Re: [mythtv-users] remote frontend problems
On Sun, 2005-11-06 at 19:45 -0500, Michael T. Dean wrote: Lonnie Borntreger wrote: I'm not sure I understand why NFS, mplayer, and totem even come up for watching prerecorded shows on a frontend. I put the frontend on a laptop, told it where the backend was, didn't mount anything, and watch prerecorded (and live) shows through MythTV itself - streamed across the network from the backend (just like live tv). For efficiency. Why make mythbackend go to the trouble of streaming the file if the frontend can just read the file directly? I guess if you don't mind losing commercial skipping and other features. For me, that's 90% of the reason to use MythTV in the first place. (of course, this has no bearing on any media that MythTV can't stream) Lonnie ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] remote frontend problems
On 11/6/05, Lonnie Borntreger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 16:25 -0600, Cymen Vig wrote: On 11/5/05, RDMathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a perfectly working install of mythtv on a fc4 machine. I decided to put a frontend on another fc4 machine and link them wirelessly. the remote frontend can watch tv, browse the program guide, delete recordings, program to record etc, but it will not allow me to view a prerecorded show. mplayer will not run by itself on either machine, it just freaks out and quits when you try to open it. I can watch the prerec. shows with totem through an nfs share. I have no clue where to even begin to troubleshoot this glitch. any help would be appr. Is the directory containing the recorded material mounted on the frontend via NFS to the same place it is mounted on the backend in the file system? I'm not sure I understand why NFS, mplayer, and totem even come up for watching prerecorded shows on a frontend. I put the frontend on a laptop, told it where the backend was, didn't mount anything, and watch prerecorded (and live) shows through MythTV itself - streamed across the network from the backend (just like live tv). So this is supposed to work? I was testing this with the latest (problematic) KnoppMyth release and found I couldn't watch recorded shows (recorded by Myth) unless I mounted the directory containing the records in the same place as the back end server. For various reasons, I gave up on KnoppMyth after getting a feel for Myth and went to Gentoo with the ebuild and than the SVN so I'll have to try a remote front end again. Thanks for pointing out it *should* work as the documentation is somewhat unclear -- some hints at NFS so I concluded, when it didn't work with KnoppMyth, that it was required. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] remote frontend problems
On 11/7/05, Lonnie Borntreger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2005-11-06 at 19:45 -0500, Michael T. Dean wrote: Lonnie Borntreger wrote: I'm not sure I understand why NFS, mplayer, and totem even come up for watching prerecorded shows on a frontend. I put the frontend on a laptop, told it where the backend was, didn't mount anything, and watch prerecorded (and live) shows through MythTV itself - streamed across the network from the backend (just like live tv). For efficiency. Why make mythbackend go to the trouble of streaming the file if the frontend can just read the file directly? I guess if you don't mind losing commercial skipping and other features. For me, that's 90% of the reason to use MythTV in the first place. (of course, this has no bearing on any media that MythTV can't stream) Perhaps you mean playing outside of MythTV on the front end? I seem to recall that commericial skipping still worked on the remote front end when I was playing the video mounted via NFS. This is probably 100% related to the KnoppMyth issue and not the normal stable release. I wonder if RDMathews is running KnoppMyth. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] remote frontend problems
On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 16:25 -0600, Cymen Vig wrote: On 11/5/05, RDMathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a perfectly working install of mythtv on a fc4 machine. I decided to put a frontend on another fc4 machine and link them wirelessly. the remote frontend can watch tv, browse the program guide, delete recordings, program to record etc, but it will not allow me to view a prerecorded show. mplayer will not run by itself on either machine, it just freaks out and quits when you try to open it. I can watch the prerec. shows with totem through an nfs share. I have no clue where to even begin to troubleshoot this glitch. any help would be appr. Is the directory containing the recorded material mounted on the frontend via NFS to the same place it is mounted on the backend in the file system? I'm not sure I understand why NFS, mplayer, and totem even come up for watching prerecorded shows on a frontend. I put the frontend on a laptop, told it where the backend was, didn't mount anything, and watch prerecorded (and live) shows through MythTV itself - streamed across the network from the backend (just like live tv). Lonnie Borntreger ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] remote frontend problems
Lonnie Borntreger wrote: On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 16:25 -0600, Cymen Vig wrote: On 11/5/05, RDMathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a perfectly working install of mythtv on a fc4 machine. I decided to put a frontend on another fc4 machine and link them wirelessly. the remote frontend can watch tv, browse the program guide, delete recordings, program to record etc, but it will not allow me to view a prerecorded show. mplayer will not run by itself on either machine, it just freaks out and quits when you try to open it. I can watch the prerec. shows with totem through an nfs share. I have no clue where to even begin to troubleshoot this glitch. any help would be appr. Is the directory containing the recorded material mounted on the frontend via NFS to the same place it is mounted on the backend in the file system? I'm not sure I understand why NFS, mplayer, and totem even come up for watching prerecorded shows on a frontend. I put the frontend on a laptop, told it where the backend was, didn't mount anything, and watch prerecorded (and live) shows through MythTV itself - streamed across the network from the backend (just like live tv). For efficiency. Why make mythbackend go to the trouble of streaming the file if the frontend can just read the file directly? Mike ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] remote frontend problems
On Sun, Nov 06, 2005 at 02:33:01AM -0800, Lonnie Borntreger wrote: I'm not sure I understand why NFS, mplayer, and totem even come up for watching prerecorded shows on a frontend. I put the frontend on a laptop, told it where the backend was, didn't mount anything, and watch prerecorded (and live) shows through MythTV itself - streamed across the network from the backend (just like live tv). That works for shows that were recorded using MythTV. If you rip a DVD or use nuvexport to convert files to another format then the MythTV backend will not stream them. That's why the mythvideo plugin was created. It runs on the frontend and must have independent access to the storage area. Since it keeps a list of known videos in the mysql database, every frontend must use the same storage path or else they will constantly overwrite the video list with the ones visible from that frontend. The typical solution is to create /nfs/video on the machine with the big drive and export that directory so that everyone else can mount /nfs/video and see the same files. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] remote frontend problems
On 11/5/05, RDMathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a perfectly working install of mythtv on a fc4 machine. I decided to put a frontend on another fc4 machine and link them wirelessly. the remote frontend can watch tv, browse the program guide, delete recordings, program to record etc, but it will not allow me to view a prerecorded show. mplayer will not run by itself on either machine, it just freaks out and quits when you try to open it. I can watch the prerec. shows with totem through an nfs share. I have no clue where to even begin to troubleshoot this glitch. any help would be appr. Is the directory containing the recorded material mounted on the frontend via NFS to the same place it is mounted on the backend in the file system? ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] remote frontend problems
On 05/11/05, RDMathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a perfectly working install of mythtv on a fc4 machine. I decided to put a frontend on another fc4 machine and link them wirelessly. the remote frontend can watch tv, browse the program guide, delete recordings, program to record etc, but it will not allow me to view a prerecorded show. mplayer will not run by itself on either machine, it just freaks out and quits when you try to open it. I can watch the prerec. shows with totem through an nfs share. I have no clue where to even begin to troubleshoot this glitch. any help would be appr. What does the remote frontend's mythfrontend logfile say when you try and watch a recording? Do they show up normally in the Watch Recordings list? Nick ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
