate?filter=action=translategroup=out-wikimedia-mobile-wikipedia-ios-0-alllanguage=ar

(For other languages just change the language code in the end, but first
make sure that iOS actually supports this language.)

A translatewiki.net account must be create through the
https://translatewiki.net/ main page first. I am available for more
assistance.

And of course the About page in the iOS app should have a link to
translatewiki, like the Android app [
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70946 ].


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I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬

2014-09-17 20:07 GMT+03:00 Monte Hurd mh...@wikimedia.org:

 In the last 2 days we went from 110 signups to 336!

 Of these, 143 people have actually installed the latest beta, up from a
 previous high of 20.

 I've also received multiple feedback emails through the testflight system.

 Dan, I've added you as a leader in testflight so hopefully these
 feedback emails will go to you as well. Is this ok?



 Other thoughts on where to forward feedback email? In the mean time,
 here's the feedback from yesterday:


 -


 I went to Article History and tried to click on an article Editor's name
 to see articles they have also edited, and this functionality is not yet
 there.

 I have no understandable way to Mark an article for watching (for web WP
 usage) - will this be implemented?

 I also do not see articles i am already watching from The web WP

 Are These saved for offline use articles somehow saved to web WP?

 I think the top-right article summary button could show The amount of
 languages The article is available in and allow to choose when 26 other
 languages is tapped, f.ex.

 Editing a segment of an article could allow for a toolbar above The
 editor, having The usual set of functionality or a subset of them (link
 with text, bold, list, reference generation)

 Tapping on this:
 ↑ a b Yle, uutiset viitat
 (Am referring to a and b) should modify Back-button functionality so that
 can get back to references by tapping on Back.
 Also, i am seeing hugely garbled text pasted now, see attached screenshot

 I.e. Would be nice to get a non-formatted copy-to-clipboard out of WP

 Share button on lower-right could have AirPrint? Hmm.

 I will attach two crashlogs that occurred while searching for a WP article
 in the next Mail.

 Sent from some iDevice. Written by Esa.


 


 Great update,

 Can i translate the app into arabic language ?

 Feras Younis Qrinawi


 


 Hey I have the TestFlight iOS 8 app how could I transfer the Wikipedia App
 inside the TestFlight App?


 


 Just from using this to view 2 articles, Infobox placement is a bit
 problematic. On an iPod 5, the page Carboxynorspermidine decarboxylase is
 split up by the Infobox; half the equation seems to be on either side of it.


 (Note: ^ this last one is from the previous beta)




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Re: [WikimediaMobile] Wikipedia App (iOS) beta tester numbers and feedback

2014-09-17 Thread Monte Hurd
Thanks Amir! I will forward the info!

On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Amir E. Aharoni 
amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:

  Great update,
  Can i translate the app into arabic language ?
  Feras Younis Qrinawi

 He-he, a couple of years ago I was the crazy guy who read much of the
 copious feedback about the old apps. I received several questions like this
 one, and I used it as an opportunity to acquire several new translatewiki
 translators, and it actually worked in a few cases.

 If it's possible to reply, the link for translation is this:

 https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:Translate?filter=action=translategroup=out-wikimedia-mobile-wikipedia-ios-0-alllanguage=ar

 (For other languages just change the language code in the end, but first
 make sure that iOS actually supports this language.)

 A translatewiki.net account must be create through the
 https://translatewiki.net/ main page first. I am available for more
 assistance.

 And of course the About page in the iOS app should have a link to
 translatewiki, like the Android app [
 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70946 ].


 --
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 http://aharoni.wordpress.com
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 I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬

 2014-09-17 20:07 GMT+03:00 Monte Hurd mh...@wikimedia.org:

 In the last 2 days we went from 110 signups to 336!

 Of these, 143 people have actually installed the latest beta, up from a
 previous high of 20.

 I've also received multiple feedback emails through the testflight system.

 Dan, I've added you as a leader in testflight so hopefully these
 feedback emails will go to you as well. Is this ok?



 Other thoughts on where to forward feedback email? In the mean time,
 here's the feedback from yesterday:


 -


 I went to Article History and tried to click on an article Editor's name
 to see articles they have also edited, and this functionality is not yet
 there.

 I have no understandable way to Mark an article for watching (for web WP
 usage) - will this be implemented?

 I also do not see articles i am already watching from The web WP

 Are These saved for offline use articles somehow saved to web WP?

 I think the top-right article summary button could show The amount of
 languages The article is available in and allow to choose when 26 other
 languages is tapped, f.ex.

 Editing a segment of an article could allow for a toolbar above The
 editor, having The usual set of functionality or a subset of them (link
 with text, bold, list, reference generation)

 Tapping on this:
 ↑ a b Yle, uutiset viitat
 (Am referring to a and b) should modify Back-button functionality so that
 can get back to references by tapping on Back.
 Also, i am seeing hugely garbled text pasted now, see attached screenshot

 I.e. Would be nice to get a non-formatted copy-to-clipboard out of WP

 Share button on lower-right could have AirPrint? Hmm.

 I will attach two crashlogs that occurred while searching for a WP
 article in the next Mail.

 Sent from some iDevice. Written by Esa.


 


 Great update,

 Can i translate the app into arabic language ?

 Feras Younis Qrinawi


 


 Hey I have the TestFlight iOS 8 app how could I transfer the Wikipedia
 App inside the TestFlight App?


 


 Just from using this to view 2 articles, Infobox placement is a bit
 problematic. On an iPod 5, the page Carboxynorspermidine decarboxylase is
 split up by the Infobox; half the equation seems to be on either side of it.


 (Note: ^ this last one is from the previous beta)




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Re: [WikimediaMobile] Wikipedia App (iOS) beta tester numbers and feedback

2014-09-17 Thread Luis Villa
Friendly reminder - people probably assume that this feedback is
private[1]; try to crop out their names before posting their feedback
publicly.

Luis

[1] And I am curious about the TestFlight privacy policy, which is
currently 404: https://testflightapp.com/privacy/

On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Monte Hurd mh...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 In the last 2 days we went from 110 signups to 336!

 Of these, 143 people have actually installed the latest beta, up from a
 previous high of 20.

 I've also received multiple feedback emails through the testflight system.

 Dan, I've added you as a leader in testflight so hopefully these
 feedback emails will go to you as well. Is this ok?



 Other thoughts on where to forward feedback email? In the mean time,
 here's the feedback from yesterday:


 -


 I went to Article History and tried to click on an article Editor's name
 to see articles they have also edited, and this functionality is not yet
 there.

 I have no understandable way to Mark an article for watching (for web WP
 usage) - will this be implemented?

 I also do not see articles i am already watching from The web WP

 Are These saved for offline use articles somehow saved to web WP?

 I think the top-right article summary button could show The amount of
 languages The article is available in and allow to choose when 26 other
 languages is tapped, f.ex.

 Editing a segment of an article could allow for a toolbar above The
 editor, having The usual set of functionality or a subset of them (link
 with text, bold, list, reference generation)

 Tapping on this:
 ↑ a b Yle, uutiset viitat
 (Am referring to a and b) should modify Back-button functionality so that
 can get back to references by tapping on Back.
 Also, i am seeing hugely garbled text pasted now, see attached screenshot

 I.e. Would be nice to get a non-formatted copy-to-clipboard out of WP

 Share button on lower-right could have AirPrint? Hmm.

 I will attach two crashlogs that occurred while searching for a WP article
 in the next Mail.

 Sent from some iDevice. Written by Esa.


 


 Great update,

 Can i translate the app into arabic language ?

 Feras Younis Qrinawi


 


 Hey I have the TestFlight iOS 8 app how could I transfer the Wikipedia App
 inside the TestFlight App?


 


 Just from using this to view 2 articles, Infobox placement is a bit
 problematic. On an iPod 5, the page Carboxynorspermidine decarboxylase is
 split up by the Infobox; half the equation seems to be on either side of it.


 (Note: ^ this last one is from the previous beta)




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Re: [WikimediaMobile] Mobile App Retrospective Notes

2014-09-17 Thread Kristen Lans
Hi all,

Just a friendly reminder that our App team retrospective is tomorrow.
Please review our action items from the last retrospective:


= Actions/Further Discussion =

 *Set up quarterly unstructured sprint [Kristen/Dan]
 *Give Vibha  Moiz iTunes account login access [Tomasz]; Waiting on Design
 iTunes account [Vibha] DONE
 *Give Vibha  Moiz access to data about user actions [Dan]
 *Set up monthly apps data review meeting [Dan/Vibha]
 *Blog post and social media to recruit testers [Monte/Vibha/Moiz]
 *Explore paid testing services [Tomasz]


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Re: [WikimediaMobile] feedback about random

2014-09-17 Thread Jon Robson
Data:
http://mobile-reportcard.wmflabs.org/graphs/ui-daily

After home, the random menu item is the most clicked button.
I remember analysing the data once and seeing that one user hit random
100 times in a day.

I agree however that it is technical. It would be good to rebrand this
to make it more friendly.

Personally I'd love to see us combine nearby, random into some kind of
explore feature. We can do so much better than a button that just
takes you to a random page.


On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 1:21 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo)
nemow...@gmail.com wrote:
 Amir E. Aharoni, 17/09/2014 10:05:
 WAT.

 Are these millions and millions of real people clicking Random article
 all the time? Not search engines or bots or something?

 I have no reason to believe it's an especially inflated number:
 Special:Random is the most common tool for curious users in search of
 something to read or edit, together with watchlist (which anons don't
 have) and recent changes. Disbelievers can do some appreciated
 additional research though. :-)


 Do taps on Random article in the apps count as hits to Special:Random?

 Not for stats.grok.se, for sure.
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Killiondude/stats#What_about_mobile.3F

 Nemo

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