Re: Global History oddity.
On 24 Oct 2010 as I do recall, Chris Young wrote: > On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 21:28:20 +0100, Steve Fryatt wrote: > [snip] > > NetSurf doesn't use the OS sprites any more (if it ever did); I think > > there's a plan to overhaul the look of these windows completely in the > > medium to long term, anyway. > > In the meantime anybody who wants to can change the icons by editing > the files in !NetSurf.Resources.Icons > Well, the new little smileyface icon for an individual item (content/png) is practically invisible - white on pale grey - so I'm not quite sure how that was intended to work. :-( -- Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie == I despise the pleasure of pleasing people whom I despise.
Re: Global History oddity.
In message Steve Fryatt wrote: > > On 24 Oct, Tony Moore wrote in message > : > > > Another couple of problems, in r10903: snip > As a related aside... > > I thought this had been said, but it's worth repeating: since r10865, the > test builds have contained the core treeview code. While the RISC OS > front-end didn't break as catastrophically as it could have done, some > things do still need work to restore all of their former functionality. > > It's not an exhaustive list, and it's not really end-user friendly, but > > http://wiki.netsurf-browser.org/Todo/RISC_OS_frontend > > has a list of the main things that are now broken. Reports of bugs are > still very useful (and if in doubt, it may be best to err on the side of > presuming a bug). > I see there is a comment about "black boxes" in there. I get this problem now on hotlist and global history. Strangely, clicking one opens a page, the correct one if you get the right blob! System here r10908 RiscOS4.39 on a Kinetic RiscPC with 64MB. Netsurf 2.6 works as usual. If I can be of any help with diagnosing this problem Steve just drop me a note. TTFN -- Geoff. Baxendale, Darwen, Lancashire. Using Acorn StrongARM Kinetic RiscPC. Oxymoron of the day: "Home Cinema"
Re: Global History oddity.
On 24 Oct 2010, Steve Fryatt wrote: > On 24 Oct, Tony Moore wrote in message > : > > > Another couple of problems, in r10903: > > > >The Toolbar buttons don't work in Hotlist, Global History or > >Cookies > > That's fixed (sort of) in r10906. It was one of the many known bits > of brokennes following the core treeview merge a few weeks ago. There > are lots of other bits of those windows that also don't work, if you > go looking for them; I'm afraid that there's no prize if you find them > all, though. Thanks for the explanation. > >The displayed names of many links have been changed > > Could you give an example to explain what you're seeing? In the following partial list, my edited link names are on the upper line, and the new names, generated by NetSurf, are on the lower line. dpdiscuss messages dpdiscuss : Messages : 2764-2793 of 2793 iburst account login iBurst Africa in Ghana: internet connection account balance coinmill dollar / cedi Chart for the United States Dollar and the Ghanaian Cedi: Rate Table exchange-rates pound / cedi Convert British Pounds (GBP) to Ghanaian Cedi (GHS) - Exchange Rates I don't understand how NetSurf generates the new names because, since installing r10903, I have not visited any of the links, and the data is not present in the old Hotlist html file. eg the old Hotlist html for the last item above is: http://www.exchange-rates.org/rate/gbp/ghs";>exchange-rates pound / cedi The link name generated by NetSurf appears to be the page title so, given time, will NetSurf fetch the current page title for every link? If so, it would seem that there is no point in editing the link name, because NetSurf will change it back to the page title. [snip] > As a related aside... > > I thought this had been said, but it's worth repeating: since r10865, > the test builds have contained the core treeview code. While the RISC > OS front-end didn't break as catastrophically as it could have done, > some things do still need work to restore all of their former > functionality. > > It's not an exhaustive list, and it's not really end-user friendly, but > > http://wiki.netsurf-browser.org/Todo/RISC_OS_frontend > > has a list of the main things that are now broken. Thank you for the link. I had not previously seen that page. > Reports of bugs are still very useful (and if in doubt, it may be best > to err on the side of presuming a bug). Noted. Tony
Re: Global History oddity.
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 21:28:20 +0100, Steve Fryatt wrote: > >The displayed names of many links have been changed > > Could you give an example to explain what you're seeing? I can answer this one; it's a core issue which has been briefly mentioned before. With the new treeview code, the hotlist is somehow being validated (probably against the URL database) on startup, and any hotlist titles are changing back to whatever the website title last was. Hence any manual title edits are lost. > >Please could the directory icons be green, as before? > > NetSurf doesn't use the OS sprites any more (if it ever did); I think > there's a plan to overhaul the look of these windows completely in the > medium to long term, anyway. In the meantime anybody who wants to can change the icons by editing the files in !NetSurf.Resources.Icons Chris
Re: Global History oddity.
On 24 Oct, Tony Moore wrote in message : > Another couple of problems, in r10903: > >The Toolbar buttons don't work in Hotlist, Global History or Cookies That's fixed (sort of) in r10906. It was one of the many known bits of brokennes following the core treeview merge a few weeks ago. There are lots of other bits of those windows that also don't work, if you go looking for them; I'm afraid that there's no prize if you find them all, though. >The displayed names of many links have been changed Could you give an example to explain what you're seeing? > Personal preferences: > >Please could the directory icons be green, as before? NetSurf doesn't use the OS sprites any more (if it ever did); I think there's a plan to overhaul the look of these windows completely in the medium to long term, anyway. >Please could the font size follow the config default font size? It seems to be hard coded at present; it would probably make sense if it followed the configured face and minimum size. As a related aside... I thought this had been said, but it's worth repeating: since r10865, the test builds have contained the core treeview code. While the RISC OS front-end didn't break as catastrophically as it could have done, some things do still need work to restore all of their former functionality. It's not an exhaustive list, and it's not really end-user friendly, but http://wiki.netsurf-browser.org/Todo/RISC_OS_frontend has a list of the main things that are now broken. Reports of bugs are still very useful (and if in doubt, it may be best to err on the side of presuming a bug). -- Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/
Re: Global History oddity.
On 24 Oct 2010, "Chris Young" wrote: > On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 17:09:52 +0100, Dr Peter Young (no relation) > wrote: > > > I'm getting used to the new much smaller font size in the Global > > History and Hotlist windows (gets a lot more text in), but I have > > found that the first time in a session that I open the Global > > History the "Three weeks ago" directory is open, which I don't want. > > > > Is this an oddity here, or a feature or a bug? If it's the last, > > I'll do a bug report when I get a round tuit. > > It's a bug, as I can't think of a single reason why this would be a > feature :) > > I've fixed it in r10902. Another couple of problems, in r10903: The Toolbar buttons don't work in Hotlist, Global History or Cookies The displayed names of many links have been changed Personal preferences: Please could the directory icons be green, as before? Please could the font size follow the config default font size? Tony
Re: Global History oddity.
On 24 Oct 2010 "Chris Young" wrote: > On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 17:09:52 +0100, Dr Peter Young (no relation) > wrote: >> I'm getting used to the new much smaller font size in the Global >> History and Hotlist windows (gets a lot more text in), but I have >> found that the first time in a session that I open the Global History >> the "Three weeks ago" directory is open, which I don't want. >> >> Is this an oddity here, or a feature or a bug? If it's the last, I'll >> do a bug report when I get a round tuit. > It's a bug, as I can't think of a single reason why this would be a > feature :) I was using the word "feature" as in, "A feature is bug that hasn't yet become apparent". :-) > I've fixed it in r10902. > I wonder whether the intention was to expand out today's entries but > it went wrong because of the sort order. Wow! That was quick. Many thanks, and have got the new release. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Global History oddity.
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 17:09:52 +0100, Dr Peter Young (no relation) wrote: > I'm getting used to the new much smaller font size in the Global > History and Hotlist windows (gets a lot more text in), but I have > found that the first time in a session that I open the Global History > the "Three weeks ago" directory is open, which I don't want. > > Is this an oddity here, or a feature or a bug? If it's the last, I'll > do a bug report when I get a round tuit. It's a bug, as I can't think of a single reason why this would be a feature :) I've fixed it in r10902. I wonder whether the intention was to expand out today's entries but it went wrong because of the sort order. Chris
Global History oddity.
This is with RISC OS 5.16 flashed, and NetSurf r10900. I'm getting used to the new much smaller font size in the Global History and Hotlist windows (gets a lot more text in), but I have found that the first time in a session that I open the Global History the "Three weeks ago" directory is open, which I don't want. Is this an oddity here, or a feature or a bug? If it's the last, I'll do a bug report when I get a round tuit. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk