Re: [mythtv-users] Issues with new DVB card (aspect ratio and interlacing)

2005-04-25 Thread Nigel Metheringham
On Mon, 2005-04-25 at 22:13 +1000, Marlor LPE wrote:
> As far as I can see MythTV is encoding this raw data
> straight to MPEG-4 (or RTJpeg). It would be nice if
> there was some way to deinterlace during this encoding
> process, as the OS X version of MythTV is extremely
> inefficient when it comes to zooming or deinterlacing
> during playback (it results in >3x the CPU
> utilization).

If you are using DVB then you will be getting a MPEG stream directly
from the card and just streaming it to disk - Myth will do pretty much
nothing with it, it certainly does not re-encode.

> However, in my case, I am still encoding the video
> stream in software, as I don't believe that my DVB
> card has a hardware MPEG encoder built in.

It won't have a hardware MPEG encoder - doesn't need one since the over-
the-air format is MPEG.

Nigel.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Issues with new DVB card (aspect ratio and interlacing)

2005-04-25 Thread James Stembridge
On 4/25/05, Marlor LPE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> However, in my case, I am still encoding the video
> stream in software, as I don't believe that my DVB
> card has a hardware MPEG encoder built in.

It doesn't need one, DVB-T broadcasts are already encoded in MPEG-2.

James.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Issues with new DVB card (aspect ratio and interlacing)

2005-04-25 Thread Marlor LPE
> > 1. I can't use filters such as "kerneldeint" when
> > encoding. This seems strange, since MythTV is
> > encoding the stream to MPEG-4, just as it did 
> > with the analogue card.
> 
> I dont think its being deinterlaced because with
> DVB you are capturing the raw data, not frame 
> grabbing.

As far as I can see MythTV is encoding this raw data
straight to MPEG-4 (or RTJpeg). It would be nice if
there was some way to deinterlace during this encoding
process, as the OS X version of MythTV is extremely
inefficient when it comes to zooming or deinterlacing
during playback (it results in >3x the CPU
utilization).

The MythTV docs actually mention the limitations for
filtering with DVB: 
"These [filters] may be used when encoding in software
(MPEG-4, RTjpeg) but do not apply when using a capture
card with hardware encoding such as those supported by
the ivtv driver, DVB, HDTV or MJPEG cards". 
However, in my case, I am still encoding the video
stream in software, as I don't believe that my DVB
card has a hardware MPEG encoder built in.

> > 2. The aspect ratio is stuck at 16:9. This means
> > that when a show is broadcast in 4:3, there are 
> > black bars at the top, bottom and sides.
> 
> Check your mythfrontend settings to make sure you
> don't have override aspect ratio on.

As Ben de Luca noted, all broadcasts (even those with
a 4:3 aspect ratio) are broadcast in 16:9 here in
Australia. AFAIK, our digital set-top-boxes simply
zoom these to 4:3 when the "aspect" button is pressed
on the remote. It would be great if there is a way to
do this on the server side (via transcoding or via the
recording filter chain), since the Mac mini chokes
when trying to do it (and the XBox struggles a bit too).

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Re: [mythtv-users] Issues with new DVB card (aspect ratio and interlacing)

2005-04-25 Thread Ben de Luca

2. The aspect ratio is stuck at 16:9. This means that
when a show is broadcast in 4:3, there are black bars
at the top, bottom and sides.

Check your mythfrontend settings to make sure you dont have override
aspect ratio on.
The australian tv stations all broadcast in 16:9

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Re: [mythtv-users] Issues with new DVB card (aspect ratio and interlacing)

2005-04-25 Thread Christopher McEwan
> 1. I can't use filters such as "kerneldeint" when
> encoding. This seems strange, since MythTV is encoding
> the stream to MPEG-4, just as it did with the analogue
> card.

I dont think its being deinterlaced because with DVB you are capturing
the raw data, not frame grabbing.

> 
> 2. The aspect ratio is stuck at 16:9. This means that
> when a show is broadcast in 4:3, there are black bars
> at the top, bottom and sides.


Check your mythfrontend settings to make sure you dont have override
aspect ratio on.

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[mythtv-users] Issues with new DVB card (aspect ratio and interlacing)

2005-04-25 Thread Marlor LPE
Hi All,

I've been running MythTV for quite a while with an
analogue tuner card, using an XBox (and more recently
a Mac mini) as the frontend. All the deinterlacing has
been done server-side while encoding, so this has been
working extremely well.

This weekend, I decided to switch to a DVB-T card
(XPERT DTV-DVB-T with the cx88xx chipset). The card is
now set up and working with MythTV, but I have two
issues:

1. I can't use filters such as "kerneldeint" when
encoding. This seems strange, since MythTV is encoding
the stream to MPEG-4, just as it did with the analogue
card.

2. The aspect ratio is stuck at 16:9. This means that
when a show is broadcast in 4:3, there are black bars
at the top, bottom and sides.

When using my PC as a frontend, I can deinterlace the
picture during playback and alter the aspect ratio in
order to fix these issues. Unfortunately, the Mac mini
does not cope well with either of these workarounds
(applying any zooming or filters sends the CPU usage
sky-high), so does anyone have any advice of a
solution on the server-side?

Thanks,
Aaron

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