Re: Re: DKIM and SPF fail for messages sent via mutt-users

2022-08-24 Thread Jan Eden

On 2022-08-24 15:18, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 08:15:21PM +0200, Jan Eden wrote:
> > I was under the impression that earlier issues with DMARC, DKIM and SPF
> > with respect to mailing lists were solvable (cf.
> > https://begriffs.com/posts/2018-09-18-dmarc-mailing-list.html), but this
> > does not seem to be the case. Is there anything I can do myself to avoid
> > such problems? My DMARC setup works fine for messages sent directly to
> > recipients at Gmail, Yahoo, Comcast etc.
> 
> I think OSUOSL implemented a DKIM filter some time in June, probably due to
> lots of bounce-unsubscribe issues with other mailing customers. However,
> this is probably causing your DMARC policy to fail, since the signature is
> missing (or renamed).
> 
> The Mutt lists already munge the From header for p=reject emails.  I haven't
> enabled it for p=quarantine, but this is a Mailman option I can control.
> 
> Does anyone have feedback before I enable that?

Thank you for considering a changed configuration. FWIW, this is how my
own mail server handles my message to mutt-users (delivered via
smtp1.osuosl.org [140.211.166.138]):

Authentication-Results: mail.eden.one;
dkim=none;
dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (strict), No valid DKIM" 
header.from=eden.one (policy=none);
spf=pass (mail.eden.one: domain of mutt-users-boun...@mutt.org 
designates 140.211.166.138 as permitted sender) 
smtp.mailfrom=mutt-users-boun...@mutt.org

It reports a successful SPF authentication result, as does
outlook.com, but both servers still report a SPF failure overall:

  

  140.211.166.138
  1
  
none
fail
fail
  


  outlook.com
  mutt.org
  eden.one


  
mutt.org
mfrom
pass
  

  

- Jan


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Re: DKIM and SPF fail for messages sent via mutt-users

2022-08-24 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy

On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 08:15:21PM +0200, Jan Eden wrote:

I was under the impression that earlier issues with DMARC, DKIM and SPF
with respect to mailing lists were solvable (cf.
https://begriffs.com/posts/2018-09-18-dmarc-mailing-list.html), but this
does not seem to be the case. Is there anything I can do myself to avoid
such problems? My DMARC setup works fine for messages sent directly to
recipients at Gmail, Yahoo, Comcast etc.


I think OSUOSL implemented a DKIM filter some time in June, probably due 
to lots of bounce-unsubscribe issues with other mailing customers. 
However, this is probably causing your DMARC policy to fail, since the 
signature is missing (or renamed).


The Mutt lists already munge the From header for p=reject emails.  I 
haven't enabled it for p=quarantine, but this is a Mailman option I can 
control.


Does anyone have feedback before I enable that?

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Kevin J. McCarthy
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DKIM and SPF fail for messages sent via mutt-users

2022-08-24 Thread Jan Eden
Hi,

I recently sent a message to this list, and received a couple of DMARC
reports from various mail providers to my postmaster address:

...


140.211.166.138
1

quarantine
fail
fail



eden.one
mutt.org


...

I was under the impression that earlier issues with DMARC, DKIM and SPF
with respect to mailing lists were solvable (cf.
https://begriffs.com/posts/2018-09-18-dmarc-mailing-list.html), but this
does not seem to be the case. Is there anything I can do myself to avoid
such problems? My DMARC setup works fine for messages sent directly to
recipients at Gmail, Yahoo, Comcast etc.

Cheers,
Jan


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Re: Opening MIME PDF directly in Mutt's attachment visor

2022-08-24 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy

On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 06:34:37PM -0500, X Tec wrote:
When mailcap is not configured, trying to open a PDF results in viewing 
it as "text" in Mutt's attachment visor.


I configured mailcap to view PDF with pdftotext, but it results in 
"opening" it just for a "blink" moment, then back to Mutt.  How could I 
properly configure this?


Try adding the "copiousoutput" flag to the mailcap entry.

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Kevin J. McCarthy
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