Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: [RFC] M.T. phone home

[Rob Schoening]

as a user, my self-interest wants monotone to be stable and bulletproof above all else. 

so if this issue distracts from that...

RS
On 6/13/06, Graydon Hoare [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nathaniel Smith wrote: We all definitely agree that (0) is fine, and that (6) is not. Therefore, we probably each have some first number that we think would
 be unacceptable.When you say Don't do it, do you mean that for you, the line of acceptability falls between (0) and (1), (1) is already too much, or, can you expand on where exactly you think the
 line is?I think that (1) is too far. I'd like to stick to surveys. Maybe surveysplus a line asking for a voluntary dump of mtn db info and your--full-version string. Maybe a command like mtn db profile that runs a
loopback file:// sync with a bunch of internal scoped timers andcounters, and some deeper analysis of the db structure.I have two lines of reasoning here.First, I fear setting up any sort of subconscious association between
our tool and privacy invasion. People believe the first and/or worstrumor they hear. That's not about reasoning, it's about avoidingirrational rumors and reputations.Second, I think that it would be hard to implement properly:
- Get the set of data to record just right- Get the sending-to-us system just right- Get the interacting-with-user system just rightThis will distract a lot of attention from other tasks; each of them is
a sort of mother-of-all-bikeshed topic.Don't get me wrong: I'd love to see trustworthy, privacy-blinded,full-system profiling of some sort enabled on computers -- in general --so that the system-makers could see all the annoyances they unwittingly
foist on users. But I don't think we're there yet, and I don't reallywant our tool going down the road exploring it.-graydon___Monotone-devel mailing list
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[Monotone-devel] Re: lua testsuite progress (was: Re: Summer of Code kick-off)

[Timothy Brownawell]

On Wed, 2006-06-07 at 06:33 -0500, Timothy Brownawell wrote:
 It now works under Windows/VC8, except for the non-english tests.

One of these also fails under msys, but in a different way.

 Next up is to convert more tests (maybe all of the rest?) and get the
 *nix-ish build env installed on my windows so I can verify that things
 work there.

I got 50 more tests converted, and got mingw/msys installed, and the
empty_environment tests works there now. The cvs tests have trouble with
cleanup because the cvs that came with my mingw seems to like making
read-only repositories. So what's next is to fix the cleanup code to
deal with this.

 I can also (but probably not this week) poke at our
 dependency graph more, to try to get the test program to depend less on
 general monotone code (besides sanity and libplatform) (maybe enough to
 have a 'libsanity'?).
 
 The 200 converted tests run in 27 minutes walltime on Windows/vmplayer,
 with 10 skipped (These are either tests that don't make sense on
 Windows, or tests that use unavailable commands (such as the cvs
 tests).) On Linux, they run in 9 minutes walltime, with 5 minutes user
 and 1 minutes system time. The first 200 tests from the old testsuite
 (on Linux) take 20m/5m/10m wall/user/sys time.

This also takes about 26 minutes when compiled under mingw, while the
old testsuite takes about 7 hours.

Tim


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