Re: Killing an xterm with mutt
On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 01:20:37AM +0200, Mikko Hänninen wrote: > David DeSimone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Wed, 10 Nov 1999: > > This could be argued quite a bit, I imagine. Suppose your X server blew > > up, and took all your windows with it? Mutt cannot tell the difference > > between that condition, and closing the xterm with the [X] button. In > > both cases, the xterm disappears from around Mutt, and it has no idea > > why. In this case, Mutt errs on the side of caution, because it doesn't > > want to lose information, unless it's sure that you are really quitting. > > What's different in the X server blowing up, why shouldn't Mutt exit > gracefully in that situation? > > I agree that there should be caution taken in this situation, but I'm > not sure if exiting without saving anything is the right choice. And > another point is that someone closing the xterm intentionally is a much > more common event than the X server crashing (I would hope!), even if > that doesn't mean the latter should be ignored as a possibility. > > I wonder how feasible it would be to add some sort of option for this? > Or a configure option possibly? > yep. i agree with that. mutt is already the highest configurable email client i know and i am very happy with it. So one extra option won't hurt anyone i think. :-))) For now i will add ":set quit=yes" to my muttrc cause i always know that if i press q i want to quit :-) jan
Re: Alternates - an example
* Nathan Cullen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [99 03:45]: > I am trying to figure out the syntax of the "alternates" option. > The mutt manual says "A regexp that allows you to > specify alternate addresses where you receive email". > My question is, can I have multiple "alternates" (one for each email > address), or do I have to bunch them all in to one big regex? The value of "alternates" is a regex. Here's mine as an example: set alternates= (sven|guckes)(-[a-z]*)?@ .*(\\.fu-berlin.de|slrn.org|vim.org| gmx.net|gmx.de|usa.net|guckes.net)| [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yes, this is one line, of course. ;-) The part "(-[a-z]*)?" describes an *optional* extension to the address before the '@', eg as in "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". This should catch most of my addresses: [EMAIL PROTECTED] my very private address [EMAIL PROTECTED]free email addresses used for.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..making contact with me [EMAIL PROTECTED] my main address for slrn stuff (new!) [EMAIL PROTECTED] my main address for vi and vim stuff [EMAIL PROTECTED] my main address at the university [EMAIL PROTECTED]and some of my specialized.. [EMAIL PROTECTED]..addresses used for filtering [EMAIL PROTECTED] my evil twin on comp.mail.pine My complete setup is visible (as usual) on http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/setup/#mutt Btw, mutt would be a LOT more useful for many people if there was an additional flag for your work addresses. Example: set [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Work mails" would then show up with a 'W' and would be selectable with "~W". Then you can easily focus on your work stuff looking at new work mails with command ",W": macro index ,W "l~N ~W\n" One more for the wishlist, I guess. Sven [Where do I apply for [EMAIL PROTECTED]?] -- Sven [EMAIL PROTECTED]| MUTT - a UNIX mailer with support for MUTT WOOF!,, Usenet: comp.mail.mutt | color+threading, IMAP,MIME+PGP+POP MUTT (__/'. http://www.mutt.org/ | Heavily documented setup file: MUTT /| |\ http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/setup/muttrc
Re: Alternates - an example
Sven Guckes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Thu, 11 Nov 1999: > Btw, mutt would be a LOT more useful for many people > if there was an additional flag for your work addresses. > > Example: set [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "Work mails" would then show up with a 'W' > and would be selectable with "~W". What's wrong in using procmail/maildrop to filter work-related emails to another folder and browse that? Having multiple incoming mail folders is just too handy in Mutt, I don't see much point in adding a specific flag for some purpose like this. Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy & scifi, the Corrs / The only substitute for good manners is fast reflexes.
Re: Umlauts (again)
Hi Ship's Log, Lt. Dirk Pirschel, Stardate 081199.2230: > > Mutt will only display iso-latin1 chars if you set locale appropriate. > try $LANG = en_US.iso88591 > (works fine with me) Also when started on a noniso based font terminal? or more generally: is there a way to change font within mutt? Greetings -- Alexander N. Benner; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Nikodemus@irc (#Debian.De&#IXThYS) PROVERBS 30:4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? Who hath gathered the wind in His fists? Who hath bound the waters in a garment? Who hath established all the ends of the earth? What is His name, and what is His son's name, if thou canst tell ?
Mutt in xterm
I am a newbie to Mutt and have several questions. I us Mutt in xterms in FVWM2 (and not in any other Window Manager). The version of Mutt on my system is 1.0us The colors do not seem to work. I have several questions about the huge configuration options available for mutt. 1. I would like the index section with paging section, while using mutt. 2. How do I view messages that are threaded? 10 N T Nov 11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( 0) Lottery Winners When I use 'n' after reading a note in the thread, mutt goes to the next email (not threaded), in the index. 3. Last but least, how do I get colors to work? I have included my muttrc below. Any suggestions to get the features I want to work, is appreciated. Thank you in advance. Subba Rao [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/ == This is my .muttrc # Show the mail address I want people to use my_hdr From: Subba Rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> my_hdr X-Disclaimer: Listen, and thou shall not fear. # === Key bindings bind pager next-line bind pager previous-line bind pager previous-entry bind pager next-entry bind generic half-up bind generic half-down bind pager bottom bind pager "\111" bottom bind pager d delete-message bind pager r reply # I don't want copies of attachments, cause I got them elsewhere. unset fcc_attach # I want 8 bit ISO-8859-1 set allow_8bit set charset=iso-8859-1 # I want my temp-files stored in my home area instead of /tmp, to be sure I don't lose them. set tmpdir=~ # I want dashes above my signature. set sig_dashes # This is my signature for Mutt. set signature=~/.signature # I don't want to confirm appending messages to a mailbox. unset confirmappend # I don't want to confirm deleting a mail. set delete=yes # This is my domain. set hostname=ibm.net # This is where I keep my mailboxes. set folder=~/Mail # This is my default mailbox. set spoolfile=~/Maildir # I want copies of sent mail here. set record=~/Mail # I want my aliases here. set alias_file=~/.mutt/aliases # Check mail every 30 seconds. set timeout=30 # Include copy of the message I am replying to. set include=yes # Forward messages as separate MIME parts. set mime_fwd # Sort my mailboxes like this. set sort=mailbox-order set strict_threads set sort=threads folder-hook . set sort=mailbox-order # I don't want to move mail unless I said so. set move=no # I don't want to mark wrapped lines with +'es. set nomarkers # I want to wrap by words, not by a character at the screen edge. set smart_wrap # Organize how I want to view headers. ignore * unignore from: date: subject: to: cc: reply-to: unignore organization: organisation: color header black white Subject: color header brightgreen white X-Mailer: color header brightgreen white X-Newsreader: color body brightyellow black "([a-z]*://|mailto:)[^ \n\t]*[^., \n\t>]" color body brightgreen white sec@[-a-z_0-9.%$']+ color body brightwhite black [-a-z_0-9.%$']+@[-a-z_0-9.%$']+ color body brightgreen white "[^A-Z][%;:]-*[)>(<|]|^[%;:]-*[)>(<|]*" color body brightgreen white "( |^)[;:]-*[)>(<|]+" color body brightred white "\\[[^]]*\]" color hdrdefault magenta white color quoted blue white color signature brightred white color status black white color normal black white color attachment black white color error black white color tilde black white color markers red white color tree black white color indicator white black color search white black color message black white
Sent mail
I am using the Maildir format for my email. Mutt reads the incoming mail fine. Where is the outgoing mail saved? How do I see what email I have sent through mutt? TIA. Subba Rao [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/
Re: Alternates
Fairlight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You bunch them all in one big regex. It looks slightly ugly but > > fortunately it doesn't need to be human-parseable most of the time. > > I imagine it does look really confusing with lots of short things like > iki.fi in it. :) Well, if you do like many hackers, and try to make a "clever" regexp, it's probably going to be hard to read. But there's no reason you can't just make a "simple" regexp that does the same thing. For instance, instead of this: set alternates='^(fox|david|cretin)@(convex|hp).com)$" I could just do this: set alternates='^([EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED])$" Which one is easier to read, depends on the width of your terminal, and how much you enjoy parsing regular exprssions. :) -- David DeSimone | "The doctrine of human equality reposes on this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | that there is no man really clever who has not Hewlett-Packard | found that he is stupid." -- Gilbert K. Chesterson UX WTEC Engineer |PGP: 5B 47 34 9F 3B 9A B0 0D AB A6 15 F1 BB BE 8C 44
Re: Killing an xterm with mutt
Jan Houtsma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For now i will add ":set quit=yes" to my muttrc cause i always know > that if i press q i want to quit :-) "set quit=yes" is the default. So if it wasn't already set that way, it's because someone (distro producer? sysadmin?) set it to something else for you. -- David DeSimone | "The doctrine of human equality reposes on this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | that there is no man really clever who has not Hewlett-Packard | found that he is stupid." -- Gilbert K. Chesterson UX WTEC Engineer |PGP: 5B 47 34 9F 3B 9A B0 0D AB A6 15 F1 BB BE 8C 44
Re: Umlauts (again)
Alexander N. Benner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Mutt will only display iso-latin1 chars if you set locale appropriate. > > try $LANG = en_US.iso88591 > > Also when started on a noniso based font terminal? Of course not. You would have to set your LANG variable to correspond to the environment you're running Mutt in. > or more generally: is there a way to change font within mutt? Of course not. Mutt runs inside a terminal. You tell Mutt what type of terminal that is, and what font it supports, and Mutt will do its best to support the font in use. -- David DeSimone | "The doctrine of human equality reposes on this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | that there is no man really clever who has not Hewlett-Packard | found that he is stupid." -- Gilbert K. Chesterson UX WTEC Engineer |PGP: 5B 47 34 9F 3B 9A B0 0D AB A6 15 F1 BB BE 8C 44
Re: Sent mail
Subba Rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Where is the outgoing mail saved? By default, nowhere. > How do I see what email I have sent through mutt? Tell Mutt that you want to save outgoing mail, and where to put it: set copy=yes set record=+sent Whatever folder you put as your $record setting, you can use ">" as a shorthand to reference it. So to change to that folder, type "c", and enter ">" as the folder to change to. When you want to come back to your inbox, change to the folder shortcut "!". -- David DeSimone | "The doctrine of human equality reposes on this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | that there is no man really clever who has not Hewlett-Packard | found that he is stupid." -- Gilbert K. Chesterson UX WTEC Engineer |PGP: 5B 47 34 9F 3B 9A B0 0D AB A6 15 F1 BB BE 8C 44
Re: Vacation problem (non-list content)
On Wed, Nov 10, 1999 at 05:16:03PM -0800, Russell Van Tassell wrote: > Well, quite honestly, I've "disappeared" from the list because of an > overloaded mail server or mis-behaving/looping upstream relay (there's > been a couple of weird ones that, all told, lasted an hour or two)... > so I think the person to ask is "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" I'm apologising this time for probably being too harsh on bouncing mail - I went on vacation for 9 days and came back to over 4000 emails, lots of which were bounces. However if you look at the volume of the mutt lists on several days, a single "off-net" system, can cause LOTS of bounces .. Steve -- NetTek Ltd tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 Flat 2, 43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park, London NW3 4LU Epage [EMAIL PROTECTED] [body of text only]
Re: Alternates
David DeSimone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Thu, 11 Nov 1999: > I could just do this: > > set >alternates='^([EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED])$" BTW, aren't the .'s in the regexp supposed to be escaped, if you want them to match just a dot? Admittedly in most cases it doesn't make much difference in the $alternates setting, as hp.com will match the string "hp.com" (as well as "hpXcom", but that's unlikely to ever be seen). Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy & scifi, the Corrs / "No more, no more a life without meaning..." -- The Corrs
Re: Mutt in xterm
Subba Rao [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > The colors do not seem to work. I have several questions about the > huge configuration options available for mutt. Uh... did you try reading the manual? No offense, but this is all answered in there. Maybe you don't think you have time to read the manual, but neither do the rest of us have time to read it for you. I'll give you answers this time, but next time please try to find them on your own first. > 1. I would like the index section with paging section, while using mutt. set pager_index_lines=5 > 2. How do I view messages that are threaded? > 10 N T Nov 11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( 0) Lottery Winners >When I use 'n' after reading a note in the thread, mutt goes to the >next email (not threaded), in the index. 'n' isn't bound to anything by default in the index screen, and it's bound to 'search-next' in the pager... and your .muttrc doesnt' seem to change this, so I'm not sure how to answer this. > 3. Last but least, how do I get colors to work? Make sure your TERM is set to something that is defined as having colors, such as xterm-color. If that doesn't, see the section on this question in the FAQ. > Where is the outgoing mail saved? How do I see what email > I have sent through mutt? If $copy is set to yes, it's saved based on the value of $record... though this can be overridden by a few other vars, see the manual. You can read this mail by using the 'c' command to change to the folder you saved the mail in using these settings. -- Jeremy Blosser | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://jblosser.firinn.org/ -+-+-- "If Microsoft can change and compete on quality, I've won." -- L. Torvalds PGP signature
Re: Sent mail
On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 11:41:04AM -0600, David DeSimone wrote: > Subba Rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Where is the outgoing mail saved? > > By default, nowhere. > > > How do I see what email I have sent through mutt? > > Tell Mutt that you want to save outgoing mail, and where to put it: > > set copy=yes > set record=+sent > > Whatever folder you put as your $record setting, you can use ">" as a > shorthand to reference it. So to change to that folder, type "c", and > enter ">" as the folder to change to. When you want to come back to > your inbox, change to the folder shortcut "!". > I think that should be "<" for $record. ">" refers to $mbox, no? -- (T.) Michael Sanders internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physics Department URL: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~sanders University of Michigan phone: 734/936-0799 Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1120 FAX: 734/764-6843
Alternates, Groups, Lists, and Work
* Mikko Hänninen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [99 14:54]: > > Example: set [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "Work mails" would then show up with a 'W' > > and would be selectable with "~W". > What's wrong in using procmail/maildrop to filter > work-related emails to another folder and browse that? Most people do not use a mail filter. For them it is nice to handle both personal *and* work related mails from the mailbox. I want to keep a focus on new mails that are either personal or work related with a limit to "~N (~p | ~W)". I'd like to maintain a mail filter only for filtering out spam. > Having multiple incoming mail > folders is just too handy in Mutt, No, mutt does not give enough support for watching folders to be really handy. > I don't see much point in adding a > specific flag for some purpose like this. I want an extra flag for "group" and "work" related mails because I do not want to add such mails to my "personal" addresses. The "reverse_name" feature acts up on mails sent to a group, eg it's a bad idea to reply as "ME <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>". :-( Here's an example of what I'd like to see in the index: Mutt 1.1.1i: /var/mail/guckes (threads) [004/1374] [N=300,*=0,post=31,new=1] 1368 N +! 99 Gerhard Buergmann ( 13) BVI 1.2.0 und deine VI-Clone Seite 1369 N L 99 Sven Guckes ( 50) Alternates, Groups, Lists, and Work 1370 N G 99 Mike Orr ( 40) Duplicate messages, unreadable list 1373 N W 91 Felix von Leitner (123) *** (1t's a S3kr1t) 1374 N X 91 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (666) spam spam - wonderful spam Explanation: Flag Description Mutt Option + personal message alternates G personal message (but non a list) alternates_group L "List" (mailing list) lists W work related stuff, personal alternates_work X non-personal not found in any of the above In the end I want that the 'X' flag actually shows possible spams; and work related mails are usually not spam. ;-) And then I'd like to be able to have mutt show "/var/mail/guckes" as eg "MAILBOX" - much shorter. Sven
Re: Sent mail -> Fcc: folder
* Subba Rao ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [99 16:36]: > Where is the outgoing mail saved? How do I > see what email I have sent through mutt? Outbound mail is saved in the folder described in the "Fcc" 'header' which you can see at the "send menu" (titled "Compose"). Sven
Re: Alternates regexp - literal dots
* Mikko Hänninen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [99 18:39]: > > set alternates='^([EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED])$" > BTW, aren't the .'s in the regexp supposed to be escaped, if you want > them to match just a dot? Admittedly in most cases it doesn't make much > difference in the $alternates setting, as hp.com will match the string > "hp.com" (as well as "hpXcom", but that's unlikely to ever be seen). Yes and yes. ;-) But imagine the impact on some "alternates". Example: old: set alternates=(sven|guckes)(-[a-z]*)?@.*(\\.fu-berlin.de|slrn.org|vim.org|gmx.net|gmx.de|usa.net|guckes.net)|[EMAIL PROTECTED] new: set alternates=(sven|guckes)(-[a-z]*)?@.*(\\.fu-berlin\\.de|slrn\\.org|vim\\.org|gmx\\.net|gmx\\.de|usa\\.net|guckes\\.net)|kraut@kens\\.com 16 more backslashes - eek! Sven
Re: Sent mail
Michael Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think that should be "<" for $record. ">" refers to $mbox, no? D'oh... so much for trying to be helpful. My mistake. :) -- David DeSimone | "The doctrine of human equality reposes on this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | that there is no man really clever who has not Hewlett-Packard | found that he is stupid." -- Gilbert K. Chesterson UX WTEC Engineer |PGP: 5B 47 34 9F 3B 9A B0 0D AB A6 15 F1 BB BE 8C 44
Re: Alternates, Groups, Lists, and Work
Sven Guckes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Most people do not use a mail filter. For them it is nice to > handle both personal *and* work related mails from the mailbox. Mutt is not, nor is it intended to be, the "Emacs" of the MUA world. This is the Unix world, where discrete, simple tools work together to create something greater than their sum. If you want your mail separated, for whatever reason, then use a mail filter. It's that simple. > I'd like to maintain a mail filter only for filtering out spam. So you admit that you have a mail filter, but do not want to put it to its fullest use. > No, mutt does not give enough support for watching folders to be > really handy. What? Mutt notifies me whenever any of my incoming folders has new mail. Is that not "watching" enough? Once again, there are external tools available, such as the wonderful xbuffy. > In the end I want that the 'X' flag actually shows possible spams; and > work related mails are usually not spam. ;-) My mail filter detects spam, but instead of deleting it, it inserts the header 'X-Status: D'. Thus, when I enter my mailbox, all the spam is pre-marked for deletion, and I can either choose to examine it, and undelete the occasional non-spam message (and update my mail filter to let it pass), or simply ignore them and let them get deleted when I close the folder. > And then I'd like to be able to have mutt show > "/var/mail/guckes" as eg "MAILBOX" - much shorter. If you put mails for different purposes in different folders, your inbox WILL be shorter. Mine certainly is. -- David DeSimone | "The doctrine of human equality reposes on this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | that there is no man really clever who has not Hewlett-Packard | found that he is stupid." -- Gilbert K. Chesterson UX WTEC Engineer |PGP: 5B 47 34 9F 3B 9A B0 0D AB A6 15 F1 BB BE 8C 44
Automatic save
Is there a way to save all tagged messages to different mailboxes (determined by save-hooks for each message separately)? Marius Gedminas -- Hoping the problem magically goes away by ignoring it is the "microsoft approach to programming" and should never be allowed. -- Linus Torvalds
Re: Vacation problem (non-list content)
Hi Steve! On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, Steve Kennedy wrote: > On Wed, Nov 10, 1999 at 05:16:03PM -0800, Russell Van Tassell wrote: > > > Well, quite honestly, I've "disappeared" from the list because of an > > overloaded mail server or mis-behaving/looping upstream relay (there's > > been a couple of weird ones that, all told, lasted an hour or two)... > > so I think the person to ask is "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > I'm apologising this time for probably being too harsh on bouncing > mail - I went on vacation for 9 days and came back to over 4000 > emails, lots of which were bounces. > > However if you look at the volume of the mutt lists on several days, > a single "off-net" system, can cause LOTS of bounces .. > That is no problem Steve, it was just that I did not know. I will look into it and see if I can find out the problem. I will not put it back online bacause of this reason. Sean PS The reason I was switching it on is because my partner is due to give birth to our twins :) -- GPG ID (5.x) 92B9D0CF Linux User: #124682 ICQ: 679813 To get my GPG (PGP 5.x) Key send me an empty email with retrieve as the subject My Current Uptime is 0d, 18h and 41m on Linux 2.2.13 It said "Needs Windows 95 or better". So I installed Linux...
Re: Killing an xterm with mutt -> use "screen"
* Mikko Hänninen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [991110 23:20]: > What's different in the X server blowing up, > why shouldn't Mutt exit gracefully in that situation? Whatever it does - use mutt within "screen" then the screen session will simply keep running and you can reattach to it later and continue with it. Sven -- Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] using screen-3.9.5 [990901] SCREEN: www.guckes.net/screen/ - the terminal window manager! Digraph input. Run processes offline. Copy&paste text between windows. Create screen backlogs, dumps and logs. Share your terminal with others - see what they type.
Re: Alternates, Groups, Lists, and Work
Hi David! On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, David DeSimone wrote: > > In the end I want that the 'X' flag actually shows possible spams; and > > work related mails are usually not spam. ;-) > > My mail filter detects spam, but instead of deleting it, it inserts the > header 'X-Status: D'. Thus, when I enter my mailbox, all the spam is > pre-marked for deletion, and I can either choose to examine it, and > undelete the occasional non-spam message (and update my mail filter to > let it pass), or simply ignore them and let them get deleted when I > close the folder. > Any chance of seeing your filter, sounds good. Sean -- GPG ID (5.x) 92B9D0CF Linux User: #124682 ICQ: 679813 To get my GPG (PGP 5.x) Key send me an empty email with retrieve as the subject My Current Uptime is 0d, 0h and 41m on Linux 2.2.13 It said "Needs Windows 95 or better". So I installed Linux...
Re: Alternates, Groups, Lists, and Work
Sean Rima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My mail filter detects spam, but instead of deleting it, it inserts > > the header 'X-Status: D'. > > Any chance of seeing your filter, sounds good. Alas, my current mail filter is a home-brewed perl script, which is easy for me to tweak and modify, since I wrote it, but I fear it might be a bit of trouble for others to make sense of it. It works nicely, though, supporting direct delivery to mbox and maildir folders.. Perl can do anything. Perhaps I could share it with some folks to see how it perhaps could be improved for better release. Naturally, someone can certainly show how procmail could do this same thing. I simply got tired of procmail's "language," and decided to use a language I know better. :) Erf... topic drift... Sorry. -- David DeSimone | "The doctrine of human equality reposes on this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | that there is no man really clever who has not Hewlett-Packard | found that he is stupid." -- Gilbert K. Chesterson UX WTEC Engineer |PGP: 5B 47 34 9F 3B 9A B0 0D AB A6 15 F1 BB BE 8C 44
Re: Vacation problem (non-list content)
Hi Mutt! On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, Sean Rima wrote: > Hi Steve! > > On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, Steve Kennedy wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 10, 1999 at 05:16:03PM -0800, Russell Van Tassell wrote: > > > > > Well, quite honestly, I've "disappeared" from the list because of an > > > overloaded mail server or mis-behaving/looping upstream relay (there's > > > been a couple of weird ones that, all told, lasted an hour or two)... > > > so I think the person to ask is "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > > I'm apologising this time for probably being too harsh on bouncing > > mail - I went on vacation for 9 days and came back to over 4000 > > emails, lots of which were bounces. > > > > However if you look at the volume of the mutt lists on several days, > > a single "off-net" system, can cause LOTS of bounces .. > > > That is no problem Steve, it was just that I did not know. I will look into > it and see if I can find out the problem. I will not put it back online > bacause of this reason. > > Sean > PS The reason I was switching it on is because my partner is due to give > birth to our twins :) > > SEAN pay closer attention :) Noticed was a reply to me. Also I checked the db log for vacation here (my devel version) and it didn't send out any mails to the list. Sean -- GPG ID (5.x) 92B9D0CF Linux User: #124682 ICQ: 679813 To get my GPG (PGP 5.x) Key send me an empty email with retrieve as the subject My Current Uptime is 0d, 1h and 39m on Linux 2.2.13 It said "Needs Windows 95 or better". So I installed Linux...
Re: Alternates - an example
On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 15:19:38 +0100, Sven Guckes wrote: > Btw, mutt would be a LOT more useful for many people > if there was an additional flag for your work addresses. > > Example: set [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "Work mails" would then show up with a 'W' > and would be selectable with "~W". > Then you can easily focus on your work stuff > looking at new work mails with command ",W": > >macro index ,W "l~N ~W\n" > > One more for the wishlist, I guess. It isn't necessary because you can put your work alternates directly into your macros: macro index ,W "l ~N ~C ^^guckes@work\\.com$\n" "Limit to new work mails" -- Byrial
Re: Alternates, Groups, Lists, and Work
On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 07:52:14PM +0100, Sven Guckes wrote: > And then I'd like to be able to have mutt show > "/var/mail/guckes" as eg "MAILBOX" - much shorter. > I don't know about "MAILBOX", but I wouldn't mind seeing it replaced with the "!" shortcut. -- == Nathan Cullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==
[wish] foldername option
* Nathan Cullen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [991112 00:19]: > > And then I'd like to be able to have mutt show > > "/var/mail/guckes" as eg "MAILBOX" - much shorter. > I don't know about "MAILBOX", but I wouldn't > mind seeing it replaced with the "!" shortcut. # folder-hook ! set foldername='MAILBOX' # folder-hook ! set foldername='INBOX' # folder-hook ! set foldername='MAIL' folder-hook ! set foldername='!' ok? Sven -- Sven [EMAIL PROTECTED]| MUTT - a UNIX mailer with support for MUTT WOOF!,, Usenet: comp.mail.mutt | color+threading, IMAP,MIME+PGP+POP MUTT (__/'. http://www.mutt.org/ | Need a feature? Let me know! MUTT /| |\ http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mutt/wish.html WishList!
Re: Alternates
On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 11:33:29AM -0600, David DeSimone wrote: > > Well, if you do like many hackers, and try to make a "clever" regexp, > it's probably going to be hard to read. But there's no reason you can't > just make a "simple" regexp that does the same thing. > set alternates='^(fox|david|cretin)@(convex|hp).com)$" But doesn't that seem like such a kludge? I mean, it isn't even "standard" with the rest of mutt. For example, I can setup mailboxes like: mailboxes =drdre mailboxes =snoopdogg ... etc etc And the same goes for lists. Why (rhetorical question) can't I do it with alternates? For example: alternates dre@chronic\.net alternates snoop@lbc\.ca.us ... etc etc Does that just look much cleaner? It would still allow the use of regexes. Even if it meant a performance decrease in comparsion to a carefully crafed, single regex, i'd rather use something that I can read. -- == Nathan Cullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==
[wish] alternates_work
* Byrial Jensen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [99 23:21]: > > Example: set [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >macro index ,W "l~N ~W\n" > It isn't necessary because you can put > your work alternates directly into your macros: > macro index ,W "l ~N ~C ^^guckes@work\\.com$\n" "Limit to new work mails" OF COURSE I can do this. But my point is: I want an extra flag for work related mails so they wont show up as non-personal mails. And I want an extra pattern modifier for these so I wont have to use long regexp with limit commands. And it sucks that the '!' flag overwrites other flags.. *hrmpf* Sven
Re: Alternates
* Nathan Cullen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [991112 00:37]: > .. I can setup mailboxes like: > mailboxes =drdre > mailboxes =snoopdogg > And the same goes for "lists". > Why (rhetorical question) can't I do it with alternates? It's a historical thing. ;-) > alternates dre@chronic\.net > alternates snoop@lbc\.ca.us > Does that just look much cleaner? > It would still allow the use of regexes. Even if it meant a > performance decrease in comparsion to a carefully crafed, > single regex, i'd rather use something that I can read. Wishlist? Sven
Re: [wish] alternates_work
On 1999.11.11, in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Sven Guckes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I want an extra flag for work related mails > so they wont show up as non-personal mails. > > And I want an extra pattern modifier for these > so I wont have to use long regexp with limit commands. I have four jobs and a major identity crisis. I'd like to extend Sven's request to six flags, please. I don't see that's it's the mail agent's task to mark mail according to whatever roles the user splits them among in his mind. While I like marking my mail, too, it's not my mailer's job to facilitate this. If it chooses to do so, it must not make assumptions about these categories; it must provide a means of allowing me to define categories arbitrarily within the limits of its matching ability. This would mean implementing unlimited categories, with matching rules which are not limited exclusively to the destination address (using, say, mutt's general message-matching syntax), and with the ability to mark messages with more than just a particular letter in the status field. I use procmail to do it instead. -- -D. [EMAIL PROTECTED]"Tuna Casserole. Ingredients: 1 large casserole dish. NS/ENSA Place [the dish] in a cold oven. Place a chair facing Networking Services the oven and sit in it forever. Think about how hungry Uchicago.Com you are. When night falls, do not turn on the light."
Re: [wish] alternates_work
* David Champion ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [991112 01:23]: > > I want an extra flag for work related mails > > so they wont show up as non-personal mails. > I have four jobs and a major identity crisis. > I'd like to extend Sven's request to six flags, please. [...] > I use procmail to do it instead. You got a point there. So if everyone has a mail filter then why use "alternates" at all? Sven
Re: [wish] alternates_work
Sven Guckes [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > * David Champion ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [991112 01:23]: > > > I want an extra flag for work related mails > > > so they wont show up as non-personal mails. > > I have four jobs and a major identity crisis. > > I'd like to extend Sven's request to six flags, please. [...] > > I use procmail to do it instead. > > You got a point there. So if everyone has a > mail filter then why use "alternates" at all? Because $alternates has a lot less to do with filtering incoming mail than it has to do with getting the correct From: address when you reply to mail, etc. -- Jeremy Blosser | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://jblosser.firinn.org/ -+-+-- "If Microsoft can change and compete on quality, I've won." -- L. Torvalds PGP signature
Deleting all attachments matching regexp
So - what's the best way to mark all attachments whose filename match a given regexp as deleted? Sven [weeding old attached patches from his mutt folders]
Colorize + underline?
Hi! How can I tell mutt to colorize *and* eg underline something? For example, I'd like to have error messages in red and bold face, links in some color and underlined, and so on. Yours, Rüdiger. -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.math.umass.edu/~kuhlmann/
just another send-hook question
Hi, Here's something that's either trivial or impossible. I want something like send-hook '~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]' '' but I'll only want this send-hook to work if [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the only recipient. On a related note: how do I limit to all messages send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but nobody else (or to me, but nobody else)? Richard -- Zout maar niet te zout, dat vinden de mensen lekker.
Re: Alternates, Groups, Lists, and Work
++ 11/11/99 22:11 + - Sean Rima: >> My mail filter detects spam, but instead of deleting it, it inserts the >> header 'X-Status: D'. Thus, when I enter my mailbox, all the spam is >> >Any chance of seeing your filter, sounds good. I have same kind of setup. I have procmail check for a some things that may point to spam. Other, similar, checks are also done. The filter checks for spammers that use insecure systems or messages without RFC822 and RFC1123 valid Message-Id or Date fields. It checks to see if the mail was addressed to a spamtrap. It checks to see if the used mail servers are in the ORBS, RSS or RBL. If it finds a thing that does not look correct, it'll add a X-Note field with the problem found. In Mutt i have these X-Note headers light up in bright white (while other header fields are in green), so i can eassily not if something is, possibly, wrong. Some of them are derived from the Spamdunk filters, but have been changed and extended over the course of time. See my procmailrc at http://www.mediaport.org/~sister/personal/procmailrc for more info. -Rejo. -- = Rejo Zenger [Sister Ray Crisiscentrum] [EMAIL PROTECTED] = http://mediaport.org/~sister PGP: see headers
Printing
Hello to all, How do I tell mutt, that I should like to to have a print ? I ckecked my muttrc concerning the key-bindings. Found nothing. Tried "p"...no action Many thnaks for your info. Regards -- / / (_) __ __ Pieter Wenk / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / Vevey/Switzerland //_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\
